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Manick Bhan is the founder and CTO of Search Atlas, a cutting-edge SEO and content marketing platform powering over 20,000 websites and 5,000 agencies. A serial entrepreneur and respected thought leader in the SEO industry, Manick previously founded RankPay and has spent over a decade pushing the boundaries of search technology. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to break down the future of SEO, the disruptive impact of AI and LLMs like ChatGPT, and how marketers can evolve beyond outdated strategies. Listeners will gain actionable insights into building high-converting content, mastering SEO automation, and future-proofing their digital marketing efforts.

00:00 Opening
01:03 Introducing Manick Bhan
01:32 Why Was Search Atlas Created?
03:53 Is SEO Dead?
06:12 Why is Conversion Higher From AI Search Than Google?:07:32 RIsk vs Opportunity with AI Search
09:12 Optimizing Content for Competitive Search
42 How Should Marketers Think about AI Today?
14:28 Quality vs Quanity
17:42 Rented vs Owned Spaces
20:09 Lessons Learned from a Founder

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Alex Goldfayn is a three-time Wall Street Journal bestselling author and one of the world’s most sought-after sales speakers. He’s the CEO of The Revenue Growth Consultancy, helping B2B companies generate millions in organic sales growth every year. In this episode, Alex reveals how to Outgrow your competition by transforming reactive teams into proactive market leaders. Tune in to discover simple, powerful actions to win more business, build lasting customer trust, and outsell even in tough times.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Alex Goldfayn

00:50 Transforming From Reactive to Proactive

02:56 Being Proactive Is a Necessity

04:46 Avoiding Rejection

06:28 Showing Up When Nothing is Wrong

07:45 The COPE Methodoligy

09:03 People Just Want to Be Helped

11:16 Swinging the Bat

15:54 Reminding the Customer

16:35 How Can Non-Sales Employees Be Proactive

18:20 How To Integrate a Proactive Mindset

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With over two decades of experience helping small businesses thrive, John dives solo into this episode to explore how AI is revolutionizing the buyer's journey. He breaks down the stages of his signature “Marketing Hourglass” framework and shares how businesses must adapt their strategies in an AI-driven world. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your marketing by aligning with evolving customer behavior, embracing self-service tools, and doubling down on authenticity and trust. Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Christine Perkett

00:09 The evolved buyer journey

02:29 Reintroducing the Marketing Hourglass as a flexible customer journey mode

03:43 How AI interrupts and reshapes journey stages like know, like, and trust

04:55 Recommendation engines and the rise of self-service experiences

06:12 The need to rethink SEO: focus on questions, not keywords

06:50 Combining digital efficiency with emotional, human-centered marketing

08:33 The journey is already changing—are you adapting?

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In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I interviewed Kelly Campbell, a trauma-informed leadership coach and the author of Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership Through Trauma Healing. Kelly Campbell specializes in guiding leaders to integrate trauma awareness into their leadership styles, fostering supportive and effective team environments.

With a deep understanding of how unprocessed trauma can influence behavior and leadership dynamics, They offer an interesting perspective and a novel lens for transforming workplace culture.

What is Trauma, and do we have enough (that’s right) enough of it?

Kelly Campbell defines trauma as “unintegrated energy and information" that overwhelms the nervous system, affecting how leaders respond to stress and interact with their teams. We discuss the critical role of trauma-informed leadership in creating a supportive and innovative work environment. By acknowledging and addressing personal and collective trauma, leaders can enhance trust, collaboration, and psychological safety within their organizations.

We probably won’t go as far as to call it a "safe space" as, according to them, only your employees can determine that. But a “supportive environment,” for sure.

T - Trauma

L - Leadership

C - Consciousness

Kelly Campbell emphasizes the importance of self-awareness in leadership. They explain that many leaders unconsciously exhibit people-pleasing or controlling behaviors, which can undermine team morale and productivity. Through self-reflection and trauma healing, leaders can shift from reactive to responsive behaviors, understand their internal biases, and foster a culture of openness and growth.

Understanding and integrating trauma-informed leadership practices improves individual well-being and drives organizational success by enhancing employee engagement, innovation, and retention.

• Connect with Kelly Campbell on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/
• Visit their Website - klcampbell.com/
• Grab a Copy of Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing - amzn.to/4cE6j4X

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