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The Evolving Role of the CHRO with C-Suite Whisperer John Touey

Wednesday, November 12, 2025 • Duration 41:52

What really determines whether a company thrives or unravels under pressure? According to John Touey, one of the country’s most trusted C-suite recruiters, it comes down to a single, often overlooked truth: the CEO, CFO, and CHRO form the power structure that governs the entire enterprise. If that trio isn’t aligned, nothing else works.

On this episode, AIIR Consulting CEO Dr. Jonathan Kirschner sits down with John — Managing Partner at Trilogy Talent Advisors and a masterful “C-suite whisperer” — to reveal what he’s seen across thousands of board conversations, CEO transitions, and high-stakes leadership searches. This conversation is a rare, behind-the-scenes look at what truly determines whether leaders succeed, stall, or never see the inside of the C-suite.

John breaks down how the CHRO role has transformed more in the past five years than in the previous fifty, how AI is reshaping the talent landscape in real time, and why behavior and culture fit are the ultimate predictors of executive success.

In this episode, we explore:

The Power Trio That Runs the Enterprise. Why the CEO–CFO–CHRO relationship is the heartbeat of organizational health — and the first place to look when things break.
The Real Reason Leaders Flame Out. Why even extraordinary executives fail when their leadership style clashes with the culture — and how to spot the mismatch before it happens.
The CHRO’s Rise to Strategic Power. How the pandemic — and now AI — vaulted HR from supporting role to enterprise architect.
AI, Talent, and the Future of Work. Why HR’s access to the richest data in the company puts it at the center of AI-driven transformation.
Courage as a Leadership Requirement. The CHRO as truth-teller, stabilizer, strategist — and often the only person willing to challenge the CEO.

If you care about leadership, culture, or the future of work, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss. To learn more about how AIIR Consulting can help your leaders navigate change and shape a better future, visit aiirconsulting.com.

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Staying Human in the Age of AI with Gideon Rosenberg from NVIDIA

Wednesday, October 29, 2025 • Duration 54:09

What does “human-first” leadership look like inside a company building the future of artificial intelligence? AIIR Consulting CEO Jonathan Kirschner and Joy Nissen sit down with Gideon Rosenberg — Deputy General Counsel and Head of HR for NVIDIA Israel — to explore how empathy and uncompromising standards can (and should) coexist.

Gideon offers a rare inside view into NVIDIA’s culture under CEO Jensen Huang, where people are empowered to “do their life’s work” and leadership begins with trust, not titles.

In this episode, we explore:

Inside NVIDIA’s Leadership DNA: How Jensen Huang’s mantra to “do your life’s work” fuels meaning, empowerment, and ownership — even in a $5 trillion company.
Empathy Meets Performance: The art of driving at warp speed without losing humanity — and what truly scales (and breaks) when expectations run high.
AI as a Leadership Catalyst: How artificial intelligence is reshaping decision-making, talent development, and the very definition of “leading through others.”
A New Playbook for People Leaders: Real-world guidance for CHROs and executives on re-skilling teams, building AI-ready cultures, and keeping trust at the center of change.

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Leading with Agility, Curiosity, and Care with Reese Haydon

Thursday, October 23, 2025 • Duration 36:14

In this episode of A Podcast About Leadership, Dr. Jonathan Kirschner sits down with Reese Haydon to explore what it takes to lead with agility, curiosity, and care in today’s fast-moving world.

Reese's career has included senior talent management roles at some of the biggest companies in the tech industry, including Cisco, Dropbox, and Salesforce, among others.

Drawing from his extensive experience, Reese offers a rare, insider’s view into how leadership must evolve across different organizational contexts. He and Jonathan unpack what distinguishes exceptional leaders in high-growth environments, how to balance innovation with structure, and why care may be the defining leadership capability of the AI era.

Listeners will learn:

Why agility and humility are essential traits for leaders navigating constant change
The most common leadership pitfalls in tech — and how to avoid them
How to balance experimentation with scale and stability
Why curiosity and care remain timeless differentiators, even in the age of AI

Reese also shares how he sees AI transforming leadership development, why hybrid intelligence (human + artificial intelligence) will shape the future of work, and how leaders can stay grounded amid disruption and paradox.

If you’re a leader, coach, or HR professional seeking to understand what great leadership looks like in an age of exponential change, this conversation will both challenge and inspire you.

Looking for more information about the leadership skills leaders need to succeed? Visit aiirconsulting.com.

Is Coaching Really That Different Than Therapy? With Dr. Davida Vogel

Friday, October 17, 2025 • Duration 45:09

For decades, executive coaching and psychotherapy have been treated as distinct disciplines — one focused on business performance, the other on unpacking unproductive patterns and personal healing. But, in recent years, the two have been creeping closer together. As they have, it has begged the question, are coaching and therapy really that different?

In this thought-provoking episode of A Podcast About Leadership, Dr. Jonathan Kirschner, clinical psychologist and CEO of AIIR Consulting, sits down with two of his fellow psychologists turned executive coaches, Dr. Joy Nissen and Dr. Davida Vogel, to explore how the worlds of clinical psychology and coaching increasingly overlap, how they strengthen one another, and why drawing a line between them actually matters.

Discover how coaches with backgrounds in behavioral science use methods from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), and other clinical approaches to help leaders clarify values, challenge unhelpful thinking, and achieve meaningful goals.
Understand why boundaries and confidentiality are essential to successful coaching, and how “setting the frame” early builds trust and alignment across every stakeholder involved.
Hear why the relationship between coach and client — the “working alliance” — is the single biggest factor driving results in both executive coaching and psychotherapy.
Learn how AIIR’s Strategic Development Plan and Developmental History Interview bring psychological depth and rigor to executive coaching, turning insights into real, lasting behavior change.
See how awareness, courage, and curiosity transform insight into action, helping leaders grow not only as professionals but as people.

Whether you’re a coach, psychologist, HR or talent leader, or simply curious about how psychology is reshaping leadership development, this episode offers research-based insights and real-world wisdom you can apply to your own growth— and the growth of those you lead.

Leading Cross-Functional Pharma Teams with Ian Wilcox and Megan Marshall

Wednesday, October 1, 2025 • Duration 50:14

In pharma, the barrier to progress isn’t usually the science—it’s how well leaders align brilliant, functionally deep experts to move an asset forward together. In this candid conversation, AIIR Consulting CEO Jonathan Kirschner sits down with Ian Wilcox (AIIR Advisory Board member; former Global Head of Life Sciences at HayGroup; executive advisor and investor) and Megan Marshall (Managing Partner, AIIR Consulting) to unpack what it really takes to lead in matrixed cross-functional teams—from early research through clinical, regulatory, manufacturing, medical affairs, and commercial.

Drawing on decades in the industry, Jonathan, Megan, and Ian explore why influence (not authority) is the #1 leadership skill in life sciences, why self-awareness is its essential counterpart, and how leaders make the identity shift from subject-matter expert to enterprise leader.

Key takeaways:

Influence beats authority. In life sciences, the #1 leadership skill is influencing across disciplines; self-awareness is the essential counterpart that makes influence land.
From SME to enterprise leader. High-caliber MDs/PhDs must shift identity from “proving I’m right” to orchestrating outcomes across matrixed cross-functional teams.
“Dual citizenship” mindset. Great leaders stay rooted in their function while developing curiosity and fluency in clinical, regulatory, manufacturing, medical affairs, and commercial.
Two meeting modes—be explicit. Superior leaders name when the team is in information-sharing vs decision-making mode and design debates to avoid sunk-cost bias.
Six enterprise behaviors that matter. Clear decision frameworks; transcend silos; manage tension/ambiguity; align incentives & metrics; provide strategic direction; drive collective understanding.
Set the stage, not just the agenda. Purpose, expectations, and “why you’re in the room” beat long decks and “functional imperial” updates that cause people to check out.
Industry pressures reshaping leadership. AI accelerating early discovery; tougher patient recruitment; platform/partnering models; and a disrupted commercial playbook demand new ways of working.

Rethinking the New Deal at Work with Wharton Professor Dr. Peter Cappelli

Monday, September 15, 2025 • Duration 49:50

Fifty years ago, it wasn’t uncommon for someone to spend their entire career at a single company, with a clear career path and the resources and training programs to give them the skills they needed to advance along that path. Today, that world has largely disappeared. Organizations hire to meet their needs, employees move on quickly, and the bonds of loyalty have dissolved in both directions.

Few people understand this transformation better than Dr. Peter Cappelli. Peter is the bestselling author of Talent on Demand, The New Deal at Work, Our Least Important Asset, In Praise of the Office, and countless other books on talent management and people strategy. He is the George W. Taylor Professor of Management at the Wharton School, Director of its Center for Human Resources, and one of the most influential voices in human resources.

In our latest episode of A Podcast About Leadership, Dr. Cappelli joins hosts Dr. Jonathan Kirschner and Dr. Joy Nissen to unpack the evolving relationship between employers and employees. In this incredible conversation, we cover:

How organizations shifted from loyalty and long-term development to transactional, market-driven talent decisions
The positive and negative effects of this shift on leaders
What talent leaders must do to rebuild trust and purpose inside their organizations
How to balance efficiency and agility with the need for human development

For CHROs and other senior talent professionals, this conversation is a candid look at the forces reshaping the future of work — and what it will take to design organizations that can thrive in the years to come.

Helping Leaders Navigate Uncertainty with AIIR Consulting CEO Dr. Jonathan Kirschner

Wednesday, August 6, 2025 • Duration 27:28

In this episode of A Podcast About Leadership, Dr. Jonathan Kirschner, founder and CEO of AIIR Consulting, explores the mindset and skillset leaders need to navigate uncertainty. As volatility and complexity redefine the workplace, Kirschner challenges traditional notions of resilience and offers a modern, science-backed approach to navigating ambiguity with confidence. Drawing on AIIR’s proven leadership framework, he shares practical tools for self-regulation, emotional agility, and strategic decision-making under pressure. From managing high-performing teams in turbulent times to turning disruption into opportunity, this conversation equips leaders with the insight to stay grounded, adaptive, and impactful—no matter what lies ahead. Whether you're a senior executive, HR leader, or talent development professional, this episode offers timely, actionable guidance for leading through uncertainty with clarity and purpose.

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Thriving Through Constant Change with Ian Wilcox and Dr. Joy Nissen

Thursday, December 11, 2025 • Duration 39:39

What does it take to lead when change is no longer episodic but constant and fluid? On this episode of A Podcast About Leadership, AIIR Consulting CEO Dr. Jonathan Kirschner sits down with Dr. Joy Nissen and Ian Wilcox to explore how leaders can stay grounded, resilient, and effective in a world where stability feels increasingly out of reach.

Drawing on careers in psychology, organizational science, and global consulting, Joy and Ian unpack why traditional change models no longer fit the moment. Today’s reality demands something different. Leaders must regulate their own energy, create stability for others, and guide organizations through uncertainty without pretending to have all the answers.

This conversation is a candid, deeply human look at what leaders are experiencing right now: fatigue, fragmentation, cognitive overload, and the pressure to perform amid ambiguity. More importantly, it offers a path forward.

In this episode, we explore:

Leading Self in a Fluid World — Why constant change pushes leaders into chronic stress, how that affects cognition and health, and the practices that rebuild resilience and presence.
Communication That Actually Connects — Why more information doesn’t equal more clarity, and how leaders can create psychological space, name what people are feeling, and strengthen trust through intentional communication.
The Contagion Effect of Leadership — How a leader’s physiology, mindset, and emotional regulation shape the entire system. What it means to lead from intention instead of tension.
Organizational Leadership in an Age of Uncertainty — Why strategy can no longer rely on prediction, and how purpose, humility, and experimentation become the anchors for organizational adaptability.

Leading with Love with Bob Chavez, Former CEO of Hermès Americas

Thursday, December 18, 2025 • Duration 01:07:52

Can love be a serious strategy in today’s high-pressure business environment?

In this episode of A Podcast About Leadership, host and AIIR Consulting CEO Dr. Jonathan Kirchner is joined by Bob Chavez, former President and CEO of Hermès Americas, and Jamie Ramsden, author and executive coach to both Jonathan and Bob.

Together, they explore a leadership philosophy centered on trust, care for people, and long-term commitment — a deliberate alternative to fear-based leadership and short-term thinking.

Drawing on Bob’s extraordinary journey — from his childhood on what he calls “the wrong side of the tracks” in San Antonio to his years at Princeton to stewarding one of the world’s most iconic luxury brands for more than two decades — the conversation reveals how timeless values, emotional courage, and focus can produce enduring performance in even the most competitive industries.

This episode is a masterclass in human-centered leadership — and a reminder that the most powerful force in business may still be the one leaders are most hesitant to name.

Key takeaways from the conversation include:

Why leading with love is not soft leadership — and how it creates accountability, trust, and exceptional performance
How Hermès sustained long-term growth by prioritizing patience, craftsmanship, and culture over short-term wins
The role of storytelling and sense-making in helping organizations stay focused amid distraction and volatility
What it takes to build culture as a living system — not a poster on the wall
How leaders can challenge people to grow while creating psychological safety and deep belonging
Why focus, trust, and care for people may be the ultimate competitive advantage in modern leadership

Whether you lead a global organization, a growing team, or yourself, this episode offers a powerful reframing of what leadership can look like when it is grounded in humanity.

The Art and Science of CEO Succession with National Vision CEO Alex Wilkes and Executive Chairman Reade Fahs

Friday, January 9, 2026 • Duration 01:22:42

What does CEO succession look like when it’s planned, values-led, and built for continuity and change at the same time?

In this episode of A Podcast About Leadership, host Jonathan Kirschner, founder and CEO of AIIR Consulting, sits down with three leaders who’ve lived the succession story from every angle:

Reade Fahs, who led National Vision for more than two decades, guiding the company from a modest optical chain into one of the largest vision care retailers in America — and who recently transitioned out of the role of CEO.
Alex Wilkes, National Vision’s new CEO, who joined as president and stepped into the top role with a modernization agenda rooted in customer reality and operational urgency.
Jamie Ramsden, senior executive coach, author of Let’s Go, and a former CEO himself, who has coached both leaders and offers a behind-the-scenes view into what makes a succession succeed or fail.

Together, they explore the art and science of handing over the baton — including the internal work required of the outgoing CEO, the strategic choices required of the incoming CEO, and the practical routines that protect trust during a high-stakes transition.

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