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What if the reason we can't fix our politics is that we've skipped the part where we actually get to know each other?

Rajiv Mehta has spent the better part of four decades asking questions that most people don't think to ask. At NASA, it was about the complexity lurking beneath simplified models of the atmosphere. At Apple, it was why people don't take more pictures. At Zume Life, it was why even doctors can't stick to their own health regimens. And for the past twenty-plus years, the question has been deeper still: how do we actually learn to know ourselves and each other well enough to build something lasting together?

Rajiv is the founder of Mapping Ourselves, which helps organizational leaders build the cultures they seek by exploring the human roots of high performance. He's also a member of WEAVE, the nationwide initiative that supports grassroots leaders working to repair our frayed social fabric. His book Camaraderie is coming out this summer. The conversation moves from Mets fandom to Mars to medicine to the philosophy of Peter Singer to Genghis Khan, and somehow it all connects. That's the kind of episode this is.

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Key Takeaways

Relationships before results. One of Raj's core convictions, borrowed from a friend long engaged in social movements, is that our culture has it exactly backwards. We treat connection as a luxury, something to get to after the real work is done. But without genuine relationship, results rarely last. This isn't soft thinking. It's what SEAL teams already know, and it's what Raj has been trying to bring to the rest of us.

The self is plural. The phrase "quantified self" always had a problem, Raj admits: it pointed inward when the whole point is outward. We are fundamentally social creatures. Studying yourself means studying yourself in community, in relationship, in context. Going off to meditate in a cave has its value, but if you lose sight of yourself-in-the-ecosystem, you've missed the main thing.

Know yourself before you can know others. The doctors who were baffled by patient non-adherence were themselves non-adherent. We can't build real camaraderie with people we don't understand, and we can't understand others if we haven't done the harder work of understanding ourselves. Self-knowledge isn't navel-gazing. It's the prerequisite for everything else.

Community, connection, belonging, and camaraderie are not the same thing. Raj draws careful distinctions. Community is a container. Belonging is an emotional sense of home, with real agency attached. Connection is deeply interpersonal, the discovery of specific things you genuinely like about another person. Camaraderie brings all of this together within a group united by shared purpose. Conflating them leads to surface-level interventions that don't hold.

Complexity isn't a bug. It's the reality we have to learn to live inside. From atmospheric modeling at NASA to human behavior in healthcare, Raj kept running into the same error: people mistake their simplified models for the world itself. When something goes wrong, they blame the workers instead of the design. Real progress requires holding complexity rather than explaining it away.

Start human, then get to the hard stuff. Whether it's cross-partisan dialogue or cross-cultural misunderstanding, Raj's prescription is the same: find the human first. Discover what you share. Build some real connection. Then, and only then, you might be able to have the harder conversation. Walking straight into the room with a contested policy topic and expecting good-faith exchange is, as he puts it, nearly impossible.

Rajiv Mehta is the founder of Mapping Ourselves, which helps organizational leaders build high-performing cultures by developing the self-knowledge and mutual understanding that genuine camaraderie requires. With an engineering background from Princeton and Stanford, and a career spanning NASA, Apple, and Adobe, he has spent the past two decades guiding corporate executives, military commanders, and community leaders through the practice of personal science. He is a member of WEAVE, the nationwide initiative supporting grassroots leaders working to repair social trust across America. His book Camaraderie is forthcoming this summer.

Mapping Ourselves - mappingourselves.com

WEAVE: The Social Fabric Project - weavers.org

Camaraderie by Rajiv Mehta (forthcoming, summer 2025)

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Clarity, charity, and conviction can live in the same room.

Yes, really.

We can survive. But can we thrive? That's a different question entirely.

Corey Nathan joined Andrew Keen on Keen on America to talk about the state of civic discourse in America. Robert Mueller's death and the president's response to it is the jumping-off point, but the conversation goes much deeper: the exhausted majority, the horseshoe of extremism, storytelling as a bridge across difference, and what it takes to stay in hard conversations. This feed drop brings that interview to the TP&R audience.

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Key Takeaways:

Robert Mueller as a mirror. Mueller served under presidents of both parties, earned a Purple Heart, and devoted his education to public service. His death and the president's response to it shows what happens when tribalism does our thinking: one data point erases an entire life.

The exhausted majority is real. The Hidden Tribes study from More in Common found that only 6-8% on either side qualify as genuine extremists. The other 85% are far more nuanced. They want to enjoy the barbecue and Thanksgiving dinner without it turning into a war. The conflict entrepreneurs don't represent most of us.

It's a horseshoe, not a spectrum. The extreme ends have more in common with each other than either would admit. The incentive structure is identical: compete for attention, be the loudest voice in the room.

Stories are the antidote to caricature. When we understand someone's story, we stop reducing them to a single data point. Corey illustrates this with a friend born in Lebanon with family in Iran who voted for Trump. The disagreements are real. But understanding the story behind the view changes everything.

Surviving and thriving are not the same thing. Corey's family spent 800 years in what is now Ukraine. They knew how to survive. But survival isn't the American promise. The experiment is worth protecting and worth talking about.

About Andrew Keen

Andrew Keen is a British-American broadcaster and author, host of Keen on America and How to Fix Democracy. He is known for pressing his guests hard and not letting easy answers stand.

Links and Resources

• Keen on America: https://keenon.substack.com/keenon.substack.com/

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Clarity, charity, and conviction can live in the same room.

What does it look like to spend 25 years covering a story you wish you could stop covering — and still refuse to despair?

Gustavo Arellano is an LA Times columnist, Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the son of two Mexican immigrants. In this conversation he covers the Trump deportation machine, Rancho Libertarianism, why Americans hate Mexicans but love Mexican food, and what it actually looks like to stay in relationship across political difference.

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• The Deportation Leviathan: This isn’t about policy logic or net fiscal impact. It’s demonization as strategy, funded for decades, borrowed from California’s Prop 187 playbook.
• Agents of Their Own Lives: Undocumented people are not a pitiful mass. They are individuals who make this country better. Framing them as victims does them a disservice.
• Rancho Libertarianism: The political identity Gustavo coined for Mexican hill-country values: bootstrap mentality, community pride, distrust of government, refusal to be used by either party. It explains a lot about 2024.
• Latinos Are Not a Monolith: Every community on his 3,000-mile pre-election road trip had its own story. None of it reducible to a single bloc.
• You Eat Their Food, You Start to See Them: Mexican food as cultural bridge. The problem with Chipotle is that it’s a burrito gentrifier, displacing local traditions it doesn’t care about.
• Stay in the Friendships: A Trump-supporting friend promised to take up guns for Gustavo if ICE came for him. Gustavo told him to start carrying his passport, “because you’re darker than me.” The friend responded with a thumbs up. That, Gustavo says, was a victory.
• These Are Also the Best of Times: During Operation Wetback in the 1950s, the only people fighting back were communists. Today the resistance is broader than anything this country has seen on this issue.

Gustavo Arellano is a columnist for the Los Angeles Times and the author of Taco USA: How Mexican Food Conquered America. He was a finalist for the 2025 Pulitzer Prize in commentary and part of the team that won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize in breaking news. The son of two Mexican immigrants, he has covered immigration, Latino politics, and the American Southwest for 25 years.

Gustavo Arellano

• Newsletter (free, weekly): gustavoarellano.org
• LA Times: latimes.com/people/gustavo-arellano

“Deportee (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)” (referenced at 00:26:00)

Woody Guthrie’s song about the 1948 crash that killed 28 Mexican farmworkers. ICE’s January 2025 post calling the victims “illegal Mexican aliens” is what sent Gustavo to write about it.

Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam (referenced at 00:57:00)

On declining social capital. Gustavo’s prescription: join things, meet people, touch grass.

Born in East LA (1987, referenced at 00:15:00)

Cheech Marin’s satirical classic. Gustavo’s conversation about it with David Chang is what put it on Corey’s radar.

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Clarity, charity, and conviction can live in the same room.

In this episode, Corey Nathan sits down with Kate Carney, Deputy Director at More in Common. Kate shares her fascinating journey—from working in Congress to boating 6,000 miles around the U.S.—and how those experiences shape her work today. The conversation centers on More in Common’s new report, The Connection Opportunity, and explores how we can foster meaningful relationships across political, racial, religious, and socioeconomic divides.

What's Discussed:

• Why social connection is critical to healthy democracy.

• Surprising data on Americans’ openness to diverse perspectives.

• How psychological factors like intergroup anxiety impact connection.

• Kate’s transformative journey completing the Great American Loop.

• Real-world solutions for bridging divides in your own community.

Episode Highlights:

• 02:00 – Kate’s 6,000-mile boat journey and what it taught her about America.

• 10:00 – The Connection Opportunity: How More in Common is reframing social cohesion.

• 21:00 – Why politics remains the most difficult line of difference to cross.

• 25:00 – The power of community norms and intergroup anxiety.

• 32:00 – Revisiting the "Hidden Tribes" report and what’s changed since its release.

• 41:00 – The seven levers of change for increasing social connection.

• 48:00 – How cities like Kansas City, Houston and Pittsburgh are fostering community dialogue.

• 54:00 – Personal agency and why democracy starts with you.

Featured Quotes: “We are inherently diverse. To build strong communities, we have to be intentional about connecting across our differences.” — Kate Carney “The more people connect across difference, the more they want to—it’s a cascade.” — Kate Carney “There’s an overwhelming desire to have these conversations. It’s the fortress of assumptions that gets in our way.” — Corey Nathan

Resources Mentioned:

• More in Common: www.moreincommonus.com

• The Connection Opportunity Report: moreincommonus.com/publication/the-connection-opportunity

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Let’s keep talkin' politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡

In this episode, host Corey Nathan reflects on where we stand as a country several months into the current administration. With candor and conviction, Corey explores the themes of democracy, decency, and due process. Drawing from scripture, the Constitution, and commentary by thought leaders like David Brooks and Mike Madrid, this episode delivers a compelling, timely snapshot of America’s civic health—and what’s at stake moving forward.

What's Discussed:

• Why the First, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments are more important than ever

• The consequences of immigration policies that bypass due process

• How the economy (including tariffs and inflation) is impacting voters

• What swayed key constituencies in the 2024 election

• What to watch for heading into 2026 and 2028

Episode Highlights:

• [00:02:00] Framing the episode: A “temperature check” on America

• [00:05:00] The First Amendment under threat

• [00:07:00] Due process and the constitutional rights of all persons

• [00:14:00] What really moved voters in 2024 (spoiler: price of eggs + immigration)

• [00:17:00] A powerful quote from David Brooks on civilizational foundations

• [00:22:00] Legal attacks and a defense of constitutional law

• [00:29:00] Polling data showing shifts in public opinion

• [00:34:00] Real-world impact on families, students, and small businesses

Featured Quotes:

• “Nor shall any person be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.”
• “Don’t talk to me about Donald Trump being a brilliant businessman—he’s a brilliant thief.”
• “For me, it’s about democracy and decency. Always has been.”

Resources Mentioned:

• David Brooks: "What’s Happening Is Not Normal" (NYT) – www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/opinion/trump-harvard-law-firms.html
• Adam Unikowsky on Substack – adamunikowsky.substack.com/p/the-case-for-suing
• Mike Madrid's Substack, The Great Transformation – substack.com/@madridmike

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Let’s keep talkin' politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡

In this episode, host Corey Nathan talks with renowned journalist, scholar, and public intellectual E.J. Dionne Jr. E.J. is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a syndicated columnist for The Washington Post, a professor at Georgetown University, and a prolific author. Together, they discuss democracy, faith, political polarization, and the enduring need for real argument and hope in public life.

What We Discuss:

• How E.J.’s upbringing shaped his approach to political debate and dialogue.

• Why engaging seriously with opposing ideas is crucial to democracy.

• The difference between optimism and hope — and why hope is essential.

• How faith and civil society contribute to repairing societal divisions.

Episode Highlights:

• [00:03:00] E.J. shares how his father encouraged open political debate.

• [00:06:00] Reflections on DEI, the “woke” debates, and critiques of excesses.

• [00:10:00] The Trump administration’s unintended role in uniting pro-democracy groups.

• [00:15:00] Anger and economic grievances in Fall River, Massachusetts.

• [00:24:00] Why hope, not just optimism, is vital for public life.

• [00:36:00] E.J.’s personal faith journey and the importance of humble belief.

• [00:48:00] Reflections on Pope Francis’ legacy and the Catholic Church.

• [01:05:00] What worries E.J. about democracy today — and what gives him hope.

Featured Quotes: "In real argument, you enter imaginatively into the ideas your opponent holds." — E.J. Dionne "Hope is the virtue on which faith and love depend." — E.J. Dionne "You can really disagree with people you love, and you can love people you disagree with." — E.J. Dionne "We find sanctity even in mundane conversations." — Corey Nathan

Resources Mentioned:

📘 Souled Out: Reclaiming Faith and Politics after the Religious Right - Princeton University Press

📰 E.J. Dionne's column at The Washington Post – www.washingtonpost.com/people/ej-dionne-jr

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Let’s keep talkin' politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡

🎙️Award-winning journalist and Atlantic staff writer McKay Coppins joins us to explore the delicate intersections of politics, faith, and journalism. From shadowing Donald Trump to chronicling the political journey of Mitt Romney, McKay shares what it takes to pursue truth in turbulent times.

What We Discuss:

• What it’s like getting rare access to Trump, Romney, and the Murdochs

• How to navigate political rationalizations without losing your soul

• McKay’s writing rituals and creative process

• The powerful role of curiosity in building bridges across divides

• Why faith and civic life matter more than ever

Episode Highlights:

00:02:00 – McKay’s infamous 2014 Trump profile and its surprising legacy 00:10:00 – How luck and sincere curiosity lead to exclusive access 00:16:00 – Late nights, caps lock, and McKay’s writing habits 00:29:00 – The chilling effect of political intimidation on journalism 00:41:00 – Why many GOP leaders stay silent—and what Romney heard behind the scenes 00:50:00 – Do you lose your soul in politics? A deep dive 00:57:00 – The spiritual vacuum in modern America and how faith might fill it 01:02:00 – Why curiosity is the cure for today’s civic divide

Featured Quotes:

"He seemed like he desperately wanted affirmation all the time... and it was like empty calories."  "To be somebody who has faith is to constantly have it tested and to have it evolve." "We need leaders thinking more about their obituaries than the next news cycle." "Curiosity is an underrated virtue in politics."

Resources Mentioned:

📘 Romney: A Reckoning – Simon and Schuster 📘 The Wilderness – Hachette Book Group 📰 McKay’s articles at The Atlantic – Visit

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Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡

In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares a candid reflection about a recent encounter where he was right on the facts and the law—but completely wrong in how he presented them. Yet if we're honest with ourselves about when we make mistakes, it's a good opportunity to learn, reminding us that how we communicate is just as important as what we communicate.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why being right on the law isn’t enough in a conversation

• How righteous anger can derail productive dialogue

• Why due process matters for everyone—especially those who aren't guilty of crimes

• Tools for engaging in hard conversations with empathy and curiosity

• How the Constitution and Judeo-Christian values intersect in public discourse

Episode Highlights:

• [00:02:00] Corey introduces the story and the key lesson he learned

• [00:05:00] Breakdown of the Alien Enemies Act and a real legal case

• [00:06:45] A stranger challenges Corey at a restaurant

• [00:07:30] Corey "goes Jersey" and loses his cool

• [00:13:00] What due process really protects and why it matters

• [00:16:00] How Isaac Saul, David Brooks, and Mónica Guzmán inspired a better way to respond

• [00:18:00] Reading the First and Fifth Amendments to ground the conversation

Featured Quotes:

• "I was completely right on the facts, but I was completely wrong on the delivery." — Corey Nathan
• "Due process is there for the innocent just as much as the guilty—even more so for the innocent." — Corey Nathan
• "Ask at least three questions before making your point." — inspired by Isaac Saul

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Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡

In this episode, we sit down with Isaac Saul, founder of Tangle, a widely respected, nonpartisan political newsletter. Isaac and his team bring a fresh approach to political journalism by curating multiple perspectives—right, left, and independent—on major stories of the day. Corey, a fan and avid reader of Tangle, dives deep into Isaac’s upbringing in Bucks County, PA, how that shaped his civic “multilingualism,” and the genesis of Tangle during a particularly difficult phase of his career. Together, they explore the challenges of journalistic ethics, political polarization, media bias, and the future of trustworthy news.

What We Discuss:

• Why Bucks County, PA, is so friggin' awesome! And why it plays a crucial role in shaping moderate political thinkers.

• How Isaac Saul built Tangle from the ground up as a response to media frustration.

• The journalistic principles and ethical guardrails that guide Isaac’s work.

• How to discern quality journalism in an era dominated by clickbait and misinformation.

• The dangers of polarization and what gives Isaac hope about our democratic future.

Episode Highlights:

• [00:01:00] Isaac Saul shares the mission behind Tangle and what inspired him to create it.

• [00:05:00] Corey and Isaac explore how growing up in politically diverse Bucks County cultivated empathy and civic fluency.

• [00:10:00] Isaac discusses his unique way of reaching conspiracy-minded friends—by “using their language” and exposing financial incentives in media.

• [00:15:00] Isaac describes his journalistic background and the importance of reporting with integrity and skepticism.

• [00:24:00] Isaac recounts his “f*** this” moment that led to launching Tangle after being rejected from multiple major outlets.

• [00:34:00] Corey explains his methodical approach to reading Tangle and how it helps refine his own viewpoints.

• [00:40:00] Behind the scenes: How Isaac and his team choose stories and fairly represent both sides of complex political issues.

• [00:54:00] Isaac shares his hopes and fears about political division, executive overreach, and the role of media in democracy.

Featured Quotes:

• "The people who are really politically engaged on the right and the left right now are living in just different realities." – Isaac Saul
• "I know what I think. It’s the least interesting thing on the planet. I live with this brain all day. I want to hear what others think." – Isaac Saul
• "You should treat every click like you're handing a news outlet a dollar." – Isaac Saul
• "Centrism is an ideology in and of itself. I’m not trying to land in the middle—I’m just being honest about my real reactions." – Isaac Saul

Resources Mentioned:

• Tangle Newsletter – www.readtangle.com
• Isaac Saul’s TED Talk: “What Media Doesn’t Tell You” – youtu.be/543mYKKh1EE?si=CjdQv94HzT04vknh
• How Media Bias Works (Tangle article) – www.readtangle.com/why-the-media-is-broken/
• Isaac on Twitter: x.com/Ike_Saul

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Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡

In this deeply moving episode, Corey Nathan welcomes Rabbi Sharon Brous, the senior and founding rabbi of IKAR, a groundbreaking Jewish community based in Los Angeles. Rabbi Brous is also the author of The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Heal Our Hearts and Mend Our Broken World. Together, they explore ancient traditions, mental health, spiritual leadership, and how to foster deeper, more compassionate human connections even across profound divides.

What We Discuss:

• The ancient ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted and its modern relevance.

• The profound impact of being seen and embraced in moments of vulnerability.

• How leaders carry and process communal pain—and why that matters.

• Practical wisdom on staying curious and compassionate across ideological divides.

• The role of community design in spiritual experiences.

Episode Highlights:

• [00:01:00] Rabbi Brous explains the Mishnah Middot and the ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted.

• [00:08:00] Corey and Rabbi Brous discuss the concept of sin as a burden like mental illness.

• [00:15:00] The transformative power of being truly seen and how crying makes space for new realities.

• [00:20:00] Rabbi Brous reflects on the toll leadership can take and how caregivers must process pain.

• [00:24:00] The design of IKAR’s prayer space and how it fosters visibility and community.

• [00:34:00] Navigating discomfort with changes in religious leadership and traditions.

• [00:42:00] How to stay at the table with those who hurt or anger us—and why it’s critical.

• [00:53:00] A powerful story about transformation through simple presence and blessing.

Featured Quotes:

• "Sometimes you don’t even want to get out of bed. Yet, sacred tradition compels us to show our brokenness—and trust that we will be held with love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous

• "If you don’t metabolize pain, it will metastasize inside of you." — Rabbi Sharon Brous

• "We can create new neural and spiritual pathways—by allowing ourselves to be seen and to receive love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous

• "It takes courage to be curious about someone who hurt you, but that’s the only way to heal." — Rabbi Sharon Brous

Resources Mentioned:

• The Amen Effect by Rabbi Sharon Brous: https://ikar.org/the-amen-effect/the-big-idea/

• IKAR Jewish Community: https://www.ikar.org/

• How to Know a Person by David Brooks: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/652822/how-to-know-a-person-by-david-brooks/

• Fierce Love by Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis: https://jacquijlewis.com/fierce-love/

• I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán: https://www.moniguzman.com/book

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