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Ep. 19: Asset Laundering: It’s More Than Money with Oliver Bullough
Season 1 · Episode 19
mercredi 5 février 2025 • Duration 43:44
“This is the model of Italian Renaissance banking.”
In this episode of Seize & Desist, host Aidan Larkin sits down with renowned financial crime journalist Oliver Bullough, author of Moneyland (2019) and Butler to the World (2022), to discuss why global money laundering continues to be an uphill battle despite decades of international effort.
Aidan and Oliver explore the roots and evolution of money laundering, from the Medici's of Renaissance Italy to the offshore shell companies of the Caribbean and the digital currencies of the future.
They also touch upon the UK’s pivotal role in facilitating illegal financial flows, the advent of hawala banking networks and the systemic challenges that impede effective asset recovery.
Timestamps
00:00 - Exploring the UK's Role in Money Laundering and Corruption
03:54 - Complex Global Money Laundering Challenges
11:23 - The Evolution of Value Transfer Systems Through History
16:06 - Rethinking Financial Crime Compliance
22:32 - Money Laundering's Influence on Global Crime
26:41 - The Role of Cash and Crypto in Crime Networks
30:45 - The Global Fight Against Money Laundering
38:28 - Recovering Covid-Related Fraud Payments
42:04 - Combating Corruption and Money Laundering
Resources Mentioned
- Oliver Bullough on The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/profile/oliverbullough
- Books by Oliver Bullough:
- Moneyland (2019)- https://amzn.eu/d/ezB43Rv
- Butler to the World (2022) - https://amzn.eu/d/gaqVRE9
About our Guest
Oliver Bullough is an award-winning journalist and author of Moneyland (2019) and Butler to the World (2022). He is known for his in-depth reporting on offshore finances and the role of the UK in facilitating corruption, with his work regularly being featured in the Guardian, the New York Times, GQ magazine, the Economist, and other places.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 18: The Legal Landscape of Asset Forfeiture
Season 1 · Episode 18
mardi 24 décembre 2024 • Duration 31:53
In our final conversation of the year, our SVP of Client Relations, Joanna Summers, sits down with Stefan Cassella, a former federal prosecutor with more than three decades of experience in international asset forfeiture who has authored over 50 law review articles and played a pivotal role in shaping and advancing federal asset forfeiture laws in the US and abroad.
In this episode, Joanna and Stef explore the growing role of cryptocurrency in criminal investigations and asset forfeiture, highlighting its use in money laundering, investment fraud, and sanctions evasion.
Together, they unpack the complexities of high-profile cases like Bitcoin Fog, the challenges posed by mixers and decentralised exchanges, and the significance of recent court rulings in legitimising blockchain analysis tools.
Stefan also shares practical advice for law enforcement and attorneys navigating the crypto landscape, highlighting the need for enhanced training and resources to address these evolving threats and the critical role of non-conviction-based asset forfeiture, or civil asset forfeiture, as a key law enforcement tool.
Timestamps
02:00 - Stef’s Background
03:00 - The Growing Role of Cryptocurrency in Asset Forfeiture
07:00 - Understanding Civil Asset Forfeiture
11:00 - Regulatory Challenges and the Future of Crypto Laws
14:30 - Complexities of Crypto Mixers and Decentralized Exchanges
19:30 - The Legitimacy of Blockchain Analysis Tools in Court
23:00 - Practical Advice for Law Enforcement and Attorneys in Crypto Forfeiture
24:00 - Insights from Stefan’s Money Laundering and Forfeiture Digest
26:00 - Key Challenges in Crypto Asset Forfeiture
Resources Mentioned
- https://www.trmlabs.com/tackling-crypto-crime-2023-survey-of-law-enforcement
- https://assetforfeiturelaw.us/
- https://www.fatf-gafi.org/en/publications/Fatfrecommendations/Bestpracticesonconfiscationrecommendations4and38andaframeworkforongoingworkonassetrecovery.html
- https://sherwood.news/crypto/momentum-builds-for-a-strategic-national-bitcoin-reserve-but-what-does-that/
- https://academy.assetreality.com/student/page/149456-virtual-asset-transfer-fundamentals
About our Guest:
Stefan Cassella is a former federal prosecutor with more than three decades of experience in international asset forfeiture who has authored over 50 law review articles and played a pivotal role in shaping and advancing federal asset forfeiture laws in the USA and abroad.
Today, as the founder of Asset Forfeiture Law, he continues to provide invaluable guidance to law enforcement, private law firms, and financial institutions by providing expert witness services, training, and legal guidance.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 9: The Secret Life of Digital Money
Season 1 · Episode 9
vendredi 31 mai 2024 • Duration 41:30
“As long as you have these continued gaps in the global regulatory framework around crypto, it’s…too easy for criminals to launder funds.”
In this episode, recorded on April 30th, Aidan and David discuss everything from his early encounters with crypto and his journey into the space to the insights on the evolution of crypto crime shared in his book, ‘The Crypto Launderers’.
Together, they explore the different regulatory approaches to digital money laundering, shed light on why crypto transactions get so much attention from regulators and speculate on the exciting future of cryptocurrency investigations, including the impact of emerging technologies like the metaverse and artificial intelligence.
Timestamps
03:30 - An Accidental Journey into Cryptocurrency Compliance
05:00 - Understanding Anti-Money Laundering Measures in Finance
09:30 - Cryptocurrency Regulation in an Evolving Industry
12:00 - Regulatory Compliance as a Competitive Advantage
15:00 - Balancing Compliance Costs with Anti-Money Laundering
20:00 - Global Disparities in Cryptocurrency Regulation
21:00 - The Complex Evolution of Cryptocurrency in Illicit Finance
25:00 - Blockchain: The Immutable Ledger of Cryptocurrency Transactions
30:00 - Evolving Tactics in Cryptocurrency Crime and Law Enforcement
35:00 - The Future of Global Money Laundering Prevention
37:00 - Evolving Challenges in International Law Enforcement
Resources Mentioned:
- The Crypto Launderers: Crime and Cryptocurrencies from the Dark Web to DeFi and Beyond: Amazon.co.uk: Carlisle, David
- Elliptic’s Crypto Regulatory Affairs Briefing
- Elliptic’s Blog
- RUSI's Center for Financial Crime and Security Studies
About our Guest:
David Carlisle wears many hats: he's the Vice President of Policy and Regulatory Affairs at Elliptic, an Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI)'s Centre for Financial Crime and Security Studies (CFS) and the Author of “The Crypto Launderers: Crime and Cryptocurrencies from the Dark Web to DeFi and Beyond”.
As a former Policy Advisor to the US Treasury’s Office of Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes, David is a respected authority on the intersection of cryptocurrency crime, technology and public policy. He regularly shares his expertise on digital money laundering, regulatory compliance frameworks and sanctions compliance with major media outlets to help shed light on this intricate subject.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 8: The Lasting Impact of Asset Seizures
Season 1 · Episode 8
vendredi 17 mai 2024 • Duration 48:05
“The speed at which this happens is faster than anything we’ve seen before.”
In this episode, Seize & Desist host Aidan Larkin is joined by Jarod Koopman, the Executive Director of Cyber and Forensic Services at IRS Criminal Investigations.
As the only federal law enforcement agency to focus completely on fighting financial crimes, IRS Criminal Investigations has seized more digital assets than any other agency in the world. Aidan and Jarod discuss the secret to IRS-CI’s status as a world leader in digital currency investigations, the reliability of blockchain analytics data in court and the lasting impact of asset seizures on criminal behaviour.
Jarod shares his thoughts on the legitimacy of cryptocurrency transactions, the necessary compliance guidelines, and the parallels between Brazilian jiu-jitsu and cryptocurrency investigations.
Timestamps
01:00 - IRS's Expertise in Cybercrime and Asset Seizures
05:30 - Unveiling the Success Behind Major Investigations
07:00 - Revolutionizing Transactional Analysis with Blockchain Tools
11:30 - Collaborative Innovation in Cybercrime Investigations
13:30 - Evaluating FATF's Effectiveness in Asset Recovery
16:00 - Balancing Privacy and Crime Prevention
19:30 - Explaining Cryptocurrency Mixers and Blockchain Laundering
20:00 - Legitimate Uses of Cryptocurrency Amongst the Illicit Activity
25:30 - The Impact of Asset Seizure in Fighting Crime
30:00 - Law Enforcement and the Evolving Digital Landscape
33:00 - Fostering Resilience and Innovation
36:00 - Why Martial Arts Promotes Success in the Investigative Services
41:00 - Civil Forfeiture in Asset Recovery
44:00 - Validating Blockchain Analytics in Legal Judgments
Resources Mentioned:
- Jarod on the TRM Talks Podcast
- Samourai Wallet Founders Arrested and Charged With Money Laundering
- IRS Criminal Investigations on LinkedIn
About our Guest:
Jarod Koopman is the Executive Director of Cyber and Forensic Services at IRS Criminal Investigations and a black belt in Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu.
He joined the IRS directly after college, rising through the ranks to become the agency's first director of cybercrime. In this role, Jarod oversees all global operations involving cyber and forensic activities, including policy, procedures, budget and investigative services. He also oversees the operation of their new centralised Advanced Collaboration and Data Center (ACDC) which specialises in training and support for crypto compliance.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 7: Chasing Criminals Across the Blockchain
Season 1 · Episode 7
jeudi 2 mai 2024 • Duration 54:27
“Crypto will be a piece in almost every investigation.”
In this episode, Ari and Aidan explore the pivotal role of blockchain analytics in crime prevention.
They delve into why traceable technologies like the blockchain appeal to both criminals and law enforcement agencies, shedding light on how mixing services can facilitate money laundering and examining the evolution of digital currency investigations using real-world examples like the Bitfinex hack.
Ari shares insights from his experiences in both the public and private sectors, including his first encounter with investigating crypto-enabled crimes.
Throughout the episode, they emphasize the importance of balancing financial transparency with individual privacy and advocate for increased education and resources to enable law enforcement agencies to effectively tackle crypto crimes.
Timestamps
02:30 - Networking and motivation through Ari’s running club
05:30 - Tackling the complexities of illicit finance and crypto recovery
10:00 - Libra's impact on global regulatory conversations
14:30 - Understanding cryptocurrency's regulatory challenges
21:30 - The normalization of crypto technology
30:00 - Cryptocurrency's role in modern asset recovery investigations
35:33 - Balancing privacy, innovation and security in the digital age
46:45 - Combating scams and enhancing crypto asset recovery
50:45 - Ari’s advice for fighting crypto-enabled crimes
Resources Mentioned:
- TRM LEA Survey 23: 60% of investigations start w/o a crypto element
- TRM Talks Podcast
- TRM Weekly Roundup Newsletter
- TRM’s Illicit Crypto Economy Report 2023
About our Guest:
Ari Redbord is the Global Head of Policy at blockchain intelligence firm TRM Labs and the Vice-Chair of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission's Technology Advisory Committee (TAC), known for his insights on cryptocurrency policy.
Prior to TRM, Ari served as the Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Columbia and the Senior Advisor to the Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence at the US Treasury, where he regularly collaborated with teams from the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) and the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCen) to investigate financial crimes involving cryptocurrency assets.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 6: The Evolution of Asset Recovery in Cryptocurrency
Season 1 · Episode 6
vendredi 19 avril 2024 • Duration 01:07:18
“Crypto exposed every crack in an undereducated, underutilised system.”
In this episode, recorded on the 15th of February, Aidan and Amanda delve into the world of digital asset recovery, exploring the complexities of civil forfeiture and the use of cryptocurrency to finance terrorism.
Drawing from her extensive background in policy, enforcement and legal affairs, Amanda offers valuable insights into how these experiences have shaped her perspective on cryptocurrency and the future of decentralisation.
Their conversation also touches on why the significance of initiatives like the Association for Women in Cryptocurrency, as Amanda emphasizes the need to improve inclusivity and empowerment across the digital finance ecosystem.
Timestamps
02:00 | Amanda's background as a federal prosecutor
06:30 | Civil vs criminal burden of proof
09:30 | The pros and cons of non-conviction-based forfeiture
18:00 | Cryptocurrency exposes the flaws in the existing asset recovery system
25:00 | Crime and innovation on the path to development
31:00 | The importance of optics in targeting crypto terrorist financing
41:00 | Why we need an Association for Women in Cryptocurrency
43:30 | #UnmanelYourPanel and other advocacy initiatives
46:00 | The importance of male allies to improve inclusion for women
Resources Mentioned:
- WomeninCrypto.org
- Association for Women in Cryptocurrency on LinkedIn
- Association for Women in Cryptocurrency on Twitter (X)
- Women in Crypto Podcast: Decrypting Asset Recovery in Crypto with Joanna Summers
About our Guest:
Amanda Wick is a prominent figure in the world of cryptocurrency and digital finance with an extensive background in policy enforcement and legal affairs.
Having served as the Senior Investigative Counsel for the US House of Representatives, Senior Policy Advisor for the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) and the Chief of Legal Affairs at Chainalysis, Amanda has been a driving force behind some of the key policies shaping our financial landscape.
As the founder of the Association for Women in Cryptocurrency, Amanda is dedicated to fostering inclusivity and empowerment within the digital finance ecosystem, championing initiatives like ‘UnManel Your Panel’ that aim to break down barriers and pave the way for a more diverse industry.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 5: Awareness To Action: Fighting The Global Pig Butchering Crisis
Season 1 · Episode 5
vendredi 5 avril 2024 • Duration 55:07
“This is a massive romance investment scam that is bleeding the world of its money.”
On the 27th of February 2024, Asset Reality’s co-founder and CEO Aidan Larkin had the opportunity to sit down with Erin West to explore the real-world consequences of cyber-enabled crimes like pig butchering.
In this eye-opening conversation, Erin exposes the industrial scale of pig butchering sweatshops, revealing how even the 'scammers' themselves are often victims of trafficking.
Erin and Aidan discuss why a unified global response and drastic policy reforms are the only way to confront this escalating crisis effectively and highlight Operation Shamrock’s plan to educate the global public, seize the illicit proceeds and disrupt the activities of criminal networks.
Timestamps
04:00 | Erin West's background as a prosecutor and her mission to combat pig butchering
07:00 | The REACT task force and its role in investigating high-tech crimes
13:00 | Underestimating the emotional toll on victims of financial fraud
19:00 | Examples of transnational organized crime in Southeast Asia
27:00 | Operation Shamrock’s efforts to educate, seize, and disrupt cybercriminals
34:00 | Erin West explains how hackers use SIM swaps to gain access to financial accounts
38:00 | The dangers of crypto and the importance of authenticator tools for security
40:00 | The power of raising awareness through media coverage and public attention
45:00 | Why a unified global response is the only way to combat pig butchering scams
52:00 | Erin’s advice for potential victims of fraud
Resources Mentioned:
- Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - February 25, 2024: Pig Butchering
- UNODC Report:Transnational Organized Crime in East and Southeast Asia
- NY Times Story: 7 Months Inside an Online Scam Labor Camp
- Operation Shamrock
- Erin West on LinkedIn
About our Guest:
Erin West is one of the leading voices in transnational organised crime prevention and a passionate advocate for the rights of victims of financial crimes, particularly those affected by pig butchering.
As the Deputy District Attorney in Santa Clara County in the state of California, she collaborates with detectives and prosecutors as part of the REACT task force to investigate and address cyber-enabled crimes. Erin is on a mission to improve the practical support available for the most affected vulnerable victims through her latest initiative, Operation Shamrock.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 4: The Truth About Illicit Activity and Analytics in Crypto (pt. 2 of 2)
Season 1 · Episode 4
vendredi 29 mars 2024 • Duration 31:23
“The fact that criminals now, a decade and a half into this ecosystem existing, can still successfully launder on a public ledger is kind of horrifying”
In this sequel episode of "Seize & Desist," Aidan Larkin is back with cybersecurity expert Carole House to continue their discussion on the challenges and potential solutions surrounding illicit finance in the crypto sector.
They delve into the decentralized nature of crypto, address the persistent underestimation of cyber threats posed by state-sponsored actors such as North Korea and examine the challenges inherent in our existing countermeasures against the sophisticated use of cryptocurrency in ransomware-as-a-service models.
They also touch on the centralized nature of stablecoins, the importance of responsible innovation and the need for the crypto industry to step up when it comes to compliance.
Timestamps
2 | Carole’s major role in public sector policy in crypto and background
13 | Blockchain analytics firms only capture a floor of illicit activity, not the ceiling
20 | The effectiveness of regulations in combating crypto-related crimes
26 | The ongoing debate of surveillance tools and a decentralised crypto society
31 | Lack of regulation and industry responsibility internationally
35 | Info sharing and other lessons from cybersecurity
Resources Mentioned:
- Estimating illicit financial flows resulting from drug trafficking and other transnational organized crimes (UNODC 2-5% stat source)
- Congressional Hearing: Crypto Crime in Context Part II: Examining Approaches to Combat Illicit Activity
- Counter-ransomware initiative (International Counter Ransomware Initiative (CRI) -)
- Book: Investigating Cryptocurrencies (by Nick Furneaux)
- Book: Currency Cold War (by David Birch)
- Podcast: The Lazarus Heist (by Geoff White)
- Podcast: Unchained (By Laura Shin)
- Book: The Cryptopians (By Laura Shin)
- Podcast: Bankless (By Adams and Hoffman)
About our Guest:
Carole House is a cybersecurity and risk management specialist with a background in U.S. military intelligence.
Throughout her decorated career, she has held several senior positions in the government, including Senior Cyber and Emerging Tech Policy Officer at the US Treasury; Head of Virtual Assets at FinCen and Director of Cybersecurity and Secure Digital Innovation at the White House. In these roles, she spearheaded initiatives to strengthen digital infrastructure and counter cyber-enabled national security threats.
Carole currently serves as the Executive in Residence at Terranet Ventures, where she advises start-ups and non-profits on strategies to protect against emerging cyber threats.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 3: The Truth About Illicit Activity and Analytics in Crypto (pt. 1 of 2)
Season 1 · Episode 3
jeudi 21 mars 2024 • Duration 40:17
“Blockchain analytics firms only capture a floor of illicit activity, not the ceiling”
In this insightful episode of "Seize & Desist," Aidan Larkin hosts cybersecurity expert Carole House for a rich discussion on the complexities of digital assets, cryptocurrency, and the pressing issue of ransomware. As a veteran in the field, Carole shares her unique perspective on the growth of crypto-related crime and the importance of debunking myths surrounding illicit finance statistics.
Carole and Aidan navigate through the thorny subject of quantifying illicit activities within the blockchain, how misinformation about these metrics can undermine efforts in combating crime, and the role of regulatory institutions like FinCEN.
Stay tuned for Part 2, where the duo address the persistent underestimation of cyber threats posed by state-sponsored actors such as North Korea, and the challenges inherent in our existing countermeasures against the sophisticated use of cryptocurrency in ransomware-as-a-service models.
Timestamps
2 | Carole’s major role in public sector policy in crypto and background
13 | Blockchain analytics firms only capture a floor of illicit activity, not the ceiling
20 | The effectiveness of regulations in combating crypto-related crimes
26 | The ongoing debate of surveillance tools and a decentralised crypto society
31 | Lack of regulation and industry responsibility internationally
35 | Info sharing and other lessons from cybersecurity
Resources Mentioned:
- Estimating illicit financial flows resulting from drug trafficking and other transnational organized crimes (UNODC 2-5% stat source)
- Congressional Hearing: Crypto Crime in Context Part II: Examining Approaches to Combat Illicit Activity
- Counter-ransomware initiative (International Counter Ransomware Initiative (CRI) -)
- Book: Investigating Cryptocurrencies (by Nick Furneaux)
- Book: Currency Cold War (by David Birch)
- Podcast: The Lazarus Heist (by Geoff White)
About our Guest:
Carole House is a cybersecurity and risk management specialist with a background in U.S. military intelligence.
Throughout her decorated career, she has held several senior positions in the government, including Senior Cyber and Emerging Tech Policy Officer at the US Treasury; Head of Virtual Assets at FinCen and Director of Cybersecurity and Secure Digital Innovation at the White House. In these roles, she spearheaded initiatives to strengthen digital infrastructure and counter cyber-enabled national security threats.
Carole currently serves as the Executive in Residence at Terranet Ventures, where she advises start-ups and non-profits on strategies to protect against emerging cyber threats.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
Ep. 2: FATF Special: Inside the World of Financial Crime and Asset Recovery
Season 1 · Episode 2
mercredi 13 mars 2024 • Duration 37:04
“If it doesn't bang or bleed, no one's doing anything about it.”
In this episode of "Seize & Desist", Aidan Larkin sits down with David Lewis, Managing Director and Global Head of AML Advisory at Kroll, former Executive Secretary of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) and leading figure in the battle against global financial crimes.
They address the notorious 1% statistic, the challenges of cross-sector collaboration and explore how seized asset recovery efforts can be improved within FATF guidelines, delving into the need for effective communication, the appointment of accountable figures, and the need for urgent reforms with broader strategies that extend beyond current standards.
Timestamps
1 | David’s background and FATF’s mandate
5 | What is the 1% stat and why is asset recovery challenging
12 | FATF’s renewed focus on asset recovery and creating a minimum standard
18 | Should the Public Sector leverage Private Sector companies to assist with seizures
22 | Improvement of Government resources towards fighting financial crime
28 | The real cost of financial crime and good examples of how to combat it
Resources Mentioned:
- RUSI website
- FATF website
- FATF plenary highlights
- GLOBAL COALITION TO FIGHT FINANCIAL CRIME (GCFFC)
- Amendments to the FATF Standards to Strengthen Global Asset Recovery
- AR Blog: FATF’s Trailblazing Asset Recovery Standards
About our Guest:
David Lewis (Managing Director and Global Head of AML Advisory at Kroll) and the former Executive Secretary of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), the intergovernmental organization that sets standards for AML/CFT globally.
As a highly respected leader in the fight against financial crime, David has played a pivotal role in coordinating international efforts to combat money laundering money laundering, terrorism financing and weapons proliferation. He has been instrumental in the development and implementation of policies to identify and mitigate risks associated with financial crime.
Disclaimer
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed.
Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.









