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OrgDev with Distinction
Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch
Frequency: 1 episode/19d. Total Eps: 85

The Org Dev podcast is all about Organisational Development, a practice that has the power to transform organisations, shape cultures, and empower individuals. Yet, it's often shrouded in mystery and misunderstood. But fear not, because on this podcast, we pull back the curtain to reveal the inner workings of Organisation Development. We demystify the concepts, unravel the strategies, and delve into the real-life experiences of professionals who are driving real and significant change and innovation within organisations.
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Operating models, organisation design and change with Roger Kastner of Starbucks - OrgDev Episode 36
Season 3 · Episode 2
vendredi 20 septembre 2024 • Duration 58:15
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How do you help an organisation reimagine new ways of working in order to achieve aggressive strategic goals? How do you create greater accountability in organisations? That is a difficult task in itself but even more challenging in an with over 350,000 employees. We're joined from Seattle by Roger Kastner, Organisation Design Strategy Lead at Starbucks and also Host of the "What Do you know to be true" podcast. It's a fascinating conversation as Roger shares his experiences, insights and stories from 25 years as a leading edge Organisation Development consultant
💼 About our Guest
Roger Kastner
Connect with Roger here: / roger-kastner
Follow the "What Do You Know To Be True" podcast here:
https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
Subscribe to the podcast here: / @wdyktbt
Roger Kastner is the Organization Development / Organization Design Strategy Lead at Starbucks, where he collaborates with leaders and teams to create innovative, high-performing work environments that support business success and employee well-being. With over 25 years of experience, Roger is known for his research-based approach that blends systems thinking, human-centered design, and co-creation to deliver impactful solutions in areas like strategy activation, leadership development, team effectiveness, and culture transformation.
In addition to his role at Starbucks, Roger is a skilled leadership coach, working with clients to help them overcome obstacles and reach their full potential. He is also the host of the What Do You Know to Be True? podcast, where he engages with everyday people who possess extraordinary talent and make meaningful contributions to the world.
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How to Build Exceptional Leadership Teams with Martijn Sjoorda - OrgDev Episode 35
Season 3 · Episode 1
jeudi 19 septembre 2024 • Duration 47:28
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How do you build an exceptional leadership team? How do you create enough psychological safety for teams to perform at their best? We tackled this and many other important questions in our fascinating conversation with practitioner Martijn Sjoorda, from System2
💼 About our Guest
Martijn Sjoorda, Founder, System2
https://system2group.com/
Connect with Martijn here:
/ martijnsjoorda
Email Martijn here:
martijn@system2.nl
Martijn Sjoorda is the founder and driving force behind System2, a pioneering consultancy that partners with progressive organizations to develop their leadership teams and deliver real transformation. With over two decades of experience, Martijn has built a reputation for helping executive committees and leadership groups tackle complex challenges through a unique approach that combines strategy and psychology.
Martijn's expertise is rooted in creating environments where psychological safety, productive failure, and productive conflict drive high performance. His philosophy rejects one-size-fits-all solutions, opting instead for highly tailored interventions that respect the specific context of each organization. He is known for facilitating difficult conversations, recognizing that addressing issues head-on is the only way to overcome the common frustrations of leadership teams: insufficient speed, lack of value delivery, and resistance to true transformation.
Martijn extensive experience and training allows to deeply understand the interplay of system, team, and personal dynamics, he identifies the smallest, most effective changes that yield the largest results.
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Facilitating Breakthrough with Adam Kahane - OrgDev Podcast Episode 26
Season 2 · Episode 26
jeudi 27 juin 2024 • Duration 40:56
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In this week's episode of the Org Dev podcast, our guest is Adam Kahane, a Director at Reos Partners and author of 5 books including Collaborating with the Enemy and Facilitating Breakthrough. Adam shared insights from his extensive experience in fostering collaboration across diverse groups, the essence of transformative facilitation and the importance of the role of facilitators in removing obstacles to enable effective communication and collaboration, rather than directing or manipulating outcomes.
Drawing from his work in over fifty countries and involvement in significant peacebuilding efforts this was another great conversation to be a part of and we hope you enjoy listening to this week's episode.
Adam Kahane
/ adam-kahane
Twitter: / adamkahane
You can follow Adam here and subscribe to his newsletter:
www.adamkahane.com
Adam Kahane is a Director at Reos Partners, a global social enterprise dedicated to fostering collaboration among businesses, governments, and civil society organizations to tackle complex challenges. As a prominent architect, organizer, and facilitator of collaborative processes, Adam has extensive experience working with a diverse range of stakeholders—including executives, politicians, military leaders, civil servants, trade unionists, cabinet ministers, community activists, clergy, and artists—in over fifty countries worldwide. His work spans critical areas such as education, health, energy, food, environment, security, development, governance, and peace.
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Power, Systems and Performance with Jeff Boudro - OrgDev Podcast 25
Season 2 · Episode 25
vendredi 21 juin 2024 • Duration 56:34
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In this week's episode of the OrgDev podcast we explore the fascinating world of organisational dynamics with Jeff Boudro, the Executive Director of Power & Systems, Inc. In this interview, Jeff reveals the secrets to transforming companies by effectively working with tops, middles, and bottoms. Learn how to enhance leadership, build resilient cultures, and unlock your team's full potential with insights from the company founded by the legendary Barry Oshry
Jeff Boudro
/ jeff-boudro-4440a66
Power + Systems Website:
https://www.powerandsystems.com/
Book an event with Power + Systems here:
https://www.powerandsystems.com/works...
Barry Oshry's Books:
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Jeff Boudro is the Executive Director of Power & Systems, Inc. A graduate of the renowned Power Lab and Master Certified in all Power & Systems workshops, Jeff has a proven track record of partnering with a diverse range of organizations to leverage Power & Systems workshops, fostering leadership at all levels, building strong organizational cultur
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Transactional Analysis and Organisation Development at Google with James Longwell - OrgDev Episode 24
Season 2 · Episode 24
vendredi 14 juin 2024 • Duration 54:35
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Why is it so common to see relationships in organisations where there is a parent/child dynamic? Why does this occur, and what can we do about it? To answer these questions we invited James Longwell from Google onto our podcast. James shared some fabulous insights about Transactional Analysis, his work with Google and his career with other big brand names. Another fabulous OrgDev conversation which we are sure you will enjoy.
💼 About our Guest
James Longwell
/ james-longwell-0108207
James Longwell is an accomplished Organization Development leader and coach, bringing extensive experience across a wide range of sectors, including automotive, logistics, consumer packaged goods, media, and digital/internet. Throughout his career, he has worked in various regions, including the UK/Europe, Asia, and Australasia, which has provided him with a rich and diverse professional background.
You can contact James about his Transactional Analysis courses or supervision here:
jamesalongwell@gmail.com
You can listen to the Transactional Analysis Podcast to understand more about TA here:
https://tapodcast.com/
During the conversation James references Functional Fluency. Here is the link to explore this further:
https://functionalfluency.com/about/f...
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Systems Thinking and Strategy for Leaders with Mike Jones - OrgDev Episode 23
Season 2 · Episode 23
vendredi 7 juin 2024 • Duration 01:08:22
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In the latest episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we were joined by the excellent Mike Jones, founder and director of LBI Consulting. In this brilliant conversation, Mike brings a unique combination of experiences from military leadership and elite sports teams to organisational psychology and systems thinking. Mike unpacks what we so often get wrong about military-style command and control and the critical role of system design in organisational operations.
Mike's journey is remarkable: he enlisted in the army at 16 without any qualifications, taught himself psychology and organizational studies, and became an instructor at Sandhurst. Determined to further his education, he wrote to every University in the UK to find one willing to allow him to formalise his learning.
💼 About our Guest
Mike Jones
/ mike-h-jones
LBI Consulting:
https://lbiconsulting.com/
Mike Jones is the founder and director of LBI Consulting, a firm that integrates organisational psychology, systems thinking, and extensive leadership experience to help organisations navigate complexity. LBI Consulting focuses on developing and aligning strategy, organisational design, and culture based on research and practical solutions.
As a leader, organisational psychologist, and systems thinker, Mike navigates the complexities of contemporary organisations by developing foresight, strategy, and alignment.
Mike's leadership journey includes extensive service in the British Army, where he led troops in challenging environments. His leadership skills earned him a position as an instructor at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, a globally renowned institution for leadership training, where he helped shape future military leaders.
Combining his military experience with his research as
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Building Organisational Health: Strategies for Success with Dr. Jonathan Westover - OrgDev Episode 22
Season 2 · Episode 22
vendredi 31 mai 2024 • Duration 50:19
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In the latest episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we were joined by Dr. Jonathan Westover all the way from Utah, USA who shared invaluable insights on how to cultivate a healthy and dynamic workplace. As a seasoned expert with a background that bridges academia and real-world practice, Jonathan brings a practical approach to making workplaces better and our conversation focuses on practical strategies leaders and HR professionals can use to improve company culture and employee engagement.
Dr. Westover emphasises the importance of ethical leadership and provides accessible advice on how to make complex academic research useful for everyday business challenges. Whether you're leading a small team or managing a large organisation, this episode offers essential tips and inspiring stories to help you create a more effective and fulfilling work environment
Jonathan's Podcast:
/ @innovativehumancapital
Dr. Jonathan Westover is a 4X #1 best-selling author, award-winning podcaster, and the top-ranked global thought leader in HR, Innovation, Leadership, Culture, and Future of Work (Thinkers360). Ranked #21 in Organizational Culture and #19 in Management globally by Global Gurus, he is also featured on LeadersHum's Power List of the Top 200 Voices in Leadership.
Founder and CEO of Human Capital Innovations, Dr. Westover hosts and produces shows on the HCI Podcast Network and serves as Chief Academic and Learning Officer of the HCI Academy. He is Chair and Professor of Organizational Leadership and Change at UVU's Woodbury School of Business and holds multiple leadership roles, including Academic Director of the Center for Social Impact.
An experienced OD/HR/Leadership consultant, Dr. Westover has transformed organizations worldwide. He is a CIPD Academic Fellow, HEA Senior Fellow, and Visiting Academic at Oxford's Harris Manchester College. His accolades include being a Fulbright Scholar, POSCO Fellow, and a Visiting Scholar at the Wilson Center. His work is widely published and cited in top media outlets like Forbes, The Economist, and The Wall Street Journal.
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A Practical Approach to Organisation Development & Change with Sarah Walsh - OrgDev Episode 21
Season 2 · Episode 21
vendredi 24 mai 2024 • Duration 53:23
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Welcome to our latest interview with Sarah Walsh, a leading expert in organisation development! In this episode, Sarah shares her refreshingly practical approach to helping organizations thrive. She emphasizes meeting clients where they are, making the complex world of organizational development accessible and understandable for everyone.
Sarah Walsh
/ sarahwalshl
Sarah Walsh is a dynamic Organizatioal Development (OD) Practitioner with a passion for people, culture, and change. Embracing the mantra "variety is the spice of life," Sarah thrives on working across multiple spaces to drive meaningful transformations within organizations.
Sarah's impressive credentials include an MSc in Organizational Behaviour from Birkbeck, University of London, and a CMI Level 7 Certificate in Strategic Management and Leadership. She is also a certified Prosci Change Practitioner, equipped with the skills to manage and implement change effectively.
Currently, Sarah serves as an Organizational Development Consultant at The Academy of Medical Sciences. She has held a number of change roles including the Lead Performance Consultant at Essex County Council. In these roles, she excels in leadership development, change management, and team coaching, helping organizations navigate and make sense of change. She brings strategies to life, ensuring they are not only implemented but also effectively integrated into the organizational culture.
In addition to her roles as an OD Practitioner, Sarah is a dedicated Workplace and Career Coach. She supports individuals through career moves and transitions, offering guidance and strategies for overcoming workplace challenges such as burnout and the complexities of new managerial roles. Sarah's holistic approach ensures that her clients feel supported and empowered to achieve their career goals.
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High Performance Teams with Dr. Krister Lowe - OrgDev Episode 20
Season 2 · Episode 20
vendredi 17 mai 2024 • Duration 56:35
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Our podcast this week is with the fabulous Dr Krister Lowe where we delve into achieving team excellence. Krister has dedicated his career to researching and developing teams across the globe, bringing a wealth of insights and expertise to our discussion.
Join us as we explore the transformative power of the 6 Team Conditions framework, which is built upon the foundation of best-in-class research by renowned social scientists Drs. Ruth Wageman and Richard Hackman, and discover how it can elevate your team's performance to new heights.
💼 About our Guest
Dr Krister Lowe
Chief Innovation Officer - 6 Teams Conditions
https://6teamconditions.com/
/ kristerlowe
Dr. Krister Lowe is the Co-founder and Chief of Innovation at www.6TeamConditions.com a groundbreaking platform focused on optimizing team performance. Renowned as the pioneer of the Team Coaching Zone Podcast at www.TeamCoachingZone.com, Dr. Lowe is also recognized as the Co-Editor of The Practitioner’s Handbook of Team Coaching, a trailblazing resource in the field.
With a background in Organizational Psychology, Dr. Lowe specializes in coaching top-tier and mission-critical teams, offering invaluable insights and strategies for enhanced collaboration and effectiveness. He is deeply committed to training team leaders and coaching practitioners, empowering them to navigate complex organizational landscapes with confidence.
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Evidence Based Practice: An Introduction with David Wilkinson, Oxford Review - OrgDev Episode 19
Season 2 · Episode 19
lundi 13 mai 2024 • Duration 59:19
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How do we take an evidence-based approach to organizational dynamics and leadership. Join us as we sit down with David Wilkinson, Editor-in-Chief of the Oxford Review, to explore the myths that pervade organisational life. From misconceptions about diversity, equality, and inclusion to the intricacies of leadership styles and decision-making processes, David offers a wealth of knowledge and insights. This engaging conversation is filled with thought-provoking discussions and practical takeaways that underscore the significance of evidence-based practices in driving organizational success. Tune in for a stimulating exploration of leadership and organizational effectiveness in today's ever-evolving landscape.
Dr. David Wilkinson
Editor in Chief, Oxford Review
/ oxfordreview
David Wilkinson serves as the Editor-in-Chief of the Oxford Review, recognized globally as an authority on navigating ambiguity and fostering emotional resilience. With an extensive background in academia, David imparts his expertise at prestigious institutions such as the University of Oxford, Cardiff University, and Oxford Brookes University School of Business. His consultancy and executive coaching services have left a mark on diverse organizations including Schroders and Royal Mail, while his impact extends to governmental entities worldwide, including the UK, US, and Saudi Arabia.
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