Dr. Way has spent 40 years studying boys and uncovering the challenges they face as they navigate societal expectations of strength, autonomy, and self-reliance. Her research shows that these cultural messages undermine boys’ natural relational intelligence and hinder their ability to build and sustain deep friendships.
In this episode, Dr. Way dives into the critical role of relationships in mental health and human flourishing—not just for boys, but for all of us. She explains how cultural norms, rather than biology, shape male behavior and outlines practical steps parents and educators can take to nurture boys’ emotional and relational capacities.
Dr. Way also shares powerful insights from her research, including the wisdom of a 7th-grade boy who noted, “When we make things biology, we think we can’t change it.” This episode is a call to rethink how we support boys—and ourselves—in building the connections we all need to thrive.
Takeaways:
The stereotype of the self-sufficient man is damaging not only to boys but to society as a whole.
Boys are born with the same relational intelligence as girls, but cultural conditioning suppresses it over time.
To support boys, we need to normalize conversations about relationships and model emotional vulnerability.
Fostering deep connections can improve mental health and combat harmful cultural narratives about masculinity.
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Play is a powerful tool for parenting & child development.
Mr. Rogers once said “Play is serious learning” and “the work of childhood,” and we and our guest, Georgie Wisen-Vincent, couldn’t agree more.
That’s not to say or imply that play is serious or work in the way that most of adults think of “serious” or “work.” Rather, it’s to underscore the fact that play — as fun as it can be! — is not a frivolity. It’s not trivial or unimportant at all. In fact, it’s absolutely vital for health human development.
“Play is essential for long-term success,” Georgie says. Yet no one really teaches parents how to engage in & support their children’s play. In this episode, we share some fun, easy strategies you can use to play with your kids.
Takeaways:
Short moments of play can have significant developmental benefits.
Involving children in household tasks can be a form of play.
Play helps build emotional connections and communication skills.
Using play can make daily routines more enjoyable for families.
Children learn empathy and social skills through play. Repetition in play is crucial for neural development.
Children often express emotions through playful scenarios.
Pretend play allows children to process aggression safely.
Joining children in play can ease transitions from screens.
Nature provides a nurturing environment for play.
Incorporating play into daily life strengthens family bonds.
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Male Puberty Starts Sooner Than You Think
Thursday, January 2, 2025 • Duration 41:38
Modern male puberty starts sooner than you think.
Boys today may enter puberty as early as age nine. That’s why your 10-year-old’s mood swings might actually be linked to these new hormonal shifts. As Cara Natterson and Vanessa Kroll Bennett point out in their book, This Is So Awkward: Modern Puberty Explained, the first sign of puberty often comes with a slamming door.
Why Parents Miss the First Signs
Many parents aren’t ready for male puberty. Early physical changes can be subtle, and they usually appear just as boys begin seeking more privacy. According to Vanessa, it’s entirely possible you won’t notice the initial stages of puberty until your son’s behavior shifts dramatically.
When Your 10-Year-Old Acts More Like a Teen
Puberty hormones—mainly testosterone—don’t just change bodies; they shape moods, too. Sudden spikes are associated with outbursts and that well-known “swing to silence” so many adolescent boys display. Pediatrician Cara Natterson explains these hormone surges can escalate and crash within hours, and that emotional roller coaster is often what you see when your son acts like “a jerk.”
They Dislike the Swings, Too
Kids don’t enjoy these wild ups and downs any more than you do. Their brains are awash in hormones they don’t yet know how to handle, causing confusion and moodiness. In addition, boys’ emotional regulation skills aren’t fully developed, which is why parents, teachers, and other adults need to show empathy while holding them accountable.
Offer Room to Recover
“We have to give boys the benefit of the doubt,” Vanessa advises, emphasizing that many feel ashamed after a blow-up. By giving them space to cool off, then reconnecting later, you let them know there’s a path to re-enter the conversation without judgment.
Weathering the Adolescent Storm
It’s normal to feel grief, fear, and frustration as your son navigates puberty. Boys often distance themselves from parents during this time, which can feel like rejection. Don’t forget they usually “come back” after they’ve crossed the threshold into more mature adolescence.
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Tyler, a 16-year-old Texas boy, started struggling in middle school. Recess was no more. Classes were 90 minutes long. So, “he found it really hard to sit still in class,” says Julie Jargon, the Wall Street Journal Family & Tech columnist who interviewed Tyler for her series on boys and education. Now a high school student, Tyler suggests that “instead of making guys change the way they behave, maybe schools should change the way they’re structured.”
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Listen to Boys & Young Men
Thursday, December 12, 2024 • Duration 53:44
How often do we really listen to boys & young men?
Not nearly often enough! There’s been a lot of chatter lately about boys & young men, masculinity, and the growing gender gap in politics – and very little public input from boys & young men themselves. In this episode, Jen & Janet talk with Lance Walker, a 26 yr old man from Utah. Like so many males his age, Lance has learned that boys’ and men’s perspectives aren’t always welcome. As he says, “We are never given license to speak.”
We encourage you to listen as he describes his experiences in school (including being started on ADHD medication in 3rd grade) and in the world.
Takeaways:
Boys’ perspectives on masculinity are often overlooked.
There is a stigma associated with boys expressing their feelings.
Open dialogue about gender dynamics is essential.
Boys need to be included in conversations about their experiences.
Understanding the role of community in boys’ development is important.
Boys often feel shame in expressing their struggles.
The future of gender discussions requires sensitivity and awareness. The emotional journey of becoming a man is complex and often fraught with societal expectations.
Shame and responsibility are significant themes in discussions about masculinity.
Perceptions of men as threats can lead to feelings of fear and vulnerability.
Boys are often seen as needing to fit into a rigid educational model that may not suit them.
Cultural perspectives on masculinity can shape how boys view themselves and their roles in society.
Dialogue and understanding are crucial in addressing the challenges faced by boys and young men.
The importance of recognizing boys as human beings with their own experiences and emotions.
Educational systems may need to adapt to better engage boys in learning.
There is a need for more voices from young men in discussions about masculinity and societal expectations.
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Male Suicide & Mental Health: A Father’s Story of Love & Loss
Thursday, December 5, 2024 • Duration 51:43
We gotta talk about male suicide and mental health.
If you or someone you know is having suicidal thoughts, you can call the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline for help in the United States. Call 988 or 800-273-TALK (8255). The 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is open 24 hours a day, every day. Services are also available en espanol.
More than 39,000 boys and young men die of suicide in the United States each year. The male suicide rate is 4 times that of females’ – and that fact isn’t widely known. Although there’s been a lot of discussion of the youth mental health crisis and suicidal ideation in recent years, few people are talking about the fact that most of those who die of suicide are boys and young men.
Anthony Tricarico was one of them. He was a “beautiful shooting star,” a young entrepreneur who loved snowboarding and bought a Camaro at age 16. Anthony died by suicide earlier this year, at age 16 1/2. From the outside looking in, Anthony had it all: a loving family, lots of friends, great grades, talent, and personality. His death was a shock to the community, as people realized, “If this could happen to Anthony, it could happen to any of us,” said his father, Neal Tricarico.
Takeaways:
Autistic people/those on the autism spectrum are at increased risk of suicide
COVID-19 has had a profound impact on youth mental health.
There is often a disconnect between autism support and mental health services.
Support systems for families in crisis are often lacking.
Seasonal changes can significantly affect mental health.
Parental control is limited; love does not guarantee safety.
Community support can provide immense comfort during grief.
The importance of love and connection transcends loss.
Achievements do not equate to fulfillment in children.
Open conversations about mental health are essential.
Creating a movement can honor lost loved ones and raise awareness.
Grief can lead to profound spiritual growth and connection.
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Exploring the Gender Gap
Thursday, November 28, 2024 • Duration 49:48
If you heard anything at all about the 2024 U.S. presidential election, you likely encountered the term "gender gap."
More than half of female voters (53%) voted for Kamala Harris; more than half of male voters (also 55%) voted for Donald Trump. Among young voters, the gender gap was even more pronounced: 61% of women aged 18-29 voted for Harris, compared to 49% of males.
Societal and political gender gaps are widening in other countries as well. Mark Sutton, director of The Boys Initiative & author of How Democrats Can Win Back Men, joins us to explore the factors underlying the gender gap and ways we can help boys and men thrive alongside girls and women.
Takeaways:
The gender gap in voting reflects deeper cultural divides.
Men's issues are often overlooked in political discourse.
Human well-being should be a shared goal across genders.
Health disparities show men dying younger than women.
Political parties need to address the needs of all voters.
Support for women's health should not exclude men's health.
There is a growing discontent with both major political parties.
Unity among moderate voters can lead to positive change.
The future of gender representation is evolving positively. Support for women in leadership is crucial.
Local involvement in politics can make a difference.
Cultural backlash can lead to divisive movements.
Understanding different perspectives is essential.
The male vote plays a significant role in elections.
Engaging in conversations about gender is necessary.
Listening to others can foster better understanding.
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Navigating Youth Mental Health in the Digital Age
Thursday, November 21, 2024 • Duration 43:51
How can we support our boys’ well-being during a youth mental health crisis? How can we help them navigate life in this digital age?
Katey McPherson has been working on these issues for years. Since we last talked in 2019, she and others have helped the state of Arizona pass a bundle of laws intended to decrease youth suicide. She’s also helped countless schools, communities, and families learn how they can support youth mental health in the current digital age.
In this episode, Janet & Katey discuss:
How to keep kids safe (safer?) when using school-issued computers & other digital devices
Targeting of kids on social media and online gaming platforms
Kids’ online relationships
Tech tools to help you monitor your kids’ online activities
School shootings (and how we can prevent them)
Talking to kids about suicidal thoughts
Increasing the likelihood that your child will talk to you about tough things
Supporting youth mental health
Takeaways:
We are facing significant challenges affecting our youth’s mental health.
Legislative changes can lead to improved suicide prevention resources.
Parents must understand the limitations of school-issued devices at home.
Social media can exacerbate feelings of exclusion and anxiety in youth.
Community support is crucial in preventing school violence.
Suicidal ideation often precedes violent actions in youth.
Open communication about mental health is essential for parents.
AI is becoming a critical tool in monitoring student safety.
It’s never too late to implement changes in parenting strategies.
Youth need coping strategies to deal with emotional pain.
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Raising Boys Beyond the Man Box
Thursday, November 14, 2024 • Duration 41:27
Do you know what the “man box” is?
Your boys do, whether they know the term or not. The “man box” is the set of expectations, perceptions, and behaviors that are considered “manly” in our society.
In this episode, Jen, Janet, and Ted Bunch, Chief Development Officer of A Call to Men, explore the complexities boys face in a world that still clings to outdated ideas about masculinity. Ted shares his perspective on how we can empower boys to live authentically, develop respectful relationships, and move beyond the limitations of the “Man Box,” which often keep boys from becoming their true selves.
Ted Bunch
Together, they discuss ways parents and caregivers can help boys embrace their emotions, communicate openly, and understand the importance of consent. Ted also addresses tough topics, including the impact of pornography, the cultural confusion surrounding sexual consent, and how societal expectations can distort boys’ perceptions of masculinity. Through honest, practical conversations, this episode gives listeners the tools to support boys as they navigate these challenges and to foster connections that build character, respect, and self-awareness.
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Ted discuss:
How to help boys find and express their authentic selves
The pervasive “Man Box” and how to break free of it
Why boys struggle to define consent—and how to help
Pornography’s impact on boys’ relationships
Conversations dads and caregivers need to have with boys
Encouraging boys to recognize the effects of their actions on others
Understanding and addressing the impact of sexual abuse on boys
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A Call to Men — includes helpful information & data, as well as links to their programs
Yes, your son might seem smelly, messy, or downright disrespectful right now—none of which means he’ll stay that way, or that you’ve parented poorly. As Vanessa says, guiding boys toward kindness, empathy, and thoughtfulness is a winding road filled with bumps.
Respond, Don’t React
When tempers flare, remain calm. Give your son the space he needs, and circle back once he’s cooled down. Teach him about emotions in those quieter moments and seek additional help if needed. By walking alongside him, you’ll both be better prepared to handle the challenges—and rewards—of growing up.
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Your son may well be annoying, thoughtless, disrespectful, disorganized, smelly, and messy during puberty. None of that means he’ll end up that way as an adult. And none of it means that you’re doing (or have done) something wrong.
“The path to building kind, empathic, loving, thoughtful men is a very windy, bumpy road,” Vanessa says. “And at every step of the way, it can be really tempting to lose faith.”
“Right now, there is an antagonistic relationship between most parents & their kids around video gaming,” Dr. K says. “You think they need to cut back; they don’t think they have a problem. Then, as parents start to institute limits, children will try to undermine them. Even if you ‘win’ in this scenario, you lose.”
It’s more helpful, he says, to establish a collaborative relationship.
“It’s really essential that we, as parents & educators of boys, are preparing them to navigate the struggles within school,” says Dr. Todd (Jason) Feltman, author of Transforming into a Powerful Third, Fourth, or 5th Grade Navigator of School Success. “It’s not just the academic struggles but also the socialization, the physical and emotional struggles.”
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