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In this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with one of Australia’s most fearless, funny and enduring voices - Kathy Lette.With more than 20 bestselling novels and a career spanning five decades, Lette has built a legacy out of saying the things women are often told not to say out loud - and making us laugh while she does it.In this conversation, Kathy unpacks the realities of modern womanhood - from the politics of ageing and the persistence of sexism, to the power of female friendship and the truth about love, marriage and divorce.She also opens up about her latest book The Sisterhood Rules, which explores the intensity of female relationships - including loyalty, betrayal, and why the friendships we build can be the most enduring relationships of our lives.This is a conversation about finding your voice, owning your power, and why life - and confidence - only gets better with age.In this episode, we cover:

• Why Kathy believes ageist sexism is the next big battle for women
• The moment she was told “no one wants to read about middle-aged women” - and how she proved them wrong
• Why women come into their power after 50 (and the “I’ll feck it” effect)
• The truth about marriage, divorce, and starting again
• Why female friendship can be life-saving - and sometimes devastating
• The inspiration behind The Sisterhood Rules
• The “pleasure gap” - and why equality still hasn’t made it into the bedroom
• Why humour is one of the most powerful tools women have

As Kathy tells us, never wait to be rescued. Build a life - and a sisterhood - that sustains you. Follow You’re Gonna Want To Hear This so you never miss an episode.

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Could you survive a volcanic eruption? It's a question Stephanie Browitt never thought she'd have to answer. And yet in 2019, a volcanic eruption on New Zealand’s White Island changed Stephanie's life forever. At just 23, she suffered burns to 70 per cent of her body and lost her younger sister, Krystal, and her father, Paul, in the tragedy. Seven years later, she's written a book about it. Out Of The Ashes has just been published, co-written with her mother Marie. In this episode of marie claire's podcast You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Stephanie shares, in extraordinary detail, what it felt like to be caught in the eruption - the moment she heard the bang, the fight to stay conscious, and the thought that kept her alive - getting back to her mum.What you'll hear is a deeply moving conversation about survival, grief, and recovery. Stephanie speaks openly about the physical and emotional toll of her injuries, the long road back, and the moment she had to relearn how to see love again. Today, she is an advocate for body positivity and resilience, using her story to challenge perceptions of beauty, strength, and what it means to rebuild a life after unimaginable loss. This episode is confronting, powerful, and ultimately, a story about love.In this episode, we discuss:

• The moment the White Island volcano erupted
• The fight to stay conscious and survive
• The loss of Stephanie’s father and sister
• The role of her mother in her survival and recovery
• The realities of burn recovery and rehabilitation
• Body image, identity, and learning to live with scars
• Grief, resilience, and rebuilding a life

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Content warning: This episode contains mature and confronting themes, including domestic and family violence, coercive control, and online abuse. Listener discretion is advised. Support links are listed below.

We’re releasing this episode now because while the holidays are meant to be joyful, they are consistently one of the most dangerous times of year for domestic and family violence. These conversations matter most when they’re hardest to have which is why this isn't another polite panel on "women's issues".

Today's episode is a forensic, unflinching examination of coercive control, the Amber Heard trial, Julian Assange, and the ways legal systems, media, and online culture are increasingly weaponised against women.In this episode of You’re Going to Want to Hear This, journalist Jess Hill and human rights lawyer Jennifer Robinson come together for what can only be described as a dark feminist legal thriller - grounded in evidence, lived experience, and hard truth.Jess and Jennifer dismantle the tired “he said/she lied” narrative, interrogate the misogyny unleashed during the Amber Heard trial, and expose how defamation law, PR machines, bots, and online abuse are used to silence survivors - both globally and here in Australia.The insights are confronting.

“If we literally arrested every man engaging in domestic violence, we wouldn’t have the prison space - a criminal justice response is never going to be enough,” Jess says, as the conversation explores how coercive control laws, consent education, and culture collide.Jennifer explains why representing Julian Assange was less dangerous online than standing beside Amber Heard:
“I didn’t face the same kind of online threats representing Julian as I did representing a woman who spoke out about her abuse.”The episode also goes deep on:

• The Julian Assange press freedom case
• The UK judgment that found Amber Heard a victim of domestic and sexual violence
• How defamation law and domestic violence now intersect in Australia to keep survivors quiet

“Neither Johnny nor Amber will ever see what you wrote on social media,” Jennifer warns.
“But the women in your life who’ve never spoken about their abuse will - and that’s who you’re really talking to.”This episode is for you if you’ve ever searched “what is coercive control?”, looked up violence against women statistics in Australia, or wondered why survivors are tried twice - once in court, and once online.Thank you for listening 

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Credits:
Edited by Lou Hoyle, Pro Podcast
Editorial support by Madi Hodder
Produced by Thomas Crnkovic

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In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with beauty entrepreneur, author and Trinny London founder Trinny Woodall for one of the most candid and compelling conversations of the season.

At 60, Trinny says she feels “fucking amazing” - but getting here required reinvention, resilience and a willingness to dismantle everything she thought she needed. She opens up about selling her beloved Notting Hill home to fund Trinny London, parenting her daughter as a single mother, and the loneliness that shaped her as a young girl and still shadows her today.

Trinny reflects on the myths and pressures around “ageing gracefully”, why she believes visibility matters more than ever for women, and the beauty rules that actually make a difference - including the skincare approach that changed her life after years of battling acne.

Trinny and Georgie dive into:

• What ageing in her 60s really feels like
• Why she believes “ageing gracefully” is often code for becoming invisible
• The moment she realised she had to sell everything to build her business
• Navigating motherhood, grief and single parenting
• The skincare non-negotiables she wishes every woman knew
• Why failure taught her more than success ever could
• What she hopes every woman takes into her next decade

This is Trinny at her most open, funny, unfiltered and deeply wise - a reminder that reinvention doesn’t have an expiry date, and confidence can be learned at any age.

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Yesterday, the Federal Court dismissed Bruce Lehrmann’s appeal, upholding the ruling that found he had raped Brittany Higgins in 2019. Today, Brittany Higgins’ voice feels louder than ever.

In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Brittany sits down with editor Georgie McCourt for one of the most open and unguarded conversations she has ever had. She speaks about the trauma of being believed so rarely in a system built to doubt women, the female networks that held her together, the online abuse and deepfakes that threatened to break her, and the year in rural France that she says “saved [her] life.”

Brittany talks frankly about fear, fury, grief, exile, healing and hope - and asks the question Australia keeps avoiding: What kind of country are we, if this is the best we can do for survivors?

A powerful, essential episode on gendered violence, digital safety, rebuilding after trauma and the women who make a seat at the table for one another.

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An unlikely but perfect pairing, comedian Celeste Barber and supermodel Cindy Crawford sit down for a wildly entertaining, surprisingly raw conversation about reinvention, real bodies, and what confidence really looks like beyond the filters and the runway lights. Celebrating Marie Claire's 30th birthday in style at a unique parody cover shoot.

From viral parody queen to beauty founder, and from original ’90s supermodel to ageless icon, they unpack how to stop chasing perfection and start owning the skin you’re in at any age. This is body positivity, comedy, and celebrity storytelling rolled into one binge-worthy episode.​

You’ll hear Celeste’s take on why “how I look, and my body, is the least interesting thing about me” and why she’s done with the beauty industry’s “bullshit” rules around women’s bodies. Cindy shares what it’s really like to age in the spotlight, why she believes “aging is a privilege,” and how “age maintenance” is about feeling strong and present in your life—not trying to look 20 forever. Together they swap backstage stories, mum moments, and the small daily rituals that keep them grounded when the world is watching.

This is the ultimate self-acceptance conversation...with a sneak peak into Cindy Crawford's beautiful lounge room. Trust us 'You're Gonna Want To Hear This'

Special thanks: 

Celeste Barber

Cindy Crawford

See more from our 30th birthday shoot: 

Behind The Scenes 

Celeste being amazing 

The amazing interview continues 

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In this eye-opening, juicy episode, Leslie Bibb candidly shares her experiences with “bad boyfriends” and the “big lessons” that shaped her personal growth. She dives deep into the imposter syndrome that “just won’t quit,”alongside Georgie McCourt revealing how she confronts self-doubt in both her personal and professional life. Leslie’s authenticity shines through as she reflects, “You have to learn to trust yourself, even when your mind tries to convince you otherwise.

If you’re interested in topics like overcoming imposter syndrome, relationship lessons, personal empowerment, and mental wellness, this episode is tailor-made for you. Tune in to hear Leslie Bibb’s inspiring journey and gain valuable insights on resilience, self-trust, and navigating life’s challenges with grace. Don’t miss this conversation packed with raw honesty and big takeaways that resonate with anyone striving for growth and confidence. Trust us you’re gonna want to hear this! 

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What a combination and creative minds! Step inside Marie Claire’s exclusive space for another candid conversation where fun and frankness takes centre stage. Australian icons Asher Keddie and Liane Moriarty dissect art, ambition, and the reality of writing and acting “complex, layered characters.”, Liane reveals: “I am really interested in when people are different than what they appear—I’m fascinated by behaving in one way, but… behind the scenes, struggling with that.” Giving insight into her incredible writing. 

From the set of Nine Perfect Strangers to the intimate details behind Offspring and Big Little Lies, these two trailblazers open up about creative collaboration, evolving ambition, and embracing the label “women’s fiction.” Liane ponders, “Should I, in fact, embrace women’s fiction because most of my readers are women, and I love doing these events, and it’s all women?” and what that means for women’s literature

Hear how “stories are so ripe to be explored on the screen,” why both women “dig and dig and dig until I can’t anymore,” and how the tension between comedy and drama defines their enduring success. Whether you're a storyteller, a reader, or simply “curious,” trust us you’re  gonna to want to hear this.”

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Melissa Leong knows what it means to start over—and in this powerful episode of brand new podcast ‘You’re Gonna Want To Hear This’, she tells OzHarvest founder Ronni Kahn exactly how she found the guts to rip up her life and begin again. From “listening to your gut” to learning that “discomfort breeds growth,” Melissa shares candid stories of moving to rural Tasmania, fighting imposter syndrome, and facing her sense of self-worth head-on.

Ronni and Melissa dive into what it really takes to reinvent yourself, discussing heartbreak, resilience, and the art of “being comfortable with being uncomfortable.” If you’ve ever wondered how to overcome fear and back yourself when life takes a sharp turn, this conversation will inspire you to “stand on your own, unadorned—and hold yourself.”

With heartfelt reflections on agency, aging, vulnerability, and kindness, Melissa reminds us: “You do not have to correct the narrative that exists or justify it in any way. Just by existing and living in your truth, you’ll be okay—and in the long run, everything will work out.” And Ronni’s message is something everyone needs to hear: “Kindness is free, and every single person would benefit from it.” 

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Jacinda Ardern (former New Zealand Prime minister and author of the gripping account 'A Different Kind Of Power') joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt for an intimate and inspiring conversation about leadership, empathy, and the challenge of balancing global responsibility with motherhood.

A new power of kindness and authenticity, leading with empathy. 

“I refuse to believe you cannot be both compassionate and strong,” Jacinda shares, echoing her hallmark approach to navigating tumultuous crises on the world stage. She recounts moments of self-doubt not as setbacks, but as signals to summon even greater courage in the service of others. “One of the criticisms I’ve faced over the years is that I’m not aggressive enough or assertive enough, or maybe somehow, because I’m empathetic, I’m weak. I totally rebel against that.”

Jacinda opens up about her time in office, reflecting on self-doubt, courage, and why kindness is one of the most powerful qualities a leader can have.

Together, they explore navigating crises, finding joy in the everyday, and raising the next generation with compassion and purpose.

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