Welcome to Michelle Ford Interviews – honest, entertaining conversations with the people shaping the way we live, think and connect.
Hosted by broadcaster, interviewer and content creator Michelle Ford, this podcast (and companion YouTube channel) brings you in-depth conversations with well-known celebrities, bestselling authors, broadcasters, entrepreneurs, campaigners, experts and remarkable people with extraordinary stories.
Since launching as Two Women Chatting in 2022, Michelle has interviewed hundreds of guests across 11 seasons, including Dame Kelly Holmes, Elizabeth Day, Gaby Roslin, Lisa Jewell, Donna Ashworth, Nicky Hambleton-Jones, Andrea McLean, Dame Prue Leith and many more.
Originally created to celebrate honest conversations around midlife, the podcast built an incredible community of listeners. But 11 seasons in, it was time for a refresh. Michelle Ford Interviews reflects where the show is today - opening the door to even bigger conversations and welcoming fascinating men as well as women from the worlds of entertainment, books, business, sport, television and beyond.
Expect thoughtful interviews about success, setbacks, reinvention, creativity, resilience, relationships, health, culture, current affairs and the stories behind the headlines. Whether you’re looking for inspiration, your next favourite book, or simply love hearing brilliant people tell their stories, there’s something here for you.
Book Club episodes feature chats with bestselling authors that also air on Thursday afternoons on Brooklands Radio.
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What would you do if you found a backpack containing thousands of pounds in cash?
That’s the moral dilemma at the heart of T.M. Logan’s gripping psychological thriller The Weekend - a story about friendship, secrets, temptation and how quickly everything can unravel when money enters the equation.
In this episode of Book Club | Michelle Ford Interviews, I’m joined by Sunday Times bestselling author T.M. Logan to talk about his latest thriller, The Weekend.
Six old friends head to a converted farmhouse in the Yorkshire Dales for a New Year’s Eve weekend. During a walk, they’re caught in a storm and take shelter in an old lead mine. There, they make an extraordinary discovery: a backpack containing more money than they’ve ever seen.
Of course, they know they should hand it straight to the police.
But as the storm continues and the weekend unfolds, temptation starts to take hold. Each of the friends has their own problems — debt, obsession, career worries and secrets — and suddenly that seemingly simple decision becomes much more complicated.
As cracks begin to appear in the friendships, The Weekend becomes a tense exploration of trust, betrayal, greed, friendship and the choices we make when we think nobody is watching.
T.M. Logan is the Sunday Times bestselling author of The Holiday, The Curfew, The Catch, The Daughter, Lies and 29 Seconds. His thrillers have sold more than three million copies in the UK and have been translated into more than 20 languages. The Holiday was selected for the Richard & Judy Book Club and adapted into a four-part television drama, while The Catch was also adapted for television.
In our conversation, we talk about the fascinating “what would you do?” dilemma at the centre of The Weekend, the psychology of temptation, whether we ever really know our closest friends, and why moral grey areas make such compelling thriller territory.
T.M. has said that the idea was inspired partly by his fascination with the choices people make when faced with a difficult moral dilemma - and by thrillers such as Scott Smith’s A Simple Plan.
The Weekend is out now in hardback, paperback, ebook and audiobook.
🎙️ About Book Club | Michelle Ford Interviews
Book Club | Michelle Ford Interviews brings you conversations with bestselling authors about their books, the stories behind them and the ideas that make us want to keep turning the pages.
The\is interview with T.M. Logan was first broadcast on Brooklands Radio.
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Book Club | Clare Mackintosh | It's Not What You Think
Tuesday, September 8, 2026 • Duration 25:04
What if everything you thought you knew about someone was wrong?
In this episode of Michelle Ford Interviews, Michelle Ford chats to bestselling author Clare Mackintoshabout her gripping new novel, It’s Not What You Think.
Clare Mackintosh is the internationally bestselling author of I Let You Go, I See You, Let Me Lie and The Last Party, renowned for her twisty psychological thrillers, compelling characters and stories that keep readers guessing until the very end.
Michelle and Clare talk about the inspiration behind It’s Not What You Think, the complexities of relationships and family, creating believable characters and why the truth isn't always quite what we expect.
We also delve into Clare's approach to writing suspense, how her background as a detective helps her plot the twists and turns that make her books so addictive, and what keeps readers turning the pages.
If you're a fan of Clare Mackintosh, psychological thrillers, crime fiction, mystery novels and gripping page-turners, this is a Book Club conversation you won't want to miss.
"It's got more twists and turns than an episode of Line of Duty"
📚 Book:It’s Not What You Think by Clare Mackintosh
🎙️ Interviewer: Michelle Ford
🎧 Podcast: Book Club | Michelle Ford Interviews
📻 First broadcast: Brooklands Radio
Listen now and discover more about Clare Mackintosh and It’s Not What You Think.
Book Club | Dame Stella Rimington | The Hidden Hand
Thursday, September 3, 2026 • Duration 18:15
📚 Dame Stella Rimington on The Hidden Hand
In this very special episode of Michelle Ford Interviews, Michelle revisits her first ever Book Club conversation, recorded in January 2025 with Dame Stella Rimington, the pioneering former Director General of MI5, about her final novel, The Hidden Hand.
The novel is a gripping contemporary spy thriller set partly at Oxford University, where a Chinese study centre is secretly recruiting students to steal valuable research and intellectual property. When the centre's new head discovers its sinister purpose, he turns to CIA agent Manon Tyler for help.
With her extraordinary career inside MI5 - including becoming the first woman to serve as Director General - Stella brought a unique authenticity to her espionage fiction.
What makes this interview particularly poignant is that Dame Stella sadly died in August 2025, aged 90, just seven months after this conversation was recorded.
It is therefore a privilege to be able to share one of her final conversations, in which Michelle talks to her about writing, espionage, her remarkable career and The Hidden Hand.
This interview marked the beginning of Michelle's Book Club on Brooklands Radio, where Michelle continues to chat to authors every Thursday afternoon.
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Publishers & authors: If you would like to submit a title for consideration for Michelle's Book Club, please email michelle@twowomenchatting.com.
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Book Club | A A Dhand | The Chemist & The Kingpin
Tuesday, September 1, 2026 • Duration 21:27
📚 A.A. Dhand on The Chemist & The Kingpin
In this episode of Michelle Ford Interviews, Michelle chats to Sunday Times bestselling crime writer A.A. Dhand about his gripping Idris Khan series, The Chemist and its explosive sequel, The Kingpin.
The Chemist introduces Idris Khan, a respected pharmacist in Leeds who dispenses methadone and knows far more about his patients - and the secrets they carry - than anyone might imagine. When his childhood sweetheart fails to turn up for her daily dose, Idris goes looking for her and finds himself caught in the middle of a dangerous turf war between Yorkshire drug cartels.
In The Kingpin, Idris is changed by what has happened to him. When his estranged brother Zidane arrives fresh out of prison with an audacious plan to take control of the drug trade across Leeds and Bradford, Idris faces an even bigger choice: walk away or become the very thing he's always feared - the Kingpin.
Michelle and Amit talk about crime, drugs, morality, family, the darker side of Yorkshire and the real-life experiences that helped inspire the novels. Having worked as a pharmacist himself, Dhand drew on what he witnessed during years working at the sharp end of community pharmacy to create the world of Idris.
If you love crime fiction, psychological thrillers, gritty British crime, Yorkshire noir and fast-paced, twisty storytelling, this is one to add to your listening list.
This conversation originally aired on Michelle's Book Club on Brooklands Radio, where Michelle chats to authors every Thursday afternoon.
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Book Club | Tiffany Crum | This Story Might Save Your Life
Monday, August 31, 2026 • Duration 19:54
📚 Tiffany Crum on This Story Might Save Your Life
In this Book Club episode of Michelle Ford Interviews, Michelle chats to debut author Tiffany Crum about her gripping thriller This Story Might Save Your Life - a twisty mystery, emotional love story and celebration of friendship all rolled into one.
Best friends Benny and Joy host a hugely successful podcast sharing funny, extraordinary stories of survival. They joke that they've been saving each other's lives since they first met. But when Joy and her husband Xander suddenly disappear, Benny finds himself at the centre of a police investigation - and suddenly their next survival story may be their own.
Michelle and Tiffany talk about friendship, podcasting, fame, secrets and the blurred line between the people we think we know and who they really are. And with the story combining a thriller with a love story, there’s plenty to discuss about relationships, loyalty and what happens when everything you thought you knew starts to unravel.
Tiffany also talks about her journey to becoming a published author and the inspiration behind this hugely engaging debut.
This conversation originally aired on Michelle's Book Club on Brooklands Radio, where Michelle chats to authors every Thursday afternoon.
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If you love thrillers, mystery novels, psychological suspense, book podcasts, stories about friendship and twisty page-turners, this is one to add to your listening list.
Authors/publishers email michelle@twowomenchatting.com for consideration on future Book Clubs
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Book Club | Robert Thorogood | The Mysterious Affair of Judith Potts
Sunday, August 30, 2026 • Duration 19:44
📚 Robert Thorogood on The Marlow Murder Club
In this episode of Michelle Ford Interviews, Michelle chats to bestselling author and screenwriter Robert Thorogoodabout his hugely popular cosy crime novel The Marlow Murder Club.
When 77-year-old crossword setter Judith Potts witnesses what she believes is a murder in the quiet Buckinghamshire town of Marlow, the police aren't convinced. So Judith decides to investigate herself - joined by two unlikely amateur sleuths, dog walker Suzie Harris and vicar's wife Becks Starling. Together, the three women form the Marlow Murder Club and set out to uncover the truth.
Michelle and Robert also talk about the hugely successful TV adaptation of The Marlow Murder Club, including seeing his characters brought to life on screen. The series stars Samantha Bond as Judith, alongside Jo Martin, Cara Horgan and Natalie Dew.
And, of course, there’s plenty of laughter - including a discussion about whether Judith, Suzie and Becks are essentially Marlow's answer to Charlie's Angels!
This conversation originally aired as part of Michelle's Book Club on Brooklands Radio, where you can hear new author interviews and book recommendations every Thursday afternoon.
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If you're a fan of crime fiction, cosy crime, mystery novels, book clubs or The Marlow Murder Club, this one is for you.
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Bowel Cancer | A Doctor’s Guide to Signs You Should Never Ignore | Dr Anisha Patel
Season 10 · Episode 12
Tuesday, April 21, 2026 • Duration 35:40
In this special bonus episode, Michelle Ford is joined by Dr Anisha Patel (@doctorsgetcancertoo), a doctor and patient advocate who shares her powerful first-hand experience of bowel cancer.
"There is a global epidemic of this and it's been in the news loads. There was a huge study in The Lancet recently where 27 out of 50 countries have seen this rise in the under 50s. And Cancer Research UK actually published figures that all cancers have risen by 24% since 1995 to 2019 and bowel cancer specifically has risen by 50 % in the last 25 years, which is just shocking really." Dr Anisha Patel
As we mark Bowel Cancer Awareness Month, this conversation shines a light on a growing and often overlooked issue - more younger people are being diagnosed, often without the typical risk factors.
Dr Anisha talks openly about her journey to diagnosis, the realities of navigating the healthcare system as both a doctor and a patient, and why we all need to be better at listening to our bodies and 'knowing our normal'.
⚠️ Why this matters
Bowel cancer is no longer just a disease affecting older people. Rates in under-50s are rising, and many are diagnosed later because symptoms can be missed or dismissed. Early detection is key - and awareness can save lives. The survival rate for bowel cancer is 90% if caught early enough. If you were born in 1990 or later your chances of getting bowel cancer have increased 4X.
🧠 What we cover in this episode
The rise of bowel cancer in younger people
Dr Anisha’s personal story and diagnosis
Why some patients don’t fit the “typical” risk profile
The importance of being listened to - and advocating for yourself
How lifestyle, environment, and genetics may all play a role - Dr Anisha talks about the importance of fibre in our diet
🚨 Symptoms not to ignore
Dr Anisha shares the key signs to look out for and an acronym to help you remember:
🎯 Key takeaway
Alex Partridge | ADHD and Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria
Season 10 · Episode 11
Tuesday, March 17, 2026 • Duration 29:28
Understanding Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria with Alex Partridge
In this bonus episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle speaks with Alex Partridge, host of ADHD Chatter podcast and author of Why Does Everybody Hate Me? Living and Loving with Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria.
Together they explore Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD) - an intense emotional response to perceived criticism or rejection that is commonly experienced by people with ADHD or autism. Alex shares personal insights into how RSD can shape relationships, self-confidence and everyday interactions.
What is Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria?
Alex explains that RSD is one of the most challenging aspects of living with ADHD. Even small comments or situations - like a boss asking for a quick chat - can trigger overwhelming anxiety and catastrophic thinking. These reactions are often rooted in years of criticism or misunderstanding during childhood.
The Emotional Impact
For many people, RSD can cause powerful emotional responses that feel disproportionate to the situation. Feelings of sadness, anger or panic can escalate quickly, creating a cycle of shame and regret once the emotional response has passed.
Relationships and Self-Perception
Michelle and Alex discuss how RSD can affect both personal and professional relationships. When feedback feels like a personal attack, people may react defensively or impulsively - quitting jobs, withdrawing from relationships or later apologising for emotional reactions they feel embarrassed about.
The People-Pleasing Trap
Alex highlights how many people with RSD develop people-pleasing behaviours in an attempt to avoid rejection. While it can feel protective in the moment, constantly prioritising other people’s needs can lead to unhealthy dynamics and difficulty setting boundaries.
Women and ADHDKey Takeaways
Anna Williamson | Emotional Intimacy, Family Conflict & Dating in Midlife
Season 10 · Episode 10
Tuesday, December 16, 2025 • Duration 42:11
In this warm, insightful, and laugh-out-loud episode, Michelle Ford sits down with presenter, counsellor, and podcast powerhouse Anna Williamson to explore one of midlife’s biggest topics: staying emotionally connected when life, family and festive chaos compete for your attention.
Anna shares how emotional intimacy and active listening keeps long-term relationships thriving, why communication is usually at the heart of every issue, and how understanding the “seasons” of life can help couples navigate natural shifts - even after decades together. They also talk about the highs, lows, and emotional dynamics behind shows like I’m a Celebrity and Celebs Go Dating, where Anna works as an ‘agent’, and what those televised moments can teach us about connection in real life.
With Christmas stress looming, Michelle and Anna dive into practical, compassionate strategies for avoiding conflict, setting boundaries, and staying emotionally connected to your partner. They explore how to find the spark again, how to handle tricky family dynamics without guilt, and why it’s important not to throw around the ‘D’ word. For those re-entering the dating scene in midlife, Anna offers empowering advice on embracing your worth, seeking companionship or romance, and approaching dating with confidence in your 40s and 50s.
Packed with humour, honesty, and actionable advice, this episode is a supportive, relatable conversation for anyone juggling relationships, family expectations, festive pressure, and the emotional load of midlife.
🎙️ Key Insights
Emotional intimacy is essential for healthy midlife relationships
Boundaries during the holidays protect your energy and wellbeing
Good communication is the root of strong connection
Women re-entering dating in their 50s are empowered and discerning
Finding joy in small moments helps ease Christmas stress
Self-care isn’t selfish - it’s the foundation of thriving relationships
Emma Bardwell | Why Fibre Might Be the Midlife Superpower You’re Missing
Season 10 · Episode 9
Tuesday, November 25, 2025 • Duration 32:21
In this fun, laugh-filled and genuinely eye-opening episode, Michelle Ford sits down with women’s health nutritionist Emma Bardwell to tackle one of the most underrated pillars of midlife wellbeing: fibre - the true unsung hero of women’s health. Between giggles over “poophoria” (yes, it’s a thing!) and some serious myth-busting, Michelle and Emma unpack why getting enough fibre and protein is essential - especially if you’re using GLP-1 weight-loss injections like Ozempic, Wegovy or Mounjaro. As Emma explains, these medications slow digestion, making fibre even more important for gut motility, nutrient absorption and long-term health.
Forget fibre’s dusty, boring reputation - this episode gives it a full glow-up. Through perimenopause and menopause, when hormones fluctuate and the gut becomes increasingly linked to mood, energy and resilience, fibre becomes a midlife powerhouse. Michelle and Emma explore how nourishing your gut supports immunity, mental wellbeing, metabolism and overall vitality, and why our midlife microbiome deserves centre stage. With Emma’s straight-talking, practical approach, you’ll learn simple, everyday ways to boost your fibre intake - no chia-seed obsession required.
By the end, you’ll never look at your plate (or your bowel movements!) the same way again.
🎙️ Key Insights
• Fibre lowers the risk of heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and colon cancer
• A high-fibre diet reduces inflammation and supports a stronger immune system
• Good gut health boosts brain health and emotional wellbeing
• Fibre may help remove microplastics from the body
• Protein + fibre is the midlife power combo - stabilising energy, supporting hormone balance and improving satiety
• Talking openly about gut health (and yes, poo!) helps normalise midlife wellbeing
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Connect with Michelle at twowomenchatting@gmail.com for collaborations, ideas, and comments! Remember to rate, review, and share our show to join the laughter-filled conversation about midlife empowerment and beyond...
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If something doesn’t feel right and it persists - get it checked - and don't ignore that NHS poop check. It only takes a second and could make all the difference.
You are never too young to know your body. Paying attention to changes and acting early can make all the difference.
🎧 Listen now to hear the full conversation and Dr Anisha’s powerful message on awareness, advocacy, and early detection.
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The conversation also touches on the unique challenges faced by women with ADHD, many of whom are diagnosed later in life. Alex emphasises the importance of giving women a stronger voice in the neurodiversity conversation, particularly around hormonal changes and how ADHD can present differently for women.
• Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria can trigger intense emotional reactions to perceived criticism.
• These reactions can create a cycle of shame that affects relationships and self-confidence.
• People-pleasing is a common coping strategy but can lead to unhealthy patterns.
• Women with ADHD often face unique challenges and are frequently diagnosed later in life.
Through his honesty and advocacy, Alex Partridge helps bring greater understanding to RSD and offers reassurance to anyone who has struggled with feeling overwhelmed by criticism or rejection.
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