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Cloud Foundry11 Mar 202600:29:10

Cloud Foundry after Kubernetes: How a lighter community process, growing contributions, and a new path to Kubernetes are shaping the platform’s next chapter.


In this episode of the Open Source Way podcast, Karsten speaks with Beyhan Veli about the current evolution of Cloud Foundry and the community behind it. They discuss how the project reorganized its contributor processes to make onboarding easier and more transparent, leading to a significant increase in community participation and RFC-driven innovation. Beyhan also shares updates on recent platform features, including cloud-native buildpacks, improved health checks, configurable routing algorithms, and IPv6 support. The conversation explores how Cloud Foundry and Kubernetes are increasingly seen as complementary technologies rather than competitors, culminating in a new initiative to enable Cloud Foundry deployments directly on Kubernetes. Together, they reflect on the renewed momentum in the ecosystem and what the future may hold for developers and contributors.


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    UI5 & MCP - Navigating the Model Context Protocol in SAP11 Feb 202600:35:40

    In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of the Model Context Protocol (MCP) within the SAP ecosystem, a pivotal component designed to offer domain expertise to LLMs. Join our host alongside Tim Back and Florian Vogt as we unpack the role and significance of MCP in the SAP ecosystem in the world of AI.

    Guests:

    Show Notes:

    UI5 MCP Server Blogpost

    UI5 MCP server on GitHub

    CAP Operator18 Sep 202400:24:00

    What is CAP Operator, what are its main features, and how does it function?


    In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Sathyajith Krishnan (SAP) and Pavan Nayak (SAP) about CAP Operator – which deploys and manages the lifecycle of multi-tenant SAP Cloud Application Programming Model applications and related components, based on SAP BTP golden path, within a Kubernetes cluster.


    Sathyajith and Pavan explain the main features of CAP Operator and share an overview of the major automation steps handled by CAP Operator during the deployment of the application. The conversation also covers the operator’s evolution from an internal solution to an open-source resource, the foundational knowledge needed for users, and future enhancements planned for better integration and community engagement.


    Guests:

    Sathyajith Krishnan is a Development Architect focused on building platform components which enable ease of consumption as well as access to the latest technologies for developers building business applications. For the past 16 years he has worked as part of product development teams as well as Customer specific implementation projects at SAP which has helped him gain unique perspectives on how to develop platform capabilities for both internal development teams as well as the external ecosystem.

    GitHub: https://github.com/skrishnan-sap/


    Pavan Nayak is an architect in the Cloud ERP area with 17 years of experience across different projects at SAP. Perhaps this may be of interest to Open Source Way listeners: Pavan was also part of UI5 within SAP and has interest in several Open Source projects in his private life outside SAP, most prominently the custom ROM scene with AOSP (esp. LineageOS).

    GitHub: https://github.com/Pavan-SAP


    Show Notes:

    Host:

    Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Garden Linux22 Jul 202400:26:45

    In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Florian Wilhelm (SAP) about Project Garden Linux – a lightweight, secure Linux distribution optimized for cloud-native environments and container workloads, offering minimal footprint and high performance. Florian also explains what the ‘new Linux’ is, why it’s needed and why the new Linux is of interest for open source, the community and for SAP.


    Guest:

    Florian Wilhelm

    Florian is a senior software developer with a passion for Linux and Free Open-Source Software. He worked on Java-based projects before joining SAP in Potsdam in 2017 where he contributed to multiple projects, most notably the SAP Cloud SDK and Project ‘Piper’. He joined the project ‘Garden Linux’ team fulltime in 2024 after he got to know the team while doing a fellowship where he implemented a proof of concept for safe in-place upgrades using OSTree in Garden Linux.

    Show Notes:



    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    Open Resource Discovery (ORD)14 Jun 202400:27:58

    What is Open Resource Discovery (ORD) and how can it be used and implemented inside SAP and beyond?


    In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Simon Heimler (SAP) about Open Resource Discovery (ORD) – a protocol that allows applications and services to self-describe their exposed resources and capabilities. Simon explains in more detail what ORD is, how it’s used and where at SAP we already use ORD or plan to use it in the future. As the platform is an open standard by SAP geared towards the SAP ecosystem, how do we ensure a correct adoption of ORD at SAP? And how can it be helpful for individuals outside of SAP?


    Guest:

    Simon Heimler

    Simon Heimler is a Software Architect at SAP and works on metadata standardization & strategy, Data Products, APIs and Event guidelines and integration topics. Before that, he has done full-stack development & architecture in various companies. He maintains a few private open source projects where time permits.


    Show Notes:


    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    abapGit15 May 202400:25:46

    Introducing abapGit – an open source Git client. In this Podcast episode, we explain and discuss what abapGit is, how it works, what it’s needed for, and how it can be used.


    In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Michael Schneider and Marc Bernard about abapGit – an open source Git client developed for the ABAP server to import and export objects between ABAP systems. In the discussion, Marc explains the basics of abapGit, and how it works. He also shares what abapGit is needed for, and how it can be used. Michael gives us some insights about SAP’s involvement in the development of abapGit and invites the listeners to explore more ABAP open source projects.


    Guests:

    Michael Schneider

    For over ten years, Michael has held the product owner role, handling various topics related to ABAP developer tools. Previously, he was a developer in the same field and was part of the pioneering team that built ABAP development tools in Eclipse. He is responsible for various tools in this area, including the ABAP class editor.


    More recently, he and his team launched and are actively maintaining two open source repositories focusing on ABAP file formats.

    Marc Bernard

    Marc Bernard is a distinguished technology architect with a rich history at SAP as a Sr. Chief Architect, specializing in in-memory computing and data warehousing. His strategic vision contributed significantly to SAP HANA and BW/4HANA’s success, earning him a reputation as a trusted advisor for SAP customers.


    In 2019, Marc founded Marc Bernard Tools, focusing on pioneering ABAP open source tools. He’s a lead maintainer for abapGit and contributes to ABAP and JavaScript open source projects, demonstrating his unwavering commitment to the tech community. Marc is a recognized speaker at industry events and is set to present at ABAPConf in June 2024.

    Show Notes:



    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA)04 Apr 202400:36:51

    In this episode, host Karsten Hohage discusses the European Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) with Mirko Boehm, Mike Milinkovich, and Sebastian Wolf. Our guests explain what the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) is and why it is important to virtually everyone in the EU and anyone who wants to do business in the European market. What has the journey of the CRA been until now, and what are the next steps in the evolution of CRA? How will the CRA impact the consumption and contribution of Open Source Software?


    Guests:

    Mike Milinkovich

    Mike Milinkovich is a seasoned technology executive with a wealth of experience in leading open source software organizations. For the past 20 years, Mike has served as the Executive Director of the Eclipse Foundation, where he has played a pivotal role in driving innovation and fostering industry collaboration within the Eclipse community. Mike has served on the boards of Open Source Initiative, the Java Community Process, and the OpenJDK community where he championed industry adoption of open-source technologies and standards.

    Mirko Bohm

    Mirko Boehm is a prominent figure in the open-source software community, known for his expertise in software development, leadership, and advocacy. He is currently working as Senior Director, Community Development, Linux Foundation Europe. As a seasoned technologist and entrepreneur, he has held leadership roles in both technical and managerial capacities, demonstrating a unique blend of technical acumen and strategic thinking. Mirko is passionate about fostering collaboration and innovation within the open-source ecosystem, and he is actively involved in promoting the principles of openness, transparency, and community-driven development.

    Sebastian Wolf

    Sebastian is a development architect and has worked for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions at, for example, SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture. He was engaged at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager from the very beginning and is now coordinating open-source consumption topics in the SAP OSPO.

    Show Notes:



    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    Open Source and Universities28 Feb 202400:35:17

    In this episode, host Karsten Hohage discusses open source and InnerSource at universities with our guest Clare Dillon. Clare explains how collaborative, community-driven approaches to open-source development at universities result in greater knowledge sharing, but also what the academia-specific challenges to open approaches are. This episode will help you gain insight into the evolving open source landscape in academia and how it differs from other parts of the OSS ecosystem.

    Guest:

    Clare Dillon

    Clare Dillon is an open source and InnerSource advocate and is currently a researcher with University of Galway and Lero, the Science Foundation Ireland Research Centre for Software. Alongside working with the emerging global community of academic OSPOs, Clare is a member of Lero’s OSPO team. From 2021-2023, Clare served as the inaugural Executive Director of InnerSource Commons, a global non-profit foundation supporting open collaboration methods in corporate software development. In 2021, Clare co-founded Open Ireland Network, a community for those interested in advancing open source at a national level in Ireland. Previously, Clare was a member of the Microsoft Ireland Leadership Team, heading up their Developer Evangelism Group and responsible for Microsoft Ireland’s Academic Outreach Programs for over 10 years. Clare is a qualified coach and frequently speaks on topics relating to open collaboration and the future of work.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Sovereign Tech Fund – Investing in the Future Today20 Dec 202300:31:59

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Powen Shiah and Mirko Swillus about the Sovereign Tech Fund. Established in 2022, it focuses on critical infrastructure in the public interest with the goal of supporting development, improvement, and maintenance of open-source components in digital infrastructure. The funding comes from the German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action (Bundesministerium für Wirtschaft und Klimaschutz), as investing in digital commons strengthens innovation, economic competition, and democracy.

    Guests:

    Powen Shiah

    Powen handles communications at the Sovereign Tech Fund. He’s worked in product marketing, communications, and internationalization at technology startups in Germany and the US and really enjoys thinking about how technologies impact our lives. His latest passion is a growing collection of (savory) popcorn seasonings.

    Mirko Swillus

    Mirko has 15 years of professional experience in software engineering, working in different setups and roles. He’s specifically interested in the question of how engineering communities organize to achieve sustainable productivity. While Powen lives in Berlin, Mirko is based in Dresden.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    The Growing Importance of Software Bills of Materials (SBOM)29 Nov 202300:36:12

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Max Mehl and Sebastian Wolf about Software Bills of Materials or SBOMs. An SBOM is a detailed record of all components within a software application, including open-source libraries, third-party dependencies and licenses. Max and Sebastian discuss the importance of SBOMs as well as some challenges and unanswered questions of the state of the art. They also speak with Karsten about SBOMs within SAP and Deutsche Bahn and the importance of SBOMs when it comes to open source.

    Guests:

    Max Mehl

    Max has been committed to free and open-source software for many years. He is responsible for all aspects of open source at DB Systel. In this role, he supports Deutsche Bahn in using and contributing to open source professionally. He previously worked for the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE), where he coordinated initiatives such as REUSE and “Public Money? Public Code!”. He is a board member of FSFE and F-Droid and is involved in several projects as a maintainer.

    Sebastian Wolf

    Sebastian is a development architect and has worked for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions at, for example, SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture. He was engaged at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager from the very beginning and is now coordinating open-source consumption topics in the SAP OSPO.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Project “Foxhound” – Hunting Cross-Site Scripting on the Web25 Oct 202300:29:31

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Thomas Barber about project “Foxhound”, an SAP-maintained fork of Firefox (the web browser) that is designed to detect security vulnerabilities in websites. Thomas discusses the history of “Foxhound”, how and why it was created, and its journey to becoming an open-source project. He talks about the importance of the collaborations that made Foxhound successful and about some of the challenges that it has faced along the way. Anyone who wants to get involved in this project is welcome to visit the GitHub page to learn more.

    Guest:

    Thomas Barber

    Thomas’ first experience with software development was at the age of twelve when he programmed the game “Mortal Wombat” in QuickBASIC. Since then, he has worked as an embedded software developer and security expert in the automotive industry, before moving to SAP Security Research in 2019. Thomas’ interests include investigating novel techniques for the detection and automatic prevention of injection vulnerabilities and privacy violations in web applications. Thomas holds a PhD in the field of Physics from the University of Cambridge and has published papers in the fields of Particle Physics, Astronomy, and Computer Science.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    The TODO Group – Talk Openly, Develop Openly27 Sep 202300:25:37

    In this episode our host Karsten Hohage talks to Ana Jiménez Santamaria about the TODO Group, a community dedicated to sharing knowledge, collaborating on practices, tools, and other ways to run effective Open Source Program Offices and similar initiatives. They discuss its history, mission, working mode, and how TODO Group provides a platform to connect peers and enables them to collaborate on projects that promote the integration of strategic open-source practices within different organizations. Everyone is welcome to join the TODO mission and contribute to the continuous development of best practices.

    Guests:

    Ana Jiménez Santamaría is the OSPO Program Manager at the TODO Group. Ana has a strong background in Open Source, Developer Relations, Community Health Analytics, and InnerSource. She previously worked at Bitergia, a software development analytics firm, where she completed her M.Sc. in Data Science. Her thesis focused on measuring the success of Developer Relations in Open Source communities. For more details on her thesis work, check out: https://anajimenezsantamaria.gitlab.io/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    ABAP and Open Source – A Senior Manager’s Perspective01 Dec 202500:26:02

    In this episode of The Open Source Way, Karsten Hohage chats with Sonja Lienard, Senior Vice President and Head of ABAP Platform at SAP SE. They delve into Sonja’s professional journey, her contributions to ABAP development, and the significant role open source technologies play at SAP.


    The discussion covers Sonja’s involvement with various programming languages, the integration of Eclipse IDE and Rust into ABAP development, and the importance of bottom-up innovation. Sonja emphasizes the value of swarm intelligence and the necessity for senior management to grant developers the freedom to explore open source projects.


    Tune in for an engaging conversation on how open source drives both external collaboration and internal development at SAP – from a senior manager’s perspective!


    Guests:

    Sonja Liénard

    Sonja Liénard is Senior Vice President and Head of ABAP Platform at SAP SE. In her role, she leads a global engineering organization and defines the long-term vision, strategy, and roadmap of the ABAP platform in multiple areas such as Generative Artificial Intelligence, ABAP Cloud, ABAP Platform Infrastructure, and Custom Code Transformation for SAP’s Clean Core strategy.

    Follow Sonja on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonjalienard/


    Show Notes:

    Host:

    Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    Follow Karsten on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    Open Component Model (OCM) – Describe, Transport, Deploy30 Aug 202300:29:48

    OCM is an extensible standard accompanied by a toolset designed to enable the automation of many software-lifecycle-related processes. It can be defined as a common machine-readable format for describing software components, which serves as a Software Bill of Delivery (SBoD). In this episode, our guests Jason Kafka and Ingo Kober discuss with host Karsten Hohage about OCM and why it is run as open source. Jason and Ingo also talk about their vision for OCM’s future, its applications, and its challenges.

    Guests:

    Jason Kafka has been part of the SAP family for 14 years. He started as a Software Engineer in the development support area, debugging hard core C/C++ SAP NetWeaver kernel bugs, and then went into technical project management. After that, he spent 1.5 years in Shanghai to help set up the SAP Cloud Platform. He then joined the Gardener organization, where he is now an engineering manager responsible for the Gardener Lifecycle Management team.

    Ingo Kober joined SAP 22 years ago and has since worked in various positions, including development (Web / Java / ABAP), and  scrum master. He is now a product owner for the internal service Landscaper, used to orchestrate Kubernetes deployments. In his current position, he mostly works with teams in the software lifecycle management area, trying to streamline processes and tools across SAP, with the goal to “improve SAP developers’ lives.” His current technology focus is on Kubernetes.

    Show Notes:

    SGS = SAP Global Security team

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Summer Break 2023 - We'll be back in August!27 Jul 202300:00:32

    Dear listener, we typically have a summer break in August, but this year we will do it in July.

    We will be back with an episode for you at the last Wednesday of August.

    If you are craving for open source content from us, check out the recordings of our public webinars at https://webinars.sap.com/ospo-webinar-series/en/webinar-replays!

    Credential Digger – detecting leaked secrets on GitHub28 Jun 202300:25:54

    Credential Digger is an SAP Open-Source code scanner for detecting hardcoded secrets. In this episode, Slim Trabelsi discusses with host Karsten Hohage what led to the creation of Credential Digger and about its key differentiators. Slim also speaks of the early challenges of scanning for secrets, and lists the many advantages of using open source for building and maintaining Credential Digger. Open source comes with visibility for customers, and contributors can work on a project even before they join the team or after they leave, leading to improved continuity and a better tool overall.

    Guests:

    Slim Trabelsi joined SAP 15 years ago and currently works as a senior security expert in the SAP Security Research team. His background includes data privacy, data protection, and social media security. He is currently focusing his research activities on cyber security, threat intelligence, and surveillance. Slim recently developed an open-source tool called Credential Digger, which is used to identify hardcoded secrets in source code repositories like GitHub.  

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Do Good and Talk about it!31 May 202300:26:00

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with Johannes Bechberger, who is an open-source developer at SAP. They discuss why and how Johannes promotes his work on SapMachine, OpenJDK, and profiling through blogging, speaking at conferences, and having a presence on social media. Johannes also shares tips and learnings collected on his journey of “doing good and talking about it”.

    Guests:

    Johannes Bechberger currently works as a JVM developer in the SapMachine team at SAP. His responsibilities include making improvements to async-profiler and its ecosystem, as well as improving the FirefoxProfiler, which enables it to be usable in the Java world. In addition to his many contributions to open source, he also runs a successful blog, where he regularly writes about in-depth profiling and debugging.

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/parttimen3rd
    Blog: https://mostlynerdless.de
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/johannes-bechberger-381296149
    GitHub: https://github.com/parttimenerd
    Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@parttimenerd
    SAP People: https://people.sap.com/parttimenerd

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Debunking InnerSource Myths26 Apr 202300:30:05

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Georg Gruetter from Robert Bosch and Michael Picht from SAP about common concerns regarding InnerSource. They debunk some of the frequent myths surrounding InnerSource and explain the many benefits of its utilization, including its versatility and its innovative and collaborative nature. In the course of the conversation, they also discuss how InnerSource code can be maintained successfully and what can be done for quality control.

    Guests:

    Georg Grütter is a passionate software developer and chief expert for InnerSource at Robert Bosch in Germany, where he co-founded the InnerSource initiative in 2009. Georg also co-founded the InnerSource Commons Foundation, for which he serves on the board of directors. Before Georg joined Bosch in 2004, he worked as a software developer and consultant for Line Information GmbH, Zurich System House and Mercedes-Benz AG.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georggruetter/

    Michael Picht works as a chief architect at the SAP Open Source Program Office. He is one of the leads of SAP’s InnerSource program. Prior to this, he worked as a developer, software architect, project-, program- and product manager within SAP application development with focus on supply chain management, business processes, and innovation topics.

    LinkedIn: https://de.linkedin.com/in/michael-picht-249b7a149

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    SUSE – Delivering automation and enterprise grade Open Source software to the SAP ecosystem29 Mar 202300:28:42

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Alan Clarke and Keith Seigel about SUSE Enterprise Linux and and Linux in general. The speakers discuss how the SUSE distribution relates to Linux as an open source project and and talk about the development of new projects like Trento. They also mention the certification process, the subscription for patches and updates, discuss an example of fixing a HANA on SUSE issue, and explain the importance of the long-standing partnership with SAP for SUSE’s business.

    Guests:

    Alan Clarke is SAP Alliance Manager for the EMEA region at SUSE and has spent 8 of his 10 years there, embedded within the SAP ecosystem. Alan spends much of his time collaborating with and supporting both SAP partners (Hyperscalers, IHVs, GSIs and regional SIs and MSPs) and also assists SAP customers with their migration and transformation projects.

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanclarke_SUSE
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanclarke7

    Keith Seigel came to SUSE in December of 2020 after a 10 year career within the SAP Ecosystem. At SAP he was an Account Executive who then moved through the leadership rankings within the Sales Development organization. Shortly after leading the Sales Development teams at SAP, he moved into a leadership role for various different solutions and services at SAP. Keith now oversees SUSE’s partnership with SAP for North America.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-s-626a7b8

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    SAP Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP) – A step-by-step journey towards open source22 Feb 202300:27:10

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Christian Georgi and Daniel Hutzel about the SAP Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP), a Software Development Kit (SDK) to build applications in the enterprise world.  They speak about how CAP is gradually being open-sourced so that it can evolve with the help of its community. This will allow, for instance, the support of additional databases, consumption protocols, and UI frameworks. We also learn how the CAP team has engaged with the community so far and how this motivated them to open source it.

    Guests:

    Christian Georgi has been working on development tools at SAP for many years, like the SAP HANA Studio and ABAP Development Tools (ADT) for Eclipse. He is now a product owner for CAP tools and helps spread the word about CAP.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-georgi-291258115

    Daniel Hutzel has been with SAP since 2004. He invented and designed Core Data Services (CDS) in 2012, which got broadly adopted across SAP (in HANA, ABAP, and CAP), as well as Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP) in 2017, which he has been leading since then as Chief Architect and CPO.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aragon

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Project Piper – From InnerSource to Open Source28 Dec 202200:27:11

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guest Christoph Szymanski about Project Piper, an open source library for the creation of continuous integration and delivery pipelines. Christoph speaks about how Project Piper relates to the SAP-proprietary service “SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery“ and how Piper became a successful offering to anybody working with SAP development projects. We also learn why Christoph loves the unpopular task of writing tests and how these are the key factor to continuous delivery and integration.

    Guest:

    Christoph Szymanski is the owner of the SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery service and also works on Project Piper, which is the library behind the service, developed as a community project. Both enable you to build and automatize software delivery pipelines. Christoph has been an application developer for 20 years, mainly focusing on web applications in different languages and frameworks. During his career, he engaged in various roles, as for example Product Owner, Scrum Master, and Product Manager.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christoph-szymanski-9b0484103/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ski_at_work 

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Red Hat – Distributor and Mediator in the Open-Source World30 Nov 202200:26:26

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guest Arne Arnold from Red Hat about Linux and the role of distributors in the open-source world. Arne speaks about his journey from SAP to Red Hat and how the distributor made its way to become a catalyst for open-source communities. We also learn how Arne started his Linux career contributing to the search for extraterrestrial life from his student dormitory and about SAP’s contribution to Linux becoming the leading server operating system worldwide.   

    Guest:

    Arne Arnold is a Senior Principal Product Manager within the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Business Unit. As the offering manager for Red Hat’s solutions targeting SAP, his focus lies on SAP certifications and product roadmap for RHEL for SAP Solutions, the RHEL High Availability solutions for SAP, and SAP automation on top of the Red Hat Ansible Automation Platform.
    Arne holds a Master‘s degree in Computer Science and is a certified PMI Project Manager Professional. Prior to joining Red Hat in 2018, Arne worked for VMware and SAP and was one of the first Product Managers for the SAP HANA platform.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arne-arnold/ 
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/vArneArnold

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Linux Foundation – Building Trust in Software Supply Chains26 Oct 202200:34:47

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guest Shane Coughlan about OpenChain by the Linux Foundation and some other projects that build trust in the supply chain. Shane gives an overview of developments around open source and intellectual property over the last 20 years. We also learn about why OpenChain can be compared to shipping containers, and how organizations like the NSA have embraced Linux for secure US government operations.

    Guest:

    Shane Coughlan is a GM @linuxfoundation, advisor to the @worldmobilegroup, Assembly Member of @OpenForumEurope. He is an expert in communication, security, and business development. His professional accomplishments include  

    • building the largest open source governance community in the world through the OpenChain Project 
    • spearheading the licensing team that made Open Invention Network (OIN) the largest patent non-aggression community in history  
    • establishing the first global network for open source legal experts.  

    Shane is a founder of both the first law journal and the first law book dedicated to open source. Currently – among other things – he leads the OpenChain Project. 

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    OpenSearch | feat. Pallavi Priyadarshini16 Oct 202500:38:32

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Juergen Walter, Pallavi Priyadarshini and Karsten Schnitter about OpenSearch. OpenSearch is an open-source search, analytics and observability suite which has been enhanced with significant AI capabilities. 


    This episode showcases SAP’s current use of OpenSearch for observability on their Business Technology Platform and the project’s evolution from Elasticsearch, community-driven development, and AI advancements. Key contributions like FIPS compliance and OpenTelemetry integration are also covered. 


    Learn how OpenSearch is shaping the future by combining advanced full-text search, observability, and analytics capabilities—all community-driven and completely open source. 


    Guests:

    Pallavi Priyadarshini

    As Director of Search, Pallavi Priyadarshini leads Search at the OpenSearch Project and Amazon’s OpenSearch Service, including its managed and serverless offerings. She also serves on the Technical Steering Committee of the OpenSearch Project, helping guide the open-source platform’s technical direction.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pallavipr/ 


    Juergen Walter

    Jürgen Walter is an observability expert in SAP BTP observability driving ingestion and usage, certifications, and stability topics for SAP Cloud Logging and other services. He is a member of the newly formed OpenSearch Observability TAG and contributed improvements for OpenSearch ingest.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juergen-walter/


    Karsten Schnitter

    Karsten Schnitter is a software architect working in the observability area of the SAP Business Technology Platform. He is responsible for SAP Cloud Logging and other logging services for SAP BTP. Karsten is also a member of the technical steering committee at the OpenSearch Project.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-schnitter-7b85b174/


    Show Notes:


    Host:

    Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    Cloud Foundry – A One-Size-Fits-All Solution for Application Development28 Sep 202200:36:58

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Ruben Koster and Beyhan Veli about Cloud Foundry, a platform-as-a-service offering for application developers. Ruben and Beyhan talk about their personal journey with Cloud Foundry, how it works, and how it relates to VMware, Pivotal, and SAP. We also learn about their run for Cloud Foundry’s Technical Oversight Committee and their future vision for the platform.

    Guests:

    Ruben Koster has been a Cloud Foundry and BOSH consultant for 8 years before he joined VMware in the spring of 2021. He comes from the Netherlands, works in Sweden, and is also an aspiring member of the TOC.

    Beyhan Veli has been active in the CF community for over seven years. He started to contribute as a member of the BOSH team at SAP.A year ago, he took on a broader role at SAP and now also looks into other areas of CF and general topics from a Cloud Foundry application developer perspective. In the CF Community, Beyhan is the technical lead in the Foundational Infrastructure working group and an aspiring member of the TOC.

    Show Notes:
    • SAP Open Source Program Office


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    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    wdi5 – UI5’s Open-Source End-to-End Testing Framework27 Jul 202200:31:10

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Volker Buzek and Peter Muessig about wdi5, an open-source end-to-end testing framework for UI5. Volker and Peter explain the history of wdi5, how to use it, and how it became a community project. We also learn about planned features of wdi5 and how to best get involved.

    Guests:

    Volker Buzek is an IT-Architect at j&s-soft GmbH with a focus on web-based and mobile architectures. He is also an SAP Mentor and the inventor of wdi5.

    Peter Muessig has worked for SAP since 2005 and is an initial member of the Phoenix Project. Today, he is the Chief Development Architect for UI5 and focuses on its evolution. In his spare time, he is an active member of the UI5 open source community.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Open Source at VMware – Key Driver of Innovation29 Jun 202200:26:27

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guest Dr. Dawn Foster, PhD. from VMware about VMware’s open source strategy, and the importance of community and project health. Dawn explains project health metrics, how they contribute to improving projects, and how well-documented processes and governance help scale communities and keep them healthy. We also learn about Dawn’s impressive experience in the IT industry as she takes us through the various stages of her professional and academic career.

    Guest:

    Dr. Dawn Foster, PhD. has been working in open source for more than 20 years at companies like Intel and Puppet. At VMware, she leads the community strategy efforts within the Open Source Program Office. She is a Governing Board member and maintainer for the CHAOSS metrics project, a Steering Committee member for the TODO Group, and co-chair of the CNCF Contributor Strategy Technical Advisory Group. She is also on the board of OpenUK.

    Show Notes:
    • Links

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Open Source at Microsoft – ClearlyDefined and Open-Source Supply Chain Security25 May 202200:30:20

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Nell Shamrell-Harrington from Microsoft and Sebastian Wolf from SAP about ClearlyDefined, a central data store for all open-source licenses across many different open-source ecosystems, and open source supply chain security at Microsoft. Nell explains both projects, talks about Microsoft’s open source history and evolution, and we also learn about the differences and similarities between Microsoft and SAP’s open source engagement from Sebastian.

    Guest:

    Nell Shamrell-Harrington is a principal software engineer at Microsoft in the Azure Office of the CTO, and former lead engineer for ClearlyDefined. She is also on the board of directors of the RUST foundation.

    Sebastian Wolf is a development architect and has been working for the SAP Open Source Program Office (OSPO) since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP back in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions – for example at SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Gaia-X, Catena-X, International Data Spaces – Three Initiatives, One Goal27 Apr 202200:34:50

    How these open-source initiatives contribute to securely processing, sharing, and managing data across organizations

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with Nemrude “Rudi” Verzano, head of Industry 4.0 and Digital Supply Chain Innovation at SAP, about the open-source initiatives in Gaia-X, Catena-X, and International Data Spaces that represent some of the cooperation efforts between the Fraunhofer Institute and some of SAP’s large customers. Rudi explains the initiatives’ goals, how they came to be, and what benefits they offer. We also learn why joining forces with others can sometimes lead to the best results.

    Guest:

    Nemrude “Rudi” Verzano is head of Industry 4.0 and Digital Supply Chain Innovation at SAP. Before that, he was a consultant at SAP and a freelance consultant focusing on integration and interoperability challenges in different industries.

    LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nemrude-verzano-489a3717a/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Mercedes-Benz FOSS – Open Source in the Automotive Industry30 Mar 202200:26:21

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Wolfgang Gehring and Christian Wege about FOSS at Mercedes-Benz Group AG. Wolfgang and Christian explain how and why Mercedes-Benz enables their employees to become and stay active in open source, which open-source projects they are working on, and how they contribute to the open-source world outside of Mercedes-Benz. We also learn why a so-called driver’s license is essential for working on open-source projects as a Mercedes-Benz employee.

    Guests:

    Inspired by the InnerSource movement more than five years ago, Dr. Wolfgang Gehring turned into an ambassador for InnerSource and open source and has been spreading the idea within Mercedes-Benz and its IT-subsidiary Daimler TSS. A software engineer by trade, Wolfgang’s goal is to enable Mercedes-Benz to accelerate their open-source activities.

    Dr. Christian Wege has a background in informatics, leading the IT team of the Mercedes-Benz FOSS Center of Competence. Before this, he worked on FOSS topics at Mercedes-Benz Group AG for more than ten years and has been one of the initiators to propose FOSS as a strategic initiative. He strives to make the voice of the developer heard in the creation of the FOSS governance processes and to establish FOSS within Mercedes-Benz.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Eclipse Dirigible – An Open-Source Platform for End-To-End Rapid Development of Business Applications23 Feb 202200:30:57

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with Yordan Pavlov and Dragomir Anachkov about the open-source projects Eclipse Dirigible, an application platform, and XSK, an environment compatible with SAP HANA Extended Application Services (XS). Yordan and Dragomir explain the projects, how they relate to each other, why they were open-sourced, and the benefits they offer. We also learn how they differ from similar projects out there and how to best contribute to them.

    Guests:

    Yordan Pavlov is project lead of Eclipse Dirigible and solution architect for the project XSK, both open-source projects. He is also one of the major contributors to the two GitHub repositories. Yordan joined SAP in 2013 and was part of the core teams working on what is now known as SAP BTP. Recently, he switched his focus mostly toward helping SAP customers and partners to migrate and develop their solutions to SAP BTP.

    SAP Community: https://people.sap.com/yordan.pavlov
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-pavlov/

    Dragomir Anachkov has been a User Assistance Developer at SAP since 2016. Apart from writing documentation, he is also an avid video creator. He has been working on the Eclipse Dirigible project for the past four years by contributing to its documentation and YouTube channel.

    SAP Community: https://people.sap.com/dragomir.anachkov
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dragomir-anachkov-b45b098b/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    SapMachine – The OpenJDK for All Things SAP29 Dec 202100:35:20

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Christoph Langer and Thomas Stüfe about SapMachine, an SAP-distributed version of OpenJDK. Christoph and Thomas explain what SapMachine is, how it came to be and evolved, and why SAP contributes to the OpenJDK. We also learn about the difference between SapMachine, OpenJDK, and SAP JVM, and how to best get involved.

    Guests:

    Thomas joined SAP in 2000. He spent a lot of his career writing and optimizing low-level C/C++ software and porting it to strange architectures. Having joined the JVM team in 2004, he worked on the VM Container, the SAP JVM, and the SapMachine. He is passionate about JVM technology and the OpenJDK project, and a significant contributor to the latter.

    Homepage: https://stuefe.de

    Christoph is an SAP Development Manager heading the SapMachine team. He is also a committer and reviewer in the OpenJDK project, and a maintainer of JDK Update releases. He started his professional career with porting SAP solutions to IBM platforms and got in touch with several Java Virtual Machines during this time. Later, he joined the SAP JVM team as a support engineer and from there developed into an allrounder in the JDK space.

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/therealclanger

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    The Open Documentation Initiative – The Gold Standard of Collaborative Documentation24 Nov 202100:28:43

    In this episode, Karsten Hohage talks with our guests DJ Adams and Jens Haley about the Open Documentation Initiative, an initiative to make the documentation of SAP Business Technology Platform content collaborative and interactive. DJ and Jens explain the project’s current status, where it’s heading, and what makes it so unique. We also learn how to get involved and what the different types of collaboration are.

    Guests:

    Jens Haley:
    Jens is a User Assistance Development Architect at SAP and has been with SAP for more than 20 years. After having worked as an author, he was later responsible for coordinating the delivery of bigger documentation projects. He is the workstream lead for the technical implementation of the Open Documentation Initiative.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jens-haley-34889942/

    DJ Adams:

    DJ is a Developer Advocate at SAP and has been working in the SAP technical ecosphere since 1987. He studied Ancient Greek, Latin and Philology at University and has written books for O’Reilly and SAP Press. He is the community lead for the Open Documentation Initiative.

    Website: https://qmacro.org

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Compiler History – The Open Source in Your Favorite 1990s First-Person Shooter27 Oct 202100:35:00

    In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Jack Schueler and Sebastian Wolf about Watcom, a spinoff of the University of Waterloo from the 1980s. Jack, who is one of the founding employees of Watcom, talks about how the Watcom C/C++ project came to be, how it evolved over time, how it was open sourced in 2002, and what it is today. He also shares his personal journey and how he ultimately came to work at SAP. Along the way, we learn a lot about programming over the past five decades and how Watcom played an essential part in the development of Doom and Quake.

    Guests:

    Jack Schueler

    Jack has been a software developer since the 1970s. By virtue of successive acquisitions, he is now a senior software developer at SAP. Over the span of more than 40 years, Jack has been involved in the development of computer language compilers and interpreters, as well as SQL database software and related client tools and documentation. His current job is to support customers by investigating and resolving the tough issues and continually improving SAP software and documentation.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-schueler/

    Sebastian Wolf

    Sebastian is a development architect and has been working for the SAP Open Source Program Office (OSPO) since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP back in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions – for example at SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture.

    GitHub: https://github.com/Wunderfitz
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ygriega

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    OpenMCP17 Sep 202500:24:30

    In this episode Karsten Hohage, Johannes Ott and Maximilian Techritz talk about Open Managed Control Planes – an open source project that allows you to orchestrate any aspect of a cloud landscape using one declarative API.


    Johannes Ott and Maximilian Techritz, who are both software engineers at SAP, talk about Open Managed Control Planes – an open source project that allows you to orchestrate any aspect of a cloud landscape using one declarative API. This is made possible by harmonizing different open source tools in the Kubernetes ecosystem. Johannes and Maximilian will show why this project solves reoccurring challenges in enterprises, how it works and what organizations need to get started.


    Guests:

    Maximilian Techritz

    Maximilian Techritz is a Software Engineer and Developer Advocate at SAP. He is one of the contributors to Open Managed Control Planes and shares excitement around tools in the Kubernetes ecosystem to a growing community within SAP and externally.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilian-techritz 


    Johannes Ott

    Johannes Ott is a Software Engineer and Developer Advocate at SAP and one of the contributors to Open Managed Control Planes. He actively shares best practices around Infrastructure as Data and promotes tools around the Kubernetes ecosystem within SAP and the open source community.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannes-ott-00a74949/


    Show Notes:


    Host:

    Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/


    Fundamental Library – An Open Source Library for Everyone29 Sep 202100:30:00

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Mladen Droshev and Fabian Tempel about the Fundamental Library, an open-source library created to help application developers align the user experience based on any web application framework with the SAP Fiori Design. Mladen and Fabian talk about their own Fundamental Library journey, explain the benefits of using it, and how to best get started.

    Guests:

    Mladen is the architect and product owner of Fundamental Library. He was part of UI5 for one year and then later joined Hybris, where they had free beer at the office. After the acquisition, he stayed at SAP Canada (even though they canceled the free beer!). People call him Deno.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/droshev/

    Fabian Tempel is a senior frontend developer who focuses on HTML and CSS. He is also a web accessibility expert in the Cloud Integration Accelerators team and is known as a “CSS Guru” within SAP. He joined Fundamentals as a contributor.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-tempel/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Rust – A Language on the Rise28 Jul 202100:32:42

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests André Borrmann and Philipp Degler about Rust, a programming language that was open-sourced from the start. Philipp and André talk about Rust’s evolution, explain its growing popularity within the community, and explore the possibilities it offers. We also learn why a strict compiler is better than a friendly one and why working with Rust can sometimes feel like raising a child.

    Guests:

    André celebrated his 10th anniversary at SAP last year. He started as an SAP Solution Manager consultant and ABAP developer and is now part of the Strategic Development Projects team as Full Stack Development Expert. He supports and drives strategic implementation projects and explores new technologies.
    Last year he started the SAP internal knowledge transfer series “Rust – What the Crab?” to spread the knowledge about Rust within SAP.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andr%C3%A9-borrmann-21434212/
    Xing: https://www.xing.com/profile/Andre_Borrmann

    Philipp is a professional C/C++ developer at day and a passionate Rust developer at night. He joined SAP in 1999. Since then he has worked in different areas, from high level ABAP application development to low level systems development. Currently, he works as a development expert in the ABAP language group. Together with André he runs the Rust@SAP community.

    XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Philipp_Degler

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    SAP Cloud SDK – Why Open Source is the Way to Go30 Jun 202100:32:24

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Marika Marszalkowski and Frank Essenberger about the SAP Cloud SDK, an NPM library which helps develop web applications on SAP’s Business Technology Platform. We learn about the evolution and benefits of the SDK, the differences and similarities of its Java and JavaScript flavors, SAP’s decision to run it as an open source project, and the challenges and benefits associated with all this. Marika and Frank also explain how to best get started with the SDK on GitHub.

    Guests:

    Marika Marszalkowski is a senior developer and takes care of the SAP Cloud SDK for JavaScript and TypeScript. She joined the SAP Innovation Center Potsdam in 2014 as a developer, where she initially focused on frontend development and was later responsible for leading the SDK’s transition from closed source to open source. Marika holds a master’s degree in IT Systems Engineering.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marika-marszalkowski-8a1322172/

    Frank Essenberger is a senior developer in the SAP Cloud SDK team in Potsdam. He holds a Ph.D. in Physics and joined SAP in 2017. After having worked on different cloud applications like SAP RealSpend, he now works on the Cloud SDK.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-essenberger-0023351b8/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    License Compliance – From risks to developer friendly processes26 May 202100:28:57

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with Dobrinka Mladenova and Janaka Bohr about how the license compliance processes for open source at SAP evolved over the past 20 years. By, for example, implementing automation, tools, and standardization, SAP now has a developer-friendly approach and at the same time addresses crucial customer concerns. Dobrinka and Janaka speak about OpenChain, the international standard for open source compliance, and discuss SAP’s involvement in ClearlyDefined. We will also find out why it sometimes takes a postcard or a beer to be license compliant.

    Guests:

    Dobrinka Mladenova has been part of the SAP family since 2010. She specializes on licensing and legal matters. Currently, she is a senior licensing specialist in the Global Licensing department based in Walldorf, Germany. Dobrinka focuses on open source license compliance and risk mitigation. She is primarily responsible for SAP M&A (merger and acquisition) licensing due diligence and leads the end-to-end processes from pre-acquisition to full post-merger integration into SAP standards. Dobrinka holds a Master of Law degree

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dobrinka-mladenova-16a39236/

    Janaka Bohr joined SAP in 2001 as strategic technology partner manager. He managed various key technology partnerships for SAP and established the company’s open source governance process together with the legal department of SAP. Today, Janaka is Head of the Licensing Compliance team within SAP Global Licensing. Among other topics he manages all aspects around open source governance at SAP and is responsible for the strategic direction in this area.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    ZEISS and SAP – An Open Source Talk28 Apr 202100:32:42

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Holger Streidl, Corporate Open Source Officer at Carl Zeiss AG and Peter Giese, Director of the SAP Open Source Program Office. They address many of the questions that arise for an enterprise when establishing an OSPO and talk about the commonalities or differences of the OSPOs and their approaches at ZEISS and SAP – for example, when creating policies, building a legal framework, ensuring license compliance, or setting up training and education for the internal community.

    Guests:

    Holger Streidl
    Corporate Open Source Officer, Carl Zeiss AG

    Holger joined ZEISS in 2019 to work at the Digital Innovation Partners as consultant, trainer, and advocate for the utilization of open source and its underlying principles. He is responsible to evolve the open source strategy of the ZEISS group. His background is computer science. Before 2019, he worked in the area of health IT in the corporate world and in academia for nearly two decades. His first rendezvous with open source was in 2010 when he founded Medfloss.org, a repository indexing about 400 FOSS projects in the area of health care.

    Peter Giese
    Director of the SAP Open Source Program Office

    Peter focuses on refining SAP’s open source strategy, developing new tools and approaches for managing open source at scale and on further promoting InnerSource at SAP. Since joining SAP in 1996, Peter has held several managerial and executive positions in application and technology development. Before joining SAP, Peter worked as a researcher at Fraunhofer Institute for Experimental Software Engineering (IESE) and as a development manager at Kiefer & Veittinger Software Unternehmensberatung GmbH. Peter holds an M.Sc. degree in computer science from Kaiserslautern University of Technology.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Fosstars – A Rating Approach to Open Source Components31 Mar 202100:33:58

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Michael Bernhardt and Artem Smotrakov about Fosstars, a java-based framework that allows you to define various ratings for open source projects. The name “Fosstars” is a combination of “FOSS” for “Free and Open Source Software” and the concept of rating products or services with “stars”. It helps software engineers and architects to quickly assess various aspects of open source components, such as their security, maturity, etc. It is often difficult to analyze the actual code of all the open source components in an application and compare them with respect to various aspects. To make it easier, Fosstars offers ratings that are based on publicly available information about the projects, such as adopted security tools and best practices, activity of the community,  and many more. Thus, Fosstars is a project, that deals with other open source projects, making the natural approach to it – guess what – open source!

    Guests:

    Michael Bernhardt works as a program manager for SAP’s Open Source Security Strategy and DevSecOps lead in SAP’s corporate security organization. He also acts as a security advisor as part of the SAP Open Source Program Office (OSPO).

    Xing: https://www.xing.com/profile/Michael_Bernhardt6
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/SecOctoBear

    Artem Smotrakov is a security engineer with experience in development, quality engineering, and open source.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artem-smotrakov/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/artem_smotrakov
    https://blog.gypsyengineer.com/en/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Clean ABAP – Best Practices for Effective ABAP Code, Straight from the Expert24 Feb 202100:36:34

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Klaus Häuptle and Florian Hoffmann about the importance of having a readable and maintainable codebase to ensure sustainable development. Klaus and Florian started an internal repository with best practices for maintainable and readable ABAP code. Through info sessions with many hundreds of participants, intense discussions, and great contributions, SAP colleagues helped turn this into a treasure trove for modern ABAP’ers. Many developers asked if this would become available as a book, and if they would be allowed to share it with customers and partners. They soon realized that this initiative gained its early drive from its community and needed to remain part of that community. Thus, they opened it to contributions from inside and outside of SAP, hoping that this repository would help developers worldwide to make their ABAP code a little cleaner. In late 2020, they published the book “Clean ABAP” to help individual developers, teams, and entire organizations with learning and implementing clean ABAP.

    Guests:

    Klaus Häuptle is a software engineer who worked on different products and technologies in the areas of governance, risk, and compliance and supply chain management. During his career he has also been a trainer, coach, and product owner for agile software engineering. Currently, he mainly drives craftsmanship topics across SAP and is a curator for a large internal community with the intention to improve engineering topics by strengthening collaboration.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/klaus-h%C3%A4uptle-951a0349/?originalSubdomain=de

    Florian Hoffmann is a team architect and agile driver for SAP Business Integrity Screening, SAP Watch List Screening, and the SAP governance, risk, and compliance solutions, especially the microservice automated procedure. He is also a co-founder of ABAP Clean Code.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    OpenUI5 – A One-Stop-Shop UI Toolkit20 Jan 202100:34:39

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Andreas Kunz and Peter Muessig about OpenUI5. OpenUI5 is a JavaScript-based web user interface framework. One that specifically targets enterprise use cases, but can be used for any type of application. Andreas and Peter explain how OpenUI5, SAPUI5, and SAP Fiori are related and how OpenUI5 became an open source project. They elaborate why the modular structure of this probably largest open source project from SAP is an optimal fit for a community approach. Our guests also have some interesting examples how OpenUI5 has been used not only by SAP customers, but also by nuclear scientists as well as completely private individuals building an app for their kids. Overall, OpenUI5 engages a large community of contributors and followers, manifest in five-digit enrollment in online courses and very popular community events.

    Guests:

    Andreas Kunz works at SAP since 2005 and has been with UI5 from the very beginning in various roles, now as a lead architect. He is always eager to engage with the outside community and an advocate for openness and open source.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreas-kunz-dev/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/aku_dev

    Peter Muessig works at SAP since 2005 and is an initial member of the Phoenix project (a.k.a. UI5/OpenUI5/SAPUI5), who has grown into the role of a chief development architect for UI5. He mainly focuses on the evolution of the framework, the controls, and the tooling.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-muessig-7b40576/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/pmuessig

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Project "Kyma" – An Easy Way to Extend Enterprise Applications23 Dec 202000:37:41

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Krasimir Semerdzhiev and Valentin Vieriu about project „Kyma”. Kyma is an open source project built on top of Kubernetes that provides a platform to build extensions for cloud applications. Krasimir and Valentin talk about all the investigations, challenges, and learnings that come with such a project. We learn how and why Kyma got started, where the strange name comes from, and why it is an advantage for contributors that Kyma is based on Kubernetes. The episode also touches how Kyma scales, how it relates to other open source projects inside and outside the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) and how you can get involved.

    Guests:

    Krasimir Semerdzhiev is a true open source enthusiast. He works as a chief architect in the SAP CTO Office where he leads a Northstar Architecture workstream, defining the end-to-end experience for implementation partners and Independent Software Vendors (ISVs), who extend and customize SAP products. Having spent the last 20 years in technology development in various roles, he is a prominent evangelist for the adoption of cloud native architecture principles both internally and outside of SAP.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krasimir-semerdzhiev-84044a/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/evilyeti

    Valentin Vieriu works as a community manager of project „Kyma“. He has been tinkering with the Web for more than 15 years. During this time, he gathered a 360° understanding of how the Web works – from product management via UX, design, and front end, all the way to back end and DevOps. A passionate front end developer at heart, his new goal is to make sure machine learning becomes an easy to use concept for every problem to solve. Whenever you do not find him building web apps or training neural networks, he’s probably strengthening his knowledge about Kubernetes and cloud native application patterns.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentinvieriu/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/valentinvieriu

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Project "Gardener" – Managing Kubernetes at Scale09 Dec 202000:35:40

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Vasu Chandrasekhara and Tim Usner about project Gardener. Today, Kubernetes is the natural choice for running software in the cloud. More and more developers and corporations are in the process of containerizing their applications, and many of them are adopting Kubernetes for automated deployments of their cloud native workloads. There are many open source tools which help creating and updating single Kubernetes clusters. However, the more clusters you need and the more infrastructures need to be supported, the harder it becomes to operate, monitor, manage, and keep all of them up-to-date. And that is exactly what project Gardener focuses on.
    Vasu and Tim explain in more detail what Gardener does, why open source is the natural approach to such a project, and how it makes the lives of cloud developers, architects, and operators easier.

    Guests:

    Tim Usner

    Tim Usner joined SAP after studies in information technology. He started his career as a business software developer and later switched to the Gardener project in 2018. Besides his contributions to core components of Gardener, he has advocated the project at different events and supported development teams with their transition to Gardener and Kubernetes. He is passionate about working in the open source space where the project evolves every day, thanks to a growing and contributing community. 

    LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/timusner/

    Vasu Chandrasekhara

    Vasu Chandrasekhara studied physics and computer science and started his first job at SAP as a technology consultant. He went back into research in computer science at the European Media Lab. Both experiences set the ground for successfully creating several startups in the following years. He joined SAP again in 2015 as a chief architect in the Central Engineering Team working on cloud native subjects and projects. He initiated the Gardener project, helped to launch the Kyma project, and is otherwise an advocate for open source within the company.

    LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%91%A8%E2%80%8D%F0%9F%8C%BE-vasu-chandrasekhara-b570202/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    QEMU17 Jul 202500:29:16

    In this episode, Karsten Hohage talks about QEMU with Helge Deller from SAP and Alex Bennée from Linaro. QEMU, short for “Quick Emulator”, is a virtualization software that can be used to emulate various types of hardware. They discuss the open source aspects of QEMU, how it is used in various aspects of the software development lifecycle, and how it helps the software ecosystem.


    Guests:

    Helge Deller

    Helge is head of SAP’s Linux lab, which is responsible for the development, certification and support of SAP products on Linux. And in his spare time, he is a maintainer of the RISC and PA-RISC Linux port and various areas of the Linux kernel. And he contributes to QEMU.  

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helge-deller


    Alex Bennée

    Alex is a senior tech lead for virtualization and emulation at Linaro. Over his career, he has worked on devices from one-armed bandits to microwave communication systems.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbennee/


    Show Notes:


    Host:

    Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Outbound Process Made Easy – SAP’s Process and Tooling25 Nov 202000:32:38

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guest Fabienne Haag about the Open Source Outbound Process at SAP and how it was implemented. During the last few years, SAP has been actively initiating and maintaining its own open source projects. Many SAP employees contribute to these projects or to completely different ones. This led to the need to have a simple and transparent process in place. The new Open Source Outbound Process enables developers to easily and quickly start new open source projects and contribute to existing projects – both in a compliant and secure manner. The entire approval workflow is executed in Enterprise GitHub, which is close to the developer community and gives them an easy way to manage their open source contribution requests.

    Guest:

    Fabienne Haag

    Fabienne Haag works at SAP Global Licensing. She is responsible for compliance requirements of the usage of open source components in SAP products. In addition, she is deeply involved in the open source outbound process.

    LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabienne-haag-597a01173/

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    InnerSource Rocks11 Nov 202000:37:19

    In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guest Michael Picht about InnerSource at SAP and why it should be the default development model at SAP. InnerSource is the practice of applying methodologies and best practices from open source projects to in-house software development. In an InnerSource approach, projects are open for contributions from other teams. This implies that they accept and build on these contributions – just as an open source project would. The major difference are the boundaries: the community is in-house, it only consists of colleagues, and the codebase cannot be accessed from outside of the company. 

    By applying InnerSource in an enterprise software development context, you can increase quality, speed, collaboration, and developer joy. Moreover, especially large development organizations can break silos between different teams and encourage developers to expand their skills or use them to support cross-team projects.

    If you want to learn more about Open Source at SAP go to: https://developers.sap.com/open-source.html, follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sapopensource and share your ideas with us: ospo@sap.com

    Guest:

    Michael Picht

    Michael Picht works as a chief architect at SAP. Prior to this, he worked as a developer, software architect, project-, program and product manager within SAP application development with focus on supply chain management, business processes, and innovation topics. At the SAP Open Source Program Office his focus areas are processes, tooling, and InnerSource.

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-picht-249b7a149

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Corona-Warn-App: Behind the Scenes28 Oct 202000:39:24

    SAP collaborated very closely with the German Government, Robert Koch Institute, Deutsche Telekom, and other partners to develop the Corona-Warn-App in an open source approach. The app warns the users if they have been in close proximity to someone diagnosed with COVID-19. This helps to trace chains of infection and provides guidance to people who have tested positive. The decentralized approach and pseudonymization ensure the highest level of security and data privacy. In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to one of the community managers of the open source project, that was established to develop the Corona-Warn-App. If you want to learn more about The Corona-Warn-App go to: https://www.coronawarn.app/en/  or GitHub: https://github.com/corona-warn-app and share your ideas with us: ospo@sap.com

    Guest:

    Sebastian Wolf

    Sebastian is a development architect and works for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP already back in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions such as SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network and Central Architecture. He was engaged from the very beginning at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager.

    GitHub: https://github.com/Wunderfitz
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ygriega

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    Social Media

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

    Open Source at SAP09 Oct 202000:43:46

    SAP is the 9th largest commercial contributor to open source projects. Mostly known for proprietary software, almost all of SAP’s solutions touch open source in one way or another. The Open Source Program Office, founded in April 2018, has the mission to nurture and support the open source approach to software development inside and outside of SAP.

    Listen to our host Karsten Hohage and our guest Peter Giese why Open Source is important in a global enterprise, why it is a triple win for customers, developers and SAP, and why you need an Open Source Program Office. These and more questions will be answered in this episode. 

    If you want to learn more about Open Source at SAP go to: https://developers.sap.com/open-source.html and share your ideas with us: ospo@sap.com

    Guests:

    Peter Giese
    Director of the SAP Open Source Program Office

    Peter focuses on refining SAP’s open source strategy, developing new tools and approaches for managing open source at scale and on further promoting InnerSource at SAP. Since joining SAP in 1996, Peter has held several managerial and executive positions in application and technology development. Before joining SAP, Peter worked as a researcher at Fraunhofer Institute for Experimental Software Engineering (IESE) and as a development manager at Kiefer & Veittinger Software Unternehmensberatung GmbH. Peter holds an M.Sc. degree in computer science from Kaiserslautern University of Technology.

    Show Notes:

    Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)

    Social Media

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

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