Who Runs This Park – Details, episodes & analysis

Joe Erato and Mike Van de Bogert, hosts of the Locations Unknown podcast, join us for a lively, laughter-filled conversation. Locations Unknown is a podcast that delves into unexplained and unsolved disappearances in America's wilderness, highlighting some of the eerie circumstances that often accompany these cases, such as search and rescue efforts being hampered by storms and missing individuals being found in semi-conscious states with no memory of their disappearance. In our conversation, we get a behind-the-scenes look at everything that goes into Locations Unknown, the cases that stay with Mike and Joe the most, and whether the stories they uncover have changed how they spend time outdoors. They also share some of their wildest wilderness tales—including camping overnight with armed park rangers searching for an aggressive grizzly in Glacier National Park—and even some stories that I, Maddie, "haven't told listeners yet." It’s a fun, unforgettable chat that left me grinning ear to ear long after our interview. Tune in to hear from the iconic hosts of Locations Unknown! 

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Who Runs This Park is produced by Maddie Pellman with music by Danielle Bees.

This episode features Haleakalā National Park on the island of Maui, Hawaii, from the perspective of its superintendent, Natalie Gates. Haleakalā National Park is home to the dormant Haleakalā Volcano, whose peak rises to 10,023 feet. Known for its breathtaking sunrise—described by Mark Twain as "the most sublime spectacle"—and excursions into the volcano's crater, the park is both a stunning natural wonder and a deeply sacred place for Native Hawaiians.

Natalie, who has served as superintendent since 2013, offers insights into the innovative Incompatible Insect Technique (IIT) used to protect Hawaiian forest birds, her monthly 13-mile hike into the crater, and her unique path from veterinarian to National Park Service leader. She also shares her thoughts on the sacred Kīpahulu District, a window into Old Hawaii, and the unparalleled sunrise experience at Haleakalā.

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Who Runs This Park, presented by ExpertVoice, is hosted and produced by Maddie Pellman, with music by Danielle Bees.

Kobuk Valley National Park, located in northwestern Alaska is a fascinating park, with a rich history of caribou hunting and the onion portage and a unique landscape compared to other Alaska parks we have done so far with sand dunes and vast valleys where caribou migrate. In this episode we interview Ray McPadden, Kobuk Valley (and the larger Western Arctic National Parklands) Superintendent, and his story is one for the books. Not only does he manage such a vast landscape with resiliency and intelligence, but he also served in the military (earning a Purple Heart, two Bronze Stars, and a medal for valor during his four combat tours) and is an award winning author of two books stemming from his military experience. Full of laughter, awe and just good conversation, this is not an episode to miss as you will get a taste for the rugged and wild lifestyle of living and working in “the bush” and managing a park as remote as Kobuk Valley.

Zion National Park is globally known for its Narrows wading hike and Angels Landing, and in this interview with Superintendent Jeff Bradybaugh, not only do we dive into the details behind these famous hikes (including some tips on how to best enjoy the Narrows), but we also uncover facts and stories about Zion beyond its famous hikes. We learn what soundscapes are, talk about the backcountry experiences in the park and learn more about the Bureau of Land Management and the Forest Service (from Jeff’s experience working in both agencies). Jeff has loved the outdoors since he was a kid, and it is a treat to hear how he turned that love into a career protecting the lands we love so dearly.

Close your eyes and imagine a wilderness four times bigger than Yellowstone National Park. Imagine a landscape north of the Arctic Circle with rugged mountains, vast expanses of treeless tundra, glaciated valleys, forests and many rivers and lakes. In the winter the weather can dip below -50 degrees Fahrenheit and in the month of June the sun is out for 24 hours. This vast and expansive landscape is the home of Gates Of The Arctic National Park & Preserve, where this episode hears from its superintendent, Mark Dowdle.

A subterranean park filled with adventures where your boots barely fit through the infamous “mole hole”. This episode explores Mammoth Cave National Park through the lens of its superintendent, Barclay Trimble. Barclay is motivated by experiencing different parts of the country and coming into places that aren’t running as smoothly as they should be. He came from a business background and has had experiences across the country, ranging from Denali National Park up in Alaska all the way to the most eastern point of the continental United States as Superintendent of the Outer Banks Group. Listen to Barclay’s episode to learn how he is managing Mammoth Cave, the world’s longest cave system at 426 miles long, and how he is even making history by discovering new shark species underground.

“Creating memories is an act of preservation.” Grand Teton Superintendent, Chip Jenkins, is passionate about the impact us as visitors can have in the national parks. By visiting and sharing that we value the outdoors to our families and friends, we are creating stewards of the national parks for generations to come. “The National Park Service cannot care for Grand Teton entirely on its own.” Listen in to Chip’s interview to hear his heart, learn about his extensive experience across our nation’s gems and get a behind the scenes look at the Grand Teton and all that is going on in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, a place of international significance.

How did a lawyer become the Superintendent of our nation’s second most visited national park? Listen in to hear how Ed Keable, Grand Canyon Superintendent, transitioned into the National Park Service after serving as the highest ranking civil service lawyer in the Department of the Interior. With a commute along the canyon rim everyday, the vista reminds him of his responsibilities as superintendent and of his first experience at the grand canyon many years before, where he experienced the spirituality and beauty of such an awe-inspiring backdrop. From climate challenges and indigenous affairs to managing deferred maintenance and flying in the occasional helicopter and plane over the canyon, there is never a dull day as Grand Canyon Superintendent.

The National Park Service participated in two SXSW panels & I got to go & “report” on the discussions and attend a few days of SXSW (a tech, music, film & culture conference in Austin, Texas each year) -- truly a dream come true! This episode documents the two panels plus some fun tidbits and takeaways from my experience meeting National Park Service folks and folks across other governmental agencies and partners (like L.L.Bean & the National Park Foundation). With me documenting both the panels & my experience, this episode stands unique in comparison to superintendent interviews. Want to learn how the park service is ensuring they are at the forefront of the challenges both the government and the national park service are facing? Want to get a feel for who I am & my heart behind Who Runs This Park? Listen in!!

Step into the world of Glacier National Park alongside its superintendent, Dave Roemer, as he shares his deep insights into the park's rich tapestry of history and conservation efforts. Learn about his collaboration with indigenous tribes to restore the land and their cultural traditions, his “Drink Coffee with the Superintendent” initiative and his bold decisions to proactively combat climate change.