The Cashflow Show: Entrepreneurship Insights for Founders, CEOs and Business Leaders – Details, episodes & analysis

Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Cashflow Show Podcast, host Clayton M. Coke sits down with Will Scott, Real Estate Disputes Partner at Irwin Mitchell, to explore the resurgence of office demand as UK businesses adapt to staff returning to the workplace. With 45% of UK businesses planning to expand office space in the next 12-18 months, Will unpacks the drivers behind this trend, the challenges of limited Grade A office supply, and the strategic considerations for corporate occupiers. From hybrid working to cost pressures and environmental goals, this episode offers actionable insights for business leaders navigating the evolving commercial property landscape.

Key Discussion Points: 

• Return-to-Office Trends: 72% of surveyed businesses report increased office attendance, with 74% expecting further rises in the next 12-18 months, driven by the need for collaboration and social capital. 
• Office Space Demand: 45% of UK businesses plan to expand office space, but 49% prefer reconfiguring existing spaces due to high relocation costs. 
• Post-Pandemic Lessons: 64% of businesses admit to over-downsizing during COVID-19, highlighting the need for strategic, long-term property planning. 
• Hybrid Working Challenges: Younger employees accustomed to remote work need incentives like flexible hours, better amenities, and inclusive environments to return to the office. 
• Sustainability and Costs: Businesses face a shortage of environmentally friendly, BREAM-certified office spaces, with rising costs posing barriers to office alterations. 
• HR and Property Strategy Alignment: Integrating HR and property strategies is critical to designing workspaces that boost engagement and retention.

Key Takeaways: 

• Corporate occupiers are prioritizing collaboration and brand identity, driving the return-to-office movement. 
• Reconfiguring existing office spaces is often more cost-effective than relocating, but businesses must plan for hybrid working needs. 
• A clear property strategy aligned with business goals is essential to navigate rising costs and limited supply. 
• Incentivizing employees with flexible hours, improved IT, and inclusive environments can boost office attendance.

Notable Quotes: 

• “It’s by being together that you can really drive your brand and drive your profit.” – Will Scott 
• “The key for all corporate occupiers is strategy. The strategy must be driven by the business needs.” – Will Scott 
• “One of the best things you can do is take a breath and step back… don’t make any big decision now because you don’t know what it’s going to be in the future.” – Will Scott

Actionable Insights for Businesses: 

1. Develop a Property Strategy: Assess your business’s long-term needs (e.g., hybrid or flexible working) and evaluate whether your current space can adapt or if relocation is necessary. 
2. Align HR and Property Goals: Collaborate with HR to design workspaces that support employee engagement, retention, and new working practices like collaboration and quiet zones. 
3. Explore Cost-Effective Solutions: Consider reconfiguring existing spaces to accommodate hybrid working rather than incurring high relocation costs. 
4. Incentivize Office Attendance: Offer flexible hours, free amenities (e.g., breakfast), and inclusive environments to encourage employees, especially younger workers, to return. 
5. Prioritize Sustainability: Explore ESG-related financing options to fund environmentally friendly office upgrades, potentially securing lower interest rates.

Resources: 

• Full Irwin Mitchell Corporate Occupiers Report: www.irwinmitchell.com
• Connect with Will Scott: Contact details available in the report. 
• Listen to The Cashflow Show Podcast for more business insights.

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Episode Summary:
In this vibrant episode of The Cashflow Show, host Clayton M. Coke is joined by Kelly Wolgamott, Vice President of Pure Michigan, to explore why Michigan is a top destination for UK travellers. From Detroit’s Motown legacy and professional sports to natural wonders like the Great Lakes and Mackinac Island, Kelly highlights Michigan’s cultural, culinary, and tourism offerings. She discusses how businesses are adapting to sports tourism trends and the state’s economic impact, inviting Brits to experience Michigan’s unique charm.

Key Discussion Points: 

• Michigan’s Cultural Icons: Detroit, birthplace of Motown, hosts legends like Stevie Wonder and Diana Ross, with the Motown Museum as a key attraction. 
• Sports Tourism Boom: 48% of Brits travel for live sports, and Detroit’s walkable downtown offers four major league teams (NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB). 
• Natural Beauty: Michigan boasts 5,200 km of Great Lakes coastline, Mackinac Island’s car-free charm, and Northern Lights viewing opportunities. 
• Culinary and Agricultural Strength: As the second most agriculturally diverse state, Michigan’s farm-to-table scene and Traverse City’s wine industry attract top chefs. 
• Hospitality Readiness: Michigan’s tourism industry, generating $53.2B in 2023, is primed for international visitors with boutique and chain hotels. 
• Accessibility: Direct flights from London and a new Dublin-Detroit route (starting May 8, 2025) make Michigan easy to reach. 
• Emerging Soccer Scene: Detroit Football Club and Grand Rapids’ new professional soccer team cater to UK soccer fans.

Key Takeaways:

• Michigan’s blend of cultural heritage, sports, and natural beauty makes it a compelling destination for UK travelers. 
• The state’s hospitality industry is well-equipped to welcome sports tourists, boosting local economies with $1.4B in tax revenue from Detroit alone. 
• Michigan’s culinary diversity and accessibility enhance its appeal as a unique, non-cookie-cutter travel experience. 
• Businesses are capitalizing on tourism trends, offering tailored experiences for international visitors.

Notable Quotes: 

• “Detroit is the largest city in Michigan… well known as the home of Motown.” — Kelly Wolgamott 
• “Tourism is an economic driver for Michigan… supporting more than 120,000 jobs in Detroit alone.” — Kelly Wolgamott 
• “Michigan is a step back in time with incredible resort and boutique hotel opportunities.” — Kelly Wolgamott

Actionable Insights for Businesses: 

• Tap into Sports Tourism: Offer packages or promotions tied to Detroit’s professional sports events or college games to attract UK visitors. 
• Highlight Unique Experiences: Market boutique hotels, local cuisine, or cultural attractions like the Motown Museum to stand out from generic offerings. 
• Leverage Digital Platforms: Use michigan.org and social media to promote tailored itineraries for international travelers, emphasizing accessibility. 
• Collaborate Locally: Partner with tourism boards like Pure Michigan to align with events like the NFL Draft or techno festivals, boosting visibility.

Resources: 

• Explore trip ideas and itineraries at michigan.org. 
• Follow Pure Michigan on Facebook and Instagram for updates. 
• Learn about Detroit’s tourism impact at visitdetroit.com.

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📋 Episode Summary

In this eye-opening episode of The Cashflow Show, host Clayton M Coke is joined by financial psychotherapist and author Vicky Reynal, to explore how our emotional relationships with money shape our definitions of wealth. They discuss insights from the recent HSBC Premier report, how generational and cultural influences affect financial behaviour, and why wealth is no longer just about yachts and six-figure salaries. Vicky also shares actionable steps to shift from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance—both personally and professionally.

🧠 Key Discussion Points

• Emotional drivers behind money behaviour: spending, saving, and conflict
• The impact of generational money beliefs on financial self-worth
• Why Gen Z is redefining success beyond material assets
• The psychological aftermath of COVID-19 on work, money, and meaning
• Social media's illusion of wealth and debt-fueled lifestyles
• Breaking financial taboos and the liberating power of money conversations

💡 Key Takeaways

• Wealth is increasingly defined by quality of life, not material gain
• Intergenerational money mindsets can create invisible financial limitations
• Even high-income earners often don't feel wealthy due to toxic comparisons
• Financial wellbeing requires emotional awareness, not just fiscal strategy

🗣️ Notable Quotes

💼 Actionable Insights for Businesses

• Redefine employee success metrics: Focus on wellbeing, flexibility, and purpose—not just compensation.
• Tackle money shame in the workplace: Encourage open discussions about financial health and offer resources like financial coaching.
• Shift marketing narratives: Promote services that support life goals, not just financial accumulation.
• Appeal to modern wealth values: Emphasize experiences, work-life balance, and meaningful growth in your brand messaging.

🔗 Resources

•   📊 [HSBC UK Wealth Perception Report (Search on HSBC UK)]  
• Connect with Vicky Reynal on Instagram: @vickyreynalpsychotherapy
• Book: Money on Your Mind by Vicky Reynal (available at major booksellers)

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A solo "welcome back" episode from your host Clayton M Coke. After an extended break due to world events The Cashflow Show is back  with new guests and an improved format.

Clayton shares what's been happening with the show and the new direction we'll be taking for late 2021 into 2022.

He also details the "Better Call Clayton" segment which you can take part in by leaving a message [regarding your current business problem] on our SpeakPipe page and we will try to feature it on the show.

Time Stamps:
00:00-00:40 - Intro
00:41-03:50 - Update on changes to The Cashflow Show
03:51-04:49 - Better Call Clayton
04:50- 05:45 -World Podcast Day Reminder
05:46-06:06 - Outro

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Clayton M Coke and George Theodosiou  discuss Public Speaking, Growing Instagram, Working with Trades People, Loyalty, Websites and Notorious B.I G!

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Clayton M Coke and George Theodosiou  discuss Insolvency, Cashflow Reality, Bad Decisions, Simplicity, Processes, Levi Roots and Tesco!

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Clayton M Coke can be found here:

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Our main sponsor is PRMS Ltd | Late Payment Management | www.prmsltd.co.uk

Our theme music is called The Mediator published by Dialogue (London) Ltd (c) 2016 available on Radiogram Records Ltd

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Cashflow 101, Promoting Events, Finding Suppliers, MIPIM, Branding & Identity, Hiring Staff and Rich Dad, Poor Dad!

Brendan Quinn can be found here:

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Our main sponsor is PRMS Ltd | Late Payment Management | www.prmsltd.co.uk

Our theme music is called The Mediator  by C M Coke (c) 2016 

Our producer is Dialogue (London) Ltd

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Surveillance, Stake-Outs, Making the Leap, Being your own Boss, Close Protection, Helping newcomers & Magnum PI!

Richard Thomas can be found here:

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https://thomasyorke.co.uk/- Website

Clayton M Coke can be found here:

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Our main sponsor is PRMS Ltd | Late Payment Management | www.prmsltd.co.uk

Our theme music is called The Mediator  by C M Coke (c) 2016 

Our producer is Dialogue (London) Ltd

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Saatchi & Saatchi, Fonts, Jacqueline Gold, Advertising and Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid!

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Our main sponsor is PRMS Ltd | Late Payment Management | www.prmsltd.co.uk

Our theme music is called The Mediator  by C M Coke (c) 2016 

Our producer is Dialogue (London) Ltd

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Pride & Prejudice, Leadership, Reputation, Simplicity, Copywriting and Scarface with Al Pacino!

Michelle B Harris  can be found here:

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Clayton M Coke can be found here:

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Our main sponsor is PRMS Ltd | Late Payment Management | www.prmsltd.co.uk

Our theme music is called The Mediator  by C M Coke (c) 2016 

Our producer is Dialogue (London) Ltd

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