Wealthy Woman Lawyer Podcast, Helping you create a profitable, sustainable law firm you love – Details, episodes & analysis

If you’ll recall, back a few weeks ago, I promised you a series called “The Dumbest Thing I’ve Heard Lately.” Part 1 was published on June 27th, so if you haven’t listened to that, you can go back after you’ve listened to this episode—they are each stand-alone and not in any particular order. 

The reason I’m creating this series is because I’m tired of all the bad business advice I keep seeing on these social media streets that people are all too quick to buy into. My intention is to offer you a different perspective to help you decide if certain advice is right for you.

Listen in to hear my thoughts on the most recent “dumb thing” I’ve heard.

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In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I have an insightful conversation with Jennifer B. Gardner, a lawyer with over 32 years of experience and the founder of Gardner and Associates. Jennifer shares her journey from working in various law firms to starting her own practice and how that led to the creation of her program, 'The Art of Influence.' Jennifer is passionate about influence, persuasion, and storytelling and teaches others to use these skills effectively in both legal practice and everyday life.

Listen in as Jennifer and I discuss:

• Jennifer’s journey from working in law firms to founding Gardner and Associates and building her own successful practice
• How influence and persuasion play a role in her legal career and her second passion for storytelling
• How Jennifer transitioned into coaching and teaching others the art of persuasion, charisma, and influence
• The role of emotional intelligence and storytelling in building a successful law practice
• Tips for managing courtroom anxiety and improving public speaking skills
• How Jennifer’s unique approach to influence helps lawyers win cases and build strong relationships with clients
• The importance of nonviolent communication and authentic self-expression in professional and personal relationships
• How lawyers can benefit from learning soft skills not taught in traditional law schools or legal environments

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***Want to connect with Jennifer? Visit her website: https://www.jenniferbgardner.com/

Or follow her on social media: 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamjenniferbgardner/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferbgardner/

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Welcome to today’s episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast! I'm your host Davina Frederick, and today's episode starts a series called 'The Dumbest Thing I’ve Heard Lately.'

It’s a series because, unfortunately, I’m reading and hearing dumb things all the time out on these social media streets, and I just can’t take it anymore. I have to say something about it.

And, no, I’m not talking about politics or Gen Z or TikTok; I’m talking about dumb business advice and words that are supposed to be inspirational but that may actually be harmful.

Listen in as I share:

• The dumbest thing I’ve heard lately—and who said it (I spill the tea).
• The myth social media influencers perpetuate that may be harmful to your mental health and wellbeing.
• What top billionaires have in common (besides their massive wealth).
• Why I think work can be a privilege, not a punishment.
• A must-read book I recommend about living a purpose-driven life.
• And much more!

I hope you enjoy this week’s episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts! Click on this link to message me about this topic or other dumb things you’ve heard this week that you might want to share with me.

Also, check out the Forbes Richest Self-Made Women in America 2024 list linked in the show notes. It’s inspiring to see who made the list!

In today’s episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast, I want to discuss something that most law firm coaches are afraid to tell you: it is highly unlikely to achieve 7 figures in a law firm business if you are still operating as a solo.

Yes, even if you have one or two staffers working for you.

It’s a hot topic, and we are going to get into it today. If you are a solo and you are listening to this thinking “Davina, that’s not true! Don’t crush my dreams!” I hear you, and I encourage you to please hear me out, because after 9 years—almost 10—of helping women law firm owners scale their law firm businesses I never want to crush someone’s dream or tell them about “reality.” I believe we have the power to create our own reality—however, the path to get there may not look the way we envision.

What I do want to do in today’s episode is challenge some of the beliefs that may be holding you back from achieving your biggest, baddest, most audacious goals.

Listen in as I share with you:

• Why I’ve devoting all of October to discuss how to expand your capacity for wealth and a $1M law firm business.
• The one question I hear all the time that keeps women law firm owners stuck doing it all.
• My recommended time frame for hiring your first one or two employees (or virtual assistants)
• The top revenue I think you can achieve as a solo and why I don’t think you should strive for this (Hint: you’ll pay a steep personal price to get there).
• Why the same thing that go you to where you are today as a solo is not the same thing that’s required to get you to the next level.
• The middle-America belief that likely is holding you back (It did me for far too long).
• The secret of any solo who says they are making a million dollars or more all by themselves (There’s more going on behind the curtain than you realize).
• 14 questions to help you identify whether it’s time to uplevel your mindset so you can expand your capacity for wealth.

I do hope you enjoy today’s show. If so, please be sure to leave us a review on your podcast app. The more five-star reviews, the higher we rank on the app and the more women law firm owners we can help.

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer, LLC, a law firm growth strategy and business coaching company for women law firm owner who are determined to scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M with total ease. For more information on how to work with us to help you and your law firm, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com.

Warmly,

Davina

Mentioned in the show:

• Visit our website: www.wealthywomanlawyer.com
• Connect with us on Instagram
• Join our free Facebook community
• Show our new sponsor, NoBull Marketing, some love.
• Schedule an appointment with NoBull Marketing.

Note: Wealthy Woman Lawyer® has an affiliate relationship with NoBull Marketing and may receive compensation for referrals.

In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I chat with Christie Arkovich, a Florida licensed attorney for more than 30 years, and a frequent presenter for continuing legal education seminars hosted by the American Bankruptcy Institute (“ABI”), the National Association of Consumer Advocates (“NACA”) and the Tampa Bay Bankruptcy Bar Association (the “TBBBA”). 

Christie also writes a quarterly column for the TBBBA, Student Loan Sidebar, and maintains a Youtube Channel for the Student Loan Sidebar at www.youtube.com/c/arkovichlaw about recent student loan related laws, regulations, and developments nationwide.

Prior to starting her own law firm in 1995, Christie worked as trial counsel for Sallie Mae, ECMC and other student loan servicers or guarantors. She recently served on the Student Loan Committee for the new Student Loan Management Program in the Bankruptcy Court for the Middle District of Florida and was Chair of the Consumer CLE for the Tampa Bay Bankruptcy Bar Association for 2019-2022.

“Most of our clients nowadays, you know, they want to repay what they borrow, they understand they signed a contract (and) they're good with that. What they can't pay is the excessiveness…because with the cost of interest with a default, which basically adds 25%
collection costs on a federal loan, you end up with just something that's unpayable. We get
rid of that excessiveness, and then we try to do it in a way that's tax free, or at least with an
understanding of what that potential tax issue could be..” – Christie Arkovich

Listen in as Christi and I discuss…

• Why people were able to pay their student loans in the 80s and 90s (even with higher interest rates) and what’s changed since (no, it’s not your imagination)
• How to explain to your grandma why you are struggling to pay your student loan debt.
• How Arkovich Law helped a 70-year-old neurosurgeon get out from under $1.1M in debt so he could finally retire.
• The many ways high student loan debt can affect your ability to lead a rich life.
• Why forbearance is never the best solution (even though the lenders so kindly offer it—don’t be fooled!)
• How the three-pronged Bruner test keeps you from discharging student loans in bankruptcy (A clear example of “good cases make bad law”).
• How to refresh your memory about what kind of loan you have so you can assess what type of relief may be available to you.
• One trick that will help you tell whether your student loan servicer is lying to you about what type of loan you have and the relief you may be entitled to
• Critical deadlines you need to know! (Write these down.) (Important update: Since we recorded this podcast episode on September 27th, the law has changed around consolidating FFEL loans—government-backed loans held by private lenders—in that effective September 29th, you can no longer consolidate these types of loans to Direct Loans and quality for the one-time $10,000 relief grant).

And much, much more!

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer.®  We help women law firm owners scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M in gross annual revenue with total ease so they can fully fund—and still have time to enjoy—the lifestyle of their dreams! If you want to know more, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com
or follow us on Instagram @wealthywomanlawyer.  Also, you are invited to join our free Facebook group, Wealthy Woman Lawyer. See you on the inside!

Warmly,

Davina

Mentioned in this episode:

• Visit Christie’s website
• Connect with her on LinkedIn
• Listen to Christie’s YouTube Channel
• If you are Tampa and need a meeting space check out: South Tampa Work Spaces
• Get more info on your loans and relief policies: www.studentaid.gov

Are you considering investing the profits from your law firm business into real estate? You are not alone!

Investing in real estate, becoming a landlord, and flipping houses have all become increasingly popular over the past few years as interest rates were at an all time low. Even now as the interest rates are creeping back up, house prices are dropping, and committed investors are staying in the game and making money.

In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast, Attorney LaTerria Sherer, CEO of The Sherer Law Firm, shares how she dove into the real estate investment biz heels first!

We cover it all including the difference between a 30-year mortgage loan and a hard money loan (and one thing you should definitely do if you take out a hard-money loan), the worst mistake she made as a first-time real estate investor, and how to build your all-important network if you want to succeed in real estate investing.

If you’ve been considering investing in real estate, you’ll want to listen to this episode asap.

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer.® We help women law firm owners scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M in gross annual revenue with total ease so they can fully fund—and still have time to enjoy—the lifestyle of their dreams! If you want to know more, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com
or follow us on Instagram @wealthywomanlawyer. Also, you are invited to join our free Facebook group, Wealthy Woman Lawyer. See you on the inside!

Warmly,

Davina

Mentioned in this episode:

• The Sherer Law Firm’s website
• Connect with LaTerria on Facebook
• Follow her on Instagram
• Connect with her on LinkedIn
• Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking by Susan Cain  
• The 10X Rule by Grant Cardone  
• Handyman.com
• Angi (formerly Angie’s List)

In this series, we’re tackling the question: “What do I do once I start amassing wealth through my law firm business?”

There are many avenues you could venture down when it comes to investing your wealth, diversifying your assets, and achieving financial freedom. So, let’s explore one of the most popular investments of 2022 – short-term rentals! 

Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Holly Draper, CEO and Managing Partner of The Draper Law Firm, PC in McKinney, Texas, has found great success in investing her law firm profits into real estate and turning beautiful single family homes into short-term rental properties.

In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I asked Holly all about the business of short-term rentals, and she provides so many helpful tips and strategies for those who want to start investing in real estate.

If you’re interested in turning the profits you make from your hard work into a passive income-generating machine, be sure to tune in to this episode to hear how Holly has minimized her time investment in this lucrative venture.

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer.® We help women law firm owners scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M in gross annual revenue with total ease so they can fully fund—and still have time to enjoy—the lifestyle of their dreams! If you want to know more, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com
or follow us on Instagram @wealthywomanlawyer. Also, you are invited to join our free Facebook group, Wealthy Woman Lawyer. See you on the inside!

Warmly,

Davina

Mentioned in this episode:

• Listen to Episode 135 with Holly Draper 
• The Draper Law Firm’s website
• Connect with her on Facebook
• Connect with Holly on LinkedIn
• Listen to the Texas Family Law Insiders Podcast
• AirDNA
• MashVisor

I’m writing a new book, tentatively titled, The Wealthy Woman Lawyer’s Guide to Amassing Wealth: 7 Passive Income Investment Ideas to Help You Diversify Your Assets, Generate Income, and Enjoy True Financial Freedom.

So many women law firm owners have asked me: “What do I do once I start amassing wealth through my law firm business?”

If you’ve never had wealth before, this can be a daunting question. Is it enough to just spend it all on travel (some people think so!)? Or should you be diversifying your wealth portfolio? Ultimately, that all depends on your life goals.

Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Stacey Kiren, CEO and Founder of Kirven Law in Sheridan, Wyoming, recently decided to invest some of her law firm profits into a second business, one that had long been a dream of hers and is completely unrelated to law.

In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I asked her about her new business investment—the good, the bad and the ugly—and she shared it all!

If you are thinking about investing the profits from your wealth-generating law firm into another business, you are going to love this episode!

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer.® We help women law firm owners scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M in gross annual revenue with total ease so they can fully fund—and still have time to enjoy—the lifestyle of their dreams! If you want to know more, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com
or follow us on Instagram @wealthywomanlawyer. Also, you are invited to join our free Facebook group, Wealthy Woman Lawyer. See you on the inside!

Warmly,

Davina

Mentioned in this episode:

• Learn more about Stacy 
• Connect with her on LinkedIn
• Connect with her on Facebook
• Learn more about Kirven Law, LLC
• Email Stacy at stacy@kirvenlawwyo.com

In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I welcome Steve Fretzin, the Founder and President of Fretzin Inc., a company that helps lawyers become better business developers and rainmakers with sales-free selling. For the past 18 years, Steve Fretzin has devoted his career to helping lawyers master the art of business development to achieve their law firm growth goals, He’s the author of multiple books on rainmaking for lawyers, and the host of the “Be That Lawyer” podcast.

“We need to get business and we need to get business fast, and if you follow a proven process of how to do networking more effectively, social media more effectively, walking buyers through buying decisions, client loyalty, these are all learned processes and lawyers are just totally unequipped, out of law school and even at the law firm level, to do it.” - Steve Fretzin

Listen in as Steve and I discuss…

• Why Steve niched down to work only with lawyers after decades in sales.
• How both introverts and extroverts can be good rainmakers (Hint: adapting to your audience is the key.)
• Strategies for building relationships with referring professionals.
• How best to communicate to other professionals that you want a reciprocal business relationship with them. (There’s specific language you’ll want to use!)
• Agenda-setting for networking meetings so you get better results than winging it.
• How to add value for someone in your network even when you can’t make direct referrals.
• Handling common objects without icky sales vibes.
• Time management tips for busy attorneys who “don’t have time for business development”.

And much more!

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer.®  We help women law firm owners scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M in gross annual revenue with total ease so they can fully fund—and still have time to enjoy—the lifestyle of their dreams! If you want to know more, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com
or follow us on Instagram @wealthywomanlawyer.  Also, you are invited to join our free Facebook group, Wealthy Woman Lawyer. See you on the inside!

Warmly,

Davina

Mentioned in this episode:

• Visit Steve’s website
• Connect with him on LinkedIn
• Listen to BE THAT LAWYER Podcast
• Steve Fretzin’s books
• The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey
• Getting Things Done by David Allen

A few months back, I released a podcast episode in which I shared some books that have been life changing for me. These are all great books to be sure, but it’s not the only thing they had in common. They also were all written by MEN. Well, on a podcast for women, that just won’t do.

So…in this episode, I’m sharing with you 10 life-changing books from my personal collection—all written by some truly amazing and inspiring women.

Enjoy! And please let me know not only what you think about these books and their authors, but all share with me your favorite non-fiction, business, and inspirational books by women. Who inspires you!

The Wealthy Woman Lawyer® Podcast is sponsored by Wealthy Woman Lawyer, LLC, a law firm growth strategy and business coaching company for women law firm owner who are determined to scale their law firm businesses to and thru $1M with total ease. For more information on how to work with us to help you and your law firm, visit our website at www.wealthywomanlawyer.com.

Warmly,
Davina

Mentioned in the show:

Coach Yourself to Success, Talane Miedaner
Let Go Now, Embracing Detachment, Karen Casey
You Are a Badass at Making Money, Jen Sincero
We Should All Be Millionaires, Rachel Rodgers
The Charisma Myth, Olivia Fox Cabane
Breaking Money Silence, Kathleen Burns Kingsbury
Quiet, The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking, Susan Cain
Grit, The Power of Passion and Perseverance, Angela Duckworth
The Way Women Are, Transformative Opinions and Dissents of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Edited with Introduction by Cathy Cambron
Self Made, Inspired by the Life of Madame C.J. Walker, Originally published as “On Her Own Ground” by A’lelia Bundles.