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What If Nothing’s Wrong With You?

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Frequency: 1 episode/24d. Total Eps: 34

Hi! We're Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa Kays, hosts of the What If Nothing's Wrong With You? podcast, and we're so grateful you found us. We are two psychotherapists who have been in the field for a long time, and we started this podcast to invite you into our ongoing conversations that explore the mental health field, psychotherapy, freedom and sanity. We investigate the history of psychotherapy, the way it is practiced, the roots of treating "mental illness", who among us is usually diagnosable, and the ways in which perhaps psychotherapy creates more harm than healing.

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Black & White Thinking (Ep. 33)

Episode 33

Thursday, April 9, 2026 • Duration 57:57

Binary (Black-and-White) Thinking: Why We Do It, How It Controls Us, and How to Get Free

Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa K. Kays, discuss binary (black-and-white) thinking and how it shows up in culture, education, media, and clients’ decision-making. Lisa shares reflections from Jane Goodall’s “famous last words” interview, emphasizing that there is no single “right” way to live and that the task is to be yourself. They define ambivalence (having mixed feelings) and cognitive dissonance (stress from holding conflicting beliefs or actions) and connect binary thinking to control, authoritarianism, and white supremacy culture’s “only one right way.” They explore how constant judging fuels anxiety, rumination, and defensiveness, why accepting being “the asshole sometimes” reduces manipulation, and how improv’s “yes, and” rewires rigid thinking toward nuance, paradox, and liberation.

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Mental Health In Chaos(Ep. 32)

Monday, March 9, 2026 • Duration 43:09

What If Nothing's Wrong With You?

Mental Health In Chaos (Ep. 32)

(Episode recorded September 2025)

Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa K. Kays discuss the core question “What if nothing is wrong with you?” in the context of todays societal chaos and fascism, especially in Washington, DC, where ICE activity and arrests are creating fear, restriction, and powerlessness. They note many clients “relapsing” into coping behaviors like food restriction, increased drinking, bingeing, and shopping, framing these as attempts to regain control or soothe, and warn that shame and self-ranking reinforce the very dynamics of white supremacy and fascism. They argue there are often no good options, encourage choosing with agency rather than conforming or rebelling, and emphasize “permission” over perfection, empathy without suffering Olympics, and supportive relationships.

00:00 Welcome and Big Question
00:58 Thunderbolts Movie Takeaways
04:34 Pop Culture and Fascism Jokes
05:26 Unicorn Girl Scam Podcast
10:28 Societal Chaos and Relapse
12:33 Life in DC Right Now
18:00 Control Soothing and Shame
21:11 Suffering Olympics and Empathy
22:39 Resisting In Groups
23:33 Empathy Without Centering
24:40 No Win Dilemma
27:09 Permission Over Perfection
28:50 Activism Without Burnout
30:03 Middle Path Agency
33:45 No Good Options
36:38 Drop The Virtue Tests
39:38 Shame Helps Fascists
41:24 Closing And Reviews

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Relationship Propaganda - Heated Rivalry (Ep. 31)

Episode 31

Tuesday, February 3, 2026 • Duration 52:41

Exploring Relationship Dynamics and the Allure of Heated Rivalry | What If Nothing's Wrong With You Podcast In this episode of 'What If Nothing's Wrong With You?' hosts Paula D Atkinson and Lisa K Kays, along with their friend Nnaemeka, dive into the societal conditioning around romantic relationships, discussing the concept of relationship propaganda. They focus on the importance of positive role models such as the show 'Heated Rivalry' and its departure from traditional relationship dynamics dominated by power struggles. The hosts also touch on the universal appeal of male tenderness, the concept of 'corrective emotional experiences' through art, and their views on the fluidity of sexuality. Join them for an enlightening and humorous conversation that questions societal norms and offers new perspectives on human relationships.

00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:35 Relationship Propaganda and Heated Rivalry

02:19 Chitchat and Quitting Things

06:02 The Power of Music and Art

07:12 Rosalia's Album and Movie Recommendations

12:12 Relationship Propaganda and Heated Rivalry Revisited

28:05 The X-Files and Patriarchal Comedy

28:42 Obsession and Starvation Analogy

30:04 Male Tenderness and Cultural Deprivation

32:25 Therapeutic Insights and Corrective Experiences

38:50 Challenging Straightness and Sexual Categories

42:04 Heated Rivalry and Cultural Impact

44:17 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

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Loneliness (Ep. 30)

Episode 30

Tuesday, January 6, 2026 • Duration 59:37

Exploring Loneliness: Understanding Its Roots and Finding Connection In this episode of 'What, if Nothing is Wrong with You,' hosts Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa K Kays, delve into the topic of loneliness. They address the male loneliness epidemic, discuss individual experiences with loneliness, and explore the societal and personal factors that contribute to this issue. The conversation touches on the importance of community, the pitfalls of modern parenting, and the impact of late-stage capitalism and white supremacy on social connection. They also recommend some books, share personal anecdotes, and offer insights into combating loneliness by building relationships with others and with oneself.

00:00 Welcome and Introductions

00:20 Discussing Loneliness

01:01 Book Recommendations

08:02 Therapy Horror Stories

15:11 Loneliness Epidemic

29:15 The Impact of Screens on Children's Social Lives

29:55 Parental Fears and Overprotection

31:55 The Loneliness Epidemic Among Adults

32:22 The Pressure on Parents to Orchestrate Social Interactions

36:42 The Myth of the Perfect Friend Group

37:38 Contradictions in Social Expectations for Married Women

41:53 The Importance of Building Social Skills in Children

42:20 The Role of Community in Non-White Cultures

51:10 The Need for Vulnerability in Friendships

53:47 The Value of Imperfect Relationships

57:47 Final Thoughts on Loneliness and Social Connections

The Lost Art Of Apologizing (Ep. 29)

Episode 29

Thursday, December 11, 2025 • Duration 59:16

In this episode of 'What if Nothing's Wrong with You?', hosts Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa K. Kays dive into the importance of apologies in our lives and therapy. Paula shares vivid details about her recent trip to Iceland, highlighting its outstanding natural beauty, culture, and how it's managed by women. The hosts also discuss why therapists and people in general should apologize more and provide insights into the implications of a good apology. They also talk about the cultural resistance to apologies, especially in a patriarchal and narcissistic society.

00:00 Introduction and Today's Topic

00:44 Iceland Adventures and Observations

02:18 Cultural and Social Insights from Iceland

07:50 Book and Media Recommendations

17:53 Therapy Horror Stories

23:51 The Importance of Apologizing

28:50 The Importance of Apologizing in Therapy

29:36 Therapists and Narcissistic Culture

31:17 Rupture and Repair in Relationships

32:15 A Story of Apology in Couples Therapy

33:29 The Culture of Being Right

35:10 The Power of Apologizing and Vulnerability

37:40 The Role of Apologies in Addressing Harm

38:51 The Impact of Apologies on Relationships

40:29 The Challenges of Apologizing in a Patriarchal Society

49:49 The Importance of Setting Boundaries

57:15 Final Thoughts on Apologies and Boundaries

Fascism (Ep. 28)

Episode 28

Tuesday, November 25, 2025 • Duration 56:39

Fascism and Mental Health: In this episode of 'What if Nothing's Wrong with You?' hosts Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa K Kays explore the relationship between fascism and mental illness. They delve deep into how fascism is a form of collective delusion, the inherent issues within imperialistic ideologies, and how therapy often supports these systems. The dialogue extends to encompass how individual mental health struggles are valid responses to the societal structure we live in. They also highlight the dangers of infinite loyalty to illusions and the importance of recognizing the interconnection of all humans. They also speak about taking action via apps like Five Calls and Ice Block to stay engaged in creating positive change.

00:00 Introduction and Focus

00:48 Middle Age Purchases and Power Washer Stories

02:51 Adopting Dogs and Their Impact

06:07 Indigo Girls Concert Experience

09:32 Jeff Bezos' Wedding and Wealth

13:01 Unreal: Behind the Scenes of Reality TV

20:07 Therapy Horror Stories and Boundaries

25:22 Introduction to Fascism Discussion

25:33 Introduction to the Topic

26:12 Defining Mental Illness and Fascism

27:15 Fascism as a Mental Disorder

29:11 The Delusion of Loyalty to Illusions

32:21 The Role of Anxiety and Discomfort

37:41 The Influence of Media and Pop Culture

41:32 Therapists and Ethical Dilemmas

47:17 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Protect Your Attention (Ep. 27)

Episode 27

Thursday, October 30, 2025 • Duration 55:25

Hosts Paula D Atkinson and Lisa K Kays do a deep dive into the modern obsession with attention. In this episode, we explore the mental health implications of constant screen engagement and discuss the reality of monogamy in today's world. Topics include the impact of AI on human cognition, changes in the perception of relationships, and the importance of awe in everyday life.

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Therapist Horror Stories (Ep. 26)

Thursday, October 9, 2025 • Duration 54:54

Therapist Horror Stories: When Counseling Goes WrongJoin hosts Paula Atkinson and Lisa K as they dive into an engaging and hilarious episode of 'What, If Nothing Is Wrong With You?' where audience members share their most shocking and hysterical therapist horror stories. From therapists falling asleep mid-session to wildly inappropriate disclosures, this episode sheds light on the importance of choosing the right therapist and recognizing when therapy may be doing more harm than good. Tune in for a blend of humor, insight, and audience participation in this captivating episode!00:00 Introduction and Audience Participation01:16 Chit Chat: Adult Swim Team Adventures05:19 TV Show Recommendations: The Righteous Gemstones08:45 Therapy Update and Reflections12:49 Therapist Horror Stories: Inappropriate Advice24:52 Therapist Horror Stories: Mishandling Coming Out28:52 Therapist Horror Stories: The Power Dynamics29:54 The Perils of Self-Disclosure30:31 Therapist Over-Sharing: When It Gets Personal36:33 Couples Therapy Gone Wrong44:02 Therapists Falling Asleep: A New Low49:14 Unhelpful Advice: Have You Tried...?52:39 Conclusion: Sharing Your Stories

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Friends & Ketamine (Ep. 25)

Episode 25

Tuesday, September 16, 2025 • Duration 57:46

Friendship and Ketamine: Deconstructing Cultural MythsIn this episode of 'What If Nothing's Wrong With You,' Paula and Lisa dive into the overlooked importance of friendships and the therapeutic potential of ketamine. They begin by discussing their reactions to the Netflix remake of 'The Four Seasons,' and how it reflects outdated notions of relationships. The hosts then explore the cultural devaluation of friendships, particularly stressing how systemic issues like capitalism, white supremacy, and patriarchy undermine community bonds. They share personal stories, insights from research, and highlight the importance of being deliberate and effortful in maintaining friendships. The episode wraps up with powerful reflections on prioritizing platonic relationships for better mental health and overall well-being.00:00 Introduction and Today's Topics00:36 TV Show Review: The Four Seasons11:22 Young Sheldon and Intergenerational Themes14:18 Book Recommendation: Educated by Tara Westover16:14 The Emerald Podcast and Media Consumption20:06 Ketamine as a Treatment for Mental Health25:53 The Importance of Friendships28:48 The Devaluation of Friendships in Modern Society30:34 Redefining Romance and Friendship33:57 The Origin Story of a Lifelong Friendship39:56 The Myth of the Core Friend Group50:37 The Importance of Friendships for Parents and Children53:58 Friendship as a Sacred Form of Love55:36 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

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Boomers (Ep. 24)

Tuesday, August 19, 2025 • Duration 01:08:17

In this episode of 'What If Nothing Is Wrong With You?', Paula D. Atkinson and Lisa K. Kays, dive deep into the complexities of the Boomer generation. They explore long-standing requests and discuss the historical, social, and psychological factors that have shaped Boomers into who they are today. Topics include the consequences of post-war trauma, lack of curiosity, over-identification with the country, and the struggles of growing up under Boomer parents. They also address the sensitive issue of going 'no contact' with difficult family members, providing insights into handling these challenging relationships.

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