Care More Be Better, invites you to care more so we can create a better world together. We amplify the voices of environmentalists, activists, health and nutrition gurus, scientists, and leading experts who seek to make the world a better place. Over the course of more than 300 interview episodes, you'll hear from experts like Jean-Michel Cousteau, Paul Hawken, Nina Simons, Dr. Wallace J. Nichols, Captain Liz Clark, Dr. William Li, Miyoko Schinner, John Roulac, Chef Babette Davis, Kelly Reyerson (@glyphosategirl), Donna Grantis and many more. These global change agents and activists create positive impacts and encourage us to think globally while also acting locally. Listen for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, on our website, and on most major podcast platforms.
Inspired by Paul Hawken’s aspirational book Regeneration - Ending The Climate Crisis In One Generation, and the late Dr. Wallace J. Nichols' Blue Mind Movement, this show aims to create a realistic roadmap to build a better future. As Paul Hawken simply states: “Global warming is not a science problem. It’s a human problem.” On this journey, you'll become the person you aspire to be by remaining curious, thinking deeply, and listening intently while looking inward. You'll discover your internal wisdom and learn to listen to your inner voice to receive the gifts nature provides fully. Become part of the regeneration nation by expanding your knowledge of agriculture, social systems, and help us build a more circular and just economy.
The stories we tell will get you thinking about how to secure the future for the human race and all Earth's inhabitants - from how you can build positive change in your local community, to how you might broaden your reach and impact globally.
About Our Host: A natural products industry executive, Corinna Bellizzi helped develop and grow several responsible, sustainable nutrition brands including: Nordic Naturals and ORLO Nutrition. With these achievements and experience, Corinna went back to school to earn her MBA at Santa Clara University, and has completed her PhD in Sustainability Education at Prescott College. Her colorful career and exceptional experiences fill this show with life-changing conversations and insights you're sure to benefit from. She exemplifies how to deliver genuine value, achieve bigger things, and pursue significant positive change. Care More Be Better is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, our website and most major podcast platforms.
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Care More Be Better has always been about hope: amplifying the scientists, activists, and changemakers building a more sustainable, regenerative future. That isn’t changing. New interviews will keep arriving here every week.
But caring deeply about the world also means getting angry about what’s happening to it. So I’ve launched a new companion show, Care Less Be Worse: The Environmental News Rant, a raw, unedited space where I take the gloves off about the news that’s wrecking our natural world and our communities. Environmental rollbacks, public lands on the auction block, a billionaire class racing to care less while the rest of us live with the consequences. If you’ve ever finished a news story wanting to scream, this show is for you.
In this bonus episode, you’ll hear the trailer that sets the tone for what’s coming. Fair warning: it’s explicit, and it’s meant to be. Care Less Be Worse is where I process the rage so that here, at Care More Be Better, we can keep focusing on solutions.
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Less Bad Is Not Enough: David Gottfried On Regen360
Episode 307
Tuesday, October 20, 2026 • Duration 01:07:14
David Gottfried spent three decades proving that buildings can change how the world operates, and he has come to believe that is not nearly enough. The co-founder of the US Green Building Council and founder of the World Green Building Council watched his movement grow into a trillion-dollar economy, and he still sees the ship headed for the melting iceberg. In this conversation, he lays out the idea at the center of his book Regen360, an operating system for a regenerative Earth built on one question: does this choice increase life or degrade it? Along the way, David traces a thread from his father’s family-dinner lessons about net worth and self-worth to a third kind of wealth he calls soul worth, the part of us that survives the eulogy. He tells the story of falling off his bike on Mount Diablo and being pushed across the finish line by strangers, and what it taught him about the humility inside perseverance. He and Corinna also explore putting the E in humane, giving every part of yourself a seat at the table, and small choices anyone can make this week, from repairing instead of replacing to spending time outdoors with the people you love.
Show Notes:
[00:00] Intro [02:30] Moving Beyond "Less Bad" In Green Building
[04:38] The Scale And Limits Of The Global Green Movement
[09:52] Maintaining Hope Amidst Environmental Setbacks
[15:33] Lessons From A Visionary Father: Net Worth Vs. Self-Worth
[22:00] Cultivating Gratitude And The Whole Table Of Self
[29:51] Devotion Vs. Self-Harm: Pushing Physical Limits
[37:33] Shifting From Executive Burnout To Human Being
[46:28] The E-Revolution: Accelerating Human Evolution And Health
[51:55] Deep Plant Medicine Journeys And Internal Clarity
[57:50] Re-evaluating Wealth, Time, And What Truly Matters
Can Tenure Be More Humane? Ethics Of Care With Dr. Shawntal Brown
Episode 306
Monday, October 12, 2026 • Duration 01:03:59
Shawntal Z. Brown once wore the burnt orange blazer and bought into every part of the institution she worked for. After being laid off in 2024 amid a shifting legislative landscape in Texas, she began writing about what that experience taught her, and the result is a Substack with one of the most honest titles in higher education: Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back.
In this conversation, Shawntal and Corinna explore how belonging, power, and care play out inside universities, and why the tenure system, built to evaluate and rank people, struggles to center their humanity. They look at what a care-centered version of tenure might reward, including the community service that one professor was actually criticized for doing too much of. Shawntal shares what academic freedom looks like day to day in Texas, why DEI work is quietly moving underground rather than disappearing, and how to tell a symbolic gesture from structural change. Her answer is a task force that ends in a period when it should end in a comma.
The episode closes with a question for anyone who loves an institution that has not always loved them back: what is the cost, and what would it take to make these places more humane for the people inside them?
Time Stamps By Topic
02:10 Loving An Institution That Doesn't Love You Back
04:17 Exploring Power, Belonging, And Care In Institutional Life
11:47 The Complex Realities Of Tenure And Institutional Support
19:55 The Impact Of State Legislation On Academic Freedom
37:16 Redefining Service And Community Engagement
41:22 The Chilling Effect On Classroom Teaching And Academic Freedom
50:30 Moving Beyond Performative Task Forces Into Real Action
55:25 Recalibrating Expectations And The Future Of Higher Education
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Is Eco-Capitalism an Oxymoron? A Report From the Field with Dr. Corinna Bellizzi
Episode 305
Wednesday, October 7, 2026 • Duration 37:31
Is eco-capitalism an oxymoron? In this solo episode, show host, Dr. Corinna Bellizzi, opens with big news: Care More Be Better has joined The Democracy Group podcast network. From there, she turns to a question that has followed her through her entire career. She steelmans the skeptic, who sees growth mandates and externalized costs as structural flaws no ethical CEO can outrun, and the believer, who sees commerce as a lever too fast and too powerful to abandon. Then she offers a report from the field: building Nordic Naturals into a $100 million market leader, the compromises that came with it, the ocean science that led her to walk away, and the algae-based work at Örlö Nutrition that shows what regeneration can look like when it is built into a company's structure. She closes with three votes every listener casts daily, as a consumer, a worker, and an investor.
00:00 Why Care More Be Better joined The Democracy Group, and why sustainability is a democratic question
04:47 Can Markets & Ecology Coexist?
05:51 The skeptic's case: growth mandates, externalities, and why "sustainable capitalism" so often means sustaining capitalism (and not regeneration)
08:22 Ben & Jerry's: the skeptic's case in a single pint. How Ben & Jerry's mission protections held for two decades after they sold, then unraveled under Unilever's shift to sectioning off their ice cream business under Magnum
11:17 The believer's case: B Corps, regenerative farms, Patagonia's ownership shift, and the speed of market change
15:10 Building Nordic Naturals with founder Joar Opheim, and the compromises even responsible companies make
18:18 Examples of compromises: Fisheries, dolphins, PET plastic
20:54 Ocean acidification & the emergence of algae-based nutrition solutions
24:52 Circle B and how VAXA Technologies, Örlö Nutrition, and growing omega-3s with geothermal energy and circular design serve to make regeneration foundational
Shame Is Not A Health Plan: Coach Bill Hogarty On Our Kids and Families
Episode 304
Wednesday, September 30, 2026 • Duration 56:35
NOTE: This episode is intended for informational and entertainment purposes. Neither the host or guest are medical professionals, so this episode should not be construed as health advice. It not intended to treat, diagnose, or cure any health condition. N If you have specific concerns, please consult with your healthcare professional.
Coach Bill Hogarty spent most of his life in peak condition, won twelve bodybuilding titles including Mr. California, and assumed he understood health. Then a shoulder injury sidelined him, he gained weight, and he learned what it feels like to be on the other side of the gym floor. That experience gave him something his training never had: empathy. Today he channels it into the Kids Diabetes Foundation, built on a conviction that childhood insulin resistance is preventable and that telling a struggling parent they are failing their kid will never work. In this candid conversation, Bill and Corinna trade notes as two people who have spent decades in health and fitness, and they do not always agree. They dig into why BMI is a poor marker while A1C and body composition tell a truer story, why muscle functions as an endocrine organ that protects us as we age, and why abstinence-based rules tend to backfire while moderation sticks. Corinna pushes back on the language of shame and on the toll that diet culture took on her own generation, and Bill meets her there. Along the way you will pick up practical, low-drama tactics: let your kid pick one thing from the produce aisle and build a meal around it, walk 30 minutes a day with someone you love, and learn one number that most doctors never order.
Climate And Code: Bridging The Digital Divide In Disaster Recovery With Monica Sanders
Episode 303
Wednesday, September 23, 2026 • Duration 59:08
When natural disasters strike, marginalized communities are often left behind without access to essential recovery resources or digital infrastructure. In her groundbreaking book Climate and Code: Building a Digital and Connected Climate-Resilient Future, Georgetown University Law Center professor and National Geographic Explorer Monica Sanders explores how law, community wisdom, and technology can bridge this gap to build disaster equity. Monica Sanders, founder of The Undivide Project, joins us for an insightful conversation on redefining resilience from the ground up. Drawing from her personal experience surviving Hurricane Katrina to examining digital redlining and community-led initiatives in Panama and Baltimore, Monica highlights why digital access is a critical lifeline during extreme weather events. Discover how centering local knowledge and co-creating digital solutions can empower communities to withstand environmental crises and shape a more resilient future.
Monica C. Sanders, JD, LL.M., is a law professor, author, journalist, and social entrepreneur working at the intersection of climate resilience, technology, and justice. A New Orleans native whose work was shaped by Hurricane Katrina, she founded The Undivide Project to help communities use digital infrastructure and data to strengthen disaster resilience, and Bonne Terre Labs to build decision-intelligence tools for more responsible infrastructure investment. Sanders teaches at Georgetown University Law Center, is a National Geographic Explorer and Forbes Senior Contributor, and previously held senior disaster, homeland security, and humanitarian roles in government and at the American Red Cross. Her new book, Climate and Code, explores how law and technology can help build a more resilient and equitable future.
Can AI Be Used Responsibly? The Ethics of Care in a Machine Age with Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, MBA
Episode 302
Friday, September 18, 2026 • Duration 22:26
Almost every conversation about AI is about power — what it can do, what jobs it will replace, and who it will enrich. Almost no one is asking what it would mean to bring care to this technology. In this solo episode of Care More Be Better, host Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, draws on Carol Gilligan's ethics of care, her own doctoral research into regenerative enterprise, and her personal experience using Claude and ChatGPT in dissertation research to make the case that AI can be an amplifier of care — but only with intention, transparency, and accountability. She covers the copyright settlement Anthropic reached with authors in July 2026, the attention question, the RFK Jr. MAHA report hallucinations, and the four questions everyone should ask before adopting any AI tool.
00:00 — Opening Question: What Does It Mean to Care When Machines Mediate How We Learn?
01:00 — Introduction: A Solo Episode on AI Ethics
02:00 — AI Is Already in Your Life Whether You Chose It or Not
03:00 — What Ethics of Care Actually Is — Gilligan, Noddings, and the Care Tradition
05:00 — Ethics of Care and Regeneration as Near-Synonyms
05:30 — The Care Questions AI Raises: Copyright, Ecology, Labor, Attention
06:00 — The Copyright Reckoning: Anthropic's $1.5B Settlement and 35+ Active Cases
06:30 — The Ecological Footprint: Water, Energy, and Whose Community Hosts the Data Center
07:00 — The Labor Question: Whose Words Trained the Model?
07:30 — The Attention Question: What Happens to Wonder When Answers Arrive Instantly?
08:00 — The Whale Bends Story — and What Was Lost
10:00 — Using AI in Doctoral Research: Building Intelligent Queries
12:00 — Claude vs. ChatGPT: The Hallucination Problem
13:30 — The RFK Jr. MAHA Report: What Happens When Nobody Checks
14:00 — Using Claude for the RSD15 Paper: Editing Without Outsourcing the Thinking
Getting Unstuck: Facilitation, And The Work Of Values Alignment With Genevieve Smith
Episode 301
Tuesday, September 15, 2026 • Duration 57:03
Many social change organizations struggle to bridge the gap between the values displayed on their office walls and the actual practices in their daily operations. Achieving true values alignment requires navigating deep humanity, conflict, and the inevitable shame that arises during transitional periods. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Genevieve Smith, an organizational effectiveness consultant and founder of GV Advisory. Genevieve shares her unique approach as a "professional bummer" who facilitates difficult but necessary conversations around power sharing, organizational grief, and leadership transitions. She explains how drawing inspiration from preschool classrooms and using tools like the community garden metaphor can help teams get unstuck, build trust, and move from panic to practical solutions.
About Guest: Genevieve Smith is an organizational effectiveness consultant using a facilitative approach to her work with foundations and nonprofit organizations. She collaborates with companies on organizational effectiveness efforts, staff and board retreats, and helps them navigate conflict and grief. Genevieve's work tends to make the most sense for organizations in transition who have big questions about how to move forward and what to leave behind.
Fit For Life At Any Age: Chef Babette Davis On Healing Addiction, Inflammation, And Poor Health
Wednesday, September 9, 2026 • Duration 53:13
This bonus episode revisits Corinna's Nutrition Without Compromise conversation with Chef Babette Davis, who was interviewed on Care More Be Better as Episode 174 in February 2024, roughly 6 months after this BONUS episode was originally recorded and shared on Nutrition Without Compromise. In this episode, they discuss:
Babette's childhood: asthma, eczema, refined sugar and MSG addiction inherited from her mother's cooking
The rough road through her 20s and 30s, including a seven-month battle with crack cocaine
Meeting Randall in 1990: the Griffith Park run, her first vegan meal, and the two books that changed everything (Fit for Life and the Mucusless Diet Healing System)
Food combining principles and why "mucus" is about systemic inflammation, not just congestion
Honest talk on protein, B12, and omega-3s for plant-based eaters, plus personalizing nutrition through simple at-home testing
Building Stuff I Eat, Inglewood's first vegan restaurant, and her advocacy with Mercy for Animals
Notable quote: "All you have to do is have a little bit of knowledge of what foods to eat together that will eliminate so much of your indigestion." / "At 73 years old, I don't have to harm anyone to nourish myself."
Inspired and Enraged: Wayne Pacelle on the War on Wildlife
Episode 300
Wednesday, September 2, 2026 • Duration 01:07:26
The federal government plans to kill 450,000 barred owls over 30 years to protect the northern spotted owl — while simultaneously narrowing the definition of harm under the Endangered Species Act to allow old-growth forest logging that will destroy the spotted owl's habitat.
Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for Humane Economy, joins Corinna Bellizzi to expose the timber industry logic behind both moves. Together, they explain what's happening to wild horses and wolves on America's public lands, and share what 35 years of animal protection work has taught Wayne about how a slippery slope can lead to environmental devastation. We must act to protect America's open spaces and wild habitats.
00:00 — Introduction: The Spotted Owl, the Barred Owl, and the Question of Whose Fault It Is
04:00 — The 14-Mile Zone of Life: How Much Room Do We Actually Share?
06:00 — The Northern Spotted Owl: History, Habitat, and the Timber Wars
10:00 — The Barred Owl Is Not Invasive: The Range-Expansion Argument
14:00 — Human Beings Crossed the Bering Land Bridge: Applying the Same Logic
18:00 — The Plan to Shoot 450,000 Owls: Why It Won't Work
20:00 — The Endangered Species Act: How the Definition of Harm Is Being Gutted
23:00 — The One Big Beautiful Bill and the 60% Timber Increase
27:00 — Old Growth Redwoods, Carbon, and the True Cost of Logging
30:00 — The Lawsuit and What Comes Next
32:00 — Wild Horses: 80,000 vs. 4.3 Million Cattle
36:00 — Wolves: Delisted for Politics, Hunted by Snowmobile
37:00 — Fertility Control as a Humane Alternative
39:00 — Why Every Animal Sequesters Carbon
40:00 — The Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Its Origins
44:00 — The Environmental Groups That Got This Wrong
47:00 — Direct Mail, Organizational Efficiency, and the 95% Program Model
50:00 — What Animal Wellness Action Has Actually Accomplished
53:00 — Wildfires, Forest Management, and Fossil Fuels
57:00 — The Colorado River and the Water Crisis
01:00:00 — What You Can Do: Congress, Donations, and Showing Up
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28:41 Reframing the question from sustainable to regenerative commerce
31:04 Three votes you cast every day: as consumer, worker, and investor
34:45 Why supporting higher education, including cause partner Prescott College, matters right now
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CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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16:00 — AI in Podcast Production and the Disclosure Question
17:30 — The Website Disclaimer: What It Says and Why
18:30 — AI as Amplifier of Care — Used With Intention
19:00 — Four Questions to Ask Before Adopting Any AI Tool
20:00 — The Freedom Not to Use AI: Your Integrity Is Yours
20:30 — Closing: Embracing Technology with Intention, Purpose, and Integrity
"Ethics of care moves us from thinking in rules and regulations, in inputs and outputs, to who is affected and what do they need. This show's name is essentially a care ethics thesis. Care more, be better. The order matters. You have to care first."
— Corinna Bellizzi, PhD | Care More Be Better | Episode #301
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01:04 The Evolution Of A "Professional Bummer" In Organizational Effectiveness
06:58 Navigating Massive Transitional Moments And Organizational Crisis
12:06 The AI Disruption: The Danger Of Polished Plans Over Rough Drafts
17:58 Grappling With Wealth And Philanthropy In The Social Sector
27:50 Power Sharing Vs. Abdication: Explaining "Power Under"
37:05 Tending To Acute Organizational Grief And Leadership Departures
42:00 The Myth Of Neutrality: How Everyday Actions Build Or Erode Trust
50:23 Getting Unstuck: Practical Tools And Experiments For Staff And Leadership
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CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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01:02:00 — Closing: Inspired and Enraged
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