Vicarious – Details, episodes & analysis

Alex and Karen have a debrief of the season and all the great insight they’ve gleaned from their guests this season. They also tease what’s to come as they start to plan season 4.

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Wishing you all well as you tackle your own creative projects. Until next time!

Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.

Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

For their last interview of the season, Alex and Karen are joined by writer Morag Wehrle to talk all about the non-fiction memoir she is currently working on that centres around postpartum depression - connecting her own experience with that of a woman from the late 19th century who was institutionalized for the same condition. They discuss how the project came to be and the serendipitous nature of it; from the circumstances that led to Morag working on the book to her incredibly varied backlog of careers and passions that came together to aid in her research. Morag gives so much insight into her creativity and together they cover so many aspects of the creative practice, like creative biases and continuing to learn and explore in adulthood.

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Follow Morag @morag.tells.stories

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.

Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Creative Recommendation:

• Run Towards the Danger - Sarah Polley

Happy New Year everyone! Alex and Karen are back for a bonus episode to ring in 2024, and what better topic to dive into than New Year's Resolutions? They discuss their feelings about the term (spoiler alert: it's mostly negative) and share how they are reframing the idea so that it can better serve them as they venture into the year ahead. They give some tips for those who also struggle with the concept of resolutions, and share a very impassioned list of "Ins and Outs of 2024".

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If you have a hot take on the idea of resolutions or want to share your own, email or dm us on instagram!

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.

Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Creative Recommendations:

• Holisticism Podcast: Mini Series | Killing the Starving Artist Archetype
• Share Your Work by Austin

It’s the finale! Alex and Karen are joined by friend of the pod Jamie Lee to discuss the season as both creators and listeners. They answer some of the questions they’ve been left with as the season wraps up, like “did we solve the creativity vs creating debate?”, and reflect on their own creative journeys from the beginning of the season to the end. They also tease what’s to come in season three, and reflect on some of their favourite podcast moments to date.

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Follow Jamie:

Website: jamieleesounds.com

Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

For their last interview of the season, Alex and Karen talk to musician and composer Thad Bailey-Mai, and the topics are plentiful! They learn about Thad’s introduction to music from both his parents, and what it was like learning music at a young age with a dad who is a professional jazz trumpeter. They get into his unique style of composing orchestral pieces;  his other creative outlets; his chronic injury; and the burnout that’s led to his current self-appointed recovery period, discussing why it’s a crucial part of his (and everyone’s!) creative process and the very cool projects that await him on the other side. 

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Follow Thad @thadd.eus to hear his beautiful work!

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Creative Recommendations:

The Liq’wala Colouring Book by Moe Patrick-Barr:

• Canadian Amazon Link
• Australian Amazon Link

10% of proceeds go to language revitalization initiatives. Get your copy today to support this special cause!

Alex and Karen are joined by musician Madelyn Read to talk about the path she is carving for herself as an alt-country artist in the Vancouver music scene. They discuss everything to do with her new album Concrete Country, including the grant-writing process that provided her with a “contractual obligation” to complete the project, as well as the different songwriting processes she implemented for each tune. They also talk about the nuances of friendship; holding space for your emotions and creativity; finding authenticity when making art; and the importance of incorporating whimsy into your everyday life. 

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Follow Madelyn: @madelynread

Listen to Concrete Country and check out her work here

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Creative Recommendations:

• Bluegrass Tuesdays @theheatley696
• MadFit dance workout videos

Alex and Karen talk to musician, sewist, arts worker, and all around cool person Kaya Kurz about her life as a multi-faceted artist. Kaya shares her self-described “flukey” journey from music school to her current job working for an arts non-profit, and how her idea to take up sewing as a covid hobby turned into a passion project that has become one of her main forms of artistic expression as well as a tool for both advocacy and community on her Instagram page that chronicles her work. They talk about Kaya’s chronic illness and how that has impacted her creativity, especially in the realm of garment making, and explore many different topics that are connected to the fashion industry, such as fast fashion; anti-fat bias; and the ability or inability to properly express oneself through style. 

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Follow Kaya:

@kaya_sews

@the.shorties.music

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Resources:

What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat and "You Just Need to Lose Weight" and 19 Other Myths About Fat People by Aubrey Gordon

https://www.aubreygordon.net/books

Fearing The Black Body by Sabrina Strings

https://www.sabrinastrings.com/books

Anti-Diet by Christie Harrison

https://christyharrison.com/books

Just Eat It by Laura Thomas PhD

https://www.laurathomasphd.co.uk/just-eat-it/

Alex and Karen chat with musician Amanda Sum all about the experience of making her debut album New Age Attitudes, from it’s initial conception all the way to creating a music video that was eventually nominated for a Juno and won the SXSW Music Video Jury Award. They talk about the different messages she tries to convey in her work; the importance of representation; and why you should always be asking yourself “why does this matter?”. Amanda also opens up about the loss of a dear friend and collaborator, and the ways that she’s used creativity to process the complex emotions of grief. 

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Follow Amanda @amanduhsum

You can find links to all her work here

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Creative Recommendations:

-Endings Rarely Are by Natasha D’Agostino on Spotify and Apple Music

-Olivia Quan’s discography

Alex and Karen sit down with Daniel Byrne to chat about his life as a creative nomad. They cover a lot of Dan’s life: growing up in Indonesia, his experience in film school, breaking into the music scene and all the jobs he’s had along the way that led him to start Subsocials, a studio that creates sound effects libraries, sample packs, and much more. The three of them explore a lot of interesting tangents about music and the industry, such as the subjectivity of art and the influence that different gender constructs have on music creation. They talk DJing; parenthood; our human connection to sound; and so much more!

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Follow Daniel:

@okdaniel

@subsocials

and check out Subsocial Studios’ website

www.subsocials.com

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

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Creative Recommendations:

-How to Do Nothing by Jenny Odell

-Lesser Known Monsters of the 21st Century by Kim Fu

Alex and Karen chat with tattoo artist Olivia Harrison (known by her Instagram followers as @fearbear) all about her work and the different skills that go into the job of tattooing, such as finding the creativity within others’ ideas and the emotional labour of working with strangers so intimately. They delve into the journey that led her to start tattooing and talk about the courage and self-confidence it took to get started and to develop her own personal style. They also explore the idea of perfectionism and how it can manifest in different ways, and get into Olivia’s other creative outlets.

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Follow Olivia on Instagram @fearbear and check out her website www.oliviaharrisontattoo.com

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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod

Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com

Credits: 

• Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
• Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify

Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify