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In this episode, Dr. Carrie Jones and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton delve into the complexities of hormonal health, focusing on the DUTCH Test and its comprehensive approach to understanding hormones. 

This conversation also covers:

• The importance of clarity in hormone testing
• The DUTCH Test’s new interpretive framework called the DUTCH Dozen 
• How chronic stress can impact metabolic health and the often-misunderstood nature of cortisol
• The significance of the cortisol awakening response and the DUTCH Test’s assessments for understanding hormonal health
• The importance of lifestyle changes in managing stress and hormonal balance

Show Notes

Check out the 5a-androstanediol research mentioned in this episode.

Learn more about the simplified DUTCH Test, the enhancements to the DUTCH Report, and the DUTCH Dozen. And check out our new library of video collection instructions!

Learn more about Dr. Carrie Jones and follow her on Instagram @dr.carriejones!

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In this episode, Dr. Lucas Tims shares his journey into naturopathic oncology, focusing on prostate cancer. He discusses the increasing incidence of prostate cancer, the hormonal influences on the disease, and the importance of hormone testing. 

Dr. Tims and Dr. Smeaton also discuss:

• The complexity of cancer drivers, particularly mitochondrial dysfunction 
• Integrative approaches to oncology, highlighting the need for a balance between conventional and naturopathic treatments
• The role of cortisol and stress management in cancer progression
• The significance of nutrition, movement, and lifestyle changes in cancer care
• How combining conventional and naturopathic treatments can lead to more optimal patient outcomes

Show Notes:

Learn more about Dr. Lucas Tims and his practice, Root Causes Medical Clinic. Follow him on Instagram @doctorlucas!

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In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Jaclyn speaks with Ronit and Vida, the founders of WeNatal, about their personal journeys through pregnancy loss and the creation of their company aimed at improving fertility outcomes for couples. 

They also discuss: 

• The importance of partnership in the fertility journey
• How the role of male fertility is often overlooked
• The need for a cultural shift in how we approach preconception health 
• The emotional impact of miscarriage
• Nutrition and supplements in relation to fertility

Show Notes

Check out WeNatal’s Fertility Guide and Fertility Master Class. Follow them on Instagram @we_natal!

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Sometimes a traditional diurnal cortisol test isn’t enough to properly evaluate a patient. With the DUTCH Plus, the cortisol awakening response (CAR) gives additional insight into your patient’s stress response. A “mini stress test” the CAR takes snapshots in the minutes and hours after waking to paint a clearer picture of HPA axis function.

 In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Drs. Jaclyn Smeaton and Christina O’Brien discuss the value of the CAR in finding hidden points of dysregulation in patients. They cover typical cortisol testing procedure and dive into the benefits of measuring the CAR to enhance patient care.

 Sections and Timestamps

•  00:00   Intro
• 01:57   What’s the typical cortisol test?
• 03:10   Why saliva for measuring the CAR?
• 07:15   The CAR can identify dysfunction missed by typical diurnal curve
• 10:00   Typical patterns of dysfunction on a CAR report
• 13:05   When should providers order the DUTCH Plus vs the DUTCH Complete
• 16:25   Conclusion

Additional Resources

 DUTCH Complete

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-complete/

 DUTCH Plus

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/

 Cortisol Awakening Response (CAR)

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/#cortisol-awakening-response

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Last week Dr. Smeaton and Dr. Pizzorno covered the science behind environmental toxins and how they affect our hormones. This week, they discuss how to avoid these toxins through lifestyle adjustments, treatment, and other methods.  

Environmental toxin avoidance recommendations from Dr. Pizzorno

• Avoidance, avoidance, avoidance 
• Eat organic 
• Heirloom seeds for growing your own food 
• Whole-house water filtration 
• Whole-house air filtration 
• Sauna weekly to sweat out toxins 
• Increase fiber intake 
• More avoidance! 

Listen now to hear the details of these recommendations and catch last week’s episode with Dr. Pizzorno wherever you get your podcasts. 

Sections and Timestamps 

• 00:00Intro 
• 01:28Everyone has measurable exposure to BPA 
• 04:12You CAN reduce your toxic load through lifestyle adjustments 
• 06:16Supplements can only supplement a fantastic diet 
• 09:00Persistent vs non-persistent compounds 
• 10:18Water, air, and food 
• 13:44Unimportant molecules and heirloom seeds 
• 18:17Plant-based foods and animal products 
• 21:00Sweating toxins out 
• 23:10Increasing fiber intake to detoxify 
• 27:30 Conclusion

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The natural medicine community has long benefited from the leadership of this week’s guest. Dr. Joseph Pizzorno has been practicing natural medicine for more than 40 years. He is an author, educator, and top-notch provider, and his bread and butter is studying environmental toxins. 

In this episode, Dr. Pizzorno and Dr. Smeaton discuss perchlorates and bisphenols, two prevalent environmental toxins that affect thyroid function. They also talk about the sneaky ways these toxins can show up in everyday life. 

This is part one of a two-part interview with Dr. Pizzorno. Stay tuned for more from him and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton next week to hear about other toxins in our environment and how to avoid them. 

Timestamps and Sections 

• 00:00Intro 
• 02:15What sparked Dr. Pizzorno’s interest in environmental toxicology 
• 07:56How does the impact of environmental toxins compare to diet in the diabetes epidemic? 
• 09:30High toxic load increases risk of diabetes 
• 11:20Herbicides are a culprit 
• 14:28Perchlorate levels are inversely proportionate to thyroid hormone levels 
• 18:18First research on bisphenols 
• 25:00How to avoid BPAs 
• 26:30Conclusion

Tips for avoiding BPAs 

• Don’t freeze or heat food in plastic containers 
• BPA free canned food 
• Avoid heat sensitive paper (receipt paper) 
• Avoid disposable coffee cups 

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Fasting and female hormones, this podcast has it all. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, interviews world-renowned hormone expert, Dr. Mindy Pelz, on the topic of intermittent fasting. Dr. Pelz dives into the unique role that fasting can play in hormone health, and shares tips on fasting for perimenopause. 

Women need to fast differently than men. Dr. Pelz explains the cycle of fasting that correlates with a woman’s menstrual cycle for optimal fasting and hormone success. Women can experience better sleep, and fewer perimenopausal symptoms when fasting appropriately. Don’t sleep on this episode, there is so much to learn! 

Sections and Time Stamps 

• 00:00 - Intro 
• 02:51 - How Mindy Pelz got into fasting 
• 04:58 - What are the benefits of intermittent fasting for women? 
• 08:20 - What does fasting do to estrogen? 
• 14:30 - How do women need to do fasting differently than men? 
• 20:20 - The goal is metabolic flexibility 
• 22:05 - Fasting recommendations for perimenopause 
• 25:20 - “Fast Like a Girl” book  
• 26:28 - Conclusion

Fast Like a Girl
https://fastlikeagirl.com/ 

Mindy Pelz’s Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@DrMindyPelz 

Mindy Pelz’s Website
https://drmindypelz.com/ 

DUTCH Test 
https://dutchtest.com/ 

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Ten years after its inception, DUTCH Test founders Mark Newman and Andy Tyssen are here for our final live from A4M World Congress episode of the DUTCH Podcast. They reminisce on the origins of the DUTCH Test, the beginnings of their business, and the strides the business has made since the beginning. 

In this episode, we get to visit with some of the first DUTCH Test providers— Jeff and Lyn Holgrefe of the Happy Hormone Cottage. They talk about their introduction to DUTCH testing 10 years ago and how DUTCH has helped their patients find answers. Jeff and Lyn have shipped more than 10,000 DUTCH kits to their patients, thank you Happy Hormone Cottage! 

Precision Analytical Core Values 

https://dutchtest.com/about/ 

• We care for our people. We will ALL actively prioritize taking care of our team, clients, and community. 
• We will be transparent. We believe honest humility should characterize internal communication and how we represent our product. 
• Always advancing. Our work is never done! We are committed to continual improvement in everything we do. 

Happy Hormone Cottage 

https://happyhormonecottage.com/ 

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The Live from A4M World Congress podcast series continues with featured guest, Dr. Carrie Jones. You might recognize her from her time at Precision Analytical as the former Medical Director. In this episode, Dr. Jones shares how DUTCH and the functional medicine world have evolved to better understand the importance of hormone testing to identify and treat adrenal dysfunction. She discusses the beginnings of the DUTCH Test, and she, Jaclyn Smeaton, and Mark Newman talk about the importance of research to further evolve hormone testing.

00:00     Intro

03:55     Learning the importance of estrogen metabolism

07:35     The Stages of Stress (SOS) program

12:12     Introducing DUTCH Trust

18:29     Precision Analytical’s commitment to top-notch testing

25:00     DUTCH supports its testing in scientific literature

28:50     Conclusion

Dr. Carrie Jones 

http://www.drcarriejones.com/

LMRC Stages of Stress Program

https://www.lifestylematrix.com/clinical-programs#stress

DUTCH Research

https://dutchtest.com/research/

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In a special edition of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, joins Precision Analytical founder Mark Newman, MS, and Jeff Bland, PhD—the “father of functional medicine”—for a live Q&A session. They discuss the beginnings of the functional medicine industry and reflect on the various directions the field is taking.  

Dr. Bland and Dr. Smeaton uncover some of the barriers to a functional medicine approach. Functional medicine isn’t the same as traditional disease-state treatment. Dr. Bland suggests ways to approach these barriers with providers that don’t already practice functional medicine. 

• Philosophical barriers 
• Lack-of-proof barriers 
• Economic barriers 

Tune in to take part in this informative discussion. The Q&A session brings up important topics like the effects of COVID-19 vaccine/infection on cycling women; as well as accurately interpreting saliva hormone results for patients on hormone creams/gels. 

Plus, hear the announcement for the grand prize winner for the 10 Days of DUTCH giveaway!  

Sections and Timestamps 

• 00:00 -Intro 
• 02:07- 10 Days of DUTCH Giveaway winner announced 
• 04:10- Dr. Bland discusses the changes in functional medicine 
• 08:30- Functional medicine treats the patients that traditional medicine ignores 
• 11:45- Dr. Bland shares story from early in his career 
• 12:30- Barriers to working with patients/providers that are new to the functional medicine model 
• 16:52- Q&A Begins 
• 18:41- Is there any effect on menstrual cycles for female patients post Covid-19 vaccination? 
• 23:28- Are exaggerated testosterone levels in saliva after hormone creams/gels indicative of systemic availability? 
• 29:30- What is the value of looking at hormone metabolites? 
• 33:15- Conclusion 

Links 

Dr. Jeff Bland’s website
https://jeffreybland.com/ 

PLMI
https://plminstitute.org/ 

COVID-19 Research Referenced
https://bmjmedicine.bmj.com/content/bmjmed/1/1/e000297.full.pdf 

Become a DUTCH Provider
https://dutchtest.com/become-a-provider

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