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Dare To Un-Lead

Dare To Un-Lead

Céline Schillinger

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Frequency: 1 episode/13d. Total Eps: 13

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Because the role of leadership is changing, we now need new leadership skills. What if unleading was one of them? Let’s explore the apparent paradox, the new leadership development strategies required, and examples of these new leadership skills. Let’s hear from some of the sharpest change agents and thought leaders of the world: people involved in systems thinking, teamwork design, community engagement and volunteer mobilization. Their insights challenge everything we think about leadership. They help create new possibilities for employee engagement and performance improvement. We can collectively transform leadership from top-down hierarchies to empowered people leading together. We can build workplace cultures that encourage action, workingwell, autonomy, and accountability. 


Will you dare to un-lead? 


Links:

Website weneedsocial.com/

Twitter twitter.com/CelineSchill

Mastodon https://mastodon.social/@CelineSchill

LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/celineschillinger

Instagram instagram.com/dare_to_un_lead/

YouTube youtube.com/c/CélineSCHILLINGER

Amazon Author Page amazon.com/author/celineschillinger

 

Get the book

-        Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Dare-Lead-Relational-Leadership-Fragmented/dp/1773271822/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0

-        Indigo https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/dare-to-un-lead-the/9781773271828-item.html

-        Powell's https://www.powells.com/book/dare-to-un-lead-the-art-of-relational-leadership-in-a-fragmented-world-9781773271828

-        We Need Social https://weneedsocial.com/the-book

 


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The Voice of the Shopfloor: professionals Lavanya Madhuri Sethu & Luis Maldonado

Season 1 · Episode 12

mardi 11 juillet 2023 • Duration 40:06

How to engage frontline workers? When the shop floor is seen as a partner in transformation, amazing results ensue. This bonus episode builds on the experience of Luis Maldonado, who works on the shopfloor in a US vaccine manufacturing facility, and Lavanya Madhuri Sethu, whose Quality Assurance work in India involves interacting with the shopfloor. So much to learn from these two change leaders!


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links. 


Connect with Luis Maldonado and Lavanya Madhuri Sethu on LinkedIn



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Creating together the future we want: author & relational activist Peter Block

Season 1 · Episode 11

mardi 27 juin 2023 • Duration 43:36

How does community engagement serve our human needs, improve organizations and transform leadership? Author Peter Block has long been exploring relationships that enable collective action. In this moving conversation, he answers my questions around community building at work, (un)leadership, and about the opportunity we all have to get involved in creating together the future we want.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links. 


More about Peter:

Learn about Peter Block on his Wikipedia page

Find out more on Peter’s website PeterBlock.com

Get in touch with Designed Learning, Inc. They offer training and consulting in Flawless Consulting and Community: The Structure of Belonging or Leader as Convener.

Read/listen to Community: The Structure of Belonging by Peter Block. It is available as an audiobook 

Watch Peter Block speak about the Six Conversations that matter to build community among citizens

Watch this 2018 Weaving Influence webinar about Community with Peter Block

Read any book by Peter Block, you won’t waste your time :)



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The Fallacy and Failure of Leadership: Work Anthropologist Stowe Boyd

Season 1 · Episode 2

mardi 21 février 2023 • Duration 34:04

We need to debunk leadership – often, a toxic set of obsolete behaviors. How to end our addiction to this model? Work anthropologist Stowe Boyd analyzes what’s going on in organizations and in society. You will learn about control, governance and democracy at work; the “woowoo” that fails to engage people; and promising new operating models. Our conversation opens unconventional ways to approach work in a changing world.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


Connect with Stowe on Medium https://stoweboyd.medium.com/ and Mastodon https://mastodon.social/@stoweboyd@toolsforthought.rocks and Twitter https://twitter.com/stoweboyd and LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/stoweboyd/ 



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Change in the Workplace: Living Organizations Thinker Myron Rogers

Season 1 · Episode 1

mardi 21 février 2023 • Duration 36:04

You just can’t “fix” an organization. Orgs are living systems, not machines. So how do we change them? Systems thinker Myron Rogers, an author and advisor in large scale social change, explains how to best approach transformation work in today’s organizations. You will learn about change principles that help improve corporate culture, quality, patient or customer care.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


Connect with Myron on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/myronrogers/ and on Twitter https://twitter.com/myron_rogers 



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Trailer - Introducing the Dare To Un-lead Podcast

Season 1

mardi 7 février 2023 • Duration 03:34

Goodbye leadership? In a fast changing world, we must reinvent how we lead. After a landmark book, this podcast explores ways by which organizations, executives but also any worker can transform collective work and achieve better outcomes. Join Celine Schillinger’s guests as they unravel old beliefs and offer new ways of leading - or unleading! 


Curious to know more? 




  • Get in touch with me



See the show notes for quotes, more info and links.


This podcast is produced by Lagor Services - Business Podcast Experts: https://www.lagorservices.com/


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Learning From Movements: Change Strategist Helen Bevan

Season 1 · Episode 10

mardi 13 juin 2023 • Duration 38:18

Strategize change from a social movement perspective: Helen Bevan’s approach to health and care improvement at the NHS UK has inspired me and many other change agents greatly across the world. An advocate for new power, agency and connections, a mega-influencer and a generous knowledge curator on line, Helen describes in this episode her practice and how it has changed over the years.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


More about Helen:

Watch Helen speak about Power for Change on YouTube

Follow Helen Bevan on Twitter and LinkedIn

Follow Helen’s cat Rolf on Twitter

Sign up to the School for Change Agents 



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Shaping Great Corporate Cultures: Strategic Advisor Jennifer Sertl

Season 1 · Episode 9

mardi 30 mai 2023 • Duration 39:09

Good leadership turns random collectives into high-performing teams, by enabling trust and collaboration. Strategist, author and advisor Jennifer Sertl shares thoughts on how to develop a culture of chosen togetherness and humane performance at work, for we desperately need workplaces in which people can thrive. Purposeful workplaces with a soul, which we can be passionate about.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


More about Jennifer:


Read Jennifer Sertl’s article “The usefulness of being human or intuition is our killer app” in Troublemakers: Trends & advice from nexxworks & friends about surviving and thriving in turbulent times (Nexxworks, Dec. 2022) 


Watch Strategy, Leadership and the Soul on YouTube 


Read Strategy, Leadership and the Soul: Resilience, Responsiveness and Reflection for a Global Economy - find it on Amazon 


Connect with Jennifer on the Agility3R website, on Twitter @jennifersertl, by email and on Medium 


Listen to the 360 Pulse Podcast and the ThinkBuildLaunch Podcast both hosted by Jennifer Sertl. 

I was interviewed by Jennifer about Dare to Un-Lead in March 2023 here (Apple podcast) here (Podcaster) and here (YouTube)




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Social collaboration at work: digital communicator Sharon O'Dea

Season 1 · Episode 8

mardi 16 mai 2023 • Duration 37:07

So. many. workplace tools. For better work, really? Or mental overload, low productivity, disengagement? Sharon O'Dea has immersed herself in online communications since she was a teenager. Now an award-winning digital strategist and a powerful voice on effective communications, Sharon explains what it takes to foster effective collaboration and create an optimal employee experience. An experience that is enhanced, not ruined, by digital tools.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


More about Sharon:

Learn about 300 Seconds – Sharon’s initiative in favor of public speaking skills in under-represented populations, to increase a diversity of perspectives in digital conferences

Run the DWXS survey among your employees to collect their insights and improve your digital workplace

Watch and learn more about Sharon in this conversation with Tom McCallum on WhatComesNext.Live

Watch Sharon speak with Hanna Karppi about human-centred future of work (Camp Digital 2022)

Read about Sharon’s views on AI here

Connect with Lithos Partners

Get in touch with Sharon O’Dea on her website and on Twitter and LinkedIn and Instagram


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Thriving in the Wirearchy: Network Trailblazers Jon Husband & Harold Jarche

Season 1 · Episode 7

mardi 2 mai 2023 • Duration 44:27

Networks change how we work, lead and even think. Is hierarchy replaced by “wirearchy”? What new skills do we need to master? 25 years ago, Jon Husband was one of the first to perceive the transformational effect of networks on work and business; Harold Jarche envisioned that they require a new form of literacy. Leading figures of the "future of work," Jon and Harold discuss the implications of the networking phenomenon on our lives in the office and beyond.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


For more on Jon Husband and Harold Jarche:


Read Jon Husband’s ebook Wirearchy - Sketches for the Future of Work (2015) 

Watch Jon Husband’s talk at SocialNow Lisbon (2019): “Wirearchy: Strengthen Your Organisation by Creating Stronger Connections” 

Read Harold Jarche’s Perpetual Beta e-book series and subscribe to his blog 

Register for a Personal Knowledge Mastery (PKM) workshop hosted by Harold Jarche 

Read the books & articles mentioned in our conversation, as well as Jane McConnell’s The Gig Mindset Advantage: Why a Bold New Breed of Employee Is Your Organization s Secret Weapon in Volatile Times (2021)  


Connect with Jon Husband on Twitter and on LinkedIn  

Connect with Harold Jarche on Twitter and Mastodon and on LinkedIn 




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The Gender Balance Advantage - Storyteller & Change Advocate Susan Scrupski

Season 1 · Episode 6

mardi 18 avril 2023 • Duration 37:31

Can we work together as equals when old social, gender hierarchies still pervade the world of work? Leadership skills now include self-awareness, humility, empathy and storytelling, says Susan Scrupski. A model of resilience herself, Susan explains what it takes to shape workplaces where people feel equally respected.


See the show notes on my website for quotes, more info and links.


More about Susan Scrupski:


Learn about Change Agents Worldwide here https://changeagentsworldwide.com/ and on Pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/chagww/ & Slideshare https://www.slideshare.net/chagww 

Connect with Susan Scrupski on Twitter, on Instagram and on LinkedIn 



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