Welcome to The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast — a top-ranked show in Business News where entrepreneurship, creativity, media strategy, and pop culture collide. Whether you are building a business, growing a personal brand, launching a podcast, writing a book, or expanding your influence as a thought leader, this show was built for you.
We believe business doesn't have to be boring. The most successful entrepreneurs are always learning, adapting, and evolving — and that means mastering business strategy, branding, marketing, AI tools, podcasting, publishing, and public speaking, while staying locked in on the pop culture moments, entertainment headlines, and media trends shaping the marketplace right now.
Why? Because there is business behind everything. From viral moments and major brand moves to celebrity influence and cultural shifts, the biggest business lessons are playing out in real time. We break them down, make them actionable, and help you apply them to your brand and your bottom line.
Each episode delivers real conversations, expert guest interviews, and practical frameworks to help you grow revenue, build authority, and expand your reach in today's creator economy. No fluff. No filler. Just the strategies that actually move the needle.
What we cover: Business growth and monetization · Branding and authority building · Podcast and media strategy · Public speaking and visibility · AI and emerging tools · Publishing and thought leadership · Pop culture and business trends · Entrepreneurship and mindset · Marketing and content creation · Personal brand development
Most of all, we believe in connection, community, and building meaningful relationships. Entrepreneurship can feel isolating — but growth accelerates when you surround yourself with the right people, the right tools, and the right conversations. This show is designed to help you move faster, think bigger, and build smarter.
Whether you are a seasoned CEO, a rising entrepreneur, a content creator, or a thought leader ready to own your stage and scale your influence, The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast meets you where you are and challenges you to go further.
Ready for an incredible live experience? Join us at Cre8tive Con — the traveling conference where entrepreneurs, creators, and thought leaders come together to learn, connect, and grow. Visit www.cre8tivecon.com to find an event near you.
About the hosts:
Julie Lokun, JD — Business strategist, podcaster, speaker, and publicity expert. Founder of Dragonfly Effect and co-founder of Mediacasters, Julie helps entrepreneurs amplify their message, increase visibility, and build authority through media, publicity, and strategic brand positioning. Learn more at www.julielokunconsulting.com.
Dominick Domasky — Publisher, bestselling author, speaker, and founder of Motivation Champs (www.motivationchamps.com). Dom helps authors, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders share powerful stories, build strong brands, and create lasting impact through publishing and media.
Together, Julie and Dom bring sharp insights, powerful guests, and unfiltered conversations to help creative entrepreneurs grow — in business, media, and beyond.
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This episode opens with a data-driven look at the AI infrastructure boom — a $500 billion NVIDIA-backed bet involving Apollo, BlackRock, Blackstone, Brookfield, and Goldman Sachs — and the growing local pushback against AI data centers across the U.S. From there, the conversation pivots to a bigger question: as AI content floods every platform, is the real business opportunity in human storytelling?
Guest Char Murphy — founder of Mission Hope and BelieveInspire, retired attorney, and eight-time #1 bestselling author — joins Julie and Dominick to unpack:
How to spot AI-generated manuscripts (hint: watch the cadence)
Why she asks authors point-blank, "Did you write this?"
The line between using AI as a tool (brainstorming, outlining, brand-building) versus letting it write your story
How writing and publishing personal stories is a healing, transformative process
Her own journey surviving breast cancer four times, near-blindness, and rebuilding her identity after losing her law career
Practical advice for entrepreneurs who want to write a book or start a podcast but feel stuck
The episode closes with an AI-generated "Char Murphy" outro — a live experiment testing whether AI can actually capture a real person's voice and heart (spoiler: it can't quite get there).
Timestamps
00:00 — Intro: Is the AI bubble about to pop? $500B AI infrastructure bet, Google's "zero-click" search problem
02:30 — Community pushback on AI data centers; can the U.S. win the AI race?
04:00 — Meet Char Murphy: attorney, 4x breast cancer survivor, founder of Mission Hope
06:00 — How Char vets manuscripts for AI-generated content
08:30 — The "AI cadence" problem: one-word sentences and repetitive rhythms in books
13:00 — Char's personal story: surviving cancer four times and rebuilding from nothing
16:00 — Why writing your own story is part of the healing process
19:00 — Mission Hope: building a community around authentic storytelling
24:00 — Where AI does have a place: branding, marketing, ideation — not memoirs
27:30 — Advice for entrepreneurs who want to write a book or launch a podcast but feel stuck
30:00 — Final advice for anyone "in the middle of the storm"
32:00 — The AI-generated "Char Murphy" outro experiment
Guest: Char Murphy
Char Murphy is a retired attorney, motivational speaker, and eight-time #1 bestselling author who survived breast cancer four separate times, faced near-blindness, and rebuilt her identity and career from the ground up. She is the founder of BelieveInspire and creator of the Mission Hope anthology series, a global storytelling movement and bestselling book collection curating authentic stories of resilience, faith, and healing.
Julie Lokun — Founder of The Mediacasters, co-founder of Dragonfly Podcast Academy, and co-host of The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast
Dominick Domasky — Co-host of The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, longtime publishing collaborator
Key Quotes / Soundbites
"It's that same human interaction that we all crave and that we want. So when it comes to storytelling, if it's not the real person telling the story, then where's the legitimacy behind it?" — Char Murphy
"Why let a computer tell your story for you?" — Char Murphy
"If an AI is writing your story, then it's not gonna heal you. It's not gonna heal anybody else really, because that legitimacy is not coming through." — Char Murphy
"Just start. Just start writing." — Char Murphy's advice to aspiring authors
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What We Love About America | Labor Day Bonus Episode
Monday, September 7, 2026 • Duration 59:49
At The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, we love spotlighting members of our community, the businesses they’re building, the shows they’re creating and all the cool things they’re doing along the way.
For this special Labor Day bonus episode, we’re featuring Not the Smartest Guys in the Room, hosted by someone you might recognize, Dominick Domasky, and his good friend Tom Langan.
This episode is all about what we love about America. From freedom, opportunity and chasing a dream to football, food, road trips, small towns, big cities and plenty of uniquely American craziness, Tom and Dom celebrate the people, places and possibilities that make this country special.
Entrepreneurship has always been about believing something is possible, taking a chance and creating your own path. That spirit is a big part of what we celebrate every week on The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, and it’s at the heart of this conversation too.
Happy Labor Day from The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast. Enjoy this special bonus episode of Not the Smartest Guys in the Room.
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They Didn't Get Picked, They Picked Themselves: What Curry Barker, Kane Parsons & MrBeast Prove About the Creator Economy vs. Hollywood
This week on The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, hosts Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky unpack one of the biggest shifts in media history: the mainstream isn't discovering creators anymore — creators built the mainstream themselves. The conversation centers on Curry Barker's breakout horror film "Obsession," made for under $1 million and grossing over $500 million worldwide, and Kane Pixels (Kane Parsons), whose debut film opened bigger than any release in A24's history — the same weekend Disney's "Mandalorian and Grogu" dropped 70% in its second week on a $165 million budget.
Julie and Dominick use these case studies to explore a bigger question: is business risk actually lower when you invest in creators with built-in, proven audiences? They walk through how the algorithm shift from follower-count-based distribution to interest-based media has leveled the playing field for entrepreneurs starting from zero, why consistency and "camera-ready" content matter more than luck, and how creators like MrBeast (Beast Bars, Beast Games on Prime Video) and Jake Paul (Prime Hydration, boxing promotion) diversified their attention into full product portfolios instead of renting an audience from a single platform.
The episode also touches on a real community example — a creator who turned her personal story around on TikTok and grew fast enough to land a booking on Jenny McCarthy's podcast within months — and closes with a challenge to entrepreneurs sitting on the sidelines waiting for permission from a studio, network, or publisher that no longer holds the keys.
Key Topics & Timestamps
The Curry Barker "Obsession" case study: $750K budget, $500M+ worldwide gross
Kane Pixels (Kane Parsons) outselling A24's biggest openings at age 20
Why proven audience size is now lower business risk than a traditional Hollywood pitch
How interest-based algorithms (not follower count) decide who gets discovered in 2026
MrBeast and Jake Paul: turning attention into product, not just views
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How often do we overlook our own leadership because no one has given it a title?
And what changes when someone recognizes what is already within us before we are ready to claim it for ourselves?
Those two questions sit at the center of Season 1, Episode 4 of Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana, where host Tina Eliana sits down with entrepreneur, author, and podcaster Julie Lokun, JD, for a conversation titled "How to Recognize Your Everyday Leadership." It is a personal, unfiltered discussion about self-trust, courage, judgment, vulnerability, belief, and influence — and about the leadership so many of us practice long before we ever recognize it as leadership at all.
Because leadership does not suddenly appear the moment we get a promotion, a platform, or permission. It is already there, in the way we show up, long before anyone hands us a title.
About This Episode
Leadership is usually framed as something that happens after — after the promotion, after the platform, after someone in charge decides you're ready. This episode of Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana pushes back on that idea entirely. Tina Eliana and Julie Lokun spend the hour making the case that leadership is something most of us are already doing, quietly, in the decisions nobody sees — and that the real turning point isn't earning the title, it's finally recognizing what was already true.
Julie Lokun is an entrepreneur, author, speaker, podcaster, and the founder of The Mediacasters, an omni-media company built to help entrepreneurs and creatives amplify their voices through podcasting, publishing, and public speaking. She is also the founder of Cre8tive Con and co-founder, alongside Dr. JC Doornick, of Dragonfly Podcast Academy, where entrepreneurs learn how to launch, grow, and monetize their own podcasts. Her guiding philosophy — — runs underneath everything she builds, and it shows up throughout this conversation.
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Kwame Christian on Compassionate Curiosity: The Negotiation Framework That Ends People-Pleasing for Good
He was a people-pleaser who said "sounds good" while dying inside. Then a negotiation class he only picked because it "fit his schedule" rewired his entire nervous system — and turned Kwame Christian, Esq. into one of the most in-demand negotiators on the planet.
In this episode of The Creative Entrepreneur, Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky sit down with Kwame Christian — CEO of the American Negotiation Institute, host of Negotiate Anything (16M+ downloads, 1,700+ episodes, the #1 negotiation podcast in the world for nearly a decade), two-time bestselling author, Forbes contributor, and the creator of LinkedIn's only negotiation certificate. Global Gurus just named him a Top 10 negotiation professional in the world for 2026, and in his spare time, he's a 99th-percentile chess player with 20,000 games logged.
This conversation goes past the LinkedIn-post version of Kwame's story into the real one: a six-year-old getting rejected on the playground, a law school elective picked at random, and the framework — Compassionate Curiosity — that's now taught inside Google, Apple, and NASA.
What You'll Learn
The chess principle that applies directly to business strategy: why "control the center, develop your pieces, and don't move the same piece twice" is a lesson in decision-making under uncertainty.
Why negotiation is a skill, not a talent — and how one law school competition win rewired Kwame's entire sense of identity.
The origin story of his people-pleasing — a first-grade playground rejection that shaped two decades of over-accommodating.
The Compassionate Curiosity framework: acknowledge and validate emotions → get curious with compassion → joint problem-solving.
The 70/30 rule: why the best negotiators speak 30% of the time and listen 70%, and why "you can't say something stupid while you're listening."
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Own Your Ecosystem: Inside Cre8tive Con OTR Boston : AI, Automation & Trust with Kerry Brett, John Lee, Neil Rogers and Nick Hutchison
Episode 205
Monday, August 17, 2026 • Duration 19:50
The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast hit the road for Cre8tive Con OTR (On The Road) Boston, hosted at One Financial Center. Co-hosts Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky sit down post-event to unpack the blind spots most business owners never see — and the strategists who exposed them live.
Inside this episode:
Kerry Brett (Rolling Stone, Boston Globe photographer) on optics and how you're perceived before you speak
John Lee, NYT bestselling author of Money Unlocked, on leveraging AI to scale your brand and business
Keap (CRM) on automation that still feels human — following up at scale without losing connection
Neil Rodgers on positive activity and the mindset work behind sustainable growth
Nick Hutchison of BookThinkers on why "trust is transitive" and how community compounds credibility
Julie and Dominick's 8 Pillars of Owning Your Ecosystem: website, email list, book/IP, podcast, community, content library, live events, and your own stage
The hosts also share how phone-free "portal" moments (inspired by mentor Sean Finegan) shaped the room, and tease the next stop: Cre8tive Con OTR Orlando, timed around PodFest Expo.
Key Takeaways
You don't own rented land — social platforms can disappear overnight. Build your own ecosystem instead.
Optics matter before you ever open your mouth.
AI is a scaling asset, not a replacement for strategy.
Automation should sound like you, not a robot.
Trust is transitive — the right relationships open doors faster than cold outreach.
FAQs
What is Cre8tive Con OTR? Cre8tive Con OTR (On The Road) is the traveling live-event series from Cre8tive Con, bringing entrepreneurs, authors, and podcasters together city by city — Boston was the launch stop, with Orlando next.
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Dr. Robert Epstein on Google, Grief, and the Warning He Can't Forget
Episode 204
Monday, August 10, 2026 • Duration 25:16
Dr. Robert Epstein says he was warned he could die for exposing the Search Engine Manipulation Effect. Months later, his wife was killed in a crash police still can't fully explain.
IN THIS EPISODE WITH DR. ROBERT EPSTEIN:In Part 2 with Dr. Robert Epstein, Julie Lokun is joined by special co-host Jen Fontanilla, filling in for Dom Domasky, for a conversation that goes somewhere darker than Part 1: the personal cost of being a whistleblower. Epstein shares the warning he says he received after testifying before the U.S. Senate about the Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME) — and the devastating loss of his wife, Misti, in a car accident he has publicly said made him question whether it was truly accidental. Jen and Julie sit with the weight of that story and what it means to speak truth to power when power is a trillion-dollar company. This isn't clickbait — it's a firsthand account of what it can cost to blow the whistle on Big Tech.
Timestamped chapters:
00:00 — Cold open: "Makes you wonder"
03:40 — Recap: what the Search Engine Manipulation Effect is and why it made Epstein a target
09:15 — The warning Dr. Epstein says he received
17:30 — Misti's story — who she was, not just how she died
25:00 — The night everything changed
33:10 — What the police investigation found — and didn't find
40:00 — Living with uncertainty: grief, suspicion, and moving forward
47:00 — What Dr. Epstein wants entrepreneurs and creators to take from his story
52:15 — Jen Fontanilla's take: what this means for anyone building a platform online
Guest bio:
Dr. Robert Epstein is Senior Research Psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology (AIBRT), the last PhD student trained under B.F. Skinner at Harvard University, and former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today. He testified before the U.S. Senate on the Search Engine Manipulation Effect and has spoken publicly about the threat he says preceded it, as well as the loss of his wife, Misti Vaughn, in 2019. More at drrobertepstein.com.
Bar Tips: The Bartender-Turned-Author Who Cracked the Code on Sales Without Selling with Neil Rogers
Episode 203
Thursday, August 6, 2026 • Duration 28:25
Bar Tips: The Bartender-Turned-Author Who Cracked the Code on Sales Without Selling
The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast | Julie Lokun & Dominick Domasky ft. Neil Rogers
Forget the funnels. Forget the scripts. The best sales training on earth might be happening behind a bar top on a Friday night — and Neil Rogers is here to prove it.
Neil is the author of Bar Tips: Everything I Needed to Know in Sales I Learned Behind the Bar — a book Julie calls dog-eared, underlined, and genuinely transformational. In this episode, Julie Lokun and Dominic Domasky sit down with Neil for an unscripted conversation about what decades in hospitality taught him about selling, leading, and connecting — the human way.
If you've ever felt like traditional sales advice makes you feel gross, manipulative, or fake — this episode is your reset.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why hospitality principles outperform traditional sales scripts every time
How to read people instead of reading a pitch deck
The fastest way to build real rapport (hint: it starts with a name)
How bartenders master the art of the upsell — without ever feeling pushy
Why time management and organization are underrated sales superpowers
How to handle difficult customers (and difficult clients) with grace
Why every sales skill is actually a life skill in disguise
How humility and kindness quietly outperform hustle culture
From Behind the Bar to the Boardroom
Neil breaks down why bartenders are some of the most naturally gifted sales professionals alive — masters of first impressions, active listening, emotional regulation, and grace under pressure. His philosophy: "We are not in the product business. We are in the hospitality business."
Whether you're closing six-figure deals or pouring drinks, the same truth applies — people want to feel seen, heard, and respected. Neil shares real stories from his career that prove trust and loyalty can't be manufactured through tactics. They're built one interaction at a time.
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Search Engine Manipulation: Dr. Robert Epstein on Who Really Controls Your Mind
Episode 202
Monday, August 3, 2026 • Duration 32:11
The Search Engine Manipulation Effect is real, it's measurable, and it's deciding things for you right now — including how people find your business.
ABOUT THIS EPISODE OF CREATIVE ENTRPRENEUR PODCAST
Dr. Robert Epstein — Harvard-trained psychologist, last PhD student under B.F. Skinner, and former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today — joins Julie Lokun and Jen Fontanilla to break down the Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME), the research he presented to the U.S. Senate on how algorithms quietly shift opinions, decisions, and even elections. They connect his findings to a bigger question every creative entrepreneur needs to answer: are you building on rented land, or do you Own Your Ecosystem? This one reframes "the algorithm" from a mystery into a system you can understand — and protect yourself from.
Timestamped chapters:
00:00 — Cold open: the number that should scare every entrepreneur
04:12 — Who is Dr. Robert Epstein? From Skinner's lab to Congress
11:30 — What is the Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME)?
19:45 — Online manipulation and why most people never notice it
27:00 — What this means for your brand, your platform, your audience
34:15 — Own Your Ecosystem: the antidote to algorithm dependency
41:00 — Rapid-fire: AI, free will, and what entrepreneurs should watch for next
47:30 — Dr. Epstein's advice for creators who feel powerless against Big Tech
Guest bio:
Dr. Robert Epstein is Senior Research Psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology (AIBRT), the last PhD student trained under B.F. Skinner at Harvard University, and the former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today. He is the author of 15 books and more than 250 articles, and his research on the Search Engine Manipulation Effect — published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences — has been the subject of testimony before the U.S. Senate. Learn more at drrobertepstein.com.
"The scariest manipulation is the one you never see happening."
How to Monetize a Podcast: Midwest Murder's Jonah Lantto on Live Shows, Sponsors & Owning Your Niche
Episode 201
Monday, July 27, 2026 • Duration 33:04
From Basement to Business: How Jonah Lantto Turned True Crime Into a Podcasting Empire
What if your next business breakthrough isn't a marketing funnel — it's a microphone?
In this episode of The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, hosts Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky sit down with Jonah Lantto, co-host of Midwest Murder, one of the fastest-growing true crime podcasts in the country. Jonah shares the real, unfiltered story of how a basement side project turned into a full-time podcasting business — one built on live shows, sponsorships, merch, and an audience that trusts him enough to show up in person, city after city.
This episode isn't just for true crime fans. It's a masterclass in podcast monetization, audience-building, and turning content into a real business vertical.
What You'll Learn in This Episode:
How Jonah went from a basement podcast to selling out live true crime shows across the Midwest
The exact moment he realized podcasting could become a full-time business
Why niching down (not chasing big-name stories like Gacy or Dahmer) became Midwest Murder's competitive advantage
How to "own your ecosystem" by building live events, email lists, and merch instead of relying on one platform
The five-year consistency rule that took Midwest Murder from North Dakota to Nashville
Beginner podcasting tips: equipment, editing software (Audacity), short-form video repurposing, and landing dream guests
Why every podcaster needs a content plan and episode arc before hitting record
Guest Spotlight: Jonah Lantto
Jonah Lantto is a true crime writer, live storyteller, podcast host, and wedding officiant based in the Midwest — available everywhere the story takes him. He's the co-host of Midwest Murder, a true crime podcast known for uncovering forgotten regional cases and turning them into sold-out live storytelling events across the Midwest and beyond.
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The "own your ecosystem, don't rent your audience" philosophy
Why consistency and a clear "why" beat chasing virality
Is mainstream media (CNN, ABC, Fox, cable) dead — or just adapting?
AI, content strategy, and why website designers and creators alike must "zag" when their industry zigs
As Julie Lokun puts it, the entrepreneurs winning right now aren't the ones with the most followers — they're the ones who understand their audience's deepest needs and treat every piece of content as a product, not a promotion. It's a principle echoed by marketing pioneer Gary Vaynerchuk, who has long argued that platforms and formats will keep shifting, but attention that gets logged and compounded over years — not chased overnight — is what eventually turns into real leverage.
Entrepreneurs, podcasters, content creators, marketing and brand strategists, small business owners building a media presence, and anyone deciding whether to invest time in building an audience on YouTube, TikTok, or Instagram before "the industry" ever comes calling.
Julie Lokun, JD, is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant, and founder of The Mediacasters LLC. Dominick Domasky is her longtime co-host and collaborator. Together they host The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, ranked in the top 0.05% of podcasts globally on Listen Notes and top 5 weekly on Apple Podcasts.
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own your ecosystem, don't rent your audience
What makes this episode especially layered is the history between the two women at the table. Julie is one of the people who recognized Tina's potential and believed in her message before Tina fully understood where that message could lead. That backstory adds a second dimension to the conversation: this isn't just two leadership voices theorizing about influence in the abstract. It's a real example of it, playing out between the two people discussing it.
Julie speaks candidly about the point in her life when living according to everyone else's expectations stopped being sustainable — the moment the gap between what she was performing and what she actually wanted became too wide to keep ignoring. From there, she and Tina dig into instinct, emotion, sound judgment, and the uncomfortable truth that confidence doesn't protect any of us from a blind spot. Competence and self-awareness are not the same thing, and this episode sits directly in that gap.
Tina and Julie explore questions that reach far beyond a job title, including:
What does everyday leadership look like before anyone calls it leadership? Long before a title is attached, leadership shows up in follow-through, in the choices made when no one is watching, and in the willingness to take responsibility for outcomes.
How much can one person's belief change another person's direction? Julie and Tina's own relationship becomes the case study — what it means to see potential in someone before they can fully see it in themselves, and how that early belief can reroute a career or a life.
What role should emotion play in leadership and business decisions? Rather than treating emotion as something to suppress in professional settings, the conversation reframes it as data — information that, ignored, tends to resurface as a blind spot later.
Why can intelligent, capable people still miss what is happening in front of them? Confidence and competence can coexist with a total blind spot. This episode dismantles the idea that being smart or accomplished makes anyone immune to missing the obvious.
How do shame and self-blame affect us after a blind spot? What happens in the aftermath matters as much as the blind spot itself — and Julie and Tina talk openly about the difference between accountability and self-punishment.
There are moments of laughter, reflection, and real vulnerability in this episode — the kind that may leave you reconsidering where you've already been leading without realizing it, and where you might still be waiting for a permission you no longer need.
Julie Lokun, JD is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant, and the founder of The Mediacasters LLC, an omni-media company built around one core belief: creators and entrepreneurs should own their ecosystem, not rent their audience.
Julie is also the co-founder of Dragonfly Cre8tions LLC, Dragonfly Podcast Academy, and Cre8tive Con, including its traveling OTR (On The Road) series, which brings Julie's Own Your Ecosystem framework directly to entrepreneurs and creatives across the country. She co-hosts two top-ranked shows: The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast alongside Dominick Domasky, and Get Obsessed Podcast alongside Mika Altidor — both of which rank in the top 0.05% of podcasts globally on Listen Notes and regularly chart in the top 5 on Apple Podcasts.
Julie holds a JD from John Marshall Law School/UIC, a BA in Journalism from Indiana University, and a Masters Certification in Life Coaching. She is also a contributing writer for Entrepreneur Magazine and MindValley.
Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana is a leadership podcast exploring intentional leadership beyond titles, positions, and organizational charts. Here, the titles get left at the door.
Through candid conversations that span industries, communities, cultures, and lived experience, the show examines everyday decisions, relationships, courageous choices, self-awareness, influence, and personal responsibility — often long before anyone officially calls the person living them a "leader."
No pedestal. No pretending. Just meaningful conversations about how we show up, and the influence we carry whether or not we've claimed it yet.
Tina Eliana is a Leadership and Learning Systems Advisor, author, speaker, podcast host, and community builder who helps individuals recognize the leader already within themselves — and helps organizations strengthen leadership across their teams.
A four-time WGU graduate and WGU Alumni Ambassador, Tina brings both an academic and a deeply personal lens to leadership development. She is also a patient advocate for Visual Snow Syndrome, an experience that informs the empathy and honesty she brings to every conversation on her show.
Across all of her work runs one simple belief: leadership isn't reserved for people with titles.
Dominick Domasky is Julie Lokun's longtime collaborator and co-host of The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, one of the top-ranked shows in Julie's growing media ecosystem. Together, Julie and Dominick have built a show — and a broader creative partnership — centered on helping entrepreneurs think bigger about the media they build and the ecosystems they own.
If this episode's themes of leadership, self-recognition, and owning your own narrative resonated with you, The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast goes even deeper into what it takes to build and lead as a creative entrepreneur every single week.
What is Episode 4 of Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana about? Season 1, Episode 4, titled "How to Recognize Your Everyday Leadership," features host Tina Eliana in conversation with Julie Lokun, JD, about self-trust, courage, judgment, vulnerability, belief, and the leadership many of us are already practicing before we recognize it in ourselves.
Who is Julie Lokun? Julie Lokun, JD, is an entrepreneur, author, speaker, and podcaster, and the founder of The Mediacasters. She also founded Cre8tive Con and co-founded Dragonfly Podcast Academy with Dr. JC Doornick. She co-hosts The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast and Get Obsessed Podcast.
Who is Tina Eliana? Tina Eliana is a Leadership and Learning Systems Advisor, author, speaker, and podcast host of Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana. She is a four-time WGU graduate, a WGU Alumni Ambassador, and a patient advocate for Visual Snow Syndrome.
What is "everyday leadership"? As discussed in this episode, everyday leadership refers to the leadership we practice in ordinary, unglamorous moments — showing up consistently, taking responsibility, trusting our own judgment — long before any title, promotion, or platform officially names us a leader.
How does belief from another person change our direction? Julie and Tina's own relationship illustrates this directly: Julie recognized potential in Tina before Tina fully understood where her own message could lead. The episode explores how one person's early belief in another can reroute the direction of a career or a life.
Why do capable, intelligent people still develop blind spots? Confidence and competence do not guarantee self-awareness. The episode unpacks why smart, accomplished people can still miss what's directly in front of them, and why humility — not intelligence — is what closes that gap.
Where can I listen to more episodes of Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana? You can find the full catalog of episodes at www.jamsessionswithtinaeliana.com.
Is there a related podcast where Julie Lokun is the host? Yes — Julie co-hosts The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast with Dominick Domasky and Get Obsessed Podcast with Mika Altidor, both of which explore entrepreneurship, media, and building an owned audience ecosystem.
If this conversation brings someone to mind — someone who may not yet recognize the leadership already within them — share this episode with them. It might be exactly the recognition they need.
Follow Jam Sessions With Tina Eliana wherever you listen, and turn on new-episode notifications when available.
After you listen, sit with this question: When did someone help you recognize the leader within yourself?
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The "acceptance speech test": how to frame an offer so well the other side could read it verbatim to their own team as a win.
"Concede according to plan": Kwame's rule for never making an emotional concession in the moment.
How to negotiate at home — and why the same framework that works with Fortune 500 clients works with a five-year-old and a ten-year-old.
Jules Rules: Julie, Dom, and Kwame each share their biggest negotiation misses — and how to avoid them.
"I wasn't born this way, I was built this way."
"The best things in life are on the other side of difficult conversations."
"Negotiation is the art of letting them have your way."
"I am more willing to accept failure than I am to accept regret."
"Every good decision will come with some collateral damage."
00:00 — Introducing Kwame Christian, Esq.
03:10 — Chess as a metaphor for business strategy
08:45 — From people-pleaser to negotiation champion
14:20 — The playground story behind the people-pleasing
19:30 — Introducing Compassionate Curiosity
27:15 — Negotiating at home vs. negotiating with Fortune 500 clients
33:40 — High-stakes negotiation on the world stage
39:05 — Jules Rules: negotiation misses
47:00 — The acceptance speech test and win-win negotiation
54:15 — Kwame's early-career negotiation mistake and final tips
Books: Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life and How to Have Difficult Conversations About Race
Hosted by Julie Lokun (The Mediacasters, Dragonfly Podcast Academy) and Dominick Domasky
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Who is Kwame Christian?
Kwame Christian, Esq., M.A. is an attorney, keynote speaker, and CEO of the American Negotiation Institute. He hosts Negotiate Anything, which was the #1 negotiation podcast in the world for nearly a decade, and has trained negotiation teams at Google, Apple, and NASA.
What is Compassionate Curiosity?
Compassionate Curiosity is Kwame Christian's three-step framework for difficult conversations: acknowledge and validate emotions, get curious with compassion by asking open-ended questions, and move into joint problem-solving so both sides work together against the problem instead of against each other.
What is the "acceptance speech test" in negotiation?
It's a technique for framing an offer so strongly from the other person's perspective that they could repeat it word-for-word to their own team as a personal win, while your own interests are still built into the deal.
What is Cre8tive Con?
Cre8tive Con is a live event experience co-founded by Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky, built around branding, podcasting, and creative entrepreneurship. Its traveling series, Cre8tive Con OTR, tours cities nationally and leads up to a flagship Cre8tive Con event.
Who is Julie Lokun?
Julie Lokun, JD is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant. She's the founder of The Mediacasters LLC, co-founder of Dragonfly Cre8tions LLC (including Dragonfly Podcast Academy), and co-founder of Cre8tive Con. She co-hosts The Creative Entrepreneur and Get Obsessed, and her podcasts rank in the top 0.05% globally on Listen Notes.
Who is Dominick Domasky?
Dominick Domasky is a co-founder of Cre8tive Con and co-host of The Creative Entrepreneur podcast alongside Julie Lokun, where the two interview founders, authors, and experts on branding, business growth, and creative entrepreneurship.
What is The Creative Entrepreneur podcast?
The Creative Entrepreneur is a business and branding podcast hosted by Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky, featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, authors, and experts like Kwame Christian on building brands, scaling businesses, and mastering the skills — like negotiation and communication — that drive long-term success.
Where can I learn more about Cre8tive Con OTR?
Cre8tive Con OTR is the traveling version of Cre8tive Con, bringing the event's branding and entrepreneurship programming to cities across the country as part of a national tour building toward a larger flagship event.
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What are the 8 Pillars of Owning Your Ecosystem? Website, email list, book/IP, podcast, community, content library, live events, and your own stage — the framework Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky use to help entrepreneurs stop renting audiences and start owning them.
Who spoke at Cre8tive Con OTR Boston? Kerry Brett, John Lee, Neil Rodgers, Nick Hutchison, and the Keap team joined hosts Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky.
When is Cre8tive Con OTR Orlando? It's coming up around PodFest Expo — details at cre8tivecon.com.
What book did John Lee talk about? His New York Times bestseller Money Unlocked, covering how to protect, grow, and scale your money.
Julie Lokun, JD is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant, and founder of The Mediacasters LLC. She co-founded Dragonfly Cre8tions LLC and Dragonfly Podcast Academy, and co-hosts both The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast and Get Obsessed Podcast — both ranked in the top 0.05% globally on Listen Notes. Learn more at julielokunconsulting.com.
Dominick Domasky is a speaker, brand strategist, and founder of Motivation Champs, known for his signature mantra: "Control it, don't let it control you." He co-founded Cre8tive Con and Cre8tive Con OTR with Julie Lokun. Learn more at motivationchamps.com.
Dr. Epstein also unpacks his Humanness Test, the tool he built to measure how "human" a person's responses really are — and what that means now that AI can pass for human in blind conversation studies. He points listeners to MyDigitalHygiene.com, home of his Digital Hygiene Inventory, a free assessment that scores your real-world skills for staying safe and private online.
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44:30 — The Humanness Test, AI, and why "sounding human" isn't what it used to be
46:00 — MyDigitalHygiene.com: are your digital hygiene habits protecting you?
What is Dr. Robert Epstein's Digital Hygiene Inventory?
The Epstein Digital Hygiene Inventory (EDHI) is a free online questionnaire at MyDigitalHygiene.com that measures 11 competency areas needed to use technology safely and privately. It's available in a one-minute abridged version and a 15-minute full version, both developed through Epstein's American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology (AIBRT).
Did Dr. Robert Epstein say he was warned about his safety?
Dr. Robert Epstein has publicly stated that after briefing state attorneys general on Google's ability to influence elections, one official told him he could "die in an accident in a few months." He has referenced this warning in connection with his wife's death, though he has also said he does not believe Google or Hillary Clinton were involved.
How did Misti Vaughn, Dr. Robert Epstein's wife, die?
Misti Dawn Vaughn died in December 2019 after her truck spun out on a wet road in California and collided with a tractor-trailer and an SUV. Investigators found no evidence that drugs or alcohol were a factor, and Epstein has publicly questioned — without confirming — whether the crash was truly accidental.
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This episode isn't just about sales. Neil opens up about being a father to a non-speaking autistic son, the impact the book Underestimated had on his family, and how spelling-to-communicate practices reshaped the way he thinks about empathy, patience, and truly listening — in business and in life.
Bar Tips: Everything I Needed to Know in Sales I Learned Behind the Bar by Neil Rogers Available on Amazon — a must-read for entrepreneurs, sales professionals, and anyone who works with people.
Small business owners • Entrepreneurs & founders • Sales professionals • Coaches & consultants • Side hustlers • Creative professionals building sustainable businesses
"Never avoid an opportunity to keep your mouth shut."
"Be humble and be kind."
"Sales is not about pressure. It's about presence."
If this episode hit home, subscribe to The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and share it with an entrepreneur who needs to hear it. It helps more creatives and founders find the show.
Explore more episodes and upcoming events: www.cre8tivecon.com ️ Join us live in Chicago in 2027 at Cre8tive Con!
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"If you don't own your ecosystem, someone else owns your audience."
"Free will online is a lot more fragile than people want to admit."
If this episode made you rethink who's really steering your business, hit follow and share it with one entrepreneur who needs to hear it. Own your ecosystem, don't rent your audience.
Julie & Dominick
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED TO ROCKWELL: I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY'S WATCHING ME
What is the Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME)?
The Search Engine Manipulation Effect is Dr. Robert Epstein's research finding that biased search rankings can shift people's opinions and choices without their awareness, because most users trust top search results as neutral. Epstein's studies, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, found this effect strong enough to influence election outcomes.
Who is Dr. Robert Epstein?
Dr. Robert Epstein is a Harvard-trained psychologist, the last PhD student under B.F. Skinner, and the former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today. He is Senior Research Psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology and has testified before the U.S. Senate on online manipulation.
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Julie Lokun, JD — Media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant. Founder of Dragonfly Cre8tions LLC and co-founder of The Mediacasters, Julie helps entrepreneurs build authority through podcasting, publicity, and strategic brand positioning. Her shows rank in the top 0.05% globally on Listen Notes and top 5 on Apple Podcasts weekly.
Dominick Domasky — Bestselling author, publisher, and founder of Motivation Champs Publishing. Co-host of The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast and a tireless champion for the creative entrepreneurship movement.
Ready to build your own creative business? Join Julie and Dom at Cre8tive Con, the national traveling entrepreneurship conference where podcasters, creators, and business builders come together to learn, connect, and grow.
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