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The China-Global South Podcast

The China-Global South Project

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A weekly discussion on Chinese engagement in the developing world from the news team of The China-Global South Project (CGSP). Join hosts Eric Olander in Vietnam and Cobus van Staden in South Africa for insightful interviews with scholars, analysts, and journalists from around the world. You'll also get regular updates from CGSP's editors in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East.
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What Maduro's Detention Means for China

Season 16 Ā· Episode 1

mardi 6 janvier 2026 • Duration 52:11

One of the prevailing narratives that's emerged following the U.S. military intervention in Venezuela and the detention of President NicolƔs Maduro is that this is a major setback for China. Some analysts have called it a "strategic failure" on Beijing's part, while others have described it as "reality check" for China's role as a "global player."

But China's ability to influence events in Venezuela and elsewhere in Latin America is extremely limited, so the assessment that what happened in Caracas was a blow to Beijing may also be overstated.

Alonso Illueca, CGSP's non-resident fellow for Latin America and the Caribbean, joins Eric from Panama City to discuss whether Maduro's capture presents new risks or opportunities for China.

šŸ“Œ Topics covered include:

  • China's response to the U.S. detention of NicolĆ”s Maduro
  • Why Venezuela matters to China: oil, loans, and exposure
  • Why Venezuela is not a Taiwan precedent
  • The U.S. "Our Hemisphere" doctrine and spheres of influence
  • China's special envoy visit to Caracas
  • Short-term setbacks vs. long-term gains for China
  • Electoral pushback against China in Latin America
  • Panama tensions over ports and Chinese-linked infrastructure
  • Why Latin America cannot quickly decouple from China
  • Military force vs. economic leverage in U.S.–China rivalry

Show Notes:

Join the Discussion:

X:Ā @ChinaGSProjectĀ |Ā @eric_olanderĀ |Ā @stadenesqueĀ |Ā @christiangeraud

Facebook:Ā www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
YouTube:Ā www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth

Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP atĀ @chinagsproject.bsky.social

Follow CGSP in French and Spanish:Ā 

Join us Patreon!
Become a CGSP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CGSP Podcast mug!Ā www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

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2025 China-Global South Year in Review

Season 3 Ā· Episode 46

jeudi 25 dĆ©cembre 2025 • Duration 01:02:26

In this special year-end edition of The China-Global South Podcast, Eric, Cobus, and Géraud look back on the top stories of 2025 and look ahead to the key trend to watch in 2026. 

šŸ“ŒĀ Topics covered include:

  • Simandou goes online (Guinea) and the iron ore geopolitics shift
  • Zambia's Kafue River spill and the China narrative battle
  • China's manufacturing push, overcapacity, and export pressures
  • Soybeans and South America's growing leverage in U.S.–China trade
  • China–India dĆ©tente and what it changes (and doesn't)
  • G20 turbulence around South Africa and global governance fractures
  • 2026 outlook: Southeast Asia rivalry, Zimbabwe lithium value-add, Senegal hidden debt

Show Notes:

Join the Discussion:

X:Ā @ChinaGSProjectĀ |Ā @eric_olanderĀ |Ā @stadenesqueĀ |Ā @christiangeraud

Facebook:Ā www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
YouTube:Ā www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth

Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP atĀ @chinagsproject.bsky.social

Follow CGSP in French and Spanish:Ā 

Join us Patreon!
Become a CGSP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CGSP Podcast mug!Ā www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

Trump, China and the New Power Politics in Asia

Season 3 Ā· Episode 37

mardi 14 octobre 2025 • Duration 35:58

Chinese exports are booming—but ties with the U.S. are collapsing. Across Asia, from Beijing to Manila, Washington's shifting strategy under Trump is reshaping alliances and testing security guarantees that have underpinned the region for decades.

Eric speaks with James Crabtree, a distinguished visiting fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations and the Asia Society, about how Asia's leaders are adapting to a world in flux:

  • China's mix of confidence and anxiety amid its own economic slowdown

  • How Trump's erratic policy is breaking apart the anti-China coalition

  • Growing doubts in Tokyo, Seoul, and Manila about U.S. security guarantees

  • Taiwan's precarious position and fears of being left alone

  • Vietnam's balancing act between U.S. tariffs and China's dominance

  • Why India is quietly building backup plans with Europe

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A Primer on the Escalating Tensions in the South China Sea

mardi 27 juin 2023 • Duration 51:01

The South China Sea is one of the world's most strategically vital maritime zones where more than $5 trillion of trade passes through each year -- a whopping 60% of the globe's total maritime commerce. It's also the epicenter of an increasingly contentious geopolitical dispute among more than half a dozen countries over territorial boundaries and who ultimately controls this enormous body of water.

Chinese sovereignty claims over the whole of the South China Sea have provoked furious responses from its regional neighbors and sparked a dangerous duel with the U.S. and other major navies over continued freedom of navigation through the area.

Ray Powell, a former U.S. Air Force colonel, tracks the maneuvers of ships and other vessels operating in the South China Sea on a daily basis as the team lead for Stanford University's Project Myoushu. Ray joins Eric & Cobus from Palo Alto to break down the different territorial claims and why this burgeoning maritime conflict is so incredibly important.

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China's Fanciful Dream to Play Israeli-Palestinian Peacemaker

mercredi 21 juin 2023 • Duration 49:33

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas wrapped up a visit to Beijing last week where he heard lofty promises from Chinese officials about their desire to mediate a settlement with Israel. While the visit made for some good headlines, the chances of China jump-starting the stalled peace process are close to zero.

Tuvia Gering, a leading China watcher in Israel and a researcher at the Institute for National Security Studies in Jerusalem, and Jony Essa, CGSP's Arabic Editor, join Eric and Cobus to discuss the key takeaways from the Abbas visit and explain why China is not well-positioned to broker a settlement between Israelis and Palestinians.

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If You Lead a Developing Country and Want to Borrow Money From China, Then Listen to This Podcast

mercredi 7 juin 2023 • Duration 49:54

The days of China easily handing out billions of dollars to build infrastructure in developing countries around the world are now over. The Chinese can't afford it anymore and many of the borrowing countries just don't have the capacity to take on more debt.

But that doesn't mean the Chinese aren't lending anymore. They are. It's just that the projects they finance today are either small -- below $50 million -- or "beautiful" -- support local communities and align with certain Chinese political objectives.

Edwin Li, a Beijing-based project finance attorney for the international law firm Dentons, detailed these new lending priorities in a recent article and joins Eric & Cobus to explain why it's critical that borrowing countries clearly understand what China does and doesn't fund.

SHOW NOTES:

  • China ODI Project Finance and Law: How to Define "Xiao Er Mei" (Small or Beautiful) in the Belt and Road Initiative by Edwin Li: https://bit.ly/3MTxde2
  • Boston University Global Development Policy Center: "Small is Beautiful": A New Era in China's Overseas Development Finance? by Rebecca Ray: https://bit.ly/3Hnm8iL


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Key Lessons From Indonesia's China-Backed Mining & Infrastructure Ventures

jeudi 25 mai 2023 • Duration 48:46

Indonesia is a pioneer among developing countries for its efforts in moving up the EV battery metal value chain. Whereas most other countries like the DR Congo and Chile export raw commodities that are processed elsewhere, Indonesia now requires all of the nickel mined in the country to be processed locally.

But just as in the DRC where the Chinese dominate the cobalt mining sector, a similar dynamic is now playing out in Indonesia.

CGSP's Southeast Asia Antonia Timmerman joins Eric & Cobus from Jakarta to talk about China's controversial role in the Indonesian mining business plus how a new Chinese-backed high-speed railway is generating more concern than excitement.

SHOW NOTES:

  • Rest of World: The dirty road to clean energy: How China's electric vehicle boom is ravaging the environment by Antonia Timmerman: https://bit.ly/3OGPP3k
  • The China-Global South Project: Why Many Indonesians Think Jokowi Fumbled Chinese High-Speed Rail Diplomacy, Even As It Nears Completion by Antonia Timmerman: https://bit.ly/45vx5K1


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The Case for More U.S. Soft Power to Counter China in the Global South

mardi 16 mai 2023 • Duration 01:04:02

China is one of the very few truly bipartisan issues in Washington today where there is near unanimous consensus that the U.S. must work to counter Beijing's growing influence around the world, especially in developing countries.

The problem is that there is much less agreement on what the U.S. should actually do to respond to the China challenge.

Dan Runde, a senior vice president at the DC-based think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies, joins Eric & Cobus to discuss his new book that makes the case for why bolstering U.S. soft power is key to persuading Global South countries to favor the United States over China.

SHOW NOTES:

  • Amazon: The American Imperative: Reclaiming Global Leadership through Soft Power by Daniel Runde: https://amzn.to/3OiDPVL
  • Amazon: The United States vs. China: The Quest for Global Economic Leadership by C. Fred Bergsten: https://amzn.to/3Mv7ols


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Become a CAP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CAP Podcast mug!

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China's Confusing, Contradictory Policy on Coal Power

mardi 9 mai 2023 • Duration 46:30

In September 2021, President Xi Jinping announced at the United Nations that China would immediately halt all financing of coal power projects abroad as part of Beijing's broader ambition to achieve carbon neutrality by 2060.

Since then, the Chinese government has fulfilled that pledge, terminating coal power plant financing deals in Zimbabwe, South Africa, and other countries. But at home, China's policy on coal is very different. In fact, this year alone, the Chinese have approved more than 20gw of new coal power production in just the first three months of the year, more than all of 2021 combined.

Christoph Nedopil Wang, an associate professor at Fudan University and one of the world's leading scholars in Chinese green development finance, joins Eric & Cobus to discuss this striking contradiction in Chinese policy on coal and why China does one thing abroad but another at home.

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Update on China's Role in the Burgeoning Global South Debt Crisis

mardi 25 avril 2023 • Duration 01:02:31

There was a lot of excitement earlier this month at the IMF and World Bank's annual gathering in Washington, D.C. about rumors that the impasse between China and multilateral development banks (MDBs) had been resolved. That stalemate between the Chinese and the MDBs, namely the World Bank, has impeded debt restructuring deals in Sri Lanka, Zambia, and now Ghana among other countries.

But now, two weeks later, there's still no official confirmation from either China or the MDBs that they've settled their differences.

Kevin Gallagher, director of the Global Development Policy Center at Boston University, attended the Spring Meetings in Washington, D.C., and joins Eric & Cobus to give an update on the current state of debt relief for some of the world's poorest countries.

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