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"Therapy is not something that anyone needs, but it is something we all deserve."
-Dené Logan, Marriage and Family Therapist

This week I sit down with Dené Logan, a marriage and family therapist with a specialization in depth psychology. Dené is the author of "Sovereign: A Guide to Healing Relationships by Reclaiming the Masculine and Feminine Within."  Dené shares her unique perspective on how depth psychology, often referred to as the psychology of the soul, can guide us to foster healthier relationships. Dené shares insights from her experience as a marriage and family therapist, emphasizing the importance of personal responsibility in relationships and the need for individuals to reclaim their authentic selves. We discuss the rise of the feminine in society and the significance of understanding healthy versus wounded energetics in both men and women. We also talk about the challenges of finding the right therapist and the value therapy has had on our personal growth.

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In this episode, I interview Lindsey Cormack, associate professor of political science and director of the diplomacy lab at Stevens Institute of Technology, and author of "How to Raise a Citizen." 

We discuss the importance of teaching children about politics and civic engagement. Lindsey explains that civics education is often deprioritized in schools, leading to a lack of understanding among adults. She emphasizes the need for parents to take on the responsibility of teaching their children about citizenship and government. 

Lindsey outlines five key skills that children should learn: 
-how to register to vote, 
-the difference between primary and general elections, 
-understanding federalism, 
-reading the constitution, 
-and being comfortable with having hard conversations. 

We also touch on the misconceptions around the United States being a democracy versus a constitutional republic.

From understanding the basics of government structure to the importance of voting and critical thinking, this episode is packed with insights and actionable advice. Whether you're a parent, educator, or simply someone looking to become a better citizen, this conversation is a must-listen.  I certainly learned A LOT!

All About My Guest:
Lindsey Cormack
https://www.lindseycormack.com/

Where to buy the book!
How to Raise a Citizen (And Why It's Up to You to Do It)
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I have a few things we should talk about this week!

• Do you think I need a permanent co-host?
• Why is it so hard to get people to talk on the show?
• Is Taylor Swift causing friendships to end?
• Mahjong

It's a random assortment.  It's a monologue.  I promised I wouldn't do any monologues.  So what should I do about that?

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The Two Jesses, prior to this conversation with Stephanie Wittels Wachs, would have both told you guns are bad. Full stop. But Stephanie has traveled from Montana to Atlanta in search of answers- and they have left her with more questions, and an anger for the system that has pitted us against each other, in a place with zero social net to take care of those who need support with mental health.

Throughout the interviews Stephanie holds with the families who have been changed fundamentally by a gun ending the life of their loved ones, she wonders about the purpose of a gun- and whether or not the gun, in and of itself, is fundamentally bad. 

An important conversation, clarifying, and really smart. Check out Stephanie on https://lemonadamedia.com/show/lastday/ to learn more about her work around the opioid epidemic, gun violence and how we can help support the mental health crisis that is taking place in America.

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Award winning podcaster, Bridget Todd, sits down with The Two Jess(es) to talk about how marginalized people show up online, and how disinformation (purposely spreading incorrect information to further one's agenda) and misinformation (spreading inaccurate information with no intention of causing harm) is really a racial, gender, justice and democratic issue.

Bridget created her critically acclaimed podcast, “There Are No Girls On The Internet” to explore how marginalized people show up online in response to the lack of diversity in conversations around social media platforms and misinformation.  There is no shortage of conversation points as Bridget shares openly about her own experiences with dis- & mis- information as a woman, and particular a woman of color.  Bridget shares about what it means to be a good steward of the internet and how critically important it is to us as a society to slow down, take a beat, and ownership considering what could be true and what could be false, and how we share both with our communities.

Meet Bridget!

Bridget Todd is a frequently cited expert, trainer, and speaker on combating disinformation, conspiracy theories, and extremism online advocating for social media platform accountability. Creating safer digital experiences for women and other marginalized people as well as celebrating and amplifying marginalized people’s contributions to tech and the internet is what caused Bridget to create her critically acclaimed podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet to explore how marginalized people show up online in response to the lack of inclusion in conversations around the internet. 

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Jess and Jess sit down for a REAL and authentic conversation with the Canadian version of...THEM! Jen Hoffmeister and Tesha Gibbon, co-hosts of the Now What Podcast share their own experience of loss, grief, and the deep pain of loneliness that comes with being a human. In response to people not knowing what to say or how to support them, Jen and Tesha started a podcast meant to highlight vulnerability and hold space for those who have had to figure out how to rebuild their lives after tragic loss or trauma.

An honest conversation, as always- informative, sensitive and necessary. Jen and Tesha have a good thing going! Check them out at https://www.nowwhatpod.com/

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According to studies conducted throughout the course of the pandemic, mothers were able to complete ONE hour of work during lockdown, as opposed to their male counterparts, who were able to complete THREE hours of uninterrupted work.  New York Time's Bestselling author of Fair Play and now, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too Busy World, Eve Rodsky, is working to change society, one partnership at a time by coming up with a new 21st-century solution to an age-old problem: women shouldering 2/3 or more of the unpaid domestic work and childcare for their homes and families.

In this episode, The Two Jess(es) sit down with Eve and talk about how WeSTAT has been the Unicorn Space that has saved them, one they didn't even know they needed. Together with Eve, they talk about the unapologetic carving out of sustained time to pursue creative work- and how it is THE way to keep from languishing in the deluge of the daily grind of motherhood life.

Meet Eve:
Eve Rodsky transformed a “blueberries breakdown” into a catalyst for social change when she applied her Harvard-trained background in organizational management to ask the simple yet profound question: What would happen if we treated our homes as our most important organizations? Her New York Times bestselling book and Reese’s Book Club Pick, Fair Play, a gamified life-management system that helps partners rebalance their domestic workload and reimagine their relationship, has elevated the cultural conversation about the value of unpaid labor and care. In her highly anticipated follow-up, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World, Rodsky explores the cross-section between the science of creativity, productivity, and resilience. Described as the ‘antidote to physical, mental, and emotional burno

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Jess and Jess are both very familiar with anxiety. But is it true anxiety or false anxiety? Or is it both, at the same time? Dr. Ellen Vora, holistic psychiatrist and acupuncturist, takes a functional medicine approach to her patients when they come to her with anxiety symptoms. Dr. Vora maintains that oftentimes we feel anxiety symptoms because there is something out of alignment within our bodies. She starts with asking questions about food, sleep, hormone balancing, and the like- and more often than not, anxious states of being can be leveled out by practicing good sleep hygiene, taking gluten out of the diet, getting off birth control or leveling out blood sugar.
A thoughtful conversation about anxiety as a cue to the deeper parts of our body, mind and spirit that need us to prioritize our attention on what matters most.


Meet Dr. Ellen!
ELLEN VORA, MD, is a holistic psychiatrist, acupuncturist, and yoga teacher. She takes a functional medicine approach to mental health—considering the whole person and addressing imbalance at the root. Dr. Vora received her B.A. from Yale University and her M.D. from Columbia University, and she is board-certified in psychiatry and integrative holistic medicine. She lives in New York City with her husband and daughter. 

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This episode has been TWO YEARS  in the making! When Jess and Jess started WeSTAT, their vision was to hold live recordings in their community where their audience and supporters could attend, and be involved in the conversation- and then the pandemic hit.
Finally, after so many pivots and plan changes, TTJ(es) were able to hold their FIRST of what they hope will be MANY live podcast recordings with an actual audience...of REAL PEOPLE- not just over a computer screen!
The topic of conversation for the evening was FEMALE FRIENDSHIPS, and it turns out- JessK doesn't consider JessB her friend (what??) and that the audience members had a whole lot to contribute to the conversation.
Same Jess and Jess- lots of laughter and round and round question asking, but a very different vibe with really thoughtful contributions from the audience, as well as hard questions.

This episode is a conversation starter for any woman who has friends, struggled with friends, wants more friends, wants fewer friends, and that's just the beginning!

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The Two Jess(es) get the chance to sit down with UK's #1 True Crime Podcast Host, Sam Walker- and ask her All The Things. Sam hosts the 12-episode series where she interviews KC — a U.S. military veteran turned American Vigilante — as he shares elaborate stories about his time over the last 20 years as a real life vigilante for hire — everything from saving abducted children, rescue missions and more. KC is a hugely complex, intelligent, contradictory man who stands on the blurred line between right and wrong, between revenge and redemption, and Sam lets Jess and Jess in a bit behind the scenes on her over 50 hours of interviews with this man she has never met, and really can't see.

While this episode centers around Sam's podcast, the real theme is pondering the fascination almost EVERY woman has with true crime stories. Is it because it makes us feel safer, watching something terrible happen to someone else? Or is it because it makes us feel smarter?

If you are a woman that is obsessed with true crime, this is an episode you will surely appreciate.

Meet Sam Walker!
Sam Walker is a multi-award winning journalist, broadcaster and podcaster. As a host, Sam appeared across national commercial and BBC Radio in the UK for nearly two decades, working for stations as varied as BBC Radio Manchester, Key 103, where she was the first women to host a daytime show, Real Radio, where she was the first woman to anchor a morning show,  and national news and speech station BBC Radio 5 Live, where she presented for eight years before moving to the USA in 2019. She is currently the host of the award-winning Sam Walker’s Desert Diaries podcast, which also airs weekly on BBC Radio, and the critically acclaimed American Vigilante. Sam set up What Goes On Media in 2007 and has developed and edited over 20 successful podcast series for brands and individuals both in the UK and the USA. She developed and produces the series Coming Out Stories, which is now also a major book, published in 2021 and also hosted four seasons of What Goes On Here, for Audible. She has written for The Guardian newspaper and speaks regularly at conferences and colleges. She lives in Phoenix, Arizona.

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