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Cloud Foundry
Épisode 54
mercredi 11 mars 2026 • Durée 29:10
Cloud Foundry after Kubernetes: How a lighter community process, growing contributions, and a new path to Kubernetes are shaping the platform’s next chapter.
In this episode of the Open Source Way podcast, Karsten speaks with Beyhan Veli about the current evolution of Cloud Foundry and the community behind it. They discuss how the project reorganized its contributor processes to make onboarding easier and more transparent, leading to a significant increase in community participation and RFC-driven innovation. Beyhan also shares updates on recent platform features, including cloud-native buildpacks, improved health checks, configurable routing algorithms, and IPv6 support. The conversation explores how Cloud Foundry and Kubernetes are increasingly seen as complementary technologies rather than competitors, culminating in a new initiative to enable Cloud Foundry deployments directly on Kubernetes. Together, they reflect on the renewed momentum in the ecosystem and what the future may hold for developers and contributors.
Guests:
- Beyhan Veli (LinkedIn)
UI5 & MCP - Navigating the Model Context Protocol in SAP
Épisode 53
mercredi 11 février 2026 • Durée 35:40
In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of the Model Context Protocol (MCP) within the SAP ecosystem, a pivotal component designed to offer domain expertise to LLMs. Join our host alongside Tim Back and Florian Vogt as we unpack the role and significance of MCP in the SAP ecosystem in the world of AI.
Guests:
- Florian Vogt (LinkedIn) and on GitHub
- Tim Back
Show Notes:
UI5 MCP Server Blogpost
UI5 MCP server on GitHub
CAP Operator
Épisode 44
mercredi 18 septembre 2024 • Durée 24:00
What is CAP Operator, what are its main features, and how does it function?
In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Sathyajith Krishnan (SAP) and Pavan Nayak (SAP) about CAP Operator – which deploys and manages the lifecycle of multi-tenant SAP Cloud Application Programming Model applications and related components, based on SAP BTP golden path, within a Kubernetes cluster.
Sathyajith and Pavan explain the main features of CAP Operator and share an overview of the major automation steps handled by CAP Operator during the deployment of the application. The conversation also covers the operator’s evolution from an internal solution to an open-source resource, the foundational knowledge needed for users, and future enhancements planned for better integration and community engagement.
Guests:
Sathyajith Krishnan is a Development Architect focused on building platform components which enable ease of consumption as well as access to the latest technologies for developers building business applications. For the past 16 years he has worked as part of product development teams as well as Customer specific implementation projects at SAP which has helped him gain unique perspectives on how to develop platform capabilities for both internal development teams as well as the external ecosystem.
GitHub: https://github.com/skrishnan-sap/
Pavan Nayak is an architect in the Cloud ERP area with 17 years of experience across different projects at SAP. Perhaps this may be of interest to Open Source Way listeners: Pavan was also part of UI5 within SAP and has interest in several Open Source projects in his private life outside SAP, most prominently the custom ROM scene with AOSP (esp. LineageOS).
GitHub: https://github.com/Pavan-SAP
Show Notes:
- Links
- SAP Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP): https://cap.cloud.sap
- CAP Operator GitHub: https://github.com/SAP/cap-operator
- CAP SAP Community page: https://pages.community.sap.com/topics/cloud-application-programming
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- Additional Downloads
Host:
Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
Garden Linux
Épisode 43
lundi 22 juillet 2024 • Durée 26:45
In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Florian Wilhelm (SAP) about Project Garden Linux – a lightweight, secure Linux distribution optimized for cloud-native environments and container workloads, offering minimal footprint and high performance. Florian also explains what the ‘new Linux’ is, why it’s needed and why the new Linux is of interest for open source, the community and for SAP.
Guest:
Florian Wilhelm
Florian is a senior software developer with a passion for Linux and Free Open-Source Software. He worked on Java-based projects before joining SAP in Potsdam in 2017 where he contributed to multiple projects, most notably the SAP Cloud SDK and Project ‘Piper’. He joined the project ‘Garden Linux’ team fulltime in 2024 after he got to know the team while doing a fellowship where he implemented a proof of concept for safe in-place upgrades using OSTree in Garden Linux.
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fwilhe/
- GitHub: https://github.com/fwilhe
Show Notes:
- Garden Linux on GitHub: https://github.com/gardenlinux
- Blog post series on OSTree Proof of Concept for Garden Linux: https://blogs.sap.com/2023/07/10/making-an-immutable-image-based-operating-system-out-of-garden-linux/
- Getting started with the Garden Linux Builder: https://github.com/gardenlinux/builder/blob/main/docs/getting_started.md
- Garden Linux docs for developers and admins: https://github.com/gardenlinux/gardenlinux/blob/main/docs/README.md
- Florian’s GitHub profile: https://github.com/fwilhe
- Florian’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fwilhe
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- e-mail – ospo@sap.com
- Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP)
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
Open Resource Discovery (ORD)
Épisode 42
vendredi 14 juin 2024 • Durée 27:58
What is Open Resource Discovery (ORD) and how can it be used and implemented inside SAP and beyond?
In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Simon Heimler (SAP) about Open Resource Discovery (ORD) – a protocol that allows applications and services to self-describe their exposed resources and capabilities. Simon explains in more detail what ORD is, how it’s used and where at SAP we already use ORD or plan to use it in the future. As the platform is an open standard by SAP geared towards the SAP ecosystem, how do we ensure a correct adoption of ORD at SAP? And how can it be helpful for individuals outside of SAP?
Guest:
Simon Heimler
Simon Heimler is a Software Architect at SAP and works on metadata standardization & strategy, Data Products, APIs and Event guidelines and integration topics. Before that, he has done full-stack development & architecture in various companies. He maintains a few private open source projects where time permits.
- GitHub-Link: Fannon (Simon Heimler) · GitHub
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonheimler/
Show Notes:
- Links
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- Try out an open source podcast player (list not maintained by SAP)
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
abapGit
Épisode 41
mercredi 15 mai 2024 • Durée 25:46
Introducing abapGit – an open source Git client. In this Podcast episode, we explain and discuss what abapGit is, how it works, what it’s needed for, and how it can be used.
In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Michael Schneider and Marc Bernard about abapGit – an open source Git client developed for the ABAP server to import and export objects between ABAP systems. In the discussion, Marc explains the basics of abapGit, and how it works. He also shares what abapGit is needed for, and how it can be used. Michael gives us some insights about SAP’s involvement in the development of abapGit and invites the listeners to explore more ABAP open source projects.
Guests:
Michael Schneider
For over ten years, Michael has held the product owner role, handling various topics related to ABAP developer tools. Previously, he was a developer in the same field and was part of the pioneering team that built ABAP development tools in Eclipse. He is responsible for various tools in this area, including the ABAP class editor.
More recently, he and his team launched and are actively maintaining two open source repositories focusing on ABAP file formats.
- GitHub-Link: https://github.com/schneidermic0
Marc Bernard
Marc Bernard is a distinguished technology architect with a rich history at SAP as a Sr. Chief Architect, specializing in in-memory computing and data warehousing. His strategic vision contributed significantly to SAP HANA and BW/4HANA’s success, earning him a reputation as a trusted advisor for SAP customers.
In 2019, Marc founded Marc Bernard Tools, focusing on pioneering ABAP open source tools. He’s a lead maintainer for abapGit and contributes to ABAP and JavaScript open source projects, demonstrating his unwavering commitment to the tech community. Marc is a recognized speaker at industry events and is set to present at ABAPConf in June 2024.
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/marcfbe
- LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/marcfbe
- GitHub-Link: https://github.com/mbtools
Show Notes:
- Links
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- Try out an open source podcast player (list not maintained by SAP)
- Additional Downloads
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA)
Épisode 40
jeudi 4 avril 2024 • Durée 36:51
In this episode, host Karsten Hohage discusses the European Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) with Mirko Boehm, Mike Milinkovich, and Sebastian Wolf. Our guests explain what the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) is and why it is important to virtually everyone in the EU and anyone who wants to do business in the European market. What has the journey of the CRA been until now, and what are the next steps in the evolution of CRA? How will the CRA impact the consumption and contribution of Open Source Software?
Guests:
Mike Milinkovich
Mike Milinkovich is a seasoned technology executive with a wealth of experience in leading open source software organizations. For the past 20 years, Mike has served as the Executive Director of the Eclipse Foundation, where he has played a pivotal role in driving innovation and fostering industry collaboration within the Eclipse community. Mike has served on the boards of Open Source Initiative, the Java Community Process, and the OpenJDK community where he championed industry adoption of open-source technologies and standards.
- LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemilinkovich/
- Twitter / X – https://twitter.com/mmilinkov
Mirko Bohm
Mirko Boehm is a prominent figure in the open-source software community, known for his expertise in software development, leadership, and advocacy. He is currently working as Senior Director, Community Development, Linux Foundation Europe. As a seasoned technologist and entrepreneur, he has held leadership roles in both technical and managerial capacities, demonstrating a unique blend of technical acumen and strategic thinking. Mirko is passionate about fostering collaboration and innovation within the open-source ecosystem, and he is actively involved in promoting the principles of openness, transparency, and community-driven development.
- LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirkoboehm/
- Twitter / X – https://twitter.com/mirkoboehm
Sebastian Wolf
Sebastian is a development architect and has worked for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions at, for example, SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture. He was engaged at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager from the very beginning and is now coordinating open-source consumption topics in the SAP OSPO.
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ygriega
- GitHub: https://github.com/Wunderfitz
Show Notes:
- Links
- FOSDEM 24 EU Legislative Landscape Devroom: https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/track/eu-policy/
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP)
- Additional Downloads
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
Open Source and Universities
mercredi 28 février 2024 • Durée 35:17
In this episode, host Karsten Hohage discusses open source and InnerSource at universities with our guest Clare Dillon. Clare explains how collaborative, community-driven approaches to open-source development at universities result in greater knowledge sharing, but also what the academia-specific challenges to open approaches are. This episode will help you gain insight into the evolving open source landscape in academia and how it differs from other parts of the OSS ecosystem.
Guest:Clare Dillon
Clare Dillon is an open source and InnerSource advocate and is currently a researcher with University of Galway and Lero, the Science Foundation Ireland Research Centre for Software. Alongside working with the emerging global community of academic OSPOs, Clare is a member of Lero’s OSPO team. From 2021-2023, Clare served as the inaugural Executive Director of InnerSource Commons, a global non-profit foundation supporting open collaboration methods in corporate software development. In 2021, Clare co-founded Open Ireland Network, a community for those interested in advancing open source at a national level in Ireland. Previously, Clare was a member of the Microsoft Ireland Leadership Team, heading up their Developer Evangelism Group and responsible for Microsoft Ireland’s Academic Outreach Programs for over 10 years. Clare is a qualified coach and frequently speaks on topics relating to open collaboration and the future of work.
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claredillon/
- Lero’s OSPO
- Sloan Foundation
- Science Foundation Ireland Research Centre for Software
- SustainOSS Academic Working Group
- CHAOSS
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- SAP Open Source at SAP Community
- Mastodon – @SAPOpenSource@fosstodon.org
- Twitter – @sapopensource
- E-mail – ospo@sap.com
- SAP University Alliances
- Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP)
- Additional Downloads
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
Sovereign Tech Fund – Investing in the Future Today
mercredi 20 décembre 2023 • Durée 31:59
In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Powen Shiah and Mirko Swillus about the Sovereign Tech Fund. Established in 2022, it focuses on critical infrastructure in the public interest with the goal of supporting development, improvement, and maintenance of open-source components in digital infrastructure. The funding comes from the German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action (Bundesministerium für Wirtschaft und Klimaschutz), as investing in digital commons strengthens innovation, economic competition, and democracy.
Guests:Powen Shiah
Powen handles communications at the Sovereign Tech Fund. He’s worked in product marketing, communications, and internationalization at technology startups in Germany and the US and really enjoys thinking about how technologies impact our lives. His latest passion is a growing collection of (savory) popcorn seasonings.
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/polexa
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/powenshiah/
- Mastodon: https://tech.lgbt/@polexa
Mirko Swillus
Mirko has 15 years of professional experience in software engineering, working in different setups and roles. He’s specifically interested in the question of how engineering communities organize to achieve sustainable productivity. While Powen lives in Berlin, Mirko is based in Dresden.
- Mastodon: https://chaos.social/@mechko
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirko-swillus-3a0714191/
- Sovereign Tech Fund
- How to apply – https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/programs/applications
- Announcement – STF The Sovereign Tech Fund is becoming permanent and an independent organization – https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/news/stf-becomes-independent-permanent-organization
- Mastodon – https://mastodon.social/@sovtechfund
- LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/sovereign-tech-fund/
- BlueSky – https://bsky.app/profile/sovereigntechfund.de
- Twitter/X – https://twitter.com/sovtechfund
- Open Source Contributor Index (OCI) – https://opensourceindex.io/
- Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure – Ford Foundation
- Mentioned episodes
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP)
- Additional Downloads
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/
The Growing Importance of Software Bills of Materials (SBOM)
mercredi 29 novembre 2023 • Durée 36:12
In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Max Mehl and Sebastian Wolf about Software Bills of Materials or SBOMs. An SBOM is a detailed record of all components within a software application, including open-source libraries, third-party dependencies and licenses. Max and Sebastian discuss the importance of SBOMs as well as some challenges and unanswered questions of the state of the art. They also speak with Karsten about SBOMs within SAP and Deutsche Bahn and the importance of SBOMs when it comes to open source.
Guests:Max Mehl
Max has been committed to free and open-source software for many years. He is responsible for all aspects of open source at DB Systel. In this role, he supports Deutsche Bahn in using and contributing to open source professionally. He previously worked for the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE), where he coordinated initiatives such as REUSE and “Public Money? Public Code!”. He is a board member of FSFE and F-Droid and is involved in several projects as a maintainer.
- GitHub: https://github.com/mxmehl
- Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@mxmehl
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxmehl/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/mxmehl
- Blog: https://mehl.mx/blog/
- Website: https://mehl.mx/
Sebastian Wolf
Sebastian is a development architect and has worked for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions at, for example, SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture. He was engaged at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager from the very beginning and is now coordinating open-source consumption topics in the SAP OSPO.
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ygriega
- GitHub: https://github.com/Wunderfitz
- Slides: SBOMs – A short introduction · todogroup/ospology · Discussion #376 (github.com)
- Software Bill of Deliveries (SBOD)
- SBOM Everywhere
- OSS Review Toolkit – https://github.com/oss-review-toolkit/ort
- SPDX – https://spdx.dev/
- CycloneDX – https://cyclonedx.org/
- Deutsche Bahn Open Source: https://opensource.deutschebahn.com
- SAP Open Source Program Office
- Additional Downloads
Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/








