Beyond the Status Quo – Details, episodes & analysis

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Beyond the Status Quo

Kathryn Gorman & Tamara Zaple Rolfs

Business

Education

Frequency: 1 episode/15d. Total Eps: 21

Beyond the Status Quo is the podcast for purpose-driven changemakers. They are executive leaders and boards who are ready to question inherited systems. The world is shifting but many leadership models haven't caught up: we're still rewarding control over connection, certainty over nuance and status over substance.

Brave, values-lead leadership isn't just possible. it's already happening. And it's exactly what the world needs.

On this podcast, we bring together cross-sector voices who go beneath the surface to explore what meaningful change really takes - and what's already underway.

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Episode 1 - Curiouser and Curiouser with Shane Leaning

Season 1 · Episode 1

Thursday, September 18, 2025 • Duration 42:28

Summary

In this engaging conversation, Shane, Kathryn, and Tamara explore the themes of leadership, change management, and the importance of questioning the status quo in education. They discuss personal experiences with curiosity, humility, and the need for trust in leadership roles. The conversation also delves into the significance of listening to stakeholders, the effectiveness of different leadership styles, and the value of external perspectives in driving sustainable change. The discussion culminates in a call for curiosity and humility as essential traits for leaders navigating complex educational environments.

Their takeaways:

It's important to question the status quo in education.
Curiosity drives meaningful conversations and change.
Humility is a strength in leadership.
Trust is essential for effective leadership.
Listening to stakeholders fosters collaboration and trust.
Different leadership styles can be effective in various contexts.
Change management requires a community-aligned goal.
Questions can unlock deeper understanding and engagement.
The Double Diamond model offers a framework for change.
Learning from other cultures enhances educational practices.

Change can feel hard. If you're currently leading change or planning to do so, this conversation offers advice gained from experience and provides reassurance and helpful pointers so that you can do so thoughtfully alongside your community.

Wider reading and resources

Change Starts Here — ShaneLeaning.com

The Double Diamond - Design Council

Rebel Ideas: The Power of Diverse Thinking - Matthew Syed Consulting

Connect with Kathryn

LinkedIn: Kathryn Gorman FCCT | LinkedIn

Instagram: @this.is.clarion

Email: kathryn@clarioneducation.co.uk

Connect with Tamara

LinkedIn: Tamara Zaple Rolfs FCCT | LinkedIn

Instagram: @this.is.my.delta

Email: tamara@my-delta.co.uk

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Why Beyond the Status Quo? Why now?

Season 1

Thursday, September 11, 2025 • Duration 07:49

In this inaugural episode of Beyond the Status Quo, hosts Tamara Zaple Rolfs and Kathryn Gorman discuss the motivations behind launching the podcast, their shared interests in leadership, complex systems, and the importance of values in navigating change. They emphasise the need for curiosity and learning from diverse perspectives, particularly in a rapidly changing world.

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Episode 4 - Astrid Korin Leading with Purpose: From the Inside Out

Season 1 · Episode 4

Friday, November 28, 2025 • Duration 25:35

In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, hosts Tamara Zaple Rolfs and Kathryn Gorman discuss the importance of challenging the status quo in leadership, the dynamics of power in organisations, and the role of resilience and self-awareness in effective leadership with organisational coach and mentor, Astrid Korin. They explore how education shapes leadership styles and the necessity of creating psychological safety within organisations to foster growth and innovation. The conversation emphasises the need for leaders to be authentic, aware, and compassionate while navigating complex systems and challenges.

Key takeaways

Challenging the status quo can be subtle and collaborative.
Resilience in leadership is a continuous practice, not a goal.
Self-awareness is crucial for authentic leadership.
Education often perpetuates compliance rather than creativity.
Creating psychological safety is essential for effective leadership.
Power dynamics in organisations can hinder collaboration.
Leaders must support others to grow and learn.
Compassionate leadership does not equate to lowered expectations.
Awareness of human behavior is vital for effective leadership.
Unlearning compliance is necessary for thriving in the workplace.

You can find more information about Astrid's work and her course 'Inside Out' here Transformational coaching — Astrid Korin Coaching

If you are interested in the theory and practice of Psychological Safety, then the go-to text is here Psychological Safety – Amy C. Edmondson

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David Liddle - Host Reflections

Friday, November 14, 2025 • Duration 08:57

In this reflective conversation, Tamara Zaple Rolfs and Kathryn Gorman discuss their insightful podcast episode with David Liddell, focusing on the importance of translating theory into action within leadership and organisational culture. They explore the evolution of leadership towards integrative approaches that prioritize listening and valuing diverse voices, as well as the role of conflict in fostering positive change. The discussion emphasises the need for intentionality in creating a culture that aligns business needs with human values, highlighting the complexities and challenges leaders face in this endeavour.

Takeaways

Theory into action is essential for effective leadership.
Leaders must be culture architects, designing intentional workplace cultures.
Listening to diverse voices is crucial for conflict resolution.
Conflict can be a positive force for change.
Leadership today requires integrating various values and perspectives.
Creating a values-driven culture is complex and challenging.
Psychological safety is increasingly recognised in workplace dynamics.
Humanity should be central to organisational policies.
Business needs and people’s needs can coexist harmoniously.
Courage and bravery are necessary in questioning the status quo.

Useful Links

David Liddle. | The TCM Group

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Episode 2 - Challenging the norms in education with Wayne Norrie OBE

Season 1 · Episode 2

Friday, October 3, 2025 • Duration 46:53

In this insightful conversation, Wayne Norrie OBE, CEO of Greenwood Academy Trust, discusses his journey in education, emphasising the importance of challenging the status quo, community engagement, and the need for autonomy in schools. He shares his experiences of leadership, the significance of inspirational role models, and the systemic issues facing the education sector today. Wayne advocates for a focus on critical thinking and listening skills, highlighting the need for a more flexible and responsive education system that prepares students for a complex world.

Takeaways

Wayne Norrie is a rebel CEO advocating for underserved communities.
Challenging the status quo often starts from early life experiences.
Leadership should focus on place-based approaches rather than one-size-fits-all models.
Autonomy in schools is crucial for effective community engagement.
Engaging communities requires a bottom-up approach, starting from individual schools.
Inspirational leaders like Sue Campbell and Jacinda Ardern emphasise kindness and tenacity.
The education system needs to address systemic issues, particularly around SEND.
Positivity in education can be found in the classroom experience with students.
Schools must prepare students for a complex and rapidly changing world.
Listening is a vital skill that needs to be taught and practiced.

Further reading and resources

Greenwood Academies Trust - Home

Future of Education and Skills 2030/2040 | OECD

fedNationalEducationFutures - FED Education

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Shane Leaning - Host reflections

Wednesday, September 24, 2025 • Duration 08:28

In this conversation, Kathryn and Tamara reflect on their conversation with Shane Leaning and explore the significance of curiosity in leadership, discussing the barriers that prevent leaders from asking questions and the importance of creating a psychologically safe environment. They also delve into the double diamond model as a framework for collaborative problem-solving and the role of uncertainty in leadership.

Takeaways

Leaders need to be curious to guide change.

Time constraints hinder leaders from asking questions.

Leaders are often expected to have all the answers.

Empowering others is crucial for effective leadership.

Creating a safe environment encourages risk-taking.

Curiosity fosters trust within teams.

The double diamond model aids in collaborative solutions.

Uncertainty can create psychological discomfort.

A supportive culture is essential for open dialogue.

Leaders should focus on asking questions rather than providing answers.

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Episode 5 - Disruptive Leadership with purpose with Nick Osborne

Season 1 · Episode 5

Friday, December 19, 2025 • Duration 29:02

Summary

In this episode, Nick Osborne, the founding CEO of Maritime Academy Trust, discusses his journey in education, emphasising the importance of questioning the status quo, the role of humour in leadership, and the necessity of vulnerability. He shares insights on positive disruption in education, the significance of board support, and building trust within organisations. Nick encourages leaders to focus on their passions and highlights the need for honesty and openness in addressing challenges. The conversation concludes with a message of hope and the idea that everyone is navigating their paths, often making it up as they go along.

Takeaways

Questioning the status quo is essential for growth.
Humour can create bonds and foster honesty in the workplace.
Vulnerability is a powerful leadership trait.
Positive disruption is necessary for educational improvement.
Support from the board is crucial for implementing change.
Building trust requires honesty and openness.
Finding joy in work enhances resilience and effectiveness.
Education systems have more autonomy than often perceived.
Sharing failures is as important as celebrating successes.
Hope can be found in the freedom to pursue passions in education.

Links

Maritime Academy Trust - Home

Connect with Tamara

LinkedIn: (1) Tamara Zaple Rolfs FCCT | LinkedIn

Email: tamara@my-delta.co.uk

Megan Reitz- Spaciousness in a Noisy World

Season 1 · Episode 6

Thursday, January 15, 2026 • Duration 45:26

Spaciousness in a Noisy World — Episode Summary

In this episode, leadership thinker, researcher and author Megan Reitz joins us to explore what it means to create spaciousness in a world that feels increasingly frantic, noisy and attention‑hungry. Drawing on her research into mindfulness, speaking truth to power and the dynamics of attention, Megan reflects on how modern workplaces have become “pathologically busy” and why so many leaders struggle to pause, listen and make wiser choices. She ultimately invites us to rethink how we use our attention, how we define achievement, and how we might reclaim the space needed for more human, thoughtful leadership.

Takeaways

Spaciousness enables wiser, more grounded leadership.
Modern workplaces often confuse activity with effectiveness.
Our attention is constantly pulled, shaped and colonised by noise and urgency.
Leaders profoundly influence whether others feel able to speak up.
Psychological safety requires leaders to examine their own habits, not “fix” others.
Pausing is a radical act in environments addicted to speed and certainty.
Mindfulness helps create space between stimulus and response.
Intergenerational tensions often reflect broader societal pressures, not simple differences in attitude.
Success needs redefining beyond productivity and constant busyness.
Creating reflective space is essential for insight, connection and meaningful change.

Links

Megan Reitz

Connect with Tamara

LinkedIn:Tamara Zaple Rolfs FCCT | LinkedIn

Email: tamara@my-delta.co.uk

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