What happens when two women who refuse to play small sit down with the people actually changing the world — and the ones brave enough to tell the stories most shows won't touch? You get The Get Obsessed Podcast — a show built for people who are hungry for more truth, more transformation, and more proof that the life they're imagining is actually possible.
Hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, this is the podcast for dreamers who are done dreaming and ready to move. Julie is a legal advocate, entrepreneur, and mother of four who has spent years studying what it truly takes to succeed. Mika is a fierce business owner and meditation facilitator obsessed with self-development who knows what it takes to turn a life around. Together they bring zero filters, radical honesty, and an unshakable belief that you were built for more than you've been told.
We go places other podcasts won't. We have explored the inner world of Scientology — the beliefs, the pull, the controversy, and what it means for the people inside it. We sat with Janelle Brown from TLC's Sister Wives and went deep into what it really looks like to live outside the lines of what society calls normal, to question everything, and to find your own definition of family and freedom. Dr. Christine Marie, featured in the #1 Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, joined us to unpack manipulation, control, and how even the smartest people can be led astray — and more importantly, how to find your way back.
These are not comfortable conversations. They are necessary ones.
And then there are the guests who show up to teach you how to build. Gary Vaynerchuk on turning obsession into empires. Evan Carmichael on finding your purpose and never letting go. David Meltzer on staying grateful and driven when the odds are stacked against you. Jim Kwik, author of Limitless, on unlocking what your mind is actually capable of. Dr. Laura Berman — Oprah's go-to love expert — on grief, healing, and choosing to keep living fully. Dr. Nadine Macaluso on trauma and reclaiming your story. Dr. Sherrie Campbell on breaking free from toxic relationships for good. Gina DeVee, the woman who inspired this show to exist, on building a life entirely on your own terms. Kim D. from The Real Housewives and Lt. Joe Kenda, the Homicide Hunter, on the stories that shape us.
At the heart of every episode is one question: how do we actually live our best life — not the curated version, not the one we perform for others, but the real one? The one that lights us up, challenges us, and makes us feel fully alive. That is what we are building here, one conversation at a time.
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Born Into the FLDS: Nomz Bistline on Sam Bateman, Prison, and Finding Her Freedom
Épisode 277
mardi 10 novembre 2026 • Durée 42:29
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and Mika sit down with Naomi “Nomz” Bistline, who was raised in the FLDS and later appeared in the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, to talk about growing up in a high control society and how she reclaimed her own story.
Naomi explains what the FLDS is, why she now sees it as a cult rather than a church, and how obedience, separation from family, and assigned relationships shaped her childhood. She describes being told at 19 that she belonged to Samuel Bateman, how his control wore down her sense of self, and why victims sometimes move closer to the person who poses the greatest threat.
She also shares the events that led to her arrest, her nearly two years in pretrial detention, and her testimony against Sam. Naomi calls prison both the best and worst thing that ever happened to her. It gave her space to think for herself, to read over 300 books, and to discover music. The conversation closes with her life today, including psychology studies, songwriting, and her hope of building a music career.
In this episode, we discuss:
Growing up in the FLDS and how curiosity and imagination kept her going
What the FLDS is and why Naomi views it as a cult
How families were separated and how she came to be placed with a caretaker
Being told at 19 that she belonged to Samuel Bateman
Why victims can grow close to their abusers and how coercive control made her feel robotic
The arrest, the time in pretrial detention, and testifying against Sam
Why prison was both the best and worst thing to happen to her
Finding freedom through books, music, and a guitar
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Naomi “Nomz” Bistline, who now goes by Nomzia, was born and raised in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), a polygamist sect that broke away from mainstream Mormonism. At 19, she was told she belonged to Samuel Bateman, a self-proclaimed prophet who claimed to be Warren Jeffs’ heir, and she became one of his most loyal wives.
She was released from prison on September 4, 2024. Since then, she has been studying psychology, writing music, and working in the fashion world, pursuing the things she was told she could never do.
Naomi is the only one of Bateman’s wives interviewed on camera for the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, released in 2026. She is now sharing her story in her own words and working toward a career in music.
02:08 Who Nomz was before Sam: curiosity and imagination
03:57 What the FLDS is and how it differs from mainstream Mormonism
04:37 A church or a cult?
05:56 When she first realized something wasn’t right
09:25 Why victims grow close to their abusers
11:20 Warren Jeffs and life under the prophet
13:04 Her dad is sent away and the family is separated
15:45 Being introduced to Sam Bateman
18:14 Why she never became pregnant
20:12 Watching herself in the documentary
23:00 Was there any joy? Mind control and belief
26:49 Becoming “robotic” under Sam’s control
28:53 The arrest and the charges
33:43 Taking responsibility and the road to healing
35:40 Why prison was the best and the worst thing
36:56 Reading over 300 books
38:30 Finding music and getting a guitar
40:34 Closing thoughts and where to follow Nomz
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The Barbie Doll Effect: How Our Dreams Begin in Childhood with Julie Lokun
vendredi 6 novembre 2026 • Durée 06:59
ulie Lokun shares how Barbie play shaped her confidence, career, and creativity, and how to reclaim the joy you had as a kid. What toy made you who you are?
Primary Keywords: reclaim your inner child, imaginative play, personal growth, creative confidence, Julie Lokun, Get Obsessed Podcast, how to find joy again
Secondary Keywords: Barbie and self-discovery, childhood play and identity, reinvention, women and ambition, career change confidence, creative burnout, personal development podcast, living your best life
Episode Description
Before she had a microphone, a law degree, or a single listener, Julie Lokun, JD had a shag carpet and a shoebox full of Barbies. She’d beg for five more minutes before dinner because Barbie was mid-scene: a board meeting, a breakup, and a gala, all on the same Saturday. Nobody understood the stakes like she did.
In this solo episode of Get Obsessed, Julie goes back to that girl on the floor and finds something bigger than playtime. The bathtub became Malibu, a jewelry box became the nightclub, and the doll with the kitchen-scissors haircut became the rebel. Every doll had a backstory, and every storyline ran for days.
Barbie was an astronaut, a doctor, a news anchor, a CEO, a best friend, a wife, and a mom. On that carpet, Julie was all of them too. Her Barbie gave closing arguments to a jury of stuffed animals and anchored the evening news into a hairbrush mic. Lawyer, journalist, host. She wasn’t daydreaming. She was rehearsing, trying on every future version of herself with zero risk and total permission.
Then she says what so many of us feel: somewhere along the line, I lost that.
This episode is about why imaginative play is the safest place to be ambitious, why adults trade that freedom for deadlines, algorithms, and comparison, and how to go back to the carpet. Whether you played with dolls, Legos, chalk, or ruled a backyard kingdom, your favorite toy is a clue to who you already are.
What You’ll Learn
Why imaginative play is a safe place to be ambitious, and why nobody laughs at a little girl when her dolls run the company
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Janelle Brown Was Our Life Coach: What We Learned From the Sister Wives Star
Épisode 275
jeudi 5 novembre 2026 • Durée 29:39
What is it actually like to have Janelle Brown from Sister Wives as your life coach?
Before this chapter of Janelle Brown's life became part of the conversation millions are watching unfold, Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor had the unique opportunity to experience Janelle in a very different role: as their life coach.
In this episode of Get Obsessed Podcast, Julie and Mika share their personal experience working with Janelle and some of the life-coaching advice, guidance and lessons that stayed with them.
Life coaching can be a transformative experience, offering guidance, support and practical tools to help us move toward our personal and professional goals. For Julie and Mika, their journey with Janelle was an opportunity to gain greater clarity, strengthen confidence and think intentionally about what they wanted to create next.
One of the things that stood out about Janelle's coaching style was her ability to listen deeply while bringing the conversation back to practical action. Her approach created space to examine challenges honestly, think through obstacles and identify tangible next steps rather than simply talking about change.
In this episode, Julie and Mika explore lessons around:
• Gaining clarity about what you truly want
• Setting meaningful personal and professional goals
• Moving through obstacles instead of remaining stuck
• Building confidence in your own decisions
• Creating actionable steps toward the life you envision
• Staying motivated when change doesn't happen overnight
• The value of having someone ask the questions you may not be asking yourself
Because sometimes transformation doesn't begin with having all the answers.
It begins with asking yourself better questions.
Whether you've followed Janelle's journey on , are curious about life coaching, or you're navigating a transition of your own, this conversation is ultimately about something much bigger:
David and Annie of 90 Day Fiancé: Love, IVF, and Life After Reality TV
Épisode 274
mardi 3 novembre 2026 • Durée 36:21
What happens when the cameras stop rolling and real life keeps going? In this episode of Get Obsessed, Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor sit down with David Toborowsky and Annie Suwan of TLC’s 90 Day Fiancé for an honest conversation about love, resilience, and building a family far beyond the reality TV spotlight.
Few couples in the franchise faced more doubt from the start. Between their age difference, money struggles, and cultural divide, viewers questioned whether their relationship would last. Years later, David and Annie are still together, still growing, and now raising their daughter in Thailand.
David and Annie talk candidly about what it takes to make a cross-cultural marriage work, how they handle online criticism and public scrutiny, and why they chose to share their IVF journey with fans. They also reflect on becoming parents later in life, the lifestyle shift that came with leaving the United States, and what commitment really looks like through every season of a relationship.
In this episode, we discuss:
How David and Annie built a lasting marriage despite cultural differences and a rocky start
Life in Thailand and the changes that came after leaving the U.S.
Looking back on their early days on 90 Day Fiancé and the doubts that followed them
The realities of fame, online criticism, and living in the public eye
Their IVF journey and becoming parents later in life
Why they keep sharing their lives with fans, and what the 90 Day Fiancé community means to them
Parenthood, future family plans, and building a life together beyond the show
ABOUT THE GUESTS:
David Toborowsky and Annie Suwan became household names on TLC’s 90 Day Fiancé, where viewers followed their international love story from Thailand to the United States. Despite early skepticism about their age gap, finances, and cultural differences, they became one of the franchise’s most beloved and enduring couples.
Since their debut, David and Annie have appeared throughout the 90 Day Fiancé universe, including Pillow Talk and David & Annie: After the 90 Days. Today, they share their experiences with marriage, family, travel, and parenthood while raising their daughter, Minthira, and splitting their time between Thailand and the United States.
YOU MAY LIKE: The Killer Clown’s Last Lawyer with hosts Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky
Épisode 272
vendredi 30 octobre 2026 • Durée 27:40
Obsessors, this one’s a treat (not a trick). For Halloween, we’re sharing an episode from Julie’s other show, The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, co-hosted with Dominick Domasky. If you love a deep dive into what makes people tick, especially the darkest corners of the human mind, you’re going to be obsessed with this conversation.
Julie and Dom sit down with Karen Conti, veteran Chicago trial attorney, host of The Karen Conti Show on WGN Radio 720, and award-winning author of Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy: Defending America’s Most Evil Serial Killer on Death Row.
Karen served on the final death row defense team for John Wayne Gacy, the “Killer Clown” who murdered 33 young men and boys and buried most of them beneath his Chicago-area home. She takes us inside the lockup where she first met him, explains how a sociopath and narcissist can mask his sickness so convincingly, and shares why she fought his execution even knowing he was guilty. Then she reveals how the death threats that followed turned into a 30-year media career on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and WGN.
Plus, a spooky-season round of Jules’s Rules: the most infamous serial killers of all time, from Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy to Ed Kemper, Ed Gein, the Green River Killer, and Karen’s all-time pick, Jack the Ripper. Yes, Julie confesses she couldn’t finish the Gacy or Ed Gein series on Netflix.
Why Obsessors Will Love This Episode
What John Wayne Gacy was really like face to face
The psychology of masking: how the most dangerous people can seem ordinary, even likable
Why someone would choose to defend “the boogeyman” of Chicago
How Karen turned the darkest chapter of her career into a spotlight
Why our fascination with true crime never fades, from Jack the Ripper to today’s Netflix hits
Karen’s media tips on being camera ready, finding your lane, and why likability is everything
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The Cult of Scientology With Anne Gollert Hill
Épisode 271
jeudi 29 octobre 2026 • Durée 38:49
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Anne Gollert Hill continues her extraordinary story of life inside Scientology, sharing what it was like to work within the Sea Org and witness the organization's culture from the inside.
A writer, survivor, and creator of My Scientology Story, Anne offers a rare firsthand perspective on leadership, loyalty, fear, and life at the highest levels of Scientology.
In conversation with Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, Anne discusses the realities behind Scientology's public image, from the influence of celebrity members and the leadership of David Miscavige to the personal relationships and policies that shaped daily life inside the organization. She also reflects on the emotional challenges of leaving and the lessons she has learned through her ongoing journey toward freedom and healing.
In this episode, we discuss:
01:59 - Why Scientology actively recruits celebrities and Anne's experience interviewing John Travolta
06:11 - Tom Cruise's relationship with David Miscavige and his unique status within Scientology
09:16 - Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, and the importance of exposing Scientology's abuses
11:29 - The absence of love in Scientology, the Bridge to Spiritual Freedom, and the financial cost of advancement
15:41 - The warning signs that led Anne to question Scientology and begin planning her escape
20:30 - How Anne's family's consistent love and support became the key to leaving the Sea Org
28:39 - Why leaving Scientology felt impossible and how Anne rebuilt her life afterward
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base.
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Why We Can’t Look Away: The Truth About Reality TV with Tiana Locke
Épisode 270
mardi 27 octobre 2026 • Durée 37:27
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and Mika sit down with Tiana Locke, founder and host of The Petty Headquarters, to dig into reality TV, the drama on screen, and the choices made behind the scenes.
Tiana shares how growing up on shows like Bad Girls Club and Flavor of Love led her to build a podcast around recaps and the deeper meaning of messy entertainment. She explains how networks like TLC market a polished image, why drama keeps audiences watching, and how pressure, producers, and social media can strain the families and couples who appear on these shows.
The conversation also looks at where producers should draw ethical lines, using the America’s Next Top Model documentary as an example. Tiana talks about how casting is shifting toward influencers, what she notices as an editor, and the villain and hero archetypes that drive a story. The episode wraps with a rapid-fire reality TV round and a look at what episode one of The Petty Headquarters would be if it became its own reality show.
In this episode, we discuss:
01:30 How growing up on reality TV led Tiana to start The Petty Headquarters
06:48 Why networks like TLC market a polished brand while drama stays behind the scenes
10:14 Whether celebrity couples are real or a PR stunt, and how the spotlight strains families
16:16 When producers cross boundaries, and what their ethical duty should be
21:14 Why conflict, villains, and heroes make a good reality TV story
23:36 The shift toward influencer casting and what it means for “reality”
27:14 A rapid-fire round on Bravo housewives, Bachelor villains, messy breakups, and more
34:07 What episode one of The Petty Headquarters reality show would look like
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Tiana Locke is the founder and host of The Petty Headquarters, a podcast covering reality TV recaps, celebrity drama, and pop culture. Rather than just gossiping, she analyzes how women perform identity, power, love, and survival on camera, and what that says about the people watching at home.
Tiana is also a podcast brand strategist who helps creators grow and monetize their shows. She has been editing for over 12 years and co-hosts The Petty Headquarters with her girlfriend and business partner.
Anne Gollert Hill on Scientology, Tom Cruise and Leaving a Cult
Épisode 269
jeudi 22 octobre 2026 • Durée 30:00
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor speak with Anne Gollert Hill about Scientology, her years in the Sea Org, and her eventual escape from Scientology after nearly two decades inside the organization.
Anne is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside one of Scientology's highest-ranking divisions and her journey toward rebuilding her life after leaving.
Anne shares how a search for purpose led her into Scientology and eventually into the Sea Org, where she signed the Billion-year contract and spent years inside the organization's inner ranks. She discusses life under David Miscavige, the influence of celebrity Scientologists, including Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and Leah Remini, and her journey toward freedom after leaving.
In this episode, we discuss:
Anne’s background and how she became involved with Scientology
How Scientology recruited her through emotional vulnerability
What Scientology is and how it presents itself publicly
The path to joining the Sea Organization and signing the billion-year contract
Recruitment to international management and life inside Scientology leadership
David Miscavige’s leadership and the atmosphere of fear inside the Sea Org
Community inside the Sea Org and the policy prohibiting children
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base.
After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology.
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Mob Family, Dangerous Love, and Finding Her Strength with Kim D of The Real Housewives
Épisode 268
mardi 20 octobre 2026 • Durée 01:03:57
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun sits down with Kim D, the Bravo personality, boutique owner, and author, for a candid conversation about power, love, and fear. The discussion draws on her memoir My Life with the Big Boys, which Julie co-authored.
Kim describes growing up in New Jersey with a mother who clawed her way out of poverty and a stepfather she says held a high-ranking role in the Gambino crime family. She recalls a childhood of fur coats, expensive dresses, and nights at the Copacabana, alongside the moment her mother realized the true cost of that life. She also shares how fashion and animals became lifelong sources of comfort.
The conversation moves through Kim’s relationships, from her high school love to a dangerous marriage and her escape from it, to the partner she calls the love of her life. Kim offers frank advice on choosing the right person to have children with, explains why she is happy living on her own terms today, and encourages listeners who are struggling to reach out for support.
In this episode, we discuss:
How Kim’s mother rose out of poverty and shaped her strength
Growing up in the orbit of her stepfather’s world and what she understood about it as a child
The confirmation and communion weekend that changed her mother’s view of that life
Why clothes and animals became Kim’s refuge, plus the story of Rocco-turned-Coco
A high school love story and the choices that led to a very different kind of relationship
Advice on how to tell a great boyfriend from a good husband and father
Leaving a violent marriage and why preparing before you leave matters
Kim’s soulmate, the life they built, and why she now enjoys her solitude
Why getting the right professional help matters, and where to find support
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Kim DePaola, known to fans as Kim D, is a television personality, entrepreneur, and author best known for her recurring role on Bravo’s The Real Housewives of New Jersey.
She is the founder of Posche, a women’s fashion boutique established in 2007 and featured on the show. Kim is the author of the memoir My Life with the Big Boys, co-authored with Julie Lokun, and the host of the podcast Get Real with Kim D, where she covers reality TV and the cases making headlines.
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No More Excuses: Change Your Life Starting Today with Markus Kaulius
Épisode 267
mardi 13 octobre 2026 • Durée 27:39
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and co-host Mika sit down with Markus Kaulius, author of Play a Bigger Game, to explore how a 15-year-old with no confidence made a decisive choice to change the direction of his life.
Markus shares what rock bottom looked like for him, why habits and daily action matter more than long hours, and why changing the people around you can transform how you think and what you believe is possible. He also takes on the excuses of money and time, and explains why consistency over years, not overnight success, is what builds a bigger life.
The conversation also covers how to handle setbacks when life gets in the way, how to choose mentors and role models who reflect the values you want for yourself, and how Markus came to see growing up without a father as a gift. He challenges listeners to find one answer to the question “what if my biggest scar was actually my greatest gift?”
In this episode, we discuss:
Markus’s rock bottom at 15 and the decision that changed his trajectory
What rock bottom looks and feels like, and why habits and same-day action matter
Why changing your environment and surrounding yourself with growth-minded people accelerates change
Moving past the excuses of money and time
Consistency, the myth of overnight success, and how to handle setbacks
Choosing role models and mentors with integrity and the life you want
Reframing family trauma and a father’s absence as a gift
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Markus Kaulius is a serial entrepreneur and the founder of multiple eight and nine-figure businesses. He is a USA Today top 10 best-selling author and a speaker who mentors CEOs and executives on growth, mindset, health, and faith.
He is best known as the founder of Magnum Nutraceuticals, the supplement brand he grew from a startup to over $170 million in global sales before selling it in 2023. His work and insights have been featured on major media including PBS, Fox News, and CNN.
Markus is the author of Play a Bigger Game: Seven Universal Principles to Experience True Fulfillment and Win at Life. His latest venture is Five Talent Capital, an investment fund that pairs uncorrelated investing with a mission to pull one million children out of the sex trade.
00:00 Cold open: “are you ready to play a bigger game?”
How childhood play lets you try on future versions of yourself with zero risk and total permission
Why reinvention isn’t flaky: in Barbie Land, a career change is just a new outfit
How adults unlearn creative freedom through deadlines, algorithms, and comparison
How to reconnect with the version of you who created purely for joy
“Barbie did not make me pretty. Barbie made me a creative.”
“I wasn’t daydreaming, I was rehearsing.”
“Somewhere along the line, I lost that.”
“Adults schedule brainstorms. Kids just go.”
“That’s just a new outfit in Barbie Land.”
“I want to go back to that girl in that room when I could create with joy.”
What did you play with for hours as a kid? It’s a clue to who you already are. Tell Julie what toy shaped you. Drop it in the comments or DM @getobsessedpodcast on Instagram. She wants your origin story.
What is the Get Obsessed Podcast?
Get Obsessed is a personal development podcast hosted by Julie Lokun, JD and Mika Altidor. It explores transformation, resilience, confidence, and the human spirit through bold conversations with experts, authors, and people who have changed their lives. It ranks in the top 0.05% of podcasts globally on Listen Notes.
Who hosts Get Obsessed?
Get Obsessed is co-hosted by Julie Lokun, JD and Mika Altidor. Julie is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and master certified life coach. Mika is a certified life coach, vegan chef, and entrepreneur.
Who is Julie Lokun?
Julie Lokun, JD is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant. She founded The Mediacasters and co-founded Cre8tive Con, Dragonfly Podcast Academy, and Dragonfly Cre8tions. She co-hosts Get Obsessed and The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, holds a JD from John Marshall Law School/UIC and a BA in Journalism from Indiana University, and is a contributing writer for Entrepreneur Magazine and MindValley.
Who are the Obsessors?
The Obsessors are the Get Obsessed community: listeners committed to personal growth, transformation, and living their best lives.
How does childhood play shape who you become?
Imaginative play lets kids try on different identities and futures with no risk of failure. In this episode, Julie explains how playing out Barbie careers as a lawyer, news anchor, and CEO was a rehearsal for becoming an attorney, journalist, and podcast host.
How can I reconnect with my inner child?
Julie recommends thinking about what you played with for hours as a kid and returning to that kind of play. Make something just for the joy of it, use whatever is around you, and let go of needing a perfect result.
Why do adults lose creative freedom?
Adulthood brings deadlines, algorithms, and comparison, which teach us to create for approval instead of joy. Julie argues that reclaiming creativity starts with giving yourself the same permission you had as a kid.
Is it okay to keep reinventing yourself?
Yes. Julie points out that Barbie changed careers every week and nobody called her flaky. Moving from lawyer to journalist to podcaster to founder is growth, not inconsistency.
What is Cre8tive Con?
Cre8tive Con is a business conference for entrepreneurs, creatives, authors, podcasters, and speakers, co-founded by Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky. Its flagship event is in Chicago, and the Cre8tive Con OTR series brings intimate events to cities across the country, including Orlando on January 14, 2027.
How can I be a guest on Get Obsessed?
You can apply to be a guest at getobsessedguest.com, and brands can explore partnerships at getobsessedpod.com.
Where can I listen to Get Obsessed?
Get Obsessed is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Audible, and most major podcast platforms, plus at getobsessedpodcast.com.
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“My father always told me, ‘I can’t make people laugh unless they like me.’” — Karen Conti
Who is Karen Conti?
A Chicago trial attorney, legal analyst, host of The Karen Conti Show on WGN Radio 720, and author of Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy.
Did Karen Conti defend John Wayne Gacy?
Yes. She was part of his final death row appeals team in the early 1990s. Her goal was never to free him, but to stop the execution because she opposes the death penalty.
What is The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast?
A top-ranked business news podcast hosted by Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky, where entrepreneurship, media strategy, and pop culture collide.
Why is this episode on the Get Obsessed feed?
Because Obsessors love a deep look at human behavior, true crime, and the stories behind the headlines, and this Halloween conversation delivers all three.
If this episode gave you chills, follow The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast wherever you listen, then come back here for more Get Obsessed with Julie and Mika. Stay obsessed, Obsessors, and happy Halloween!
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After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology.
The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.
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The views, personal accounts, and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest, Anne Gollert Hill, based on her own lived experiences and recollections. This podcast makes no independent factual claims regarding the Church of Scientology or any of its members, leaders, or affiliated individuals. All statements reflect the guest's personal perspective and memory and should not be construed as established legal fact. The Church of Scientology denies many of the claims made by former members. Neither this podcast, its hosts, its production team, nor its parent company endorses, verifies, or assumes legal responsibility for the guest's account. This episode is produced for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners are encouraged to seek out multiple sources when forming their own conclusions. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice.
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MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:
(Episode) Julie’s conversation with Keandra Jackson, an accredited family therapist who analyzes pop culture and has served as an on-hand therapist for reality TV shows on Oprah Winfrey’s network
(Episodes) Past Get Obsessed reality TV guests: Janelle Brown of Sister Wives, David Toborowski of 90 Day Fiancé, Savannah Louie (winner of Survivor 49), and Hardy of The Golden Bachelor
The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.
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LEGAL DISCLAIMER:
The views, personal accounts, and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest, Anne Gollert Hill, based on her own lived experiences and recollections. This podcast makes no independent factual claims regarding the Church of Scientology or any of its members, leaders, or affiliated individuals. All statements reflect the guest's personal perspective and memory and should not be construed as established legal fact. The Church of Scientology denies many of the claims made by former members. Neither this podcast, its hosts, its production team, nor its parent company endorses, verifies, or assumes legal responsibility for the guest's account. This episode is produced for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners are encouraged to seek out multiple sources when forming their own conclusions. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice.
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01:03 Introducing Markus Kaulius and Play a Bigger Game
01:55 How Julie and Mika met Markus at the Bookthinkers event
03:23 Hitting rock bottom at 15 and deciding to change
04:37 What rock bottom looks and feels like, and why habits matter
06:43 Keeping the change going when your environment stays the same
10:25 What to do when money, time, or a bad situation feel like blockers
14:21 What happens when life gets in the way of the steps you take
16:28 The myth of overnight success and why consistency wins
18:36 The “excuse generation” and who to trust for guidance
19:45 Finding mentors with integrity (and the values you want)
23:32 Why growing up without a dad became Markus’s greatest gift
25:59 Julie and Mika’s closing message
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