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195: [Jenn Wilenta] Instincts Are Kicking In // Part 2

Episode 195

Friday, September 18, 2026 • Duration 36:38

Content warning: sexual abuse, sexual assault, sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, drug-facilitated sexual abuse, drug-facilitated rape, and rape.

Jenn Wilenta is a mother, survivor, educator, dancer, and advocate. After pursuing a degree in contemporary dance, Jenn reinvented her career several times to evolve with her burgeoning family. However, her trajectory would forever change in 2015 when she found a folder of videos on her partner-at-the-time’s computer. The videos showed her an alternate reality to the one she was living in, and life as she knew it changed forever. As a result, she would eventually seek justice within the criminal legal system, and cultivate her own sense of justice outside of it. This led her to begin vulnerably sharing her experiences in her social media-based series, Tiny Kitchen Dances, which then led to the making of her documentary, Tiny Movements. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful Jenn was willing to share her story so powerfully and eloquently for the sake of our audience’s awareness.

Support Jenn:
- Jenn's Website: https://www.jenniferwilenta.com/
- Jenn's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tinykitchendances/
- Tiny Movements Film: https://www.tinymovementsfilm.com/
- Tiny Movements on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tinymovementsfilm/

For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Thank you again to Lola Blankets & Honeylove for sponsoring this episode.

Don't forget you can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets <3

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194: [Jenn Wilenta] So Much More to Come // Part 1

Episode 194

Friday, September 11, 2026 • Duration 38:53

Content warning: grooming, sexual abuse, sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, drug-facilitated sexual abuse, sexual assault, drug-facilitated rape, and rape.

Jenn Wilenta is a mother, survivor, educator, dancer, and advocate. After pursuing a degree in contemporary dance, Jenn reinvented her career several times to evolve with her burgeoning family. However, her trajectory would forever change in 2015 when she found a folder of videos on her partner-at-the-time’s computer. The videos showed her an alternate reality to the one she was living in, and life as she knew it changed forever. As a result, she would eventually seek justice within the criminal legal system, and cultivate her own sense of justice outside of it. This led her to begin vulnerably sharing her experiences in her social media-based series, Tiny Kitchen Dances, which then led to the making of her documentary, Tiny Movements. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful Jenn was willing to share her story so powerfully and eloquently for the sake of our audience’s awareness.

Support Jenn:
- Jenn's Website: https://www.jenniferwilenta.com/
- Jenn's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tinykitchendances/
- Tiny Movements Film: https://www.tinymovementsfilm.com/

For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Thank you again to Rula for sponsoring this episode. Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod

193: [Kate Johnson] Survival Mode Felt Like Home

Episode 193

Friday, September 4, 2026 • Duration 39:59

Content warning: child abuse, religious abuse, religious trauma, child sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, mental abuse, intimate partner violence, sexual assault, and suicidal ideation.

Kate Johnson is a survivor, writer, poet, and occasional humorist whose work explores the process of deconstructing the evangelical beliefs and structures in which she was raised. A wordsmith who has also lived with a parent on the sex offender registry, Kate shares about the impact of her trauma, shame, grief, and estrangement. Her goal is to offer people inspiration and awareness amidst their own personal deconstruction process. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly appreciative of Kate's energy, time, advocacy, and her willingness to discuss hard truths in order to help ease others' trauma and lift their shame.

Kate on Substack: https://substack.com/@katejohnsonwrites
Kate on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katejohnsonwrites/
Kate on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katejohnsonwrites

For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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192: [Ginger Goetz] What if She's Set Free? // Part 2

Episode 192

Friday, August 28, 2026 • Duration 41:18

Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder.

Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has shared her and her mother’s story on many different platforms including Evil Lives Here, Deadly Women, Snapped, and more. She does so to honor her mother, Carlene, and to help others who may be navigating similar violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Ginger’s time, energy, and shared mission in grief. These two episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Carlene Conley.

If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.

For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help.

Thank you again to Cash App for sponsoring this episode.

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191: [Ginger Goetz] An Uphill Battle She Was Losing // Part 1

Episode 191

Friday, August 21, 2026 • Duration 39:19

Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder.

Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has shared her and her mother’s story on many different platforms including Evil Lives Here, Deadly Women, Snapped, and more. She does so to honor her mother, Carlene, and to help others who may be navigating similar violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Ginger’s time, energy, and shared mission in grief. These two episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Carlene Conley.

If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.

For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help.

Thank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. To get your new wireless plan for just $15 a month, go to mintmobile.com/wcn!

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190: [Liz] Like a Mime Trapped in a Box

Episode 190

Friday, August 14, 2026 • Duration 31:15

Content warning: stalking, child sexual abuse material, childhood sexual abuse, kidnapping, rape.

Liz is a mother and survivor from New York. When she was 14 years old, the police launched an investigation with her next door neighbor as the subject because they suspected he had a nefarious plan to groom and likely abuse Liz. After several months navigating an eye-opening, life-changing criminal justice process, Liz was left to heal largely on her own as her freshman year of high school ended. In this episode, Liz shares her poignant perspective of what it means to be a survivor and the reality of healing from adolescent trauma in adulthood. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her time, energy, & desire to help others by sharing her story.

For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Thank you to Rula & Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod

And all listeners can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets!

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189: [Rasul T. Freelain] I Have to Tell Sheila's Story

Episode 189

Friday, August 7, 2026 • Duration 43:23

Content warning: murder, parricide, matricide, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and false reporting.

Rasul T. Freelain is an author and award-winning, retired veteran of the Oak Park Police Department in Illinois. Throughout his 20-year career, he served in roles including Youth Services Supervisor, Patrol Sergeant, and Detective. It was amidst his work with children and families that he recognized the concept of child-to-parent violence, nearly a decade prior to meeting Sheila von Wiese Mack. Over the span of years, Rasul would be a resource for Sheila as she struggled through an increasingly violent abuse cycle at the hands of her daughter, Heather. Prior to Sheila’s 2014 murder, Rasul tried to see Heather face accountability for the abuse in a system that didn’t require it. With his book, When Lambs Become Wolves, he is hoping to bring awareness to the pervasive issue of Child-to-Parent Violence and Abuse and offer Sheila a chance to share her narrative after her murder. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Sheila von Wiese Mack.

If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region. For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help.

Support Rasul:
- Rasul's website: https://www.whenlambsbecomewolves.com/
- Rasul's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/protecting_lambs
- Rasul's Book: https://www.siupress.com/9780809339969/when-lambs-become-wolves/

188: [Jordan Wulf] Good Out of All of the Ugly // Part 3

Episode 188

Friday, July 31, 2026 • Duration 40:07

Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder.

Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.

Support Jordan:

- Jordan's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wulfboysmommy
- Jordan's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wulf.jordan
- Jordan's Petition: https://www.change.org/p/reform-divorce-proceedings-for-domestic-violence-survivors

Resources:

If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.

187: [Jordan Wulf] The Night I Gained My Freedom Back // Part 2

Episode 187

Friday, July 24, 2026 • Duration 43:07

Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder.

Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.

If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.

If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.org

For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

186: [Jordan Wulf] The Beginning of the End // Part 1

Episode 186

Friday, July 17, 2026 • Duration 46:25

Content warning: emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, torture, domestic violence, physical brutality, kidnapping, and murder.

Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.

If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.

For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Thank you again to Lola Blankets and Cash App for sponsoring this episode. You can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.

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