Radical Research Podcast – Details, episodes & analysis

For years (yes, we've been doing this a while now), various Radical Research listeners around the globe have asked us, "When is the Dark Millennium episode coming?" For Hunter, this would have been an easy answer: Anytime! For Jeff, a crash course in this interesting, challenging, wholly unique band was in order. Having boned up on the details, Jeff joins Hunter and those RR freakazoid listeners in hailing this band's first two albums, which we dissect readily in this episode. Tangents on Therion and graphite included...

Note I: Finally, after years of toil, Jeff’s Voivod book is finally available. Taking pre-orders now for this 540-page, 3-pound behemoth…'Always Moving: The Strange Multiverse of

Voivod' is ONLY available HERE: https://www.radicalresearch.org/voivod

Note II: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast Note III: We are regularly posting newer and older episode to our Youtube channel. Please check that out here and please subscribe if you wanna aid in getting all our coverage into more people's feeds: https://www.youtube.com/@radicalresearchpodcast4942

Music cited in order of appearance: “Below the Holy Fatherlands” (Ashore the Celestial Burden, 1992) “Spiritual” (Ashore the Celestial Burden, 1992) “Inside the Sunburnt Thoughts of Frost” (Ashore the Celestial Burden, 1992) “The Atmosphere” (Ashore the Celestial Burden, 1992) “Dead in Love” (Diana Read Peace, 1993) “Brotherhood Sleep…Back to Treasureland” (Diana Read Peace, 1993) “Fatehistory” (Diana Read Peace, 1993) “Peace in My Hands” (Diana Read Peace, 1993) episode 137 preview: Brand X, “Not Good Enough…See Me!” (Product, 1979) Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

Listener and friend Paul Stolp prompted this conversation/episode, mentioning how he thought a “course correction” episode would be fun. What is a course correction? Paul offered the example of Judas Priest’s Ram it Down being the wipeout and Painkiller being the glorious correction. Naturally, this got our gears turning, and this is the conversation that resulted. As Hunter notes in this episode, “a course correction is not necessarily an achievement, but more that you got back on your path.” (Driving mishap analogies abound in this episode.) And we want to hear from you: what are YOUR favorite examples of the Course Correction? Note I: Finally, after years of toil, and then a tragedy, Jeff’s latest book (Always Moving: The Strange Multiverse of Voivod) is finally available. We're taking  pre-orders now for this 540-page, 3-pound behemoth…ONLY available HERE: radicalresearch.org/voivod

Note II: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast Note III: We are regularly posting newer and older episode to our Youtube channel. Please check that out here and please subscribe if you wanna aid in getting all our coverage into more people's feeds: https://www.youtube.com/@radicalresearchpodcast4942

Music cited in order of appearance: Celtic Frost, “Dance Sleazy” (Cold Lake, 1988) Celtic Frost, “Nemesis” (Vanity/Nemesis, 1990) Leviathan, “True Whorror” (True Traitor, True Whore, 2011) Leviathan, “Dawn Vibration” (Scar Sighted, 2015) Savatage, “Lady in Disguise” (Fight for the Rock, 1986) Savatage, “24 Hrs. Ago” (Hall of the Mountain King, 1987) Deadboy and the Elephantmen, “Misadventures of Dope” (We Are Night Sky, 2006) Dax Riggs, “Didn’t Know Yet What I’d Know When I Was Bleedin’” (We Sing of Only Blood or Love, 2007) episode 136 preview: Dark Millennium, “Mechanismeffects” (Diana Read Peace, 1993) Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

2023 marks the 40th anniversary of Voivod, a band that are at the very heart of everything we do at Radical Research and everything we listen to as incorrigible music obsessives. In celebration, Voivod released Morgoth Tales, which finds the Mark V lineup (Snake, Away, Chewy, Rocky) covering songs from various past eras. For ourselves, we pay tribute by offering our longest and most in-depth episode yet, while also celebrating a landmark of our own. We invite all chaosmongers, nothingfaces, cockroaches and diehards across the schizophere to join us in celebration of the one, the only, the eternal VOIVOD!!!

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The reason for this relaunch of this episode is simple: Jeff's Voivod book ('Always Moving - The Strange Multiverse of Voivod') is imminent! You can reserve your copy of this 3 lb., 540-page behemoth here and ONLY here: radicalresearch.org/voivod/

Note II: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We offer tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast

Music cited in order of appearance: [all Voivod except where otherwise noted] intros from War and Pain, Killing Technology, Angel Rat, The Wake “Experiment” (Dimension Hatröss, 1988) “Blower” (War and Pain, 1984) “Ripping Headaches” (Rrröööaaarrr, 1986) Carnivore, “Carnivore” (Carnivore, 1985) “Forgotten in Space” (Killing Technology, 1987) Cave In, “Decay of the Delay” (Jupiter, 2000) “Cockroaches” (Killing Technology, 1987) “Psychic Vaccum” (Dimension Hatröss, 1988) “Brain Scan” (Dimension Hatröss, 1988)

Wartech, “Virtual Reality” (demo 1991) “Missing Sequences” (Nothingface, 1989) “Into My Hypercube” (Nothingface, 1989) “Inner Combustion” (Nothingface, 1989) King Crimson, “Larks’ Tongues in Aspic, Part Two” (Larks’ Tongues in Aspic, 1973) “Nuage Fractal” (Angel Rat, 1991) Alchemist, “Escape from the Black Hole” (Organasm, 2000) “Clouds in My House” (Angel Rat, 1991) Die Kreuzen, “Best Goodbye” (Cement, 1991) “Best Regards” (Angel Rat, 1991) “Freedoom” (Angel Rat, 1991) “Horror” (Rrröööaaarrr, 1986) Rush, “Natural Science” (Permanent Waves, 1980) Van Der Graaf Generator, “Man-Erg” (Pawn Hearts, 1971) “Moonbeam Rider” (The Outer Limits, 1993) “Time Warp” (The Outer Limits, 1993) “Phobos” (Phobos, 1997) “Temps Mort” (Phobos, 1997) “Neutrino” (Phobos, 1997) “Aware” (demo for unrealized 10th album, 2000) “Facing Up” (Voivod, 2003) “Divine Sun” (Voivod, 2003) “Polaroids” (Katorz, 2006) “Corps Etranger” (Target Earth, 2013) “Iconspiracy” (The Wake, 2018) “Always Moving” (The Wake, 2018) “Quest for Nothing” (Synchro Anarchy, 2022)

Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the liste

Led by the estimable Percy Jones on bass and supported by a cast of elite co-conspirators, England's Brand X released a covey of essential fusion albums in the '70s and early '80s. Blending rock and jazz with uncommon aggression and dexterity, Brand X cuts across genres and decapitates rivals. Join us on this deep dive into one of fusion's oft-overlooked champions.

Note I:

Jeff’s Voivod book, Always Moving: The Strange Multiverse of Voivod, is finally available. Taking orders now for this 540-page, 3-pound behemoth…ONLY available HERE: radicalresearch.org/voivod

Note II: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast

Music cited in order of appearance: “Nuclear Burn” (Unorthodox Behaviour, 1976) “Smacks of Euphoric Hysteria” (Unorthodox Behaviour, 1976) “Disco Suicide” (Moroccan Roll, 1977) “Macrocosm” (Moroccan Roll, 1977) “Access to Data” (Masques, 1978) “The Ghost of Mayfield Lodge” (Masques, 1978) “Don’t Make Waves” (Product, 1979) “Dance of the Illegal Aliens” (Product, 1979) “Act of Will” (Do They Hurt?, 1980) “Fragile” (Do They Hurt?, 1980) “Triumphant Limp” (Do They Hurt?, 1980) Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

“And she became a completely different woman…” With that line, Italy’s Monumentum sums up the Radical Research Christmas spirit circa 2025. Supernatural hokum or divine prophecy told by madmen? Either way, screw all this shopping nonsense and screw your reason for the season: this 1995 album by one of the most enigmatic of all Italian enigmas blasts a blasphemous light on everything sacred. And we, here, right now, at the end of a year that began in torture, shine a light. We don’t celebrate anniversaries -- not of the musings of Mammarella & company nor of the birth of the bastard child. Still, we acknowledge the 30 years this uncanny album has sustained us in a way no other can. Note I: Jeff’s Voivod book, 'Always Moving: The Strange Multiverse of Voivod,' is now available. You can purchase a copy of the 540-page, 3-pound behemoth...Available HERE: radicalresearch.org/voivod

Note II: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast Thank you to Rob Kachluba and Joe for recent donations! Note III: Any mention of John Norum and the Monumentum song “Terra Mater Ofranorum” are purely coincidental.

Music cited in order of appearance: all snippets taken from Monumentum, In Absentia Christii (1995), except where noted Visage, “Fade to Grey” (Visage, 1980) “Battesimo: Nero Opaco” “A Thousand Breathing Crosses” “Consuming Jerusalem” “Fade to Grey” “On Perspective of Spiritual Catharsis” “Σελυνης αγγελος” “From These Wounds” “Terra Mater Ofranorum” “Nephtali” “La Noia”

Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

It has taken light years of travel, but we’ve finally reached Arcturus. For our 140th episode, Radical Research dives into the catalog of one of Norway’s longest-running institutions. Over the course of five full-length albums and a clutch of odds and sods, Arcturus has defined and redefined the possibilities of experimental heavy metal. This episode goes all-in, exploring the entire body of work of this beacon of Norweird. Note I: We wondered who released the second Arcturus album, La Masquerade Infernale, in the US, and it turns out, no one did until 5 years after its initial release (Candlelight Records, 2002).   Note II: Jeff’s Voivod book, ‘Always Moving: The Strange Multiverse of Voivod,’ is finally available. You can purchase a copy of the 540-page, 3-pound behemoth HERE: radicalresearch.org/voivod Note III: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast Note IV: we touched on Arcturus in these episodes, if you’re wanting more on these legends: Episode 76: Ulver’s Kristoffer Rygg Outside the Wolfpack https://www.radicalresearch.org/episode-76-ulvers-kristoffer-rygg-outside-the-wolf-pack/Episode 79: Simen Hestnaes aka ICS Vortex – 25 Years of Agility and Quirk https://www.radicalresearch.org/episode-79-simen-hestnaes-aka-ics-vortex-25-years-of-agility-and-quirk/

Music cited in order of appearance: “My Angel” (My Angel 7”, 1991) “Morax” (My Angel 7”, 1991) “Icebound Streams and Vapours Gray” (Constellation EP, 1994) “Naar Kulda Taar” (Constellation EP, 1994) “To Thou Who Dwellest in the Night” (Aspera Hiems Symfonia, 1996) “Du Nordavind” (Aspera Hiems Symfonia, 1996) “Master of Disguise” (La Masquerade Infernale, 1997) “Ad Astra” (La Masquerade Infernale, 1997) “Deception Genesis” (Disguised Masters, 1999) “Kinetic” (The Sham Mirrors, 2002) “For To End Yet Again” (The Sham Mirrors, 2002) “Evacuation Code Deciphered” (Sideshow Symphonies, 2005) “Hufsa” (Sideshow Symphonies, 2005) “Angst” (Arcturian, 2015) “Demon” (Arcturian, 2015) “The Journey” (Arcturian, 2015) Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

When we first announced this episode several weeks back, we received several queries from listeners all around the globe who phrased their questions similarly: "Realm? The Milwaukee Realm?": Oh yeah, freaks, the one and only. Near and dear to our hearts, as with other Wisconsin RR favorites Die Kreuzen and Last Crack, this one-hour and 14-minute episode explores, expounds and exhorts the mighty Realm…the Milwaukee one!

Note I: NO JOKE: if you can identify another Wisconsin band referenced in the description above, and explain the reference, RR will send you a Norweird prize package of CDs by Arcturus, Fleurety, Solefald, and Virus. Contact us if you decipher the code… Note II: We forgot to mention “Dick”! We had a blast recording this episode and listening back to the great Realm. And we turned over a lot of stones, but left this one unturned: “Dick”! It’s a song on Suiciety, and it’s easily the worst idea on either of the Realm albums. In fact, it’s the only truly lamentable moment. And really, it’s only the horrid chorus the ruins things. It’s an M.O.D.-wanna-be, and…well, it should be self-explanatory why it’s lame. Otherwise: HAIL REALM. Note III: Finally, after years of toil, Jeff’s Voivod book is finally available. You can purchase a copy of the 540-page, 3-pound behemoth…ONLY available in the US HERE: radicalresearch.org/voivod European distribution is here, please visit: https://rekviem.no/en-us/products/always-moving-the-strange-multiverse-of-voivod-book-preorder Note IV: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast Music cited in order of appearance: “Second Coming” (Perceptive Incentive demo, 1985) “The Temple” (Final Solution demo, 1987) “Endless War” (Endless War, 1988) “Slay the Oppressor” (Endless War, 1988) “Root of Evil” (Endless War, 1988) “Eleanor Rigby” (Endless War, 1988) “All Heads Will Turn to the Hunt” (Endless War, 1988) “Cain Rose Up (Scream Bloody Murder)” (Suiciety, 1990) “Fragile Earth” (Suiciety, 1990) “Energetic Discontent” (Suiciety, 1990) “The Brainchild” (Suiciety, 1990) “La Flamme’s Theory” (Suiciety, 1990) “One More Red Nightmare” (demo, 1992) Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

If this conversation seems easy, it's because we are back in the cold waters of our favorite nation. Herein, we dig into the good deeds of Norway's often vexing but always pleasing The 3rd and the Mortal. We attempt to peel away the band's many layers and untangle its knotty evolution. Should you care about cutting-edge Norweird - and if you have stuck with us for all this time, surely you do - please join us on this most titillating conversation. Note I:

After all that flugelhorn talk, turns out Jeff mis-horned. It’s actually a crumhorn on Gryphon’s Red Queen to Gryphon Three album. A crumhorn!

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The Ulver song title we were trying to remember: “I Love You, but I Prefer Trondheim (Parts 1-4) (A. Wiltzie vs. Stars of the Lid remix)” (from First Decade in the Machines, 2003)

Note III: The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast Note IV:

All past Radical Research episodes can be found here, where you can also find Jeff’s Peter Steele book, Soul on Fire…and more to come soon! Radicalresearch.org

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We are regularly posting newer and older episode to our Youtube channel. Please check that out here and please subscribe if you wanna aid in getting all our coverage into more people's feeds: https://www.youtube.com/@radicalresearchpodcast4942

Music cited in order of appearance:

“Ring of Fire” (Sorrow, 1994) “Why So Lonely” (Tears Laid in Earth, 1994)

“Death Hymn” (Tears Laid in Earth, 1994)

“In Mist Shrouded” (Tears Laid in Earth, 1994)

“Neurosis” (Nightswan, 1995)

“Commemoration” (Painting on Glass, 1996)

“Persistent and Fleeting” (Painting on Glass, 1996)

“Veiled Exposure” [two parts] (Painting on Glass, 1996)

“Stream” (In This Room, 1997)

“Sophisticated Vampires” (In This Room, 1997)

“Did You” (In This Room, 1997) “Zeppoliner” (Memoirs, 2002)

“Spider” (Memoirs, 2002)

Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.

part 1: In which Hunter is assigned a 7 Degrees of Separation task, with these parameters:  begin in Norwegian metal, end in Norwegian metal. Betwixt, he was free to roam. We start at Ivar Bjornson (Enslaved) and end with Morty Black (TNT). Hunter’s route is circuitous, but he did it. Good show, Radish! [We won’t reveal the entire chain here…you’ll just have to listen.]

part 2: In which we celebrate Uli Kusch. We don’t know when his birthday is. We aren’t celebrating an anniversary. And, thankfully, Uli Kusch didn’t just die. We are simply taking a brief look at a German drummer we have always appreciated and consider underrated in the grander scheme. We glance at a few snippets of his work in Mekong Delta, Helloween and Holy Moses, because it’s the right thing to do and the right way to do it.

Note I: Turns out, Hunter could’ve skipped a whole step! Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik have recorded together:  under both their names, they released Skuggsjá - A Piece for Mind & Mirror in 2016 and Hugsjá in 2018. But his assignment was seven degrees, not six, and he pulled through righteously. Note II: An unintentional link between this episode’s two parts: Uli Kusch now lives in Norway. We would love if he joined TNT and put more wheels within our other wheels within wheels. Note III: In the beginning of this episode we talk about the new Ulver book, Wolves Evolve. We urge all Norwegophiles to buy it here: https://www.indiemerchstore.com/item/90855

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Music cited, in order of appearance: part 1: Enslaved, “Mardraum” (Mardraum: Beyond the Within, 2000) Gorgoroth, “Incipit Satan” (Incipit Satan, 2000) Wardruna, “Hagal” (Runaljod - Gap Var Ginnunga, 2009) Exodus, “Pleasures of the Flesh” (Pleasures of the Flesh, 1988) Metallica, “Through the Never” (Metallica, 1991) TNT, “Desperate Night” (Tell No Tales, 1987) part 2: Mekong Delta, “The Gnome” (The Gnome [EP], 1987) Helloween, “Revelation” (Better Than Raw, 1998) Holy Moses, “Current of Death” (entire song) (Finished With the Dogs, 1987) Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it. This is Radical Research Podcast episode 54

We love to draw lines and conclusions. We hear links and threads where there may be none, or, on a good day, where we might just be onto something. And we love Norway, especially its music. Especially the weird metal stuff. And we have always found that the short life of Ved Buens Ende and the spirit of their sole album, Written in Waters (1995), lived on within the nutty realm of Virus’s Carheart debut (2003). We compare/contrast these two landmark Norweird albums and find that Carl-Michael Eide has a lot of really great things to answer for. Don’t take this one too seriously…even if we do. Note I: It truly all went weird on the back end. Hunter had to call in on his phone, a first...there was an issue with his laptop and microphone. As a result, Hunter sounds like he has either a lisp, a few missing teeth, or been shot full of novocaine. He makes his usual salient points with the expected degree of articulation you’ve come to expect. Thanks for suffering through it. Note II: Please consider donating if you listen to Radical Research often: https://www.paypal.me/rrpodcast We also have a webstore where you can find shirts, CDs, and books (more gear, music and literature to be added soon!): https://www.radicalresearch.org/shop/

Music cited, in order of appearance: Ved Buens Ende, “You, That May Wither” (Written in Waters, 1995) Virus, “Gum, Meet, Mother“  (Carheart, 2003) Ved Buens Ende, “Carrier of Wounds” (Written in Waters, 1995) Virus, “Be Elevator” (Carheart, 2003) Ved Buens Ende, “Coiled in Wings” (Written in Waters, 1995) Virus, “It’s All Gone Weird” (Carheart, 2003) Ved Buens Ende, “I Sang for the Swans” (Written in Waters, 1995) Virus, “Queen of the Hi-Ace” (Carheart, 2003) Ved Buens Ende, “Autumn Leaves” (Written in Waters, 1995) Virus, “Hustler” (Carheart, 2003) Jane’s Enslaved, “Fenris Size” (1988/1994) (our apologies to Enslaved and Jane’s Addition, and thank you Chris Maycock)

Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it. This is Radical Research Podcast episode 53.