The Move. Talk. Thrive. Podcast – Details, episodes & analysis

Host: Lizzy Dawson

Guest: Bianca Heaphy, Paediatric Psychologist, Director & Principal Psychologist at Little Insights

In this episode, we’re joined by paediatric psychologist Bianca Heaphy from Little Insights to dive deep into Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), how it presents in children, and why it's often misunderstood. Bianca shares her insights on supporting children with PDA through flexible, personalised approaches and the importance of collaboration between professionals, parents, and schools. 

Whether you're a parent, clinician, or educator, this episode offers practical strategies for navigating the challenges of PDA and helping children thrive.

Key Points:

• Understanding what PDA is and how it presents in children.
• Strategies for managing and reducing demand avoidance.
• The role of nervous system regulation.
• Barriers often seen with PDA
• The importance of a collaborative approach between therapists, parents, and schools.
• Practical tips for helping children with PDA thrive in daily life.

• PDA UK Society: A comprehensive resource for understanding PDA. The site includes practice guidance, strategies, and questionnaires like the Extreme Demand Avoidance Questionnaire. Visit PDA UK Society
• Panda Graphic from PDA UK Society: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/resources/helpful-approaches-infographic/

Connect With Us:

Bianca Heapy

Website: www.littleinsights.com.au Instagram: www.instagram.com/little__insights Facebook: www.facebook.com/littleinsightstherapy

Lizzy Dawson

Website: www.lizzydawson.com.au Instagram:www.instagram.com/lizzydawson_

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www.lizzydawson.com.au

www.emilymackie.com.au

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Hosts: Emily Mackie and Lizzy Dawson

In this episode, we discuss the challenges of waitlists in allied health services, particularly for paediatric patients. We explore how professionals can provide support in the meantime, the importance of early intervention, and offer practical advice and resources for parents. We also dive into emotional connections that drive our passion for helping children.

Key Takeaways:

• Parents often experience roadblocks, but consistency, education, and encouragement are essential.
• Allied health professionals can offer various entry points to services to build trust over time.
• The "wait and see" approach is outdated; instead, we advocate for "support and see" to offer interim help.

Resources Mentioned:

• Busy Books for Language Development: Created by Emily Mackie
• My Creative Box: A collaboration offering craft kits with speech therapy tips. 
• Mindfulness Scripts & Baby Development Courses: Mindfulness Exercises
• Counting the Cost of Late Intervention - The Kids Research Institute of Australia
• Check out Emily Mackie's online programs to support child development and resources
• Check out Lizzy Dawson’s online programs and free resources – pre and post assessment checklists 

Check out our courses and websites:

• https://www.lizzydawson.com.au/
• https://www.emilymackie.com.au/

WHY WAIT AND SEE DOESN’T WORK! What’s the Alternative?

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In this episode, we dive into the topic of constructive conflict and crucial conversations, exploring how to handle confrontation effectively. Liz shares her insights after reading "The Advantage" by Patrick Lencioni, which reshaped her understanding of conflict.

First, we define conflict and dispel the myth that conflict is inherently bad. Conflict is essential in the workplace, fostering growth and improvement. We discuss the spectrum of conflict, from artificial harmony to destructive conflict, highlighting the goal of achieving constructive conflict.

Key elements in handling conflict include character, self-confidence, and trust in those around you. Vulnerability plays a significant role, as does having the right motives—aiming for the best solution for the team and the overarching purpose. It's crucial to receive information from others without fear, avoiding destructive behaviours and not taking offence easily. Remember, nothing is personal, and behaviour often hints at internal struggles both for you and the other person.

In team settings, giving the benefit of the doubt and thinking the best of your colleagues is vital. Conflict requires practice, and mistakes are part of the learning process. Initially, it may look messy, but real-time conflict practice is essential for improvement. Changing your perspective on conversations and removing personal biases can lead to more effective conflict resolution.

Emily shares how her workplace handles conflict, emphasising the importance of synergy, as described in Habit 6 of "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People." This approach goes beyond respectful communication, aiming for win-win outcomes rather than win-lose or lose-win scenarios.

To learn more about conflict, we recommend listening to Patrick Lencioni's podcasts (Em made a whoopsie on the name in the poddy - sorry Pat), which offer valuable insights. Self-discovery is crucial; examine your reactions in conflict situations and maintain a growth mindset. Journaling about your responses and seeking accountability can help you understand and process your reactions.

Liz references her learnings from Chet Holmes book ‘The Ultimate Sales Machine’. Liz references Rockafella Habits accidentally so when she is referring to that she is meaning the principles from Chet’s book linked below. She talks about how discussing pain points in meetings is crucial for all parties in a team. 

Action is necessary—engage in conflict, practice, and repeat. Building new neural pathways and developing a new skill set requires numerous repetitions, but the result is well worth the effort.

BOOK: 7 habits of highly effective people by Stephen Covey

https://rb.gy/sspy9h

BOOK : The Advantage by Patrick Lencioni

https://rb.gy/fushl5

PODCAST : https://www.tablegroup.com/product/the-advantage/

BOOK: The Ultimate Sales machine (Not rockefeller habits) By Chet Holmes 

https://rb.gy/rigjo9

Lizzy’s courses

www.lizzydawson.com.au

Emily’s courses

www.emilymackie.com.au

In this episode, we delve into the importance of effective planning and time management, featuring insights from Liz on quarterly planning. Liz emphasises the need for clear long-term goals, asking yourself where you want to be in five years, one year, and 3 months, and listing the tasks necessary to achieve those goals. We call on exercise goals as an example of commitment to goals, breaking big goals down and creating healthy habits. One common pitfall is the perception of either having too much time or not enough time, which is unproductive. Instead, we should adopt the mindset that we choose how to spend our time: "Time is not my master, I am a master of my time." This approach encourages intentional use of time.

The glorification of being busy often leads to unproductive behaviour, where we end up running around like headless chickens and abdicating responsibility. Liz advocates for a shift in perspective: viewing your schedule as full rather than busy. Effective planning and goal setting are essential at all levels, especially for management and professional advancement.

We discuss practical strategies for planning on a weekly, monthly, and quarterly basis. This forward-thinking approach helps reduce the mental load and prevents the chaos of last-minute decisions. Liz suggests outlining the three most important tasks and tackling the one you least want to do first, as this often has the most significant impact and moves the needle forward. This concept, derived from key performance indicators (KPIs) from the 1980s, implies making a substantial, positive change.

Time blocking is another effective technique, where you allocate specific time slots for different tasks and set deadlines. This helps maintain focus and ensures tasks are completed within a set timeframe. Accountability and self-discipline are crucial for successful time management. Using the carrot-and-stick approach, you can motivate yourself by rewarding accomplishments.

When feeling overwhelmed, writing everything down can help organize your thoughts and priorities. We also discuss the importance of working in a supportive workplace that encourages healthy planning and goal-setting practices, such as 90-day plans and specific projects for speech therapists. Tools like Clockify can assist in tracking time and improving productivity.

We recommend several resources for further learning, including "The One Thing" book, Lorraine Murphy's "Get Remarkably Organised," and "Eat That Frog," which offer valuable tips on prioritisation and productivity.

Clockify App- Time tracking app

https://clockify.me/apps

Clockwork Book 

https://mikemichalowicz.com/clockwork/

The One Thing Book

https://www.amazon.com.au/ONE-Thing-Surprisingly-Extraordinary-Results/dp/1885167776

Get remarkable organised 

https://www.lorrainemurphy.com.au/get-remarkably-organised

Eat That Frog

https://www.amazon.com.au/Eat-That-Frog-Great-Procrastinating/dp/162656941X

Lizzy Dawson courses 

www.lizzydawson.com.au

Emily Mackie courses 

www.emiymackie.com.au

In this episode, we explore the intricate relationship between perfectionism and anxiety, particularly how perfectionism can hold you back, often paralleling imposter syndrome. Liz shares her personal journey through her current stage of growth and the discomfort it brings, including panic attacks following her stroke in 2015. She emphasises the importance of naming and bringing these feelings to light, recognizing that they are not reality but mental health triggers. By separating these thoughts from your identity, you gain power over them.

We discuss the critical question: "What story are you telling yourself?" In a high-achieving team, it's essential to be aware of who surrounds you and to run your own race. Gifted children often exhibit higher levels of anxiety and perfectionism, which is part of the process of self-understanding. Fear of making mistakes can lead to overly complicated tasks and halted progress, often manifesting as procrastination and spending excessive time on tasks.

Perfectionism and imposter syndrome are interconnected. Imposter syndrome can lead to perfectionism-driven tendencies, where individuals feel fraudulent and overthink tasks to the point of paralysis. It's crucial to manage these tendencies by being okay with imperfection and understanding that mastery is messy.

We highlight the impact of perfectionism on parenting, where perfectionist parents may project their anxiety onto their children, blocking their ability to learn. Breaking these generational cycles requires healing and mindful communication. The language we use with children, such as saying "that's perfect" or "great job," can significantly impact their self-perception.

Solutions and Strategies:

• Trust yourself and recall past achievements.
• Balance evidence-based practices with practical execution.
• Be aware of your thoughts and do not let negative thoughts dictate your behavior.
• In moments of doubt, remind yourself of your goals and the impact you wish to achieve.
• Accept that growth challenges may cause you to shrink back, but perseverance is key.
• Keep things simple and avoid overthinking.
• Surround yourself with positive energy and consider an accountability partner.
• Use templates and systems to keep you on track.
• Seek professional help from a counselor or psychologist if needed.
• Implement and execute your plans, even if it means throwing yourself in the deep end to learn and trust yourself.
• Understand that failure is part of learning and development.
• Be mindful of the language you use to praise yourself and others.

To view Lizzy’s courses 

www.lizzydawson.com.au

To view Emily’s resources and courses: 

www.emilymackie.com.au

In this episode, we discuss the importance of understanding the unique dynamics of different businesses and industries when considering career progression and salary negotiations. The first step is to have a conversation with your employer about your career goals and workplace expectations. Reflecting on what you want from your workplace and career progression is crucial. 

Workplace expectations and opportunities can vary significantly. It's essential to identify the expectations, benchmarks, and opportunities within your specific workplace. This includes understanding the difference between billable hours and hours per week, and how many clients you are expected to manage in a typical 38-hour workweek. Additionally, knowing the expectations tied to your wage is vital.

Many people turn to job search engines like Seek or Indeed to compare salaries. However, it's important to remember that these platforms may not align with industry awards and are not policed for accuracy. It's also crucial to understand whether the listed salaries include superannuation or not. High salaries often come with high expectations, as you need to generate sufficient income for the company. It is crucial to assess the value of all components of positions to make an informed decision.

From a financial perspective, companies divide money in specific ways, often using a 3-4 ratio. We encourage you to do your research, including looking at company websites, to understand how responsibilities align with pay packets. Salaries are not independent of job responsibilities, and it’s important to recognize this when evaluating your own compensation.

When asking for a pay rise, resources and PD, consider key factors and common questions. If your job involves driving, for example, that should be factored into your request. Demonstrating your value before asking for a raise is crucial. Business owners are more likely to agree to a pay rise if they can see tangible outcomes from your work. Think about how you can invest in the business and bring more value.

Adopting a mindset where service comes before money can be beneficial. Ensure that your job description and salary are aligned. If you want a pay rise, you need to go above and beyond your current job description. Be proactive and don't wait until the last minute, as businesses operate on budgets. Having a clear goal in mind and being open to negotiation can help you achieve the salary you desire while maintaining a good relationship with your employer.

Don't be afraid to talk about money. Developing a healthy money mindset is essential, and we reference Lorraine Murphy's, Mike Michalowicz Denise Duffield Thomas, Bent not Broke and Mel browne work on this topic. Budgeting resources like those from Mel Browne, the Barefoot Investor, and books like "Crucial Conversations" can be very helpful. If you want to earn more money, educate yourself and evaluate your current money habits. Often, spending habits remain the same regardless of income level.

Profit First and Clockwork

https://mikemichalowicz.com/clockwork/

Melissa Browne

https://www.melissabrowne.com.au/

Bent Not Broke and Gemma Mitchell Finance

www.bentnotbroke.com.au

The Barefoot Investor

https://www.barefootinvestor.com/

Lorraine Murphy 

https://www.lorrainemurphy.com.au/

For Lizzy’s courses

www.lizzydawson.com.au

For Emily’s courses 

www.emilymackie.com.au

Disclaimer: This episode is not medical advice. We are not GPs or doctors; we are sharing our personal experiences and insights.

In this episode, we delve into the importance of boosting the immune system, drawing on personal stories and experiences. Emily shares insights from her journey raising kids and managing their health, while Liz discusses her experiences with burnout and illness recovery while training for an ironman, running business and working with kids as a paediatric exercise physiologist. We emphasise that immune support is crucial not just in winter but throughout the entire year.

We discuss the role of exercise in maintaining health, stressing the need for balance. While exercise is beneficial, high-intensity workouts can stress the body. We explore the differences between aerobic and anaerobic exercises, comparing cardio and weight training, and discuss the importance of knowing when to pause exercising if you're feeling unwell. We also highlight smart exercise choices like pilates or stretching.

Proactive health measures are essential. We underscore the importance of rest and sleep, and discuss dietary tips such as reducing sugar intake and increasing protein to support the immune system. Scheduling "white space" on weekends for relaxation and incorporating monthly remedial massages to counteract long hours at little tables and chairs are also recommended.

Collaborating with your GP for a comprehensive health plan is crucial, especially for managing recurrent infections. We discuss the use of various health interventions, preventions and teams. 

We go into our personal preference in natural remedies and supplements. Liz shares her preventative and illness plan from naturopathy to medical plans, while Emily discusses natural immunity-boosting tablets and probiotics for her family. We highlight the significance of gut health, with Liz's experience with antibiotics and their impact on gut health

We encourage listeners not to accept frequent sickness as normal and to address health issues proactively. Liz shares her experience with low iron levels and distinguishing between physical health issues and mental health symptoms. We emphasise the importance of taking personal responsibility for health management.

References : 

Siddiqui, Z.K., Church, H., Jayasuriya, R. et al. Educational interventions for imposter phenomenon in healthcare: a scoping review. BMC Med Educ 24, 43 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12909-023-04984-w

Emily’s EBook

https://www.emilymackie.com.au/e-book-at-7-one-time-fee-final

Lizzy’s burnout webinar

https://www.lizzydawson.com.au/imposter-no-more-replay

https://www.lizzydawson.com.au/offers/zGbVjM5X/checkout

To check out Lizzy’s courses: 

www.lizzydawson.com.au

To check out Emily’s courses:

www.emilymackie.com.au

In this episode, Liz hosts Em as an industry expert for Liz’s for an insightful interview specifically designed for her  The Paediatric Practitioner - Knowledge Corner course members. 

They dive into essential topics related to working with children who have language differences. Em begins by explaining how to identify if a child has language differences and shares practical methods for informally screening the children they work with. The discussion emphasises the importance of determining whether a child needs a referral, which is a critical step in providing appropriate support.

Em also highlights the significance of using neuro-affirming language, which respects and acknowledges the unique neurodiversity of each child. This approach helps create a supportive and inclusive environment. To assist practitioners, Em introduces simple receptive and expressive language screeners that can be easily implemented in various settings.

Moreover, Em offers valuable strategies for integrating language into sessions in a way that is both effective and engaging for children. She discusses how to scale back language complexity to accommodate children with language differences, ensuring that communication is accessible and clear. Em stresses the importance of making instructions simple for kids with compromised language skills, providing practical examples and tips to enhance understanding and participation.

Throughout the episode, Liz and Em provide actionable insights and tools that practitioners can apply immediately to better support children with language differences, ensuring they receive the attention and resources they need to thrive.

This episode is full of gold nuggets that all health professionals that are working with children can call on. This will help health professionals not only determine if a child may need a referral but better support and collaboratively work on holistic goals for children. 

This bonus episode has been released to celebrate the doors opening to Liz’s The Paediatric Practitioner - The Knowledge Corner and Em’s Preschool Language Academy. 

For more information on our courses head to 

https://www.lizzydawson.com.au/

https://www.emilymackie.com.au/ 

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This is a bonus episode between Lizzy and Emily from the PLA Library. We are in between Season One and Season Two and wanted to continue to provide you with goodness and learnings.

Some key concepts during the conversation:

🔑 Importance of incorporating movement and physical activity, body awareness, stretching, and core exercises into therapy sessions.

🔑 Impact of language on health and the importance of setting up healthy habits.

🔑 The need to raise awareness about the role of EPs (Exercise Physiologists) and their collaboration with other allied health practitioners/professionals specifically in the paediatric sector.

🔑 The difference between OTs (Occupational Therapists) and physiotherapists (physios) in terms of diagnosis and frequency of visits.

🔑 Discussion of the challenges of engaging children and managing behaviour in therapy sessions.

Lizzy recommends to check the Exercise and Sports Science Australia (ESSA) website for a list of EPs in the region.

She provides free resources and information on her website. She offers an exercise database which includes 30 different exercises along with dialogue examples, paediatric prescription formulas, and developmental opportunities for each exercise.

Lizzy has two clinics where she provides exercise therapy and support. She has previously been a guest expert and has shared valuable insights and practical strategies for speech sessions. She also does a free master class or webinar a couple of times a year. Lizzy is passionate about collaborating with other allied health professionals and believes in taking a holistic approach to therapy. She finds it rewarding to see the positive impact of her work on children’s lives.

In this episode, we tackle the critical issue of burnout, drawing insights from Liz's personal experience with burnout, suffering a stroke at 33 and what she shares in her burnout presentations on the subject.

Burnout is not just exhaustion; it's an occupational phenomenon characterised by chronic workplace stress that remains unmanaged. This stress can manifest as decreased energy, increased mental distance from one's job, and feelings of ineffectiveness due to an overwhelming workload or too many responsibilities.

The conversation delves into the difference between empathy and compassion, emphasising that while empathy is about feeling with someone, compassion involves taking actionable steps to help. Staying in a constant state of empathy without transitioning to compassion can be dangerous, leading to what is known as compassion fatigue. This involves taking on the emotional and psychological burdens of patients, which can be particularly taxing for healthcare professionals who are naturally empathetic.

We explore the slippery slope of burnout, discussing the challenges faced by both employees and contractors in maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Bonuses and incentives can inadvertently contribute to burnout by encouraging workers to take on more responsibilities without adequate support or boundaries.

The episode also touches upon the paradoxical nature of being a healthcare professional. What makes someone good at their job – empathy, compassion, problem-solving skills – can also be their undoing if they overcompensate for these strengths. Liz shares her personal journey of how her empathetic nature, which initially drove her to become a health professional, eventually led to additional emotional burdens after her stroke. We discuss practical strategies for preventing burnout and maintaining boundaries, such as not taking work home, setting aside decompression time between work and home, and being realistic about what you can manage. Communication is key, especially for certain working structures like having your own business or working as an independent outside employee arrangements where clinicians may feel obligated to be available 24/7. Taking personal accountability and seeking psychological support when needed are also crucial steps in preventing burnout.

This episode serves as a reminder that while hard work and empathy are admirable qualities, they must be balanced with boundaries and self-care to avoid burnout. Being aware, educated, emotionally intelligent, and proactive in maintaining balance are essential for both personal well-being and effective client care. If you feel yourself tipping towards burnout, it's crucial to pull back immediately and refocus on what gives you balance and fulfilment. Join us as we delve into the complexities of burnout and explore ways to foster a healthier, more sustainable approach to work and life.

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