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Frequency: 1 episode/7d. Total Eps: 264

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A mini masterclass on LinkedIn for MSPs
Season 1 · Episode 262
mardi 19 novembre 2024 • Duration 26:22
Welcome to Episode 262 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This week…
- A mini masterclass on LinkedIn: Improve these three things on your LinkedIn profile to get people’s attention and encourage them to engage with you.
- The 3 tests to apply to new initiatives: The fear test, the regret test, and the comfort zone test – will these push you into taking the next big leap for your MSP?
- Should you start a podcast for your MSP?: Podcasts are a great way to grow relationships with an audience, but is it the right thing for your MSP?
- Paul’s Personal Peer Group: Stuart from an MSP in Atlanta has asked how much he should be paying for a content writer. Find out more on this and whether AI is a good tool to use too.
It’s very easy to become complacent about social media and believe that it’s just a waste of time to a busy business owner like you who’s trying to build their MSP.
But the reality is that social media is still incredibly important.
Not all the networks, of course. I really don’t think most MSPs will get much from TikTok for some time, at least not until the generation that’s growing up with TikTok are the decision makers.
For B2B marketing in 2024 and next year as well the social media network to go for is of course…
LinkedIn – this is still the very best platform for MSPs looking for new clients, and I do highly recommend that you put in time on it every single day.
Let’s spend a few minutes now on a mini masterclass on LinkedIn, and I’ve got three things for you to look at.
The first is to improve three things in your profile. So here’s an interesting question. Based on your current profile, if you were an ordinary business owner or manager, would you want to be a client of your MSP? If not, here are three areas to spend more time on: The headline – focus on the benefit to your prospects rather than what you do. “I do IT for town businesses”, becomes “Helping town businesses grow with technology”. Then look at your headshot and don’t be cheap – pay a professional who does headshots every day and can make you look beautiful. Your about us bit – write it for your prospects, not other IT professionals. You want them to read it and think, ah, this is exactly the kind of person I want looking after my business.
Next up then, is to build your personal brand. And your personal brand is what others think about you. It’s not something you control, but it is something that you can heavily influence. And it’s based on a number of factors: the number of connections you have, the recommendations that you have, what you post about, and how often you post, the value of your contributions, the speed of your responses, and whether you do something like a LinkedIn newsletter or a LinkedIn live. Because people who are perceived as experts, they do these things. Now, like much of marketing, getting better results is about doing a series of small actions on a regular basis, for years. I spend no more than about 15 to 20 minutes a day on LinkedIn. I have a virtual assistant who does functional stuff like accepting connection requests. I just do new content and commenting.
In the early days, this felt like a waste of time, but today I have two sizable and engaged audiences – my connections and my LinkedIn newsletter subscribers. And these have only come from doing the work day in, day out for years whether I wanted to or no...
Stop clients calling you personally for first line support
Season 1 · Episode 261
mardi 12 novembre 2024 • Duration 27:19
Welcome to Episode 261 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This week…
- Stop clients calling you personally for first line support: You can’t grow your business while you’re delivering first line support. Find out how you can free yourself from these burdens whilst retaining great relationships with your clients.
- Why victory loves preparation: Planning small actions regularly will make the biggest difference to your business.
- How introverts can communicate more confidently – and feel better about it: Learn how to tap into your passion using this confidence formula, whatever your “vertness”.
- Paul’s Personal Peer Group: Greg from South Carolina wants to know what the Parthenon principle of marketing is and how to apply it to his MSP.
When you are the person who started the MSP, one of the hardest transitions for you is to get away from delivering first line support to that very first set of clients that you won in your first few years. But it’s something that you absolutely have to do or otherwise you get trapped in doing technical work forever.
Now, don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with technical work, but you can’t grow your business while you’re doing password resets and setting up new users, right? This problem happens to most MSP owners and the reason it’s so hard is because you used to look after these clients yourself, you personally. So they feel that they have some kind of special bond with you. And even when you’ve employed first line technicians whose very job it is to sit there and help your clients, they will still email you directly or call your mobile directly rather than speak to the help desk.
Now, this steals your time when you should be working on the business, but also reduces your ability to sell more to them during a strategic review.
You can’t be the technology strategist and first line support at the same time. Clients’ minds will only let you sit in one of those boxes.
There are a number of different ways to tackle this problem without annoying your clients, and you’ll probably put a couple of the things I’m about to talk about together into a blended solution. In fact, here are nine things that I recommend.
The first is to set clear expectations. Now, this is really easy with new clients, but hard with longer standing clients. So just remember you have to educate them, constantly. What’s top of mind for you is item 1,058 in their mind’s list of priorities.
Number two, make it easy. Put stickers with the help desk number on every single device. Put them on their hands so they can’t help but see them.
Number three, have a standard operating procedure to roll out each time a client contacts you directly. Make a plan in advance so you don’t have the emotional trauma of wondering, how am I going to deal with this?
Number four, play dumb. Tell them you don’t know how to fix that as you focus on strategy these days, but you’ll ask someone on the help desk to call them immediately.
Number five, change your voicemail to say that you’re not working today and for any support, please call the help desk on this number. You can then let client calls go to voicemail forever. Perhaps just follow up with them the first couple of times it happens or when their issue is being resolved just so that they know you are there, but you are not the one doing the work.
Number six, set up an email auto reply exactly at the same principle as the voicemail.
...MSPs: How to influence what John Smith buys
Season 1 · Episode 252
lundi 9 septembre 2024 • Duration 25:16
Welcome to Episode 252 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This week…
- Get the right message in front of the right person at the right time: To attract new clients you need consistent, well-timed marketing to ensure they choose your MSP when they’re ready to switch.
- Do you employ any Sales Prevention Officers?: That’s anyone who avoids suggesting beneficial services to clients so they don’t appear salesy, but they’re unintentionally hurting your business by missing opportunities to improve client satisfaction and increase revenue.
- The common service mistakes that can damage client retention: My guest this week, Michelle Coombs, highlights the common service mistakes that can damage long-term client retention and how to stop them from happening in your MSP.
- Paul’s Personal Peer Group: Alec, who has an MSP in Nashville, would like to hire a virtual assistant to take on his admin tasks but doesn’t know how to hire one that he can trust.
There’s a reason that getting new clients for your MSP takes so long. It’s because of what’s happening to the ordinary business are owners and managers that you are trying to reach. And when you understand what’s going on in their heads and their hearts, you can figure out why they’re so slow switching from one MSP to another. Let’s talk about the importance of getting the right message in front of the right person at the right time.
Now, one of the most critical marketing skills that you can develop is the ability to look at your MSP and what you sell from the point of view of the people that you are trying to sell it to or put another way. If you can get in their heads and their hearts, you can better understand what’s driving them to make a decision. Or maybe more importantly, what’s holding them back from making a decision. The best phrase that I ever heard to describe this is…
To influence what John Smith buys, you must see through John Smith’s eyes.
When you really look at why a business owner or manager switches from one MSP to another, you suddenly get a startling insight into why switching MSPs is a distress activity for most people. You see, they don’t really understand technology at all. In fact, compared to you, they are literally the other end of the scale. You have such in-depth technology and abilities and that makes you an incredibly talented technology person, but the client you’re selling to, well, they’re more like me. I’m not a tech I never have been. That by the way means it’s easy for me to represent the ordinary people that you sell to. And sure, I understand a bit about technology and I love it. And actually I probably know a lot more about technology these days because of course I’ve been working with MSPs for eight years, but I can’t set up a server, I can’t configure a cloud service and I bet you a rather large amount of money that I’d be the guy that would get the setting wrong and I would take down the entire business. So please, no one ever give me the settings of anything important, I beg you.
Anyway, because they don’t understand technology, but they do know it’s incredibly important. They are less willing to muck about with it. So something major has to change at their incumbent MSP for them to want to switch to someone new. And we do see this, don’t we. We see small businesses being sold and kind of merged into super MSPs and maybe customer service goes down and maybe prices go up and the dissatisfaction creeps in very, very slowly for the c...
Episode 162: Can you beat my MSP productivity stack?
Season 1 · Episode 162
mardi 20 décembre 2022 • Duration 39:11
- THIS is your MSP's 2023 goal
- Can you beat my MSP productivity stack?
- A $10m MSP owner's 2023 forecast
Jamie is passionate about the IT support industry and previously founded an award winning MSP business in 2000 which he grew and was honoured 7 times in the MSPmentor 501 list from 2011 to 2018. Jamie was also honoured twice in the MSPmentor 250 list recognising the world’s leading MSP entrepreneurs and executives.
Connect with Jamie on LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/jamie-warner-75769a16 Extra show notes:- Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
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Episode 161: Three types of MSP sales people
Season 1 · Episode 161
mardi 13 décembre 2022 • Duration 33:43
- 00:00 Fix your MSP's website navigation
- 07:42 Three types of MSP sales people
- 17:32 The MSP who turned a potato into $30,000
Over 20 years ago, in middle school, Zach got caught hacking into the school computer system. The incident made him extremely popular with the students, but it sat negatively with the school administration. Students went home and told their parents about the incident, which is how he landed his first IT job in cybersecurity forensics at only 17 years old. In running his successful MSP business, Digital Crisis, Zach has discovered a love for experimental marketing.
Connect with Zach on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digitalcrisis Extra show notes:Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:- https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/about/
- On the subject of tracking how users interact with your website, I mentioned the tools from HotJar and Lucky Orange:
- https://www.hotjar.com/
- https://www.luckyorange.com/
- Subscribe to my YouTube channel:
- https://www.youtube.com/mspmarketing
- Thank you to Anne Hall from IT Agree for recommending the book The Introvert's Edge to Networking by Matthew Pollard:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Introverts-Edge-Networking-Leverage-Connections/dp/1400216680
- https://nz.linkedin.com/in/annehall-itagree
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Episode 160: The MSP with bad techs
Season 1 · Episode 160
mardi 6 décembre 2022 • Duration 28:51
- 00:00 Why it's time for your MSP to fire a tech
- 06:44 How to make tech news relevant to your clients and prospects
- 13:54 A pricing expert on how to accelerate your growth
- 27:02 A great book recommendation about transforming your leadership skills
Per is a thought-leader in everything pricing and how companies can use pricing to drive higher growth, sales volume, and profits. He is a sought-after speaker for various conferences, appears regularly on podcasts and business radio shows, and gets routinely quoted in the financial and business press. His new book, “The Price Whisperer - A Holistic Approach to Pricing Power” is available at booksellers nationwide and online.
Connect with Per on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/persjofors Extra show notes:- Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/about/
- Find out about Paul's MSP Marketing Edge service:
- https://www.mspmarketingedge.com
- Thank you to George Smith from Augmentt for recommending the book It's Your Ship by Michael Abrashoff:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Its-Your-Ship-Management-Anniversary/dp/145552302X
- https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-smith-augmentt
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Episode 159: Google your MSP again
Season 1 · Episode 159
mardi 29 novembre 2022 • Duration 26:49
- 00:00 Is 'data capture' dead?
- 07:02 Why you need to keep Googling your MSP
- 11:27 Monthly recurring revenue from selling marketing services
- 25:00 A great book recommendation about discovering the best plan for your MSP
Andrew's role includes consulting and influencing various segments of the business with a core focus on the Go-to-market strategy and sales efforts for new and existing channel partners in the tech space. An avid runner, Andrew has run over 25 half marathons and recently completed the New York City Marathon.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/andrewdown Extra show notes:- Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/about/
- Order your free copy of the MSP Marketing magazine:
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/magazine/
- Thank you to Stuart Holtby from GetInSync Strategic Management for recommending the book Nine Lies About Work by Marcus Buckingham:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nine-Lies-about-Work-Freethinking/dp/1633696308
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartholtby/
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Episode 158: MSP's LinkedIn automation
Season 1 · Episode 158
mardi 22 novembre 2022 • Duration 36:35
- 00:00 Does automation still have a role to play in dealing with your LinkedIn
- 08:30 Why a 'buyer persona' needs to be central to your MSP's marketing
- 15:52 A recruitment expert explains how to find the best new people for your team
- 35:18 A great book recommendation about coming up with creative solutions
- Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/about/
- For loads of MSP marketing and business growth advice and resources, check out my free learning hub:
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/learning-hub/
- Thank you to Colt Briner from Scrappy AF Marketing for recommending the book Creative Acts for Curious People by Sarah Stein Greenberg:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-Acts-Curious-People-Unconventional/dp/1984858165
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/colt-briner
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Episode 157: Should your prices be on your MSP's website?
Season 1 · Episode 157
mardi 15 novembre 2022 • Duration 37:36
- 00:00 I answer 3 of the most common MSP marketing questions
- 12:09 This is what I think about having a Pricing Calculator on your MSP's website
- 19:22 An ex-MSP's journey to create a tool to give you time back
- 36:07 A great book recommendation about creating great processing within your MSP
- Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/about/
- On the subject of putting a pricing calculator on your MSP's website, I recommended the book They Ask You Answer by Marcus Sheridan:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/They-Ask-You-Answer-Revolutionary/dp/1119312973
- You can join me in the MSP Marketing group on Facebook:
- https://www.facebook.com/groups/mspmarketing/
- Thank you to Jamie Shanks from Pipeline Signals for recommending the book The Ultimate Sales Machine by Chet Holmes:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultimate-Sales-Machine-Turbocharge-Relentless/dp/1591842158
- https://ca.linkedin.com/in/jamestshanks
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Episode 156: How to check if your techs are genuinely too busy
Season 1 · Episode 156
mardi 8 novembre 2022 • Duration 37:37
- 00:00 How to create a 'moonshot' goal for your MSP
- 08:05 Why your techs are NOT too busy for new clients
- 17:58 A social media expert explains how your business can stand out online
- 35:31 A great book recommendation about creating great processes within your MSP
- Out every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform
- Presented by Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
- https://www.paulgreensmspmarketing.com/about/
- On the subject of creating a 'moonshot' for your MSP, Paul recommended the book Traction by Gino Wickman:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Traction-Get-Grip-Your-Business/dp/1936661837
- Subscribe to Paul's YouTube channel:
- https://www.youtube.com/mspmarketing
- Thank you to Owen McGab Enaohwo from SweetProcess for recommending the book The Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Checklist-Manifesto-Things-Right-Gawande/dp/1846683149
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenmcgabenaohwo
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