In this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with one of Australia’s most fearless, funny and enduring voices - Kathy Lette.With more than 20 bestselling novels and a career spanning five decades, Lette has built a legacy out of saying the things women are often told not to say out loud - and making us laugh while she does it.In this conversation, Kathy unpacks the realities of modern womanhood - from the politics of ageing and the persistence of sexism, to the power of female friendship and the truth about love, marriage and divorce.She also opens up about her latest book The Sisterhood Rules, which explores the intensity of female relationships - including loyalty, betrayal, and why the friendships we build can be the most enduring relationships of our lives.This is a conversation about finding your voice, owning your power, and why life - and confidence - only gets better with age.In this episode, we cover:

• Why Kathy believes ageist sexism is the next big battle for women
• The moment she was told “no one wants to read about middle-aged women” - and how she proved them wrong
• Why women come into their power after 50 (and the “I’ll feck it” effect)
• The truth about marriage, divorce, and starting again
• Why female friendship can be life-saving - and sometimes devastating
• The inspiration behind The Sisterhood Rules
• The “pleasure gap” - and why equality still hasn’t made it into the bedroom
• Why humour is one of the most powerful tools women have

As Kathy tells us, never wait to be rescued. Build a life - and a sisterhood - that sustains you. Follow You’re Gonna Want To Hear This so you never miss an episode.

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Could you survive a volcanic eruption? It's a question Stephanie Browitt never thought she'd have to answer. And yet in 2019, a volcanic eruption on New Zealand’s White Island changed Stephanie's life forever. At just 23, she suffered burns to 70 per cent of her body and lost her younger sister, Krystal, and her father, Paul, in the tragedy. Seven years later, she's written a book about it. Out Of The Ashes has just been published, co-written with her mother Marie. In this episode of marie claire's podcast You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Stephanie shares, in extraordinary detail, what it felt like to be caught in the eruption - the moment she heard the bang, the fight to stay conscious, and the thought that kept her alive - getting back to her mum.What you'll hear is a deeply moving conversation about survival, grief, and recovery. Stephanie speaks openly about the physical and emotional toll of her injuries, the long road back, and the moment she had to relearn how to see love again. Today, she is an advocate for body positivity and resilience, using her story to challenge perceptions of beauty, strength, and what it means to rebuild a life after unimaginable loss. This episode is confronting, powerful, and ultimately, a story about love.In this episode, we discuss:

• The moment the White Island volcano erupted
• The fight to stay conscious and survive
• The loss of Stephanie’s father and sister
• The role of her mother in her survival and recovery
• The realities of burn recovery and rehabilitation
• Body image, identity, and learning to live with scars
• Grief, resilience, and rebuilding a life

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Content warning: This episode contains mature and confronting themes, including domestic and family violence, coercive control, and online abuse. Listener discretion is advised. Support links are listed below.

We’re releasing this episode now because while the holidays are meant to be joyful, they are consistently one of the most dangerous times of year for domestic and family violence. These conversations matter most when they’re hardest to have which is why this isn't another polite panel on "women's issues".

Today's episode is a forensic, unflinching examination of coercive control, the Amber Heard trial, Julian Assange, and the ways legal systems, media, and online culture are increasingly weaponised against women.In this episode of You’re Going to Want to Hear This, journalist Jess Hill and human rights lawyer Jennifer Robinson come together for what can only be described as a dark feminist legal thriller - grounded in evidence, lived experience, and hard truth.Jess and Jennifer dismantle the tired “he said/she lied” narrative, interrogate the misogyny unleashed during the Amber Heard trial, and expose how defamation law, PR machines, bots, and online abuse are used to silence survivors - both globally and here in Australia.The insights are confronting.

“If we literally arrested every man engaging in domestic violence, we wouldn’t have the prison space - a criminal justice response is never going to be enough,” Jess says, as the conversation explores how coercive control laws, consent education, and culture collide.Jennifer explains why representing Julian Assange was less dangerous online than standing beside Amber Heard:
“I didn’t face the same kind of online threats representing Julian as I did representing a woman who spoke out about her abuse.”The episode also goes deep on:

• The Julian Assange press freedom case
• The UK judgment that found Amber Heard a victim of domestic and sexual violence
• How defamation law and domestic violence now intersect in Australia to keep survivors quiet

“Neither Johnny nor Amber will ever see what you wrote on social media,” Jennifer warns.
“But the women in your life who’ve never spoken about their abuse will - and that’s who you’re really talking to.”This episode is for you if you’ve ever searched “what is coercive control?”, looked up violence against women statistics in Australia, or wondered why survivors are tried twice - once in court, and once online.Thank you for listening 

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In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with beauty entrepreneur, author and Trinny London founder Trinny Woodall for one of the most candid and compelling conversations of the season.

At 60, Trinny says she feels “fucking amazing” - but getting here required reinvention, resilience and a willingness to dismantle everything she thought she needed. She opens up about selling her beloved Notting Hill home to fund Trinny London, parenting her daughter as a single mother, and the loneliness that shaped her as a young girl and still shadows her today.

Trinny reflects on the myths and pressures around “ageing gracefully”, why she believes visibility matters more than ever for women, and the beauty rules that actually make a difference - including the skincare approach that changed her life after years of battling acne.

Trinny and Georgie dive into:

• What ageing in her 60s really feels like
• Why she believes “ageing gracefully” is often code for becoming invisible
• The moment she realised she had to sell everything to build her business
• Navigating motherhood, grief and single parenting
• The skincare non-negotiables she wishes every woman knew
• Why failure taught her more than success ever could
• What she hopes every woman takes into her next decade

This is Trinny at her most open, funny, unfiltered and deeply wise - a reminder that reinvention doesn’t have an expiry date, and confidence can be learned at any age.

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Yesterday, the Federal Court dismissed Bruce Lehrmann’s appeal, upholding the ruling that found he had raped Brittany Higgins in 2019. Today, Brittany Higgins’ voice feels louder than ever.

In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Brittany sits down with editor Georgie McCourt for one of the most open and unguarded conversations she has ever had. She speaks about the trauma of being believed so rarely in a system built to doubt women, the female networks that held her together, the online abuse and deepfakes that threatened to break her, and the year in rural France that she says “saved [her] life.”

Brittany talks frankly about fear, fury, grief, exile, healing and hope - and asks the question Australia keeps avoiding: What kind of country are we, if this is the best we can do for survivors?

A powerful, essential episode on gendered violence, digital safety, rebuilding after trauma and the women who make a seat at the table for one another.

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An unlikely but perfect pairing, comedian Celeste Barber and supermodel Cindy Crawford sit down for a wildly entertaining, surprisingly raw conversation about reinvention, real bodies, and what confidence really looks like beyond the filters and the runway lights. Celebrating Marie Claire's 30th birthday in style at a unique parody cover shoot.

From viral parody queen to beauty founder, and from original ’90s supermodel to ageless icon, they unpack how to stop chasing perfection and start owning the skin you’re in at any age. This is body positivity, comedy, and celebrity storytelling rolled into one binge-worthy episode.​

You’ll hear Celeste’s take on why “how I look, and my body, is the least interesting thing about me” and why she’s done with the beauty industry’s “bullshit” rules around women’s bodies. Cindy shares what it’s really like to age in the spotlight, why she believes “aging is a privilege,” and how “age maintenance” is about feeling strong and present in your life—not trying to look 20 forever. Together they swap backstage stories, mum moments, and the small daily rituals that keep them grounded when the world is watching.

This is the ultimate self-acceptance conversation...with a sneak peak into Cindy Crawford's beautiful lounge room. Trust us 'You're Gonna Want To Hear This'

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In this eye-opening, juicy episode, Leslie Bibb candidly shares her experiences with “bad boyfriends” and the “big lessons” that shaped her personal growth. She dives deep into the imposter syndrome that “just won’t quit,”alongside Georgie McCourt revealing how she confronts self-doubt in both her personal and professional life. Leslie’s authenticity shines through as she reflects, “You have to learn to trust yourself, even when your mind tries to convince you otherwise.

If you’re interested in topics like overcoming imposter syndrome, relationship lessons, personal empowerment, and mental wellness, this episode is tailor-made for you. Tune in to hear Leslie Bibb’s inspiring journey and gain valuable insights on resilience, self-trust, and navigating life’s challenges with grace. Don’t miss this conversation packed with raw honesty and big takeaways that resonate with anyone striving for growth and confidence. Trust us you’re gonna want to hear this! 

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What a combination and creative minds! Step inside Marie Claire’s exclusive space for another candid conversation where fun and frankness takes centre stage. Australian icons Asher Keddie and Liane Moriarty dissect art, ambition, and the reality of writing and acting “complex, layered characters.”, Liane reveals: “I am really interested in when people are different than what they appear—I’m fascinated by behaving in one way, but… behind the scenes, struggling with that.” Giving insight into her incredible writing. 

From the set of Nine Perfect Strangers to the intimate details behind Offspring and Big Little Lies, these two trailblazers open up about creative collaboration, evolving ambition, and embracing the label “women’s fiction.” Liane ponders, “Should I, in fact, embrace women’s fiction because most of my readers are women, and I love doing these events, and it’s all women?” and what that means for women’s literature

Hear how “stories are so ripe to be explored on the screen,” why both women “dig and dig and dig until I can’t anymore,” and how the tension between comedy and drama defines their enduring success. Whether you're a storyteller, a reader, or simply “curious,” trust us you’re  gonna to want to hear this.”

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Melissa Leong knows what it means to start over—and in this powerful episode of brand new podcast ‘You’re Gonna Want To Hear This’, she tells OzHarvest founder Ronni Kahn exactly how she found the guts to rip up her life and begin again. From “listening to your gut” to learning that “discomfort breeds growth,” Melissa shares candid stories of moving to rural Tasmania, fighting imposter syndrome, and facing her sense of self-worth head-on.

Ronni and Melissa dive into what it really takes to reinvent yourself, discussing heartbreak, resilience, and the art of “being comfortable with being uncomfortable.” If you’ve ever wondered how to overcome fear and back yourself when life takes a sharp turn, this conversation will inspire you to “stand on your own, unadorned—and hold yourself.”

With heartfelt reflections on agency, aging, vulnerability, and kindness, Melissa reminds us: “You do not have to correct the narrative that exists or justify it in any way. Just by existing and living in your truth, you’ll be okay—and in the long run, everything will work out.” And Ronni’s message is something everyone needs to hear: “Kindness is free, and every single person would benefit from it.” 

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Jacinda Ardern (former New Zealand Prime minister and author of the gripping account 'A Different Kind Of Power') joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt for an intimate and inspiring conversation about leadership, empathy, and the challenge of balancing global responsibility with motherhood.

A new power of kindness and authenticity, leading with empathy. 

“I refuse to believe you cannot be both compassionate and strong,” Jacinda shares, echoing her hallmark approach to navigating tumultuous crises on the world stage. She recounts moments of self-doubt not as setbacks, but as signals to summon even greater courage in the service of others. “One of the criticisms I’ve faced over the years is that I’m not aggressive enough or assertive enough, or maybe somehow, because I’m empathetic, I’m weak. I totally rebel against that.”

Jacinda opens up about her time in office, reflecting on self-doubt, courage, and why kindness is one of the most powerful qualities a leader can have.

Together, they explore navigating crises, finding joy in the everyday, and raising the next generation with compassion and purpose.

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On an ordinary morning in a Sydney apartment building, Chloe and Christine - two neighbours who barely knew each other - were violently attacked by a stranger inside their own homes.Christine, a wellness therapist and yoga teacher, had just stepped into the shared laundry. Chloe, a photographer and mother of three, was working at her desk with her front door slightly open. Within minutes, both women were assaulted in separate random encounters by the same man - a dentist called Steven Lin from the Central Coast who has later shot dead by police. In this deeply confronting conversation, they share what happened, how they survived, and what recovery looks like just two weeks later. Their stories are raw, powerful, and ultimately grounded in resilience, instinct, and the unexpected strength that emerges in moments of crisis.

In this episode

• Two parallel attacks unfold inside the same apartment building
• The moment instinct takes over: fight, survival, and split-second decisions
• What trauma feels like in the immediate aftermath
• The emotional and physical road to recovery
• Community support, kindness, and unexpected connection
• The reality of women’s safety - even inside the home
• Where the system is falling short, and what needs to change

Support and resourcesIf this episode raises anything for you, support is available:

• 1800RESPECT (Australia)
• Lifeline – 13 11 14
• In an emergency, call 000

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In this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with writer and author Belle Burden for a conversation about love, loss - and what happens when your life changes overnight.

During the early days of Covid lockdown, Belle believed she was safe inside a happy, 20-year marriage. Then, within 24 hours, everything changed. A phone call from a stranger revealed her husband was having an affair. By the next morning, he had packed a bag, told her he wanted a divorce, and left. There was no warning. Just what he later described as “a switch” that had flipped.

In this raw and deeply honest conversation, Belle takes us inside that moment - and the aftermath that followed. From the shock of abandonment and the physical reality of heartbreak, to the patterns many women are now recognising in their own lives, this episode explores what it means to lose not just a partner, but the life you thought you were living.

Belle also speaks candidly about the financial lessons she learned, the expectations placed on women to stay quiet, and how writing her memoir Strangers became a way of reclaiming her voice.This is a conversation about devastation, but also about rebuilding. About identity. About resilience. And about the possibility that, even in the wake of something unimaginable, a new life can take shape.

In this episode, we cover:

• The moment Belle’s marriage ended - and what happened the night before
• The psychology of sudden abandonment and “runaway husbands”
• The physical and emotional impact of shock and heartbreak
• Why so many women are recognising themselves in this story
• The financial blind spots that can leave women vulnerable in long marriages
• Co-parenting, emotional detachment, and navigating life after divorce
• Rebuilding identity - and finding yourself again after everything changes

About Belle: Belle Burden is a writer and former lawyer. Her Modern Love essay for The New York Times was one of the most widely read columns of the year. Her memoir, Strangers, expands on that story - exploring marriage, betrayal, and the process of rebuilding a life from the ground up.

A note to listeners:This episode discusses themes of infidelity, divorce, and emotional distress. Please listen with care.

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What does it feel like to grow up knowing you don’t quite fit the system around you?
In this powerful episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, actors and advocates Georgie
Stone and Chloe Hayden sit down for an honest conversation about identity, difference and
the long journey to understanding yourself.

Both women know what it’s like to move through the world feeling “other.” For Stone, that
meant knowing she was a girl from a very young age, long before she had the language to
describe being transgender. For Hayden, it meant growing up autistic in a world that often
misunderstood - or outright misrepresented - neurodivergent people.
Together, they unpack what it means to finally find the words that explain your experience,
the labels that hurt and the ones that can help you understand yourself. They talk about
school, bullying, media representation, and how seeing characters who look like you - or
think like you - can change the trajectory of a young person’s life.
The conversation also explores the power and pressure of representation. Stone made history
as the first transgender actor to play a trans character in an Australian drama when she joined
Neighbours, while Hayden’s portrayal of Quinny in Heartbreak High has become a lifeline
for autistic viewers around the world.

Warm, funny and deeply thoughtful, this episode is about the courage it takes to be visible -
and the radical power of simply existing as yourself.

In this episode:

• Georgie Stone on knowing she was a girl from the age of two
• Chloe Hayden on growing up autistic and finally receiving a diagnosis
• Why labels can be empowering rather than limiting
• The impact of growing up without representation in media
• The characters that helped shape their identities (hello, Disney)
• Playing groundbreaking roles in Neighbours and Heartbreak High
• The pressure of representing entire communities
• Why simply existing proudly can be an act of protest
• The message they wish every young person could hear

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In this powerful and deeply personal episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie
claire editor Georgie McCourt speaks with Danielle Bensky - a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein’s
trafficking network - about grooming, silence, survival and the long road to reclaiming your
voice.

Before the headlines and court cases, Bensky was a 17-year-old ballerina in New York with
dreams of a career in dance. In this conversation, she reflects on how the intense culture of
ballet - with its pressure for perfection, body scrutiny and constant need for approval - created
vulnerabilities that Epstein later exploited.

Bensky shares how she was first introduced to Epstein while searching for ways to earn
money as a teenager, and how what began with conversation and flattery slowly became
manipulation, coercion and abuse. She also speaks candidly about the moment her mother’s
brain tumour diagnosis deepened Epstein’s control over her life.

But this episode is not only about what happened inside Epstein’s world. It’s also about what
came after: the years of silence, the trauma and dissociation that followed, and the healing
power of creativity, community and finally speaking the truth.

Today, Bensky is an advocate for survivors and accountability. In this moving conversation,
she explains why telling the story matters - not only for justice, but for the countless
survivors who still feel too ashamed or frightened to speak.

Her message is simple but powerful: you are not alone.

In this episode we discuss:

• Danielle Bensky’s life as a teenage ballerina in New York
• How grooming and manipulation often begin with trust and promises
• The culture of vulnerability within the dance world
• The moment Epstein used her mother’s illness as leverage
• Why so many people around Epstein remained silent
• Trauma, dissociation and the long path to healing
• How art and movement helped Bensky reconnect with her body
• The power of survivor communities Why speaking out can help break cycles of shame and silence

A note to listeners:
This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse, trafficking and trauma. Listener discretion
is advised.

Resources:
If this conversation raises difficult feelings for you, support is available.

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• Lifeline - 13 11 14

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Now before 2014, today’s guest, Dr Lucy Hone, was a resilience psychologist studying how people cope with stress, uncertainty and change. She was immersed in the science of flourishing, working with schools, organisations and emergency response teams – and basically, helping others navigate unwanted disruption. 

And then, on a bright morning in May 2014, her twelve-year-old daughter Abi was killed in a road accident. As a mother of an almost 12 year old daughter (and a 13 year old daughter), this feels excruciatingly heartbreaking to me. How do you actually get over something so unimaginably tragic? I honestly can’t imagine I ever could.  

In an instant, everything Lucy understood about resilience stopped being theoretical. She needed to find a way to live with what she describes as “the difference between where your life is, and where you thought it would be.” 

That experience reshaped her life - and her work. 

Today, Lucy is an internationally recognised resilience expert, bestselling author and the voice behind one of the most watched TED Talks of recent years, Three Secrets of Resilient People. Her new book 'How Will I Ever Get Through This?' has just been published. 

Lucy's message remains grounded and human: tough times are affected times are part of life - and with the right tools, we can all find our way through. Yes, we really can.  

In this episode, we talk about the myths of grief - including why the five stages don’t tell the whole story. We unpack why grief can be so physically exhausting. We explore intrusive rumination, post-traumatic growth, and bravery that looks like simply getting up and showing up again the next day.  

This is a conversation about loss. But it’s also a conversation about love, meaning and choosing life, even when it feels unbearable. 

We talk about: 

• Why most people are more resilient than they think
• The concept of oscillation - how you can live and grieve at the same time
• The difference between toxic positivity and pragmatic hope
• Post-traumatic growth (and why 60% of people experience it)
• The quiet bravery of getting up again tomorrow

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This week on You’re Gonna Want to Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Australia’s iconic Governor-General, Sam Mostyn, for a deeply personal conversation about power, purpose and the formula for a happy life.   When the Prime Minister called to ask whether she would accept the role, Mostyn had just 24 hours to decide - and couldn’t tell anyone. It was her daughter who cut through the noise with one simple question: Will it make you happy? In this episode, Sam opens up about: 

• Why so many women assume they won’t get the job - even when they’re more than qualified 
• The difference between determination and confidence 
• The early days of her legal career in Melbourne - including being told she couldn’t wear trousers to court 
• The equal pay arguments that shaped her leadership style 
• How to have difficult conversations without anger 
• Why “yes, and” can change the way you lead 
• The misogyny that still follows women in public life 
• Why care, kindness and listening are not soft skills - but strengths 
• And what happiness actually means when you’re holding one of the highest offices in the land 

From corporate boardrooms to national tragedy, from equal pay battles to representing Australia overseas, Mostyn reflects on what it takes to stay in the room and have hard conversations. This isn’t a political interview. It’s a conversation about service, resilience, partnership, ambition and the courage it takes to say yes before you feel ready.  Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. 
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In February 2014, Rosie Batty’s life changed “catastrophically and permanently” in a way most of us can barely comprehend. Her 11 year old son Luke was murdered by his father during what should have been a normal summer cricket practice. In the hours that followed, Rosie stood in front of cameras and, with extraordinary calm and clarity, gave voice to tens of thousands of victim survivors who had never been heard.

In this powerful episode of You’re Going To Want To Hear This, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Rosie more than a decade on. Together, they unpack the myths that still surround domestic and family violence, what coercive control really looks like, why “that moment after a woman might leave a violent relationship is often when she’s in the most danger", and how Rosie's own childhood loss shaped the way she navigated the unthinkable.

Rosie explains why domestic violence “happens to everybody, no matter how nice your house is or how intelligent you are”, and why we must let go of the idea that it only happens to “other kinds of women” in “other kinds of homes”. She talks through the reality of engineered abuse over many years, the way shame is still placed on the victim rather than the perpetrator, and the lifelong impact of trauma and PTSD.

This is not an easy listen, but it is an essential one – for anyone who has lived with fear, loved someone in danger, or wants to better understand the reality of family violence in Australia today.
If this episode brings anything up for you, please know you are not alone. In Australia, you can contact 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732  a confidential 24‑hour support service for people impacted by domestic, family and sexual violence

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On this week’s episode of Marie Claire’s You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, editor Georgie McCourt sits down with one of Australia’s most recognisable women - and hears her in a way we never have before. This is a show where fun and frankness is always in style. 

Fresh from her milestone 50th birthday and as the cover star of Marie Claire’s January issue, Megan Gale reflects on a life lived largely in public - and the private decisions she has fiercely protected along the way.

In a candid, deeply personal conversation, Megan opens up about what fame really feels like from the inside, the scrutiny and comparison that shaped her early self esteem, and why learning to care less about other people’s opinions has been one of the greatest gifts of ageing.

She revisits the 18-year-old who arrived in Sydney with big dreams, the Italian chapter that changed everything, and the surreal experience of walking runways alongside Naomi Campbell - before turning to where she’s landed now: clearer, calmer and more grounded than ever.

Then comes the revelation she has chosen to share exclusively with Marie Claire: Megan quietly married her partner Shaun Hampson in an intimate overseas ceremony - and kept it private for an entire year.

In the episode, Megan shares the details behind the decision, including:

Why she and Shaun chose to marry in Fiji at a place deeply meaningful to their family

How they planned an intimate ceremony with just their children and mothers present

The moment they told their families the night before the wedding

Why keeping the day private mattered after decades in the public eye

The joy of watching their children take part and why that made the ceremony feel complete

Megan also reflects on love, long-term partnership, motherhood, boundaries, perimenopause and communication, and why marriage didn’t need to change what already worked.

Warm, honest and powerful, this episode is a rare insight into the woman behind the icon.

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Maggie Walters has lived a life most people could barely comprehend.

Diagnosed in her twenties with Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder, Maggie came to understand that her mind had created different parts, or “alters”, to help her survive severe childhood trauma.

In her first book Split, Maggie shared the story of that trauma and introduced readers to “the girls”, the parts of her who protected her through experiences no child should ever have to endure.

Now, in her new book Fractured Motherhood, Maggie explores what came next: becoming a mother, adopting three children from the Philippines, and learning how to parent with love, courage and honesty while navigating DID, trauma and fear.

In this deeply powerful conversation, Maggie joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This and tells Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt about what DID really is, why it is so misunderstood, how trauma shaped her childhood, and how motherhood helped her break a cycle of intergenerational harm.

This is not a story about being defined by trauma. It is a story about survival, hope, identity, parenting, and the extraordinary ways people find a path forward.

This episode covers:

* Maggie Walters’ diagnosis with Dissociative Identity Disorder / Multiple Personality Disorder

* What DID really feels like from the inside

* How childhood trauma can lead to dissociation

* Why Maggie calls her alters “the girls”

* Writing Split and Fractured Motherhood

* Adopting her three children from the Philippines

* The fear of passing trauma on to your children

* Mothering while navigating mental health challenges

* Breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma

* Why Maggie believes change and hope are always possible

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Maggie Walters’ new book Fractured Motherhood is out now.

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For more than a decade, journalist and activist Sherele Moody has been documenting the stories too often reduced to statistics - every known Australian woman and child killed by violence.

Through Australian Femicide Watch and the Red Heart Movement, her work has become a powerful, living record - one that ensures these lives are seen, named and never forgotten. But this isn’t just advocacy for Sherele, it’s very personal.

In this deeply confronting and essential conversation, Sherele joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This to share the story that changed her life - the moment she discovered her stepfather was responsible for the murder of two young girls. A revelation that would go on to shape her life’s work.

From a childhood marked by abuse and instability, to building one of the most significant databases of violence against women in Australia, Sherele speaks with unflinching honesty about trauma, survival, and the cost of speaking out.

She also unpacks the systemic failures that continue to put women at risk - and why the question isn’t why women stay, but why it remains so difficult to leave.

This episode covers:

• The personal story behind Sherele’s activism
• The reality of femicide in Australia - and what the numbers miss
• Why domestic violence systems are failing women
• The emotional toll of documenting over 3,000 deaths
• How community, connection and action can drive change

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For decades, Lisa Wilkinson has been one of the most recognisable and trusted voices in Australian media - asking the questions, shaping the national conversation, and, at times, carrying the weight of the stories she tells. But in this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, she turns the lens inward.

Lisa joins Georgie McCourt for a candid conversation about what it really takes to build - and sustain - a career at the highest level. From backing her instincts early on (including taking a chance on a then-unknown Nicole Kidman), to walking away at pivotal moments, she reflects on the risks, reinventions and resilience that have defined her path.

She also opens up about motherhood, self-doubt, and the pressure many women carry - even at the height of success. At the centre of the conversation is her new book The Titanic Story of Evelyn  - a deeply researched work of historical non-fiction uncovering the story of Evelyn Marsden, the only Australian-born survivor of the Titanic. What began as curiosity quickly became something more personal - a story Lisa felt compelled to tell.

This is a conversation about instinct, evolution, and never standing still.

In this episode:

• Why Lisa says “none of it was guaranteed”
• The career risks that shaped her path
• The decision to step away - and what it taught he
• Motherhood, ambition and self-doubt
• The story of Evelyn Marsden - and why it stayed with her
• What it really means to keep evolving

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Paralympic gold medallist Alexa Leary joins us for one of the most raw and powerful conversations we’ve ever had. At just 19, Alexa was involved in a catastrophic cycling accident that left her with a severe traumatic brain injury. Doctors told her family she wouldn’t survive. She lost her memory, had to relearn how to walk and talk, and now describes herself as living a “second life.”In this episode, Alexa opens up about the reality of brain injury - the emotional highs and lows, the loss of friendships, the struggle to regulate her behaviour, and the daily challenges most people never see.She shares what it felt like to be told she might die, what recovery really looked like behind hospital doors, and how she went from ICU to standing on the Paralympic podium.We also talk about her new book Sink or Swim, why she’s chosen to tell her story so honestly, and the message she wants every woman to hear.This is a story about resilience, identity, and what it truly means to start again.

In this episode, we cover:

• The accident Alexa can’t remember - and the moment everything changed
• Being told she wouldn’t survive
• What it’s really like living with a traumatic brain injury
• Losing friendships and rebuilding relationships
• Emotional regulation, anger and recovery
• From hospital bed to Paralympic gold
• Why she says she’s living a “second life”
• The truth behind her memoir Sink or Swim
• Learning to love and accept herself again

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What actually gives women pleasure, and why are we still so bad at talking about it?

In this special Pleasure Issue episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys that make life better to the bigger, messier conversations:

They unpack the orgasm gap, why women are still statistically being left behind when it comes to sexual satisfaction, dating after divorce, sex toys, long-term relationships, kissing, quitting friendships, hobbies that don’t make money, and the joy of yapping.

They also discuss Marie Claire’s May cover star Sarah Pidgeon, her role as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy in Ryan Murphy’s Love Story, the ongoing obsession with Carolyn and JFK Jr, and why Carolyn’s style, mystique and story still have such a hold on women.

This episode covers:

• Marie Claire Australia’s Pleasure Issue
• The orgasm gap and women’s sexual wellbeing
• Dating after divorce
• Sex toys, desire and long-term relationships
• Why kissing still matters
• Hobbies, friendship breakups and small pleasures
• Sarah Pidgeon as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy
• Ryan Murphy’s Love Story
• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy and JFK Jr
• Fashion, beauty, dermaplaning and sex dreams
• Why women need to talk more openly about pleasure

The May issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Sarah Pidgeon, is on sale now.

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What does it take to sit across from one of the world’s most powerful men… and not flinch? In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Georgie McCourt sits down with legendary British broadcaster, journalist and author Emily Maitlis for a riveting conversation about career-defining interviews, the discipline of preparation, and why the best journalists never move on until they get an answer. 

From the now-iconic Prince Andrew interview to covering revolutions, elections and some of the biggest global stories of our time, Emily reveals what was really going through her mind inside Buckingham Palace, why she locked herself in a bathroom moments before that interview… and how years of being underestimated as a “silly little girl” became her greatest strength. 

She also opens up about motherhood in the public eye, the brutal early years of balancing young children with a high-pressure career, learning to lean into discomfort, and why women often become more powerful - - not less—as they get older. 

Plus, Emily shares the one piece of advice every woman needs to hear right now. 

In this episode, Emily shares: 

• Why great journalism is 80% preparation, 20% surrendering to chaos 

• The interview technique she swears by: “Don’t move on.” 

• What happened in the five minutes before the Prince Andrew interview 

• Why she never got angry sitting across from powerful men she believed weren’t telling the truth 

• How repetition, rejection and public mistakes built her confidence 

• The reality of raising children while living in the glare of public scrutiny 

• Why she feels more energised in her career now than ever before 

• Her next major investigation into the Epstein files 

• Her powerful message for women: “Choose your battles carefully… then fight for them.” 

If you’ve ever struggled to ask the hard question, back yourself in a room full of powerful people, or wondered whether your best years are still ahead of you - this episode is for you. 

In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support, or Blue Knot Foundation on 1300 657 380 for support around complex trauma and childhood trauma. 

Emily Maitlis is the author of Airhead: The Imperfect Art of Making News and co-host of The News Agents. 

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What happens when one of Australia’s most recognisable wellness voices, bestselling I Quit Sugar author and TED Talk speaker Sarah Wilson, stops talking about sugar and starts talking about the collapse of civilisation?

This week, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with journalist, author and activist Sarah Wilson for one of the most provocative conversations You’re Gonna Want To Hear This has aired yet, landing as Sarah launches her powerful new book, I Eat the Stars.

For more than a decade, Sarah has been researching what she calls collapse: the unravelling of the systems we’ve built around endless growth, convenience and consumption. In this deeply personal, often wildly funny and at times confronting conversation, she shares why she’s “broken up with hope,” why letting go of hope brought her relief, and why, despite everything she believes is coming, she says she’s never been happier.

In this conversation, Sarah Wilson joins marie claire editor Georgie McCourt to talk collapse, climate anxiety, AI, tech bros, motherhood, pregnancy loss, Paris, midlife reinvention, hiking, nature, philosophy, critical thinking and what it means to stay human in uncertain times.

This episode covers:

• Why Sarah Wilson says “I’ve broken up with hope”
• What collapse actually means and why Sarah believes we’re already living through it
• Climate anxiety, burnout and how to live with uncertainty
• AI, tech bros and why Sarah says “the robots aren’t coming”
• Why young women should study philosophy, critical thinking and the humanities
• The question many women are asking right now: should I still have children?
• Why Sarah says the answer is “absolutely”
• Pregnancy loss, motherhood, grief and finding peace with a different path
• Moving to Paris before turning 50
• French men, midlife reinvention and starting again
• Hiking, nature, mental health and cathedral thinking
• Sarah Wilson’s new book, I Eat the Stars

Sarah Wilson’s new book I Eat the Stars is out now.

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Why do so many women wake up one day and feel like they want out? In this episode of You’re Gonna Want to Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with renowned psychoanalyst and bestselling author Stephen Grosz for a conversation about love, resentment, affairs, marriage, desire, emotional labour, and the complicated reality of trying to build a life with another person without losing yourself. 

After more than 40 years inside the consulting room, and more than 75,000 hours listening to people talk about heartbreak, betrayal, longing and intimacy, Stephen has come to believe that love is not simply something we fall into. It is something we work at. Often, that work begins at the exact moment relationships stop feeling easy. 

Together, Georgie and Stephen unpack why resentment can quietly poison even strong relationships, why contempt is often far more dangerous than anger, and why many people do not leave because they have stopped loving their partner, but because they no longer recognise themselves inside the relationship. 

They also talk about affairs and what people are really searching for when they step outside a marriage, the emotional complexity of long-term love, the impact children can have on intimacy and desire, and why some couples emerge stronger after betrayal while others cannot recover. 

Georgie opens up about her own experience with marriage counselling, co-parenting, and the small daily rituals that can soften even the hardest relationships. 

This episode covers: 

• Why love requires labour 

• The resentment that can destroy relationships 

• Why contempt is often more dangerous than anger 

• The real psychology behind affairs 

• How children can change intimacy and desire 

• Why people leave because they dislike who they have become 

• The power of appreciation inside long-term relationships 

• What happiness in love can really look like 
• The line from Stephen that Georgie says “quietly rearranged the furniture” in her brain 

Stephen Grosz is the author of The Examined Life and Love’s Labour. 

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Have you ever stood in a room wondering why you walked in, burst into tears over something small, or lain awake at 3am completely exhausted? You’re not going crazy, and you’re not “just busy”. It could be perimenopause.

Dr Mary Claire Haver is one of the world’s leading voices in women’s health: a board-certified OB-GYN, menopause specialist and #1 New York Times bestselling author whose books The Galveston Diet and The New Menopause sparked a global conversation about menopause, and whose appearances on The Diary of a CEO with Steven Bartlett and The Mel Robbins Podcast have reached tens of millions of women. Her new book, The New Perimenopause: An Evidence-Based Guide to Surviving the Zone of Chaos and Feeling Like Yourself Again, is the guidebook women have been desperately searching for.

This one gets personal. At 44, Georgie has been told by her own gynaecologist that she’s “just busy”, then handed an HRT script with no explanation of how to use it. Dr Haver explains why that dismissal is so common, what’s really happening inside the body during the hormonal “zone of chaos”, and why suffering through it is optional.

In this conversation, Dr Mary Claire Haver joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk perimenopause symptoms, misdiagnosis, hormone therapy (HRT), brain fog, rage, weight gain, weight-loss drugs, osteoporosis, low libido, and the one message every woman needs to hear.

This episode covers:

• The perimenopause symptoms doctors dismiss: anxiety, rage, brain fog, insomnia, weight gain and low libido
• Why perimenopause can start in your mid-30s, 7 to 10 years before menopause
• How to tell the difference between depression, burnout, ADHD and hormone-driven changes
• Why so many women are misdiagnosed and prescribed antidepressants instead of hormone therapy
• Is HRT safe? The real benefits and risks of menopause hormone therapy
• Menopause and divorce: the viral “two camps” debate
• Why belly fat can double or triple in menopause, and why more cardio isn’t the answer
• Ozempic-style weight-loss drugs (GLP-1s), muscle loss and the “GPS” rule: GLP-1 + protein + strength training
• The osteoporosis statistic every woman needs to hear: 50% of women will have an osteoporotic fracture
• How vaginal oestrogen cuts recurrent UTIs (and sepsis) by 50%
• Low libido in perimenopause: the five causes of sexual dysfunction, and where testosterone fits in
• Dr Haver’s message: “Perimenopause is inevitable. Suffering is not.”

The New Perimenopause by Dr Mary Claire Haver is out now.

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses mental health challenges, including suicidal thoughts and ideation. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au. 

What if the person you're most afraid of becoming is yourself? 

Every month, writer Emma Hardy found herself trapped in a cycle of rage, despair, anxiety and emotional chaos. Then it would pass, and life would return to normal - until the cycle began again. 

In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Emma to discuss her debut memoir, Periodic Bitch: A Memoir of Menstruation, Madness and Monsters, a raw exploration of life with premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD). 

Together, they discuss PMDD, from uncontrollable anger and emotional outbursts to the relief and complexity of finally receiving a diagnosis. The conversation moves beyond the condition itself, examining how women's pain is misunderstood, dismissed or pathologised, and why conversations about female rage remain so uncomfortable. 

Emma also explores the surprising cultural influences behind the book, from horror stories and hysteria to medical research conducted on rats, and the question at the heart of Periodic Bitch: when is a mood just a mood, and when does it become an illness? 

In this episode: 

• What PMDD actually is, and why it's often mistaken for severe PMS 

• Emma's journey to diagnosis 

• Georgie's personal experience living with PMDD 

• The impact PMDD can have on relationships, careers and self-worth 

• Why female anger is so often labelled as madness 

• The link between PMDD, mental health and emotional regulation 

• Medical misogyny and the challenges women face when seeking treatment 

• Why PMDD remains under-researched and under-diagnosed 

• The fascinating stories of women whose crimes were linked to premenstrual disorders 

• How Emma learned to stop fearing her emotions and start understanding them 

This is a conversation about hormones, identity, rage, resilience and the stories women are told about their bodies. 

Buy the book: Periodic Bitch: A Memoir of Menstruation, Madness and Monsters by Emma Hardy. 

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More from Emma on Marie Claire: Emma Hardy is starting the conversation on PMDD women have been waiting to have

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What if the worst thing anyone ever said to you became the story that changed your life? 

This week, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with playwright, screenwriter and memoirist Lally Katz to talk about My Cursed Vagina, her brutally funny, wildly honest and unexpectedly moving memoir drawn from the past fifteen years of her life. 

Before the awards, theatre acclaim and Hollywood success, Lally was a woman searching for love in all the wrong places: emotionally unavailable men, disastrous dates, psychic readings, one-night stands, impulsive decisions and relationships that left her questioning whether something inside her was fundamentally broken. 

Then, during a snowstorm in New York, a psychic named Cookie told her she was cursed. According to Cookie, the problem was not just Lally’s love life. It was her vagina. 

What follows is a conversation that moves between laugh-out-loud absurdity and profound emotional honesty. Georgie and Lally unpack the stories women tell themselves about love, desirability, self-worth and the dangerous habit of mistaking longing for intimacy. 

In this conversation, Lally and Georgie talk about love, sex, shame, motherhood, creativity, heartbreak and the messy, humiliating, funny, deeply human things women do while trying to be chosen, understood and loved.   

This episode covers: 

• The psychic reading in New York that inspired My Cursed Vagina 

• Why women can mistake intensity, longing and obsession for love 

• The boyfriend who called Lally his “flatmate” for eighteen months and refused to give her a key 

• Chasing emotionally unavailable men across cities and continents 

• Tinder, one-night stands, dating chaos and romantic fantasy 

• Receiving a herpes diagnosis and deciding to talk openly about STI stigma 

• The advice that helped Lally stop wasting her childbearing years with the wrong person 

• Meeting the man who would become her husband and marrying him in Las Vegas three months later 

• Miscarriage, motherhood and wanting both creative fulfilment and family 

• Turning heartbreak into art and why writing everything down became a survival mechanism 

At its heart, My Cursed Vagina is not really about sex, psychics or even bad relationships. It is about the universal desire to be loved, the private stories women build around that longing, and what happens when a woman stops apologising for wanting everything: love, work, sex, art, adventure, children and purpose. 

If you have ever stayed too long, loved too hard, overanalysed a text message, mistaken pain for passion, or wondered whether everyone else has somehow figured relationships out before you, this episode will hit home. 

Listen now to You’re Gonna Want To Hear This with Lally Katz. 

My Cursed Vagina by Lally Katz is out now. 

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