Our Curious Amalgam – Details, episodes & analysis

The Antitrust Law Section's new Chair is a lawyer, professor, and author of countless books and articles, with decades of leadership experience in the Section. What changes will he bring? In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Puja Patel ask Steve Cernak about his unusual career path, the priorities and initiatives he is planning to pursue in his one-year term, and the legal trends that he believes will affect the Section's members and their clients. Listen to this episode to get to know Steve a little better as the leader of a global association of professionals in the fields of antitrust, competition, consumer protection, and data privacy law--and as a loyal baseball fan.

With special guest:

Steven Cernak, Partner, Bona Law PC

Hosted by:

Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and Puja Patel, A&O Shearman US LLP

Most agree that children's online privacy is important. But how should it be protected? Ryan Durrie, Associate Director of the Cordell Institute at Washington University in St. Louis, joins Christina Ma and Anora Wang to discuss how the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (or COPPA) protects online privacy today and how it could be reformed. Listen to this episode if you want to learn about the latest policy developments in online privacy.

With special guest:

Ryan Durrie, Associate Director, Cordell Institute at Washington University in St. Louis

Related Links:

Cordel Institute for Policy in Law and Medicine, Washington University in St. Louis, Comment to FTC on COPPA (Mar. 12, 2024)

Neil Richards, Woodrow Hartzog, & Jordan Francis, A Concrete Proposal for Data Loyalty (2023) 

Hosted by:

Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP and Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

Not many antitrust lawyers have a front row seat to competition law and policy around the globe. But have you met Krisztian Katona? Krisztian Katona, an international competition lawyer, speaks with Anora Wang and Jaclyn Phillips about the trajectory of his career, insights about competition law and trends, and how the ABA provides opportunities for international lawyers.

With special guest:

Krisztian Katona, Computer & Communications Industry Association

Hosted by:

Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP and Jaclyn Phillips, White & Case LLP

The 2010 FTC/DOJ Horizontal Merger Guidelines indicate that merger review should consider whether a proposed merger may lessen competition by eliminating a "maverick" firm that plays a disruptive role in the market to the benefit of consumers. But how do we know when a proposed merger involves such a maverick? In this episode, hosts Alicia Downey and Matt Reynolds talk with Baker Botts LLP partner and DOJ alumna Taylor Owings about what she thinks should be the defining features of maverick firms. Listen to this episode to learn more about the theory of "disruptive innovation," the maverick concept, and their potential roles in merger analysis.

With special guest:

Taylor M. Owings, Partner, Baker Botts LLP

Related Links:

Taylor M. Owings, "Identifying a Maverick: When Antitrust Law Should Protect a Low-Cost Competitor", 66 Vand. L. Rev. 323 (2013)

Clayton M. Christensen et al., "What Is Disruptive Innovation?", Harv. Bus. Rev., Dec. 2015

Edgewell Personal Care Company and Harry's, Inc. (FTC case page)

U.S. v. H&R Block, Inc., et al. (DOJ case page)

Check out two of Taylor's favorite board games:

Cyclades | Board Game | BoardGameGeek

Power Grid | Board Game | BoardGameGeek

And a card game that Taylor and Matt both enjoy:

Dominion | Board Game | BoardGameGeek

Hosted by:

Alicia L. Downey, Downey Law LLC and Matthew J. Reynolds, Partner, Huth Reynolds LLP

The Anti-Monopoly Law (AML) is China’s principal antitrust statute, as recently amended in August 2022, exactly 14 years after its inception. What has changed about China’s antitrust regime over the years? Steve Harris, respected practitioner and thought leader on Asian antitrust laws, speaks with Anora Wang and Christina Ma about his experiences with and perspectives of the AML, enforcement, and relevant agencies. Listen to this episode to learn about the significant developments of China’s antitrust law.

With special guests

H Stephen Harris Jr., Attorney at Law

Related Link:

American Bar Association Comments on Five Draft Provisions Implementing the Anti-Monopoly Law of China (August 18, 2022) 

Hosted by:

Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter and Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, & Katz

John Roberti, one of the founders of Our Curious Amalgam and a longtime leader in the ABA Antitrust Law Section, just wrapped up his term as co-chair of the committee that produces our weekly podcasts. Looking back, what does John think about the evolution of OCA and what does he hope will be his legacy? To find out, Christina Ma and Alicia Downey interviewed John for a special farewell episode. Listen to this episode for stories about the early days of OCA and John's unique take on what it means to be from Delco.

With special guests:

John Roberti, Partner, Cohen & Gresser LLP

Hosted by:

Christina Ma, Partner, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz and Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC

Tom Zych of Cleveland, Ohio has taken on the big job of chairing the Antitrust Law Section for the 2022-23 ABA year. Who is the Section's new chair and what makes him tick? In this episode Alicia Downey and Matt Reynolds talk to Tom about what he'll focus on during his term and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. Listen to this episode to get to know Tom and, as a bonus, meet Mark Butscha, who will serve in the important role of Counsel to the Chair.

With special guests:

Thomas F. Zych, Partner, Thompson Hine LLP and Mark R. Butscha, Jr., Partner, Thompson Hine LLP

Related Link:

ABA Antitrust Law Section - Home

Hosted by:

Alicia L. Downey, Downey Law LLC and Matthew J. Reynolds, Huth Reynolds LLP

A Denver jury recently acquitted defendants in the highly publicized third criminal trial involving allegations of price fixing in the chicken industry. What led to that not guilty verdict? Defense attorneys Rick Kornfeld and David Beller join Jaclyn Phillips and Christina Ma in a two-part series discussing the trials, strategy, and lessons learned. Listen to Part II today and hear Rick & David's reflections on the three trials--from simplifying complex themes to diversity in the courtroom.

With special guests:

Rick Kornfeld, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC and David Beller, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC

Hosted by:

Christina Ma, Partner, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, & Katz and Jaclyn Phillips, Associate, White & Case LLP

A Denver jury recently acquitted defendants in the highly publicized third criminal trial involving allegations of price fixing in the chicken industry. What led to that not guilty verdict? Defense attorneys Rick Kornfeld and David Beller join Jaclyn Phillips and Christina Ma in a two-part series discussing the trials, strategy, and lessons learned. Listen to Part I today and hear all about the allegations and evidence, how the case evolved over time, and reflections on this historic outcome.

With special guests:

Rick Kornfeld, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC and David Beller, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC

Hosted by:

Christina Ma, Partner, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, & Katz and Jaclyn Phillips, Associate, White & Case LLP

In a time of increased uncertainty surrounding antitrust issues, Section 8 of the Clayton Act and private equity firms have recently become two topics of interest. What are the implications of recent comments from enforcers on these issues? Ken Schwartz, antitrust partner at Skadden, joins Christina Ma and Jaclyn Phillips to discuss the current landscape around Section 8 as an enforcement tool and private equity transactions. Listen to this episode to hear more about what changes we may (or may not) see going forward.

With special guest:

Kenneth B. Schwartz, Partner, Skadden

Hosted by:

Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz and Jaclyn Phillips, White & Case LLP