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The Art of Selling Online Courses
John Ainsworth
Frequency: 1 episode/7d. Total Eps: 260

The Art of Selling Online Courses is all about online courses.
The goal of this podcast is to share winning strategies and secret hacks from top performers in the online course industry. We are interviewing successful business owners, asking them questions on how they got to the point where they are right now, and checking how their ideas can help you improve your online course!
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205 $124,717 in 30 days with This Simple Funnel
Season 1 · Episode 205
mardi 11 novembre 2025 • Duration 48:03
🔥 Work With Me - https://datadrivenmarketing.co/done-for-you
Ever wonder what would happen if you stripped away all the fancy marketing tactics and just focused on the basics? Boris and I found out when we helped a guitar teacher make $124,717 in 30 days. That's $100,000 more than his usual monthly revenue.
Here's the kicker - we didn't do anything revolutionary. Actually, the whole thing was almost embarrassingly simple. New course, decent sales page, order bump, one upsell. That's it. No complex automations, no 47-step sequences, just solid execution of the fundamentals.
Boris shares the entire blueprint in this episode, including why we created a brand new course from scratch (in just 6 weeks!), how we used survey data to find a massive gap in what this creator was offering, and why positioning bonuses as "Christmas presents" made such a difference to conversions.
My favorite moment? When Boris admits our order bump only converted at 12% - way below our usual 30-50% - but still added an extra $7,000 to the launch. Sometimes good enough is exactly that.
If you've been overthinking your next launch, this episode might annoy you. Turns out that "90% research, 10% implementation" beats clever tactics every single time.
🎁 Free guides mentioned in this episode:
- Sales Page Elements PDF: https://datadrivenmarketing.co/resources
- Checkout Page Guide: https://datadrivenmarketing.co/checkout-page
- Upsell Guide: https://datadrivenmarketing.co/upsell
Want help implementing this in your business? Drop me an email at john@datadrivenmarketing.co
204 Meet The Man Who Built a $5 Million Course Business
jeudi 6 novembre 2025 • Duration 01:01:12
Today's episode is absolutely fascinating. I'm sitting down with Rich Thompson, who built his online tutoring business from literally zero to generating millions in revenue, and his story is going to blow your mind.
Rich started out as a one-on-one biology tutor charging £200 an hour (about $300 US), which sounds amazing until you realize he could only work with about 10 students a year. He was stuck in this paradox where he'd built this successful tutoring practice but had to physically sit next to students to make money. Not exactly the location-independent lifestyle he was dreaming of.
So he completely re-engineered his approach. He analyzed 10 years of exam papers, figured out exactly where students were losing marks, and created an online program that's now helped over 65,000 students. The growth was meteoric - he went from breaking even at $10,000 in year one to hitting $700,000 by year five.
But here's where it gets really interesting. When COVID hit, the UK government cancelled exams and 95% of his subscribers vanished overnight. Rich watched his entire business almost disappear. He told me if he hadn't been conservative with his spending that year, it would have been the end of his company.
We dive deep into his funnel, his marketing strategies, and some surprising insights about advertising to teenagers versus their parents. He shares exact numbers on ad spend and ROI that will make you rethink how you approach your own campaigns. Plus, we do a live review of his sales pages where I spot some quick wins that could dramatically increase his conversions.
If you're running an online course business or thinking about starting one, this episode is packed with lessons from someone who's been through the highest highs and lowest lows. Rich's honesty about what worked, what didn't, and what nearly killed his business is refreshing and incredibly valuable.
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🎁 Grab the free download I mention in the episode at https://datadrivenmarketing.co/pages - it's our guide to the 15 elements every high-converting sales page needs to have.
195 Watch This Before Planning BLACK FRIDAY 2025
Season 1 · Episode 195
jeudi 25 septembre 2025 • Duration 17:02
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In this episode, Josip Belina, our head of funnel strategy, reveals why September is the make-or-break month for Black Friday success and what happens when you wait until October (spoiler: it's not good). We dive deep into a counterintuitive email strategy that has our clients sending way more emails than you'd expect on the final day, and why that actually increases revenue without destroying your list.
You'll discover the bundle strategy that consistently outperforms the lazy "50% off everything" approach that most people default to, plus how to handle your best customers who've already bought everything you've offered before. Josip also shares the two-promotion framework that maximizes Q4 revenue and why this quarter is absolutely critical for your business.
This isn't about sending a few discount emails and hoping for the best. This is about systematically planning and executing a Black Friday strategy that turns November into your biggest revenue month of the year. If you've been treating Black Friday as an afterthought, this episode will completely change how you approach it.
🤝 Get In Touch
If you'd like to talk more about how you can grow your course business, email me at john@datadrivenmarketing.
105 Overcoming Customer Objections to Boost Sales and Conversions - with Monica Badiu
Season 1 · Episode 105
mercredi 27 septembre 2023 • Duration 35:39
Tired of losing potential customers due to objections you can't quite crack? We've got Monica, our in-house copywriting expert and copy coach, who will equip you with strategies to not only comprehend these objections, but also to convince your potential customers to trust your product.
In the first half of the episode, we break down the process of data collection and how to use it to understand your audience better. Monica shares her wealth of knowledge on creating engaging surveys, segmenting your audience, and asking the right questions that help reveal why potential customers might be on the fence. And it's not just about understanding - we also delve into the art of persuasion. From using data to leveraging testimonials and case studies, to citing industry stats and even celebrity endorsements, we cover it all. Not to forget the power of a good old money back guarantee in alleviating fears!
The latter part of the episode is all about capitalizing on your newfound understanding and trust to boost your sales. We discuss how to craft compelling sales pitches, how to respond to objections and how to present your offer in a way that speaks to your audience's needs. Whether you're a seasoned online course creator or just starting out, this episode is bound to fill your knowledge bank with tips and techniques to enhance your sales and make your mark in the online course industry. So, tune in and let's get those conversions soaring!
104 Using AI and Google Ads to Boost Your Online Course Traffic - with Alex Makarski
Season 1 · Episode 104
vendredi 15 septembre 2023 • Duration 32:29
Ever wondered how Google Ads and artificial intelligence can elevate your online courses? Get ready to navigate through the fascinating intricacies of AI and conversion, guided by expert marketer and former engineer, Alex Makarski. We journey into the world of averages, the transformative power of Google’s multi-channel campaigns, and the indispensable role of machine learning in media buying. It's an exploration of quantifying the value of a lead, testing paid media, and understanding the direction of your business.
By sharing his unique experiences from consulting major brands such as McDonald's, PNG, and Siemens on leveraging big data, Alex divulges valuable insights on how these skills can uplevel your online course traffic. We delve into the significance of training machines to make informed decisions, avoiding low-intent auctions rife with fake traffic, and the importance of building supportive communities. This episode is your masterclass on how to use AI, machine learning, and the math of averages to calculate the value of a lead and optimize revenue. It's time to unleash the untapped potential of your online courses with Alex's actionable advice.
103 Building Wealth Through Online Courses - with Doug Cunnington
Season 1 · Episode 103
mercredi 6 septembre 2023 • Duration 47:02
From being laid off to creating a prosperous online course business, Doug Cunnington takes us along on his inspiring journey. With a former career as an IT project manager, Doug transitioned into the online course industry, establishing five comprehensive courses to guide those looking to start their own side hustle. His subjects include affiliate marketing, link building, email marketing, and productivity. A unique strategy he employed is lead generation using keywords, YouTube videos, and a basic spreadsheet. His YouTube channel, coupled with website traffic, brings in around 200 new subscribers each month with his email list promotions converting at an impressive rate of 30%.
Doug doesn't just dish out success stories; he shares his experiences of the hurdles and the victories that come with launching a course. From tackling stress and inevitable mistakes to developing a pre-launch sequence that includes providing a mini free course via email, his insights are invaluable. Key to his strategy is an emphasis on optimizing a launch sequence before automating it, with the optimal conversion rate found at 10 emails or 20 days. He also weighs in on the benefits of using price anchoring to maximize profit margins.
As well as being a business guru, Doug is a man of many interests. We get a peek into his personal life, discussing his fondness for playing the guitar and bass, a goal he has set for himself, and his involvement in the financial independence community in Longmont, Colorado. We also talk about his two podcasts, The Doug Show and Mile Hi-Fi, both attesting to his wide range of expertise. This episode offers a deep dive into the life and mind of an online course industry expert; insights that can certainly help broaden your perspective, whether you're an entrepreneur, a side hustler, or someone simply interested in the world of online courses.
102 Exploring Tripwire Funnels with Josip Belina
Season 1 · Episode 102
vendredi 25 août 2023 • Duration 29:42
Prepare to transform your leads into customers with the magic of tripwire funnels. We've got Josip Belina, our funnel strategy lead, on board to unravel the mystique of tripwire funnels, their operation, and their effectiveness in driving sales. Discover from Josip's wealth of knowledge how to employ just the right kind of low-priced offers to entice potential customers and boost your conversion rates.
We're also pulling back the curtain on a successful tripwire funnel from one of our clients, exploring the vital elements that contribute to its success. Learn to align your lead magnet with the tripwire offer, and understand the role that the above-the-fold section of your page plays in this process. We've got some intriguing case studies lined up where we share tips on structuring a powerful tripwire funnel that perfectly knits together the lead magnet, tripwire, and main product. So, tune in for an exhilarating journey through the world of tripwire funnels, where we leave no stone unturned in helping you leverage them for your business.
101 Delegating and Hiring Tips - with Noel Andrews
Season 1 · Episode 101
jeudi 17 août 2023 • Duration 28:54
Join me as we dive deep into the world of strategic hiring and team building with special guest Noel Andrews, the CEO of JobRack.
We will discuss how to identify the right tasks to delegate, assess the benefits of hiring, and effectively manage a remote team.
Uncover the power of affordable outsourcing, leveraging resources from Eastern Europe, and ensuring a smooth hiring process from defining roles to making the perfect candidate selection.
Whether you're considering hiring an assistant or expanding your team for business growth, Noel's expertise will guide you every step of the way.
- Connect with Noel
- Check out where successful businesses hire the best remote talent from Eastern Europe
- Find out how much revenue your funnel could make you
- Join The Advance Online Course Creators Facebook Group
100 How to 2x your opt ins - with John Ainsworth
Season 1 · Episode 100
vendredi 11 août 2023 • Duration 12:56
In this episode of "The Art of Selling Online Courses," I will explore the dynamic strategies to significantly amplify your course leads without the need for skyrocketing website traffic.
Larn how to craft compelling lead magnets that entice your audience, and discover the power of ultra-specific offers that resonate deeply. We'll delve into data-driven insights that unravel your audience's preferences, empowering you to tailor your lead generation efforts for maximum effectiveness.
'll walk you through real-world case studies that showcase the transformative impact of inline content strategies and ingenious exit intent pop-ups.
Tune in and gain a competitive edge in the world of online course sales. Watch the podcast now!
• Find out how much revenue your funnel could make you http://www.pimpyourfunnel.com
• Join The Advance Online Course Creators Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/advancedcoursecreators
99 Understanding Your Audience with AI - with Lisa Catto
Season 1 · Episode 99
vendredi 4 août 2023 • Duration 20:53
Welcome to another episode of The Art Of Selling Online Courses.
In this episode, I have the pleasure of interviewing Lisa Catto, an experienced business owner and thought leader in business growth and digital marketing. Together, we delve into the world of selling online courses and explore the strategies that can take your e-learning business to the next level.
We'll uncover the secrets to keeping your students engaged throughout their learning journey and discuss the game-changing potential of AI tools for content creation.
We'll also discover how automation can streamline the management of your course communities, allowing you to focus on what truly matters - delivering value and impact to your students.
- Join Lisa's Facebook Group: ChatGPT & Automation Mastery: The 7-Figure Unlok by AI Edge & The Catalyst
- Reach out to Lisa
- Create An Incredible Customer Experience Whilst Simplifying Your Business Processes
- Find out how much revenue your funnel could make you
- Join The Advance Online Course Creators Facebook Group









