Ever Forward Radio with Chase Chewning – Details, episodes & analysis

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Today I we sit down with psychotherapist and author Jessica Baum to explore how our earliest attachment patterns and trauma bonds shape the way we love, connect, and heal. Drawing from her groundbreaking new book SAFE: A Process for Creating Safe and Intimate Relationships with Yourself and Others, Jessica explains how the body stores implicit memory, why safety—not strength—is the gateway to healing, and how we can transform our nervous system responses to build secure, authentic relationships. Together, Chase and Jessica dive into the neuroscience of trauma healing, the difference between familiar love and real safety, the role of co-regulation, and how facing your own fears of abandonment can lead to the deepest peace and connection you've ever known.

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00:00 – Why we repeat unhealthy relationship patterns

02:00 – How childhood attachment and body memory shape love

04:00 – Safely feeling what we've suppressed

06:00 – When healing triggers hidden trauma

07:30 – Safety as the gateway to true healing

10:00 – The science of trauma healing and earned security

13:30 – Safe love vs. familiar love

15:30 – Vulnerability, intimacy, and doing the work

17:00 – Healing while single vs. within a relationship

18:00 – Finding anchors: people who help you feel safe

19:30 – Why we crave love even after pain

20:50 – Mistaking intensity for love and trauma bonding

23:30 – Starting the work and finding support

25:00 – How to "therapy yourself" and identify core wounds

27:00 – How trauma lives in the body

30:00 – The nervous system, polyvagal theory, and safety cues

33:00 – Understanding nervous system states (ventral, sympathetic, dorsal)

35:00 – Co-regulation and energetic connection

38:00 – How to recognize a trauma bond

41:00 – Learning to be safe alone

43:00 – Healing abandonment and generational patterns

47:00 – Revisiting childhood wounds without parents

50:00 – Parenting, awareness, and intergenerational healing

52:00 – "It's not your fault, but it is your responsibility"

54:00 – Talking to your inner child and resourcing safety

56:00 – Anchors, inner and outer, for emotional regulation

59:00 – Revisiting painful memories and integrating trauma

01:00:30 – How trauma healing improves physical health

01:03:00 – Compassion, memory, and changing your past

01:06:00 – The role of compassion in creating safe relationships

01:09:00 – The science and humility behind SAFE

01:13:00 – Redefining "Ever Forward": slowing down to heal

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In this high-energy episode, I sit down with Carl Daikeler, co-founder and CEO of BODi (formerly BeachBody), to uncover what it truly takes to stay fit, healthy, and motivated at any age—especially after 40. Carl shares the honest truth about hating workouts, why consistency trumps complexity, and how his own struggles inspired the creation of Shakeology and countless effective fitness programs. From breaking the myth of "more is better" to championing the power of 25-minute workouts, Carl explains how to build muscle, lose fat, and achieve longevity without perfection. He reveals how accountability, community, and mindset drive real transformation—and how the best way to help yourself might be by helping someone else. Whether you're looking to get shredded, manage weight over 40, or just finally stick to a routine, this episode is packed with practical, sustainable advice.

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00:00 – Intro and why this episode matters

01:18 – Carl's mission: help people get healthy with minimal daily effort

03:35 – The water ski test for longevity at 61

04:23 – Accountability: the real key to transformation

06:04 – Starting small: 100 squats, 50 pushups, save a life

07:53 – Why leading by example isn't enough—lead by invitation

10:22 – Carl admits he hates working out (and how he still does it daily)

13:09 – Shakeology: solving his own problem with vegetables

16:06 – The importance of quality and integrity in supplements

17:34 – The Body difference: short, effective workouts that stick

19:42 – Physical poverty: Carl's metaphor for neglecting your body

23:50 – Just show up: the spoon and starfish stories

26:12 – Why helping others makes you more accountable

27:18 – How Carl shaped company culture around health

30:25 – Reducing temptation: removing the sugar minefield

34:25 – Fitness by decade: what changes in your 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s

36:14 – Stop over-optimizing: why you don't need gadgets to succeed

37:30 – Power 90 to P90X: the foundation of scalable fitness

40:08 – Quantified vs qualitative health: how you feel matters

42:51 – Wine bottles to weights: Judy's lifestyle transformation

44:23 – Blue Zones, simplicity, and living past 100

45:47 – Carl's "secret sauce" for longevity: Don't quit

49:59 – Keeping it simple: what makes Body programs work

52:26 – Time under tension and progressive overload: the winning formula

53:22 – Fitness seasons: when to go hard, when to scale back

56:12 – The power of community and hybrid workout calendars

57:00 – Red flags in fitness: obsession with one modality

59:20 – Belvital: a hormone health game-changer for women

01:00:54 – New P90X Generation Next and what's coming in 2026

01:02:33 – Ever Forward

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Today we welcome spiritual teacher and mental health researcher Ishan Shivanand as he shares powerful wisdom from his new book The Practice of Immortality. Raised in a monastery in India, Ishan bridges ancient yogic science with modern mental health research. He reveals how practices like breathwork, mindfulness, and daily gratitude can help you overcome distractions, build resilience, and live with peace—without giving up the modern life you love. We also explore what true immortality means, why fear, competitiveness, and anger are the root causes of modern suffering, and how meditation can transform your relationship with yourself and the world.

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) The Practice of Immortality Through Meditation

(15:19) Exploring Immortality Through Self-Awareness

(24:38) Embracing Fear as a Tool

(34:28) Mastering Fear Through Breath Awareness

(42:06) Balancing Creation and Dematerialization

(52:10) Navigating Anger and Reality Shifts

(59:19) Rediscovering Ancient Wisdom Through Inner Peace

(01:14:36) Unlocking Life's Lessons Through Yoga

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If you're curious about meditation, struggling with stress, or simply seeking more balance, mindset, stress relief, meaning nd purpose in your life then this conversation offers timeless tools to elevate your mind, body, and spirit.

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What is the purpose of life? Does science have any claim to this question? For generations, many have concluded that evolution implies there is no overarching purpose to our existence. Life has no fundamental meaning. We are merely the accumulation of tens of thousands of intricate molecular accidents. Some scientists take this logic one step further: "The fact of evolution is … inherently atheistic… It goes against the notion that there is a God."

But is this true?

By integrating emerging principles from a variety of scientific disciplines—ranging from evolutionary biology to psychology—Yale Professor Samuel Wilkinson provides a framework of evolution that implies not only that there is an overarching purpose to our existence, but what this purpose is.

Closely related to purpose is meaning. What is the meaning of life? Based on the scientific data, it would seem that one such meaning is to develop deep and abiding relationships. At least that's what most people report are the most meaningful aspects of their lives. And our relationships that are most meaningful are those with our families, those with whom we share our genes. This is a function of our evolution. It is how we were created.

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) Evolution, Purpose and Human Nature

(08:22) Blending Science and Religion

(16:11) The Wonders of Evolution and Life

(27:26) Future Evolution of Human Culture

(34:28) Meaning of Human Nature and Life

(44:41) The Importance of Relationships for Happiness

(51:14) Exploring Other Interpretations to the Meaning of Life

(57:47) Importance of Interactions and Ever Forward

(01:02:35) Overcoming Weaknesses and Evolution

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About the guest: Samuel T. Wilkinson is Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Yale University, where he also serves as Associate Director of the Yale Depression Research Program. He received his MD from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. His articles have been featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal.

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Ever wondered how that wilted lettuce in the back of your fridge could be the unsung hero of your next meal? Join me as Carleigh Bodrug from "Plant You" drops by to unearth the transformative power of 'scrappy cooking'. By turning our kitchen scraps into culinary gold, we're not just spicing up our meals but also taking a stand against the global issue of food waste. Carleigh's creative kitchen mindset isn't just about tantalizing your taste buds; it's a journey towards sustainable living that nurtures our bodies and the planet.

As we peel back the layers of our dietary habits, Carleigh and I discuss the critical, yet often ignored, role of fiber in maintaining our health. It's time to shift the spotlight from protein to the unsung hero of our plates – fiber. Sharing our personal nutrition paths, this conversation invites you in to reflect on how the foods we choose can impact not just our own vitality, but the ecological footprint we leave behind.

Rounding out our discussion, we serve up a feast of ideas for repurposing food scraps into delicious meals that will have you rethinking what you toss in the trash. From inventive ways to save spinach to whipping up a comforting 'clean-out-the-fridge' ramen, these kitchen hacks promise to elevate your cooking game. 

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) Revolutionizing Food Waste and Healthy Eating

(13:03) Importance of Nourishing Your Body

(16:16) The Importance of Fiber in Diets

(23:34) The Mind-Blowing Impact of Food Waste

(36:09) Improving Lifestyle Through Food Choices

(44:31) Innovative Scrappy Cooking

(53:19) Creative Ways to Reduce Food Waste

(01:03:39) Creative and Easy Cooking Ideas for First Date and Hangovers

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When stress knocks at your door, how do you answer? Jeff Krasno, the visionary behind "Good Stress" and CEO of Commune Media, joins me to unravel the intricacies of our body's response to stress and how, counterintuitively, it can be a powerful ally in our quest for wellness. We dissect the symbiotic relationship between cortisol—the misunderstood hormone—and eustress, revealing how the right kind of stressors can strengthen our resilience and propel us towards growth.

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) Understanding and Embracing Stress

(07:32) Understanding the Impact of Chronic Stress

(19:18) Exploring Health, Fasting, and the Role Mindset Plays on Managing Stress

(30:52) Navigating Difficult Conversations With Empathy

(41:04) Finding Connection and Managing Adversity

(49:10) Resistance Training and Mind Optimization

(59:44) Optimizing Stress for Your Health and Wellness

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Imagine carrying a relentless storm of anxiety, compelled by thoughts that clash with your core values—a reality for many living with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Joined by Stephen Smith, CEO and Co-Founder of NOCD, we confront the cold truth about OCD, unmasking the fears and secretive struggles that countless individuals endure. Gone are the misconceptions and casual stigmas; instead, our conversation serves as a beacon of understanding and a call to action for heightened awareness and empathy.

This episode offers firsthand narratives and expert insights into the labyrinth of OCD subtypes, from harm-based to relationship OCD. We discuss the transformative effect of specialized treatment, particularly exposure response prevention (ERP), and how it stands as a testament to hope for those grappling with this disorder. Stephen's journey with NOCD shines a light on the importance of immediate, accessible support, detailing how ERP is revolutionizing care by meeting people where they are, amidst their deepest fears.

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) Understanding OCD

(12:18) Understanding and Treating Different OCD Subtypes

(18:54) Understanding OCD and Effective Treatment

(26:51) OCD Treatment and Co-Morbid Conditions

(34:38) Improving Access to OCD Treatment

(39:45) Accessing OCD Treatment With NoCD

(48:43) Access NoCD Resources for Mental Health

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Unlock the secrets of the mind with Peter Crone, the "mind architect" renowned for his transformative insights, and experience a shift in consciousness that could forever alter your perception of personal limitations. Our conversation will challenge everything you know about the subconscious barriers that dictate your life's trajectory. Join us on a journey through the deepest realms of self-awareness, where we confront the survival mechanisms that hold us back and embrace the boundless potential within.

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In this episode we discuss...

(08:18 - 09:33) Understanding and Cultivating Confidence

(16:13 - 17:07) Unpacking Forgiveness

(35:12 - 37:04) Identity Formation Through Childhood Experiences

(38:50 - 39:54) Power of Choice and Quantum Connection

(53:05 - 54:24) How to Consciously Overcome Obstacles

(57:22 - 58:22) Fitness Analogies and Self-Acceptance

(01:04:05 - 01:05:28) Staying Present and Enhancing Focus

(01:09:37 - 01:10:43) Emotional Attachment to History and Identity

(01:17:07 - 01:18:10) Self-Reflection and Growth

(01:21:34 - 01:23:33) Ever Forward

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Ever felt like your brain could use a jumpstart to break free from the mundane? Jeff Karp, PhD joins me to unravel the marvels of neuroplasticity and the transformative LIT method. Together, we dissect the brain's innate ability to shift from a state of lethargy to one brimming with creativity and action. Dr. Karp, a pioneer in regenerative medicine, shares his expertise on restoring our bodies to peak function and equips us with practical tools to energize our minds. From the healing embrace of nature to redefining our relationship with fear and failure, we delve into habits that can significantly enhance our cognitive and emotional landscape.

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) What Is Neuroplasticity?

(15:11) Mindfulness and Intention MATTER

(25:40) Benefits of Nature Connection 

(30:42) Unlocking Potential Through the LIT Method

(36:59) Rediscovering Life After Obstacles and Maintaining Priorities Through Adversity

(41:55) Unlocking Potential Through Small Steps

(52:29) Practicing Gratitude and Disrupting Patterns

(01:02:28) Innovative Technologies in Healthcare and Healthspan 

(01:10:54) Navigating Failure and Radical Simplicity

(01:24:33) Ever Forward

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Ever wondered how the teeming world within our gut impacts everything from our mood to our metabolism? Today, we sit down with microbiome expert Dr. Colleen Cutcliffe, PhD to explore the hidden universe of our gut health. We unravel the complexities of the microbiome, emphasizing the importance of bacteria, viruses, and fungi in metabolizing the food we eat. Colleen shines a light on the common misconceptions about probiotics, prebiotics, and postbiotics, and why selecting high-quality supplements is crucial for optimal gut health. Together, we investigate the powerful influence of gut health on metabolic control and discuss the surprising connection between our gut and brain through the gut-brain axis.

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In this episode we discuss...

(00:00) Basic Understanding Gut Health and Microbiome

(13:17) What to Look For When Supplementing; What Works and What is a Waste of Your Money

(16:50) Innovation (or lack thereof) of Gut Health Standards

(24:16) Most Important Microbiome Strains

(34:52) The Connection Between Gut Health and Metabolism

(45:52) Gut Health Impact on Mental Well-Being

(55:43) Gut Connection to Neurological Diseases

(58:59) Ever Forward

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