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Email Follow-up Coach Ely Delaney on Nurturing Your List Without Treating People Like an ATM
Sunday, March 1, 2026 • Duration 45:46
This episode is a deep dive on follow up as a coaching skill, not a tech trick.Ely breaks down why most coaches lose sales after the first conversation, and how email keeps relationships warm until people are actually ready.You also get a simple “bring them back” email you can send this week, plus the mindset shift that makes follow up feel human instead of salesy.Connect with Ely Delaney→Website: elydelaney.com→LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elydelaney/
→ https://connectwithely.com/→Podcast: Meet Cool PeopleWhat this episode is about→Why email is still the most underused relationship tool in coaching→How to turn “not ready yet” leads into future clients with simple follow up→Ely’s “bring them back” approach, and why most people misjudge what “success” meansWho this helps→Coaches, speakers, and authors who meet lots of people but struggle to follow up→Service providers who want better sales conversations without chasing or spammingKey takeaways→The goal of email is relationship, not “send more newsletters.”→A good campaign creates replies, conversations, and calendar asks.→If replies are up and sales are flat, the breakdown is usually the sales conversation.→Track the journey step by step, then fix the exact step that is leaking.→Open rates are a signal, they tell you if trust and relevance are improving.→Evergreen systems win because they keep showing up without burning you out.→Add value, stay top of mind, and avoid treating people like ATMs.→Speaking works because it builds trust fast, then email keeps it alive.→Most “follow up” fails because it feels self serving.→The money is not in the list, it’s in the relationship with the list.Quotables→“My job is to keep ’em in the castle.”→“Keep ’em away from the village idiot.”→“The money is not in the list. The money is in your relationship with the list.”→“What can I help you with?”Practical tools and frameworks→The “I’m such a slacker” reactivation email→Subject: I’m such a slacker→Body: quick apology for dropping the ball, ask “What’s new and exciting in your world?”→No pitch, no graphics, make it feel like a plain email→Diagnose the funnel by steps, not vibes, find the exact drop off point→Use reply driven emails to restart conversations, then make an offer on calls→Build an evergreen nurture sequence so follow up keeps running even when you are busyBooks mentioned→Me, Inc. by Gene Simmons→On Power by Gene SimmonsHosted by Jordan Ring→I’m Jordan, ghostwriter, book coach, and developmental editor.→Let’s turn your coaching insights into a book that builds trust and grows your business.→Connect with me at jmring.com
Team Development Coach Nadine Lavigne on the Human Skills Leaders Can't Afford to Miss
Sunday, March 1, 2026 • Duration 41:05
Connect with Nadine Lavigne→LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadinelavigne/→Website: Linked in her LinkedIn profileWhat this episode is about→Why most leaders think people are “fine,” while teams feel overloaded and unclear→How curiosity and deep listening create real breakthroughs in coaching and leadership→What companies miss after rapid growth or acquisitions, and why retention needs a planWho this helps→Leaders and HR partners in fast growing companies who need clarity, goals, and accountability→Coaches and consultants who want better questions, better listening, and better outcomesKey takeaways→Most people listen to respond, not to understand.→If leaders do the human stuff well, it spreads through the organization.→Clarity is a retention tool, not a nice to have.→Goal setting and accountability systems solve more than people think.→Workshops can start change, but 1 session rarely finishes it.→Curiosity is a muscle, and it gets stronger with reps.→Ask how someone wants you to show up before you jump into advice.→Gratitude shifts leadership from command and control to human and steady.→Self advocacy matters, especially when you actually have the credibility.→Genuine connection beats cold outreach, especially in a trust heavy market.Quotables→“People don’t listen to listen, they listen to respond.”→“Do you want me to help you, hear you, or handle it?”→“It’s a process.”Practical tools and frameworks→Triple H opener: “Do you want me to help, hear, or handle?”→Curiosity reps: keep 3 to 5 go to questions you can ask in any conversation.→Deep listening prompt: “What are they saying beneath the surface?”→Clarity reset: “What are the top 3 priorities this quarter, and what gets deprioritized?”→Accountability structure: goals, owners, check ins, and follow through.Books mentioned→The Trumpet of the Swan by E.B. White→Nadine’s favorite children’s book about a mother and son, title not recalled in the episodeHosted by Jordan Ring→I’m Jordan, ghostwriter, book coach, and developmental editor.→Let’s turn your coaching insights into a book that builds trust and grows your business.→Connect with me at jmring.com
The Coachability Code Podcast — Hank Wethington on Feedback, Trust, and Measuring Coaching ROI
Monday, November 17, 2025 • Duration 48:03
Connect with Hank Wethington → LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/hankwethington → Website: hankwethington.com
In this episode, executive coach and founder of Wethington Leadership, Hank Wethington, shares how real leadership growth happens through trust-based feedback, measurable coaching outcomes, and human connection.
We talk about what makes feedback land, why trust is the foundation for every coaching relationship, and how leaders can prove the ROI of coaching to their organizations without losing the heart of the work.
What this episode is about → Building trust before giving feedback → Why the “feedback sandwich” never works → How to measure coaching ROI without losing humanity → Coaching vs consulting vs feedback → Turning discomfort into growth → Showing value to HR, L&D, and the CFO → The fine line between personal and professional coaching conversations → What makes a truly “coachable” client → The role of play, humor, and curiosity in leadership → Finding your own leadership voice
Who this helps → Coaches working with corporate or executive clients → HR and L&D leaders who manage coaching programs → Leaders learning how to give feedback that builds trust
Key takeaways → Trust first, feedback second. → No one ever chooses the feedback sandwich. → Curiosity builds buy-in faster than confrontation. → Great coaching measures impact without reducing people to numbers. → Leaders who coach well ask before they advise. → Coaching ROI is about outcomes that the business can see and the client can feel. → Your “worst” clients are often mirrors showing where you can grow too. → Bring the life stuff into coaching, it always affects work. → You cannot coach without relationship. → Great leadership starts with finding your unique voice, not copying others.
Quotables → “No one ever orders the feedback sandwich.”→ “Trust is the foundation of feedback.”→ “Coaching isn’t a feel-good item, it’s measurable impact.”→ “We’re one person, not a work self and a life self.”→ “You can’t be someone else and still lead with integrity.”
Intuitive Coaching Meets Personal Branding with Stacey Gonzales
Dr. Stacey Gonzales is an intuitive transformational coach and personal branding strategist who blends deep inner work with clear marketing strategy.
In this episode, we explore how intuition meets business, why clarity is everything, and what it means to build a brand from the inside out.
Stacey shares stories from her own growth journey, lessons from her marathon mindset, and how she helps clients regulate their nervous systems so they can step confidently into who they’re becoming.
What this episode is about → The intersection of intuition, branding, and coaching → How to build a personal brand rooted in your essence → What clarity really means and why it unlocks everything → Nervous system regulation as a growth strategy → The art of seeing clients deeply and helping them see themselves → Why discomfort means you’re growing → Imposter syndrome and how even high achievers face it → The importance of setting boundaries with misaligned clients → Why charging your worth is an act of service → How presence and honesty transform your work and life
Who this helps → Coaches and consultants ready to refine their brand and message → Creatives and leaders learning to trust intuition in business → Anyone building a coaching practice rooted in authenticity
Key takeaways → You can’t read the label on your own jar. Coaches help you see what you can’t. → Clarity is power. Without it, you spin in circles. → Nervous system regulation is the foundation for creativity. → Imposter syndrome doesn’t disappear—it’s managed with awareness. → Charge your worth. Investment drives transformation.→ Misalignment feels off in your body first—trust that signal.→ Let emotion move through you. It’s data, not weakness.→ Growth should feel uncomfortable. That’s how you know it’s working.→ Building your own business is harder than running a marathon.→ Presence is the real prize. Say what needs to be said while you can.
Financial Behavior Coach (Money Coach) DonJay Rice on Financial Behavior, Coachable Change, and Hope
Sunday, November 2, 2025 • Duration 36:26
Connect with DonJay Rice→ Website: https://www.drumbeatofwealth.com/→ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donjay-rice-fbs%C2%AE-36950a297/What this episode is about→ What “financial behavior coaching” really means, and how grief and trauma shape money decisions.→ The “broken record” pattern, how it keeps repeating, and how to scratch a new groove.→ Curiosity, shame work, and small wins that compound into lasting change.Who this helps→ Individuals and couples stuck in repeating money patterns, anxiety, or avoidance.→ Coaches who want practical ways to guide clients through money emotions and behavior change.Key takeaways→ “Financial behavior coach” means rewiring habits, not just building a budget.→ The broken record shows up as repeat credit card cycles, penny pinching, or enabling kids.→ Curiosity is fuel. You cannot fix what you will not examine.→ Shame loses power when it is named, not hidden.→ Coachability looks like facing the unknown and staying open when it gets uncomfortable.→ Relentlessness matters. Momentum comes from honest work between sessions.→ Start with emotions, then skills. Calm the nervous system, then pick tools.→ Progress counts, even if you are not ready for every hard step yet.→ Community helps. LinkedIn, podcasts, and real relationships open doors and support.→ Failures are not final. Learn the lesson, give grace, and move forward.Quotables→ “I help you fix your broken record.”→ “You cannot work on what you cannot see.”→ “If you have a pulse, you have shame.”→ “Failures are not final. They are feedback.”→ “Books and budgets are tools, behavior is the engine.”Practical tools and frameworks→ Discovery journaling, map the repeating money moment and the trigger behind it.→ Motivational Interviewing, ask, reflect, and let the client choose the next step.→ 6 Stages of Change, meet people where they are, not where you wish they were.→ Enneagram awareness, notice default stress patterns around money conversations.→ Grace practice, 1 sentence of self-compassion any time you slip.Books mentioned→ Wooden by John Wooden.→ Grace Is Greater by Kyle Idleman.→ Genius of Generosity by Chip Ingram.→ Money Mammoth by Brad Klontz, Edward Horwitz, and Ted Klontz.Hosted by Jordan Ring→ I’m Jordan, ghostwriter, book coach, and developmental editor.→ Let’s turn your ideas into a book that moves people and drives results.→ Connect with me at https://jmring.com/
Finding Your Story [Tips from a Book Coach] w/ Jonathan Jordan
Jonathan Jordan is a professional writer, ghostwriter, and book coach who helps authors bring their ideas to life.
In this episode, we talk about how to find your story, lead with empathy, and keep your focus on the reader.
Jonathan shares how his background in social work shaped his coaching approach, why “books are for readers, not authors,” and how to handle competing feedback without losing your voice.
We also explore what it means to be truly coachable, how to scale your message after you niche down, and why publishing your book is actually the start of something much greater.
If you’re a coach, creative, or aspiring author, this conversation will help you rethink how you tell your story and who you’re really writing it for.
What this episode is about →How empathy and humility create better coaching relationships →What it means to be truly coachable as a writer →The “niche up” concept for expanding your message →Balancing creativity, feedback, and collaboration →Handling difficult clients and protecting creative integrity →Why books are for readers, not authors →Turning tough feedback into growth →Networking that actually builds your business →Why publishing is only the start line →How to lead with value and long-term trust
Who this helps →Book coaches, editors, and ghostwriters →Authors learning to navigate feedback and revision →Coaches who want to bring more empathy into their work
Key takeaways →Empathy always wins over ego.→Books are written for readers, not authors.→Feedback is not a threat, it’s a mirror.→Trust the process and play the long game.→Publishing a book is the beginning, not the end.→Niche down to specialize, then niche up to scale.→Networking isn’t selling, it’s connecting.→Humility creates collaboration and better ideas.→Your most coachable clients are your most successful ones.→Clarity beats cleverness every time.
What it (Really) Means to Coach from the Heart | A Coaching Conversation with Renée DeVore
Sunday, October 19, 2025 • Duration 44:04
Connect with Renée DeVore→LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachrene...→Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulgrowtha...→Substack: https://soulgrowthsanctuary.substack....Renée DeVore helps women build a love that lasts through self-leadership and truth. In this episode, we explore what real coaching for women looks like when it’s focused on healing from within. Renée shares how self-leadership transforms relationships, how to stop people-pleasing, and what it takes to create love that starts with yourself. She also opens up about the realities of coaching inside organizations, protecting confidentiality, and giving feedback that helps people grow without losing connection.If you’re ready to build healthier boundaries, rediscover your truth, and lead yourself before leading anyone else, this conversation is your invitation to begin.What this episode is about→How self-leadership and truth create lasting love and freedom→Why so many women feel stuck and how to break that cycle→Letting go of people-pleasing and learning to set real boundaries→Balancing heart and head in leadership and life→What happens when you coach inside a company and how to protect trust→Why sharing your story can attract the right clients naturallyWho this helps→Women ready to grow, heal, and lead from self-love→Coaches and leaders learning to balance empathy with clarityKey takeaways→Everything starts with you. Lead yourself first.→Stuck often means you’ve ignored your own truth.→Boundaries protect love. People-pleasing drains it.→Being direct in feedback builds trust faster than avoiding it.→Leadership is personal development in disguise.→Sharing your story invites connection and healing.→Coaching inside companies requires clarity on confidentiality.→Your ideal clients find you when you show up authentically.Quotables→“I help women build a love that lasts.”→“Everything starts with us.”→“Preface the conversation; Can I give you some tough feedback?”→“We are creating an opportunity to heal humanity.”→“There’s always certainty beyond logic.”Practical tools and frameworks→Five-word introduction: say what you do in five words to spark real conversation→Use feedback prompts that give people choice: “Can I give you feedback?”→Clarify who you serve and the problem they bring (“I feel stuck”)→Reflect mid-coaching: ask clients how the process feels and adjustHosted by Jordan Ring→Subscribe for more conversations on coachability, leadership, and growth.If this episode inspired you, share it with someone who needs a reminder that change starts from within.
Coachability, Confidence, and Playing the Long Game in Growth with Sales Coach Taylor Martino
In this episode, Taylor Martino shares what it really takes to lead, sell, and coach in the modern sales world. From her roots as a competitive athlete to her experience in B2B SaaS leadership, Taylor has much to teach us about the power of genuine human connection.
She and Jordan talk about what makes someone truly coachable, how to give feedback with empathy and accountability, and why investing in your own coaching is the best way to grow your business and leadership skills.
What this episode is about →How sales leaders and founders can build, sell, and scale with a repeatable system →Coachability in the real world and why willingness to try beats perfection →Leading with empathy while holding strong accountability →Winning on LinkedIn without pitch slaps or backdoor selling
Who this helps →New and rising sales leaders who need consistency beyond one knockout quarter →Founders and solo coaches who must sell while leading a team →Managers who want to coach better than a quota spreadsheet
Key takeaways →Managers manage. Coaches coach. You may need both, and they are not the same. →Coachability is the willingness to try, apply feedback, and come back for iteration. →Confidence and clarity are pillars for leaders. Know who you are, what you expect, and what “good” looks like. →Set expectations up front. Clients get out what they put in, including time between sessions. →Be direct with the problem and compassionate with the person when giving feedback. →LinkedIn works when you play the long game: conversations, not pitch slaps. →You do not have to love rejection. Learn how to overcome it and keep moving. →Investing in yourself models what you are asking your team and clients to do.
Quotables→“If you’re not investing in yourself, how can you expect other people to invest in you?”→“You get out of it what you put into it.”→“Support and inspire people, but hold them accountable too.”→“It’s not my job to tell you you’re wrong. My job is to help you find a better option.”→“Don’t ask me about my service just to sell me yours. That’s not how you build trust.”
Client-Centered Coaching, Asking Good Questions, and Being Fit Over 40 with Coach Matt Fried
Sunday, October 12, 2025 • Duration 46:35
Matt Fried, aka Coach Matt, is a health, nutrition, and fitness coach who helps men and women in their 40s get fit and keep the weight off.
On this episode of The Coachability Code Podcast, Jordan and Matt dig into client-centered coaching, sustainable change, and how to build confidence that lasts long after the program ends.
Founder of Anchor Coaching, Jacob helps Christian entrepreneurs make faster, better decisions and execute without burning out. Think clarity of vision, ruthless prioritization, and steady follow-through.
Quick icebreakers
→Favorite books: The Lord of the Rings trilogy; runner-up: Mistborn: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson
→Favorite movie: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
→One weird thing: Dressed as Moses to lead college game-day cheers in a student section called “The Red Sea.” Event security once tackled him mid-Moses.
Topics discussed on the show:
→Trust before tactics: Clients open up about fear, confusion, and resistance only when there is real trust. That honesty reveals the real blocker and the right next step.
→Vision before velocity: The hardest clients are not lazy. They are unclear. No clear where means no consistent how. Jacob helps them narrow options and commit.
→Isolation, overwhelm, burnout: Founders make constant decisions and carry the load alone. Jacob builds sustainable rhythms so productivity lasts beyond a short sprint.
Wins and sticking points
→Best student vibe: As soon as priorities are clear, they execute. Clarity plus bias to action equals rapid compounding progress.
Practical tools and frameworks → Ask clients how they prefer feedback before giving it → Use one clear improvement point instead of ten small ones → Track coaching ROI through engagement objectives and business outcomes → Pair curiosity with data to show tangible value → Use “consulting hat off” language to keep trust clear
Books mentioned → The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier → How to Tell a Story by The Moth → The Monk and Robot Series by Becky Chambers → The Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy Gallwey
Hosted by Jordan Ring → I’m Jordan, ghostwriter, book coach, and developmental editor. → Let’s turn your coaching insights into a book that builds trust and grows your business. → Connect with me at jmring.com
Quotables → “It’s hard to read the label on your own jar.” → “My body tells me before my mind catches up.” → “The precious present is the best gift we can give ourselves.” → “Growth should feel uncomfortable.” → “If I can’t get there with you, we won’t get the results you want.” → “Charge your worth. It accelerates the inner work.” → “Say the thing. Don’t leave it unsaid.”
Practical tools and frameworks → Use a pre-engagement questionnaire to gauge client readiness → Listen to your body for cues about fit and alignment → Pair coaching with somatic and journaling practices for deeper integration → Redefine your brand often—it evolves with you → Lead with empathy, not performance
Books and movies mentioned → Inside Out (Pixar) → The Precious Present by Spencer Johnson → The Power of Unwavering Focus by Dandapani
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Quotables →“Books are for readers, not authors.” →“Sometimes the challenge is named Jonathan Jordan.” →“Publishing isn’t the finish line, it’s the start line.” →“You don’t need to sound smart to help someone.” →“The best idea wins.” →“Empathy has to lead before expertise.”
Practical tools and frameworks →Use “niche up” to grow beyond your target reader →Ask early who else is giving feedback on a project →Apply the “coffee shop test” to check your tone →Prime clients by saying, “Tell me what’s not working” →Treat publishing as the start of marketing, not the end
Hosted by Jordan Ring →https://jmring.com
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Practical tools and frameworks →Three-month program structure: a clear, standard playbook for skills plus individualized 1:1 coaching to solve live problems →Clarity work: define expectations upward, for your team, and for yourself as a leader →Feedback approach: ask, explore options, align on the next experiment, then iterate →LinkedIn rhythm: start genuine conversations, use voice notes, be helpful, expect referrals later
Hosted by Jordan Ring →https://jmring.com
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→Progress is usually squiggly line, not a straight drop. Expect fluctuations, not failure.
→Words matter. Replace "I was bad" with "I made choices that didn’t serve my goal."
→Feedback is fuel. There is no failure, only feedback.
→Build trust through empathy and silence. Listen more than you talk.
→Confidence is the true graduation. Clients who can decide what works on their own have won.
→Long-term success comes from small, sustainable actions, not quick fixes.
→Being fit over 40 is absolutely possible with consistency and patience.
Quotables
→"Good coaches ask good questions. The answers are already inside you."
→"Be direct with the problem, soft with the person."
→"There is no failure, only feedback."
→"Slow the step down until it’s a 9 or 10 on Ready, Willing, Able."
→"Most people don’t need more information, they need better support."
→"Confidence is built by doing small things well, over and over."
Practical tools and frameworks
→Client-centered intake: start with "Why are we on this call right now?"
→Ready, Willing, and Able: 1–10 scale to size habits properly
→The "weight window" mindset for long-term consistency
→Reframing language from shame to curiosity
→Creating a safe, judgment-free container for feedback
Books mentioned
→The Icarus Deception by Seth Godin
→The Three-Body Problem Trilogy by Cixin Liu
→Nonviolent Communication by Wayland Myers
Hosted by Jordan Ring
→Ghostwriter, Book Coach, Author, and Host of The Coachability Code Podcast
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→Where people get stuck: Action items stall when the goal is fuzzy, fear is unspoken, or the step was the coach’s idea. The fix is co-created steps, a smaller first move, or revisiting the vision.
Practical takeaways you can use this week
→Co-create next actions. Ask, “What feels like the single next step you choose to take?” Let them say it, size it, and schedule it.
→Run a vision check. If progress is stalling, revisit the outcome. Ask, “What would make this direction a clear yes or a no?”
→Decide by subtraction. In confusion, eliminate two options this week. Fewer choices create momentum.
→Install a feedback loop. Use start, stop, continue with your client or team after key actions.
→Right-size the schedule. Build a realistic week that protects deep work and family time.
→Accountability cadence. Confirm who, what, when, how you will know it is done.
→Breath and reset. Jacob’s micro-ritual for overwhelm: slow down, breathe, talk to God.
→Adopt his mantra: be slow to hurry, be quick to execute. Set direction with care, then move.
Building a coaching business, Jacob’s way
→Pick your people. He niched to Christian entrepreneurs so messaging and programs speak directly to real pains.
→Go where they are. Most content and conversations happen on LinkedIn, where his audience already hangs out.
→Iterate the message. Test, learn, refine. He chose depth over chasing every possible segment or format.
Soapbox moment: Be slow to hurry, quick to execute. Take the pause to aim your efforts, then commit and move. Sprinting is useful, not permanent. Sustainable pace wins.
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Thinking about writing a book and need a coach or ghostwriter who will keep you moving? Visit https://jmring.com/hire-jordan/ or email: jordan@jmring.com
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