So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People – Details, episodes & analysis

This episode, Megan & Jen are joined by Ben Chiriboga about staying true to yourself, approaching everything with intentionality, and putting it all on the table.

Ben Chiriboga is the Chief Growth Officer at Nexl. He is a former practicing lawyer turned legal technology executive at Nexl, an all-in-one legal technology platform built to help lawyers, marketers, and business development professionals work together to grow their law firm.

Alongside his work at Nexl, Ben speaks, writes, podcasts, and creates content about how technology is evolving the business of law. Ben has had the privilege of speaking to audiences at LexLatin Summit, LegalGeek, Legal Marketing Association, Marketing Partners Forum, as well as various attorney bar associations around the world.

Ben is on a mission to help lawyers love the business of law…just like he’s learned to. 

Subscribe to Ben’s podcast, This Legal Life, where he interviews legal professionals about their lessons learned from a life in legal.

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In this episode, Megan and Jen sit down with Kelly Harbour to explore what it truly means to start over and how to embrace change with confidence. They also discuss the power of leading with kindness and the lasting impact it can create.

After 10 years at Goulston & Storrs in Boston, Kelly made the jump to join Moore & Van Allen as the firm’s very first Chief Marketing & Business Development Officer in North Carolina.

Kelly is a fellow at the College of Law Practice Management and the Director of Member Engagement for the SALI (pronounced “Sally”) Alliance, a nonprofit publishing a standard taxonomy for the legal industry. 

She is an accredited partner in the Smart Collaboration Accelerator, a Certified Master Coach by Legal Sales and Service Organization, Inc. (LSSO), a Legal Lean Sigma Green Belt and she is active in the Legal Marketing Association, most recently serving as co-chair for the Northeast Region Conference. Plus, she is a parent to both a human and a dog!

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Episode 1 is a little different as we celebrate stage's 2nd anniversary. 

Join co-founders, Jennifer Ramsey and Megan Senese as they discuss their jump from Big Law legal marketing two years ago into entrepreneur life running a woman-owned legal marketing and business development fractional company for law firms and lawyers. 

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Welcome to So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People! Where we explore behind-the-scenes of work, life, and everything in between. 

Your hosts, Megan Senese & Jen Ramsey are here to showcase the human side of the legal world, from marketing and consulting to the very real struggles of balancing work with being human. 

This isn’t your typical, dry legal show. They’re bringing you real stories, candid conversations, and smart insights that remind you that outside of being a lawyer or legal marketer - what makes you human? 

So whether you’re navigating billable hours or breaking glass ceilings in a woman-owned practice, this podcast is for you. 

Stay human. Stay inspired. Namaste (or whatever keeps you human). 

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This episode, Megan & Jen are joined by Aliza Shatzman, where she talks about the long-standing issues clerks have faced and how her team at The Legal Accountability Project is working to change that.

Aliza Shatzman is the President and Founder of The Legal Accountability Project, which works to ensure positive clerkship experiences and support those who face challenges.

Aliza graduated from Washington University in St. Louis School of Law in 2019, aspiring to be a homicide prosecutor. She clerked in D.C. Superior Court for trial experience and insight into judicial decision-making.

Law schools promote clerkships as prestigious, mentorship-driven opportunities. However, Aliza encountered the stark reality: a power imbalance that silences clerks, lack of workplace protections, and judges’ lasting influence over careers.

Her experience of gender discrimination, harassment, and retaliation derailed her aspirations. She later testified before Congress, exposing how federal judges are exempt from Title VII, leaving clerks without legal recourse.

From this, The Legal Accountability Project was born.

Learn more about Aliza and The Legal Accountability Project: 

Connect with Aliza: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliza-shatzman-58b55223/

Website: https://www.legalaccountabilityproject.org/

Clerkship Database: https://www.legalaccountabilityproject.org/clerkships-database

If you would like to donate to The Legal Accountability Project: https://www.legalaccountabilityproject.org/donate-1

Looking for support? Check out these resources:

ABA Assistance Programs: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/lawyer_assistance/

Call or text 988 (Open 24/7/365)

Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us

Zen Care: https://zencare.co/

Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers: https://mnlcl.org/

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This episode, Megan & Jen are joined by Bob Burg, to chat about the book and lessons from The Go-Giver co-authored by Bob and John David Mann.

Bob Burg is the storyteller, with co-author John David Mann, behind The Go-Giver, a Wall Street Journal, and BusinessWeek bestseller that has sold over a million copies. Bob is a former TV personality and top-producing salesperson. He speaks with corporations, organizations, and at sales and leadership conferences worldwide on topics central to The Go-Giver. And if you weren’t aware, there is an entire Go-Giver series that includes Go-Givers Sell More, The Go-Giver Leader and The Go-Giver Influencer. He is also author of Adversaries into Allies and Endless Referrals. In his personal time, Bob is an unapologetic animal lover and serves as part of a South Florida rescue, foster, and adoption organization.

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Welcome to So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People!

Today, we are doing something a little different in honor of International Women's Day (IWD) on March 8th.

For those who are not familiar with the origins of International Women's Day (IWD) it has been observed since the early 1900's. The history of International Women's Day (IWD) includes the first National Woman's Day in 1909, the first IWD in 1911, and the UN's involvement starting in 1975. Controversy clouds the history of International Women’s Day. According to a common version of the holiday’s origins, it was established in 1907, to mark the 50th anniversary of a brutally repressed protest by New York City’s female garment and textile workers. But there’s a problem with that story: Neither the 1857 protest nor the 50th-anniversary tribute may have actually taken place.

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This episode, Megan & Jen are joined by Dr. Anne Welsh to talk about what a lot of women experience at work and home: the perfectionist trap. They also dive into why this leads to women thinking they are constantly failing, and Dr. Welsh turns the idea of ambition on its head.

Anne is a licensed clinical psychologist with a doctorate in counseling psychology. She had stints at Harvard, Cambridge and the University of New Hampshire. She runs her own executive coaching and leadership consulting company with a focus on professional working parents. She is a clinical psychologist with an active private practice and a certification in Perinatal Mental Health, a certified executive & leadership coach, a RETAIN™ certified parental leave coach, and a consultant that addresses working parent policy at the corporate level. 

While at Harvard, Anne made a pivot after her second child to focus more directly on supporting women and mothers in their career and personal growth. 

Anne offers parental leave, executive and group coaching for women and because she is a licensed clinical psychologist, she also provides individual therapy for adults in the Cambridge, MA area. 

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