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In September, Vending & OCS Nation podcast host Bob Tullio delivered a three-hour presentation at the Holiday House Tech and Sales event in Frisco, Texas. While leading their first ever sales track, Tullio noticed that certain sales tips and strategies truly resonated with the sales professionals in attendance.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, Bob Tullio shares those keys sales tips with podcast listeners and talks to some of the sales professionals who attended the presentation, plus industry experts Orrin Huebner and Sandy Schoenthaler.

According to Tullio, these key sales strategies and the deep dive discussion around them, gives operators and sales professionals some strong ammunition – tools they need to take their sales game to another level. That means more opportunities and more closed deals.

Interviewed in this podcast: Chuck Long from One Source Refreshment, Terry Adelstein from Corporate Coffee Systems – in addition to our consultants, Orrin Huebner and Sandy Schoenthaler.

What are those key tips and strategies all about? Tune in, see for yourself – then get out there and give them a try.

While Patrick McGinty was certainly an excellent operator, his favorite part of the business was selling new accounts, and he was good at it. Ultimately, he parlayed that skill and his team, creating a marketing and sales machine that is working overtime to generate new business for operators around the country.

This episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation is sponsored by VendVue. Podcast host Bob Tullio spoke with Patrick McGinty, founder of VendVue, a company that offers an end-to-end business development solution for convenience services operators.

Tullio notes that it took him a while to wrap his head around what VendVue is doing for operators.

“In my 37 years as an operator, I saw plenty of second tier locators, lead generation companies, third party national account suppliers – with results that were mediocre at best – I finally realized that what VendVue offers is a total business development solution. They do the prospecting, the lead generation, the sales presentation and they ultimately sell the account,” Tullio said.

“Any operator who has ever tried to sell and run a company – or manage a sales staff – knows what a challenge that can be. It’s costly, time consuming, and exhausting at times. If an operator can get in sync with VendVue’s program – and they have plenty of success stories to share – it seems like a no-brainer,” he added.

In fact – McGinty said his 18-month-old company is actively seeking to partner with operators – offering exclusive relationships in many market areas – to meet the demand as his sales team is running in high gear.

For more information on partnering with VendVue, visit:

www.vendvuevending.com/partner

or schedule a call with Patrick McGinty.

Without question, the Atlantic Coast Exposition – The Ace Show, sets the bar about as high as it can go for a regional convenience services gathering. The level of planning, attention to detail and creativity required for the 2025 ACE Show is impressive.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation Podcast, host Bob Tullio noted that “The more I learn about the event, which is sponsored by three state associations - the North Carolina Vending Association, South Carolina Vending Association and the Virginia Automatic Merchandising Association, the goal seems to be, ‘Let’s make this year’s show even better than last year’s show.’  Not an easy task – but the organizers seem to find a way. They also have some fun with the themes of the ACE Show – last year, it was ACE in Space. In 2025, it’s Viva Las Aces.

This episode, presented in cooperation with the Atlantic Coast Exposition – ACE – looks at their 2025 trade show, October 9-11, 2025, Embassy Suites/Kingston Plantation in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Tullio sat down with the ACE 2025 Show Chair, Chet Cromer, of Cromer Food Services, located in South Carolina, to discuss the exciting program that Cromer and his team have put together for the October show.

To learn more about the Atlantic Coast Exposition, visit www.atlanticcoastexpo.com

Everyone in the OCS business has heard about the popular Technician Training and Equipment Sales Trade Show from Holiday House Distributing. This year's event is more attractive than ever, offering training at a whole new level – for OCS technicians and now – operators and salespeople.

From humble beginnings in 2019, the 2025 spring session attracted 140 technicians from 73 companies. The fall session of the show, slated for September 29th to October 2nd in Frisco, Texas, is shaping up to be a blockbuster event - as the show has added a sales training component, led by Automatic Merchandiser's Vending & OCS Nation podcast host, Bob Tullio.

In this episode, Tullio talks with the brainchild of the show, Barbara Russell, vice president of sales and marketing at Holiday House Distributing, about why the show offers OCS operators and OCS technicians an opportunity to learn directly from the industry’s leading equipment manufacturers in a series of small group training sessions. The addition of an OCS sales track takes the show to a new level.

"I am excited to be leading the new sales training component of the program – delivering a presentation on the afternoon of September 29th.  In that presentation, I will be offering proven business development techniques, consultive selling, storytelling, overcoming objections, successful follow up, plus proven closing strategies – all OCS oriented," said Tullio. "Much of the content will come from the online course I developed for NAMA – "Selling Convenience Services," which has been utilized by some of the industry’s top operators. There will be significant takeaways for operators and their sales reps who attend, both collateral materials and actionable concepts.

Tullio also talks about the benefits of the show with David Henchel, president/CEO of Corporate Coffee Systems, Joanna Kim Choi, national account manager at Bevi, Brian Zakeski, national sales manager at Follett and Brian Cook, corporate technical manager at Associated Services. 

The show will also feature sales oriented presentations from every supplier attending, plus a presentation on coffee from industry veteran Tom Bauer and a water presentation from Anastasia Covan from Vivreau. 

While everyone in the beverage business has heard of Gatorade and Powerade, there always seems to be room for a new contender in the isotonic beverage category. With a new distribution deal - Launch Hydrate has arrived.

You may remember tasting Launch Hydrate as you walked into the 2025 NAMA Show. Josh Rosenberg of Forward Thinkers was side by side with the company’s COO, Dillon Houstoun, serving up Launch Hydrate to grateful convention goers. 

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation Podcast, Bob Tullio talks to Houstoun and Rosenberg about the company’s unique formula for success: the beverage, the strategy, why it’s working, where it’s going, and how operators can capitalize by selling the product in workplaces and distributing Launch Hydrate to concessions -- that critical last mile.

One other note of interest: while convenience stores are the typical route to consumers for a beverage, Launch Hydrate is finding momentum in youth sports, winning loyalty with parents (today’s workplace customers) and young athletes (tomorrow’s customers), who are all attracted to a better hydration solution. 

It started as a side gig to make some extra money, but after a while, Ryan Harrington realized that he loved the vending business. As it turns out, his investment connected him to love on many levels, including a life partner and co-CEO – his wife Michelle.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, host Bob Tullio brings you a conversation with Ryan Harrington, Founder and CEO of Royal ReFresh in Portland.

You’ll hear about his home-grown approach, utilizing strong community roots to help build his business. He’s expansion-minded – not only in the Northwest, but also in Las Vegas, where his company has now opened a branch.

Harrington enjoys mentoring new operators and is very active in NAMA. He was part of the team that brought you the 2025 NAMA Show.

He’s a very levelheaded guy, but you may have seen his recent LinkedIn post where he got a little fired up about all the bogus online claims about the vending business being the ticket to passive income – an easy route to riches. He knows it’s work. In fact, he got started in vending by investing in one of those business opportunity programs himself, involving Red Bull-branded vending machines. He tells us how he managed to make it work.

A side note: The business opportunity with Red Bull machines had quite an impact on his life. It led him into the convenience services business, which he loves, and it facilitated the connection to his co-CEO and life partner, his wife, Michelle, whom he met at a Red Bull-sponsored event.

The Royal ReFresh story is a good one and especially valuable for the many industry newcomers, who can only hope that their story will be laden with similar success. Harrington offers some suggestions on what it takes to scale a business and keep moving to the next level.

From the discovery of explorer Ernest Shackleton’s ship in Antarctica, to the theme of the presidential inauguration, “endurance” is a recurring word that hits home for operators when they reflect on what they have dealt with over the years.

The word certainly resonated with Bob Tullio, host of Automatic Merchandiser's Vending & OCS Nation podcast. In this episode, he speaks with numerous industry leaders -- operators and suppliers -- to get their take on endurance. 

Fresh off a trip from Antarctica, Tullio tells his story of endurance -- a riveting 37-year ride in the convenience services business that he and his partners still reflect on with amazement. 

Lots of industry people are featured and mentioned in this podcast, so don't miss it. Among them, Tom Steuber, Craig Hesch, Mark Kronenberg, Pete Tullio, Jon Fishman, Larry Deagon, Orrin Huebner, C.J. Recher, Carla Balakgie, Jennifer Ridnour, Jim Brinton, Ryan Harrington, Kailin McCauley Genton, Bill McCauley, Justin Fishman, Lance Deagon, Paul Tullio and Arthur Siller.

Don't miss the related article in the June/July issue of Automatic Merchandiser magazine.

Here is a review from my editor, Linda Becker. “It's a humdinger.” 

What is Josh Rosenberg up to now? It is question Josh hears, especially when he is not in the industry's spotlight, where he has spent so much time as a high profile player in and around convenience services. Bottom line: He's back. 

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser's Vending & OCS Nation podcast, host Bob Tullio sits down with Josh Rosenberg to talk about his 30 year industry journey and new family business, Forward Thinkers, a consulting firm and a dream come true for him.

Here is an insight sample from Rosenberg, when Tullio asked him what small operators need to do to land bigger accounts.

"This isn't a pity story for me, but I grew up on the streets. I went in and out of homes and didn't have the best upbringing. What I really was was undereducated. I didn't have the experience and the exposure. I walked into Coke as a merchandiser because they were hiring for six weeks during the Kentucky Derby and I needed to pay for school because somebody encouraged me to go to college or you're not going to ever get off the streets. But I was failing in college. I was making more money as a merchandiser and I was perfectly happy to be there until I saw somebody in a suit, driving a company vehicle that looked like they made a hell of a lot of money and I knew they weren't doing as good a job as I could," he said.

"And when I kept going in begging for that job and they wouldn't give it to me, somebody finally pulled me aside and said, if you want that job, you gotta act like that job. Meaning, dress like it, behave like it, and work towards it. Not much different for a small operator. If you want that account, your brand has to look like it, it has to feel like it, and you have to present like that."

There are plenty of good insights in this podcast from a man who has seen ups and downs in business, but has now combined a young, tech savvy team that includes his sons, with his many years of business experience, to offer something powerful for both operators and suppliers. 

With all the consolidation this industry has seen – podcast host Bob Tullio asks, what is drawing the huge crowds at the NAMA Show? He thinks it's the newcomers - new operators who are highly motivated – intrigued by the promise of giant revenue (often driven by Tik Tok videos), but extremely excited by the technology.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation,  Tullio brings you more convention floor interviews with some big names and some up and coming operators, as he discusses the latest trends and innovations in the convenience services industry – some excellent insights from the 2025 NAMA Show. The conversation highlights the influx of newcomers to the industry, the importance of technology and smart markets, and the need for operators to adapt to post-pandemic challenges. Various industry leaders share their experiences and thoughts on the future of the industry, emphasizing the significance of networking and collaboration.

As for the groundswell of new operators, Tullio notes the following:

"There was an easy way to find the many newcomers to the industry – just go visit one of the many smart market vendors, and you could see them asking questions and placing orders. There is no question that the 2025 NAMA Show shined a big spotlight on smart markets, and the technology is a major reason why newcomers are flocking to the convenience services industry. It is easy to get started and to look like an established player, if you have a strong website and some capital. This extreme interest in smart markets by new operators, will only result in strong smart market growth, even more entrants among smart market suppliers and ultimately, lower prices – as the larger, established operators jump on board – as painful as it might be, to shelve existing equipment that is working just perfectly."

As usual, podcast host Bob Tullio worked the 2025 NAMA convention floor with a microphone in hand, talking to a wide variety of operators. While they may have come to Las Vegas with different objectives, they all agreed that the show was a fine display of what the industry has to offer.

Tullio admits that after golfing for three days before the show with David “Hollywood” Henchel, Jim “Dutton” Evans and Rick “The Duke” Dutkiewicz, he was exhausted and had less money in his pocket. You can read all about in his Best of OCS column entitled - Lessons from a pre-NAMA Show 'retreat' with three industry leaders. - published on May 14th.

As for NAMA show - record attendance – huge convention floor – signs that the industry is moving in the right direction.

At each show, there is always a theme – a defining characteristic of what is being offered. We’ve seen K-cup madness - pod-mania – bean to cup brewer fest – but this year – as one operator pointed out – it is all about smart coolers – with ambient temperature, frozen and even hot food add-ons. 2025 is the year of the smart cooler at the NAMA Show – with over 25 varieties on the convention floor.

In this edition of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, Tullio spoke to several operators and some suppliers – asking them about their overall impressions of the show, what blew them away – or at least impressed them and finally - five years after the start of the pandemic, what do operators need to do to succeed?

You may end up listening to this on your way to the 2025 NAMA Show in Las Vegas – on the plane, in a taxi or hanging out in the lobby of your hotel before the show starts up on May 7th. That is the perfect scenario, because today’s episode offers some valuable advice about the 2025 Show – in addition to "wear comfortable shoes."

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio is focused on seven suppliers who you need to connect with if you are an operator attending the show.

As Tullio notes, "At every NAMA show, several suppliers sign up to have a professional video interview done with me, working on behalf of Automatic Merchandiser and Vending Market Watch, right from the convention floor. I find that those companies always have a great story to tell about their products and services – this year is no exception."

Tullio talks to those seven suppliers, asking the question, "Why is your company a "must see" supplier.

In this episode, Tullio has a request of his listeners. 

"When you see me on the convention floor doing videos at 365 Retail Markets – booth 1347, Cantaloupe - booth 1839, Pro Watch Solutions - booth 2309, Televend - booth 2723, Launch Hydrate booth -1476 and speaking on camera with Steve Orlando of Fixturelite and Josh Rosenberg of Forward Thinkers, stop by to say hello and be sure to watch for those videos when they are release and published in the coming weeks."

After 14 years as president and CEO of NAMA, Carla understands the operator mindset and always has the best interests of NAMA members at the top of her priority list.

As Carla Balakgie approaches her last NAMA show as president and CEO of the organization, it is a good time for her to reflect on the last 14 years at the helm of the successful industry organization.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, it’s Part II of Bob Tullio’s interview with Carla Balakgie. If you missed Part I on April 1st, it’s ok, listen to today’s episode now and go back to hear the great conversation from Part I at your convenience – and it was a great conversation as Carla discussed her 14-year journey as president and CEO of NAMA. She talked about advocacy – what operators need to do to succeed and the industry’s proactive approach to improve their image and increase revenue opportunities.

Tullio also interviewed key industry leaders who shared their perspectives on the impact of Carla Balakgie, including Craig Hesch of AH Management, Pete Tullio of Gourmet Coffee Service and Tom Steuber of Associated Services.

In this episode – an insightful interview - Carla looks back at the people who helped her succeed at NAMA – she gives us the secret sauce recipe – she talks about technology – industry newcomers, her legacy and so much more. Of course, Tullio spoke to some other industry heavyweights, who shared their perspective on Carla’s positive and long-lasting impact.

For operators, suppliers and anyone in business who wants to get a glimpse inside the mind of a proven leader – an inspirational leader – this is a must listen. If you don’t know Carla that well, you will see why she is so successful. Her combination of professionalism and charm is a winning combination.

The company has always been known for reliable coolers and freezers. While they are certainly preparing for the next wave of innovation and technology, Due North remains focused on operational efficiency and reliability.

As host Bob Tullio points out in this episode of Automatic Merchandiser & VendingMarketWatch's Vending & OCS Nation podcast, a couple years ago, he was talking to Due North’s Randy Skyba about glass door coolers and freezers. “Skyba noted, “Nobody cares much about the coolers and freezers in a micro market until they go out of order, then it is a crisis.”

In this episode, Tullio spoke with Sean McGrann, MBA - the CCO – chief commercial officer, of Due North. He is excited about his role at Due North and is enjoying the concept of partnering with operators to help them meet their unattended retail needs.

When it comes to technology – think smart coolers – Due North is playing a major role. They provide refrigeration, while multiple technology partners add payment devices, cameras, scales and every other bit of technology that is required to make a smart cooler happen.

When it comes to looking ahead to the future, McGrann said that AI will continue to be important and that anyone who is not leveraging AI to the best of their ability is going to be passed up.

Based on the industry’s growth – the big comeback underway in just about every segment of the convenience services industry and the huge success of the most recent conventions – Chicago in 2022 – Atlanta in 2023 – record attendance at Dallas in 2024 – there is a lot of excitement brewing about the 2025 NAMA show and the return of the show to Las Vegas.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser & VendingMarketWatch's Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry - presented in cooperation with the National Automatic Merchandising Association - the industry organization for convenience services, it’s a preview at of the upcoming NAMA Show in Las Vegas – May 7th to 9th at the Las Vegas convention center.

Bob Tullio talked to some of the architects of the event - David Marler from 365 Retail Markets, Ryan Harrington, Founder and CEO of Royal ReFresh– both on the trade show advisory committee, and Kristen Griffith, CMP Griffith, Vice President, Programs & Services at NAMA.

The podcast guests talk about why the NAMA Show is a must attend for any serious operator, plus – how the show has impacted their businesses. There is also a great deal of buzz around the keynote speaker, Oz Pearlman, world-renowned mentalist.

With extensive experience behind her, Carla Balakgie hit the ground running when she was named President and CEO of NAMA 14 years ago. With Carla moving on to her next chapter after this year, the convenience services organization has big shoes to fill. 

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio sat down with Carla to talk about her journey and her perspective from the industry’s top spot. 

Much of the conversation centers on advocacy, dodging legislative landmines and the industry's proactive approach to improve their image and increase revenue opportunities for operators and suppliers.

Tullio also interviewed key industry leaders who shared their perspectives on the impact of Carla Balakgie, including Craig Hesch (AH Management), Pete Tullio (Gourmet Coffee Service) and Tom Steuber (Associated Services). 

The founder of Evergreen Refreshments, Avanti Markets and more, likes to say that if you are not growing, you are coasting, and if you are coasting, you are probably going downhill.

There is no coasting for Jim Brinton. Even after selling Avanti to 365 Retail Markets, Brinton loves to see his businesses grow. It clearly drives him.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, it’s Part II of podcast host Bob Tullio’s interview with Jim Brinton.

Brinton is a humble man, but he is proud of the success he has achieved through hard work, innovation and risk taking. He talks about the importance of keeping the micro market concept fresh, the key people who have helped him succeed, critical advice for new operators, his outlook for 2025 and of course, his secret sauce recipe – a work in progress.

Mentioned in this two-part podcast:

Dean Prather of Quality Vending & Coffee Co. Mark Stein from Mark Vend Company, Unified Strategies Group, Craig Kushner of Monumental Vending Inc, Kevin Brinton from Evergreen Refreshments, Arthur Siller from Evergreen Refreshments, Vistar, Barry Rosenberg of VENDING ONE INC, Scott Phillips, Mark Dieffenbach from The Hershey Company and Elyssa Steiner of Cantaloupe Inc.

Tullio said he hopes this podcast will inspire the next Jim Brinton out there to take their great idea to the next level.

Jim Brinton brought the micro market to convenience services. Some operators have told him that he not only transformed the industry - but he also saved it.

What we have been focusing on recently is industry giants – movers and shakers, including Matthew Marsh of First Class Vending and Judson Kleinman of Corporate Essentials. Jim Brinton is in that “industry giant category" as both an operator and a supplier.

There are many great stories in the convenience services industry. In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, you will hear one of the best of all – the story of Jim Brinton of Evergreen Refreshments and of course, Avanti Markets. He has truly revolutionized our industry – he introduced us to the micro market – the start of unattended retail.

Host Bob Tullio talks to Jim about his journey – how he became an operator and how his desire to find something better than vending, drove him to become a major industry innovator. 

Podcast host Bob Tullio was pleased by the amount of positive feedback he received from Part I of this episode – “Judson Kleinman – Focused on improving corporate culture for his clients and employees - Part I - His journey.” Part II takes a closer look at Kleinman, the entrepreneur.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s & Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, you will hear Part II of the podcast - "Judson Kleinman has plenty of reasons to be smiling,” Podcast host Bob Tullio covers a lot of ground with Kleinman, including:

Courageous decision making

Overcoming business challenges

Why he does not operate micro markets or vending

A focus on pantry service

His outlook and advice on OCS

Dealing with a cyberattack

The off and on relationship with Keurig 

The secret sauce at Corporate Essentials

Life after selling to Canteen

The next chapter

Judson’s own love story

Enjoy this conversation with a legendary industry veteran who has some great content to share.

Anyone who has dealt with Judson Kleinman over the years knows that he is always working to be the best operator and boss that he can be.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio sits down with an industry legend, a powerhouse operator - Judson Kleinman from Corporate Essentials – operating in the greater New York City area.

Kleinman has always been a valuable resource for Tullio, in podcasts, webinars and industry related articles – largely because he is one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry. He’s also a good guy, who truly cares about his employees, his clients and the industry itself. Maybe most importantly – he’s a happy man who has sold his business but is still very much involved with a little less stress and he tells Tullio that he has found the love of his life – Dara.

We hope you enjoy this interview – about his journey, overcoming challenges, the direction of the industry and with advice for operators – veterans and newcomers. We know you will feel his positive energy as Judson looks back and toward his next chapter. 

Part I focuses on his journey and some of his core beliefs about doing business the right way. Part II will take a close look at his strategic approach - one that has served him well as an operator.

There are so many key suppliers in the convenience services industry. Some are big names, well established, with big companies. Others are focused on building a company, using technology and creativity to help drive profitability as they provide innovative solutions for operators.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio looks back at some notable conversations with suppliers that his listeners heard from in 2024.

In this episode – wrapping up the Best of 2024 – it is part two of superstar suppliers who drove the industry. We will hear about the journeys, the insights and the strategies of some of our favorite suppliers who are fueling the growth of the industry – innovators we talked to in 2024.

Featuring Bridger Keally and Mac Bolak from Panoptyc, Kevin Galaida from theft Detective, Steve Orlando from Fixturelite, consultant Orrin Heubner, Gil Cargil with his AI business development solution, Jonathan Noori from Royalty Distribution, Yang Yu from Micromart, Mike Delazzer, the founder of Redbox who is now with Instant Retail Systems, Detlev Goedbloed, formerly with Structural Concepts, Fred Kahn from Kooick,  Guy Moshe from Shekel and Dean Prather from Q-Tote.

Typically, this episode is one of the most popular of the year with listeners. That's because so many people who follow Automatic Merchandiser & VendingMarketWatch's Vending and OCS Nation podcast (both operators and suppliers) are involved in business development. 

These strategies are proven - so when podcast host Bob Tullio gives you a guarantee - that these four business development strategies will ensure your success for 2025 – it’s worth a listen.

Tullio looks back at what he suggested in 2023 and 2024. You be the judge. How did those strategies work for you? You will almost certainly agree that those strategies stood the test of time.

People mentioned in this podcast: Jennifer Fox of Fox Vending, Inc., Jon Holden of All Star Services, Inc., Matthew Marsh of First Class Vending and Coffee, Barry Rosenberg from VENDING ONE INC, Linda Saldana from Seventh Wave Refreshments, Kimberly Lenz from Associated Services, Dan Welch from World Cup Coffee & Tea, Dean Prather from Quality Vending & Coffee Co., James Evans from Evans Refreshment Solutions and Kim Miros of DAC Total Refreshments, Judson Kleinman of Corporate Essentials – the list goes on, including people like Orrin Huebner, a respected consultant and Mike Kelner -  the industry’s leading business broker - Vending Biz Broker.

Tune in and sell more in 2025!

For operators, choosing the right suppliers is critically important. Making the right product, equipment and technology choices – along with receiving sound advice, can elevate the results for a convenience services operator.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, it’s the Best of 2024 – “Suppliers who fuel innovation and drive the industry forward.”  Podcast host Bob Tullio put together a fast-paced episode where listeners will hear from some leading suppliers, offering stories about their journey, key points about their offerings, useful advice for operators and of course, some secret sauce recipes.

This is Part 1 of a two-part episode, featuring:

• Cam Cloeter, the founder of Lighting for Impact
• Ryan McWhirter from 365 Retail Markets
• Elyssa Steiner from Cantaloupe
• Robert Liva from Graphics that Pop
• Joe Webster from Newco
• Mark Kronenberg and Bryan Hebert from Pro Watch Solutions
• Butch and Lynn Winkler, plus Barbara Russell from Holiday House
• Evan Jarecki from Gimme

Part 2 – featuring an additional list of key suppliers, is scheduled for February 18th.

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As the host of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, Bob Tullio heard some great stories from operators in 2024. They opened up the vault, giving candid accounts of the challenges of getting started in the business and even shared some of their miscalculations along the way.

Valuable insights from operators with something to offer and of course, a couple more secret sauce recipes. 

In this episode, listeners will hear from Kim Miros of DAC Total Refreshments in Florida, Dean Prather from Quality Vending & Coffee in Kansas City, Jon Holden from All Star Services in Michigan, Jon Corto from Buffalo Strive, Dan Welch from World Cup Coffee in Portland, Arthur Siller from Evergreen Refreshments in Seattle, Rick Pavlic from Pavlic Vending in Wisconsin, Anthony Cuccolo from CSB Services in New York, Andy Owen from C&S Vending in California and another tidbit from Matthew Marsh at First Class Vending & Coffee in Las Vegas.

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Next episode: Suppliers who fueled the industry in 2024 and what they had to say when they spoke to Vending & OCS Nation.

The timing is perfect for this Automatic Merchandiser & VendingMarketWatch Vending & OCS Nation podcast - It is a preview of the upcoming Coffee Tea and Water Event - November 4th and 5th in Miami.

The title says it all - "Here is why you need to attend the 2025 Coffee, Tea and Water - the CTW." This podcast, presented in cooperation with National Automatic Merchandising Association, looks at the plan for a gathering that was reimagined in 2024 - and now fine tuned in 2025!

"This year, we will deconstruct the evolving workplace. I am particularly stoked about this event – as I will be acting as the emcee – which means I will get to interview the incredible keynote speakers for the event and facilitate Q and A sessions with the speakers and attendees," said podcast host Bob Tullio. The CTW is designed specifically for operators and suppliers to collaborate on ways to elevate office coffee services and pantry offerings and evolve the client relationship, moving beyond trusted service provider to essential business partner. Let’s take a look at those keynote speakers - Ethan King is a global keynote speaker, best-selling author, and award-winning entrepreneur with a unique background in visual art, marketing, psychology, and business growth. Through his SIMPLE Success frameworks, he combines creative thinking, automation strategy, and AI tools to help leaders simplify complexity and scale smarter - AI – especially for business development, is something operators need to be exploring – I have been talking about that for months, so I’m excited to hear what Ethan has to say. Kaiser Yang is the CEO of Platypus Labs, Kaiser leads keynotes and workshops with energy and focus, offering accessible, real-world thought leadership and actionable takeaways that resonate deeply with audiences. Collaboration, education compelling speakers – that’ s what the 2025 CTW is all about. In this episode - Tullio spoke with two of the architects of the event – Linda Saldaña of Seventh Wave Refreshments in Atlanta and Patrick Sheehan of @Sheehan Bros Vending in Columbus, Ohio.

2024 is done. After countless interviews, 36 podcasts and multiple webinars, podcast host Bob Tullio has six observations about the convenience services industry to point out to his listeners. Do you agree with his perspective as we head into 2025? Tune in - find out - leave a comment.

In addition to those six observations, in today’s episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, we’ll peek back at 2024 and hear some solid content from many operators who were featured on the show.

Enjoy "The Best of 2024 - Six industry observations plus notable insights, opinions and advice from operators." You will hear from Matthew Marsh, Jennifer Fox, Louis Baresh, Nakia White-Hazel, Al Hernandez, Mike Jamison, Linda Saldana, Jim Evans and more...

Next episode - January 21st - More operators with great stories and insights - Part II - Best of 2024 - Operators with something to say...

Kim Miros of DAC Total Refreshments in Florida, Dean Prather from Quality Vending & Coffee in Kansas City, Jon Holden from All Star Services in Michigan, Jon Corto from Buffalo Strive, Dan Welch from World Cup Coffee in Portland, Arthur Siller from Evergreen Refreshments in Seattle  and more…

And of course, some additional secret sauce recipes you won’t want to miss…

The 2024 NAMA Coffee, Tea and Water event (CTW) has come and gone. For those who attended, takeaways varied, but everyone agreed that the CTW was focused on collaboration, engagement, networking and education - always a strong combination of features.

On this edition of Automatic Merchandiser's Vending & OCS Nation podcast, host Bob Tullio expressed his regret for missing the event, but especially the po' boys, gumbo, beignets, jambalaya, oysters, clams and shrimp, which were enjoyed by many.

He sat down with Linda Becker, Editor in Chief of Automatic Merchandiser and Vending Market Watch to get her impressions of the CTW and added some interviews done by Linda plus some of his own, to offer listeners a broad perspective on the CTW event and what it will take for OCS operators to succeed in 2025. 

You will hear comments from Linda Becker, Tom Steuber, Linda Saldana, Joe Simonovich and Mike Jamison.

No industry topics are off limits when Automatic Merchandiser's Vending & OCS Nation podcast host Bob Tullio interviews Matthew Marsh for the second installment with the founder of First Class Vending and Coffee.

Much like the first installment of the Matthew Marsh interview, listeners can expect a fast pace, no shortage of opinions and a fair a fair amount of banter with podcast host Bob Tullio, including a final question from Marsh, "Does anyone even listen to this podcast?"

In fact, Part I of Matthew Marsh was the most listened to Vending & OCS Nation podcast in the initial five-day period after release. According to Tullio, he was contacted by more than one listener who asked, "Why do we have to wait two weeks for the next one?" 

Apparently, Matthew Marsh has star power.

Listen and find out why, as Marsh discusses everything from smart markets, his frictionless market experiment, his take on the future of vending and the suppliers/people who have helped his company succeed.

His blood pressure elevates when he talks about his legal battle to level the playing field on beverage pricing, his disdain for newcomers who are inspired by Tik Tok videos, some advice/a warning for newcomers as well as existing operators who want to do it right. You will also hear his take on the importance of giving back to the community.

Plus - a secret sauce recipe that may surprise you - or maybe not!

According to Matthew Marsh, success is all about your work ethic. “It's about when you go to work and what you do when you get there,” he said.

His strong work ethic explains the company’s emergence as a leader in the convenience services industry. In 30 years, First Class Vending has grown from two employees to more than 300 employees, from one location and warehouse to nine warehouses across three states, from soda only vending machines to full-service vending, micro markets, OCS, and frictionless stores at the airport.

Bob Tullio, the host of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, competed directly with First Class Vending and recalls that that Marsh was a tough competitor who loves the industry, is always innovating and has some definite opinions on what it takes to succeed in this business. In this episode, Tullio sits down with Marsh and asks questions designed to get Marsh talking about some exciting highlights of his journey as an operator, including his growth strategies.

While his operation is quite large today, a force in California, Nevada and Arizona, listeners who are new to convenience services will appreciate the way he started his company, and he is happy to share some of the lessons he has learned along the way. This interview is a great listen for both industry veterans and newcomers, offering plenty of insights that will stand up to the test of time in our fast changing industry.

As an account executive, have you ever had a situation where you were so excited after the initial appointment, after a proposal meeting – that you were 100% sure it was a done deal? Then suddenly, as we like to say in the quiet of a Midwest evening, you hear nothing but crickets. For people in sales, it can be a recurring nightmare.

Why does it happen? How can deals be salvaged when the prospect goes to radio silence mode?

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, host Bob Tullio talks about follow up with Matthew Marsh of First Class Vending, sales guru Gil Cargil and his former business partner for over 25 years, Jon Fishman. Tullio believes that Fishman belongs in the hall of fame for OCS sales.

After years of selling convenience services together and leading a very successful sales force, Tullio and Fishman pulled some of their best follow up techniques out of the vault and shared them with Vending & OCS Nation listeners – reflecting on how to use those strategies and why they work so well.

As a sales rep, when you hear nothing but silence in December, a month when deals are known to fizzle due to holiday distraction – put these techniques to work. Be creative – maybe a little annoying – and use these specific techniques to close some stalled deals and finish strong in 2024.

Back in May of 2024 – at the NAMA Show in Dallas – the host of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, Bob Tullio, was covering education sessions when he came across one session that had the audience overflowing into the hallway. The speaker, Gil Cargill, was talking about AI for business development. 

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, Tullio looks for an answer to the question - If AI for business development is clearly a game changer, why are operators resisting?

Fast forward to November. Cargill was apparently ahead of the game. As Salesforce announces they are hiring 1000 sales reps to sell AI for business development, Cargill is still finding it difficult to get convenience services operators to try what is clearly the future of b2b business development. In this podcast, Cargill invites the industry to dip their toe in the water with a free offer for listeners and a strong money back guarantee that the program will build an operator’s business.

Here is Tullio's reaction after exploring the topic and producing the podcast:

"I’ve been around for a while, so I was a skeptic myself – but the more I learn about his AI driven solution – I’m convinced – especially after you hear my conversation with his inside sales bot – an impressive virtual assistant named Jane. I would love to hear how AI worked out for any operator who takes on what appears to be some game-changing technology for both operators and suppliers.

This podcast is a great listen for anyone in sales or business development. It gives you a look at what is coming - very soon - maybe even tomorrow."

The host of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, Bob Tullio, has said it before. He loves hearing about the journey of both operators and suppliers. Robert Liva has a good story.

The owner of GTP – Graphics that Pop, is an animated, entertaining, candid and knowledgeable individual, especially when it comes to marketing and to serving clients in the convenience services industry.

He started out in 1973 fixing pinball machines at the age of 13.  When he arrived in Houston Texas in 1976, he went right to work. In the vending business, working for operators, owning a vending company, was a location finder for 10 years as he balanced work and being a single parent. He even sold siding along the way – giving him an opportunity to learn something about selling and marketing. It was an opportunity to try a few things out.

Liva says there is no greater joy in life than giving, period. Along those lines, he has launched a non-profit organization called Path to Unity – A program that he says is designed to empower communities for real change – for positive change. Several hundred thousand dollars are committed to this community improvement effort – but there is a lot more to it than that. Former Dallas Cowboy star Michael Irvin is on board – and Liva said White Bear Coffee deserves a shout out for their early support. To learn more – visit www.pathtounity.com

From the supplier area (Connection Hub) to the line-up of speakers to the education sessions, NAMA's CTW for 2024 has been reimagined to help operators thrive in today's changing OCS climate.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, presented in cooperation with NAMA -it’s all about the upcoming CTW – the Coffee Tea and Water event, scheduled for December 11th and 12th in New Orleans.

NAMA's CTW 2024 has been designed specifically for operators and suppliers to collaborate on how to elevate OCS and Pantry offerings and evolve the client relationship, moving beyond trusted service provider to essential business partner. 

Podcast host Bob Tullio sat down with two people who were very involved in the planning of the event – Linda Saldana of Seventh Wave Refreshments, the chairperson of Stakeholder Task Force that reimagined the new CTW and Tom Steuber of Associated Services, who also happens to be Chairperson of the NAMA Board of Directors.

Two things will be clear to you after listening to this podcast. Operators are excited about smart market technology and there is no end to the creative solutions/equipment being offered by smart market developers.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio takes an even deeper dive into the world of smart markets. In part one of this episode, released on September 24th, he talked to Ryan McWhirter of 365 Retail Markets, Elyssa Steiner from Cantaloupe and Yang Yu from Micromart.

In “Smart Markets Part II - Choosing a smart market is a multiple-choice question for operators,” Tullio talks to more smart market developers, creative minds who are driving the smart market movement. Mike Delazzer, founder of Redbox is now with Instant Retail Systems, Detlev Goedbloed of Structural Concepts, Fred Kahn from Kooick and Guy Moshe from Shekel, all share their product features and their vision for the future of smart markets.

Mike Jamison from New Age Vending and Jon Corto from Buffalo Strive give their take on the value of smart markets. Also mentioned in this podcast, Due North and AVS, two companies who play an important role for smart market developers.

From day one, theft has been a concern for micro market operators. Watching hours of video or taking a time consuming and perfectly executed market inventory are two ways to establish whether theft is occurring, but then what? Proving your case to the client and gaining their support is the difficult next step.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, host Bob Tullio talks to three companies who use advanced technology, including AI, to identify theft as it happens and make it easier for operators to have that difficult conversation about product theft with their customer. The goal is better communication, cooperation, deterrence and in some cases, compensation.

According to the 2023 Automatic Merchandiser State of the Industry Report, there are over 42,000 active micro markets being operated in the US. Since the very first micro market was placed over a decade ago, product theft, aka “shrink” has been an active topic of conversation and an ongoing challenge for just about every operator.

In that same study, operators were asked to identify their average level of micro market theft. While 3% optimistically said they were at a 0% shrink, the vast majority fell into the 3% to 7% range.

One might conclude from the report that the shrink situation isn’t that bad and generally speaking, operators have it under control. Those three companies that are using advanced technology to monitor security and catch thieves in micro markets would beg to differ. Panoptyc, ProWatch Solutions and Theft Detective have all experienced different journeys on their way to catching a thief. Today, they can offer hard evidence that theft is an inherent issue in micro markets and unless strong deterrents are in place, along with effective communication – shrink happens in a big way.

While this podcast takes a deeper dive into the issue of micro market theft and efforts to deter it, many of the interviews were also conducted for the Automatic Merchandiser article that Tullio wrote for the magazine’s upcoming November, “Protecting your investment - A technology driven approach to mitigating micro market theft.”

David Henchel, President and CEO of Corporate Coffee Systems, has some advice for new operators entering the industry. “Don’t do it! Or better yet, do it, but do it in another city,” said a laughing Henchel. Beyond the humor, he offered more practical advice for new operators in the interview as well. 

Today’s episode is Part II of the David Henchel interview. According to the host of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, Bob Tullio, “There was just too much quality content in the interview to get it done in one episode. I feel a little selfish here, but I always enjoy doing feature stories and discussing the journey of an industry legend like Henchel, the President and CEO of Corporate Coffee Systems, and I hope you feel the same. There is plenty to learn from his experience, perspective and insights.”

For Tullio, one of the most interesting and honest moments in this interview is when Henchel talks about his two early challenges. Number one of course, is a lack of working capital. “I hear that from everyone and believe me, my partners and I can relate, and I know that all of those new operators out there understand the challenge right now as they try to find their way,” he said.

Challenge number two, and not too many people admit this – is the challenge of learning how to structure a business. As Henchel pointed out – he did not go to college, did not work for a major coffee service company where he could emulate some systems that were already in place – he had to learn by trial and error.  Of course, that leads to mistakes, which he calls – a great learning opportunity.

From all indications, smart markets are a game changer. Driven by AI, featuring the security benefits of vending and the product merchandising power of a micro market, it is no wonder that smart markets are emerging as the next big thing.

In the first part of a two-part episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, Tullio takes a deeper dive. He speaks with many of the entrants into the smart market space, big and small. Each is beginning to find their niche in what is almost certain to become a massive opportunity for everyone involved.

You can't tell the players without a scorecard. This podcast is your scorecard for the micro market game. 

Part one features Evan Jarecki from Gimme, Ryan McWhirter of 365 Retail Markets, Elyssa Steiner of Cantaloupe, Yang Yu of Micromart, and Arthur Siller from Evergreen Refreshments. 

Part two of this podcast on smart markets will be available on Tuesday, October 15. Part two will include interviews with other smart market providers, including Mike DeLazzer, founder of Redbox, now with Instant Retail Systems, Detlev Goedbloed of Structural Concepts, Fred Kahn at Kooick, Guy Moshe at Shekel and more.

Editor's Note: Many of the interviews in this podcast (which offers a timely post-season baseball theme) were conducted by host Bob Tullio for an article that appeared in Automatic Merchandiser Magazine’s August edition.

Over the years, there was always talk among operators about somehow using the front of a vending machine for advertising. Or maybe the little screen on a bean to cup brewer would work. Or – how about a monitor in a micro market? Ten years ago, it was just talk and it seemed like science fiction.

Today, advertising in micro markets and on other payment devices is a reality – and a nice profit center for operators. Leave it to the folks at 365 Retail Markets to deliver with an entity they call Advana.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio looks at the explosive growth of micro market advertising. For Tullio, this podcast really belongs in the file that’s entitled - “I can’t believe this wasn’t available when I was operator.”

As Jacob McNulty from 365 put it, every operator starts out by pressing the easy button – allow advertising and watch the checks come in. It can get even better than that as revenue multiplies with more screens and supplier support.

While 365 Retail Markets is the advertising frontrunner with Advana – in this episode, Elyssa Steiner talks about the advertising program that Cantaloupe has brought to the table for their customers, leveraging the vast number of screens and devices in their network.

Either way – it’s a win for operators. In the podcast, Tullio asked McNulty, “Doesn’t this seem like a no brainer?” Allow advertising. Cash checks. He agreed.

That’s why Tullio calls it, “easy money.”  

As co-owner of Quality Vending & Coffee, Dean Prather is a hard-working operator with 34 years in the business. His invention, Q-Tote, is having an impact on the micro market industry. Dave Marler of Lightspeed calls it a “game changer.” Beyond his work, he is driven by giving back in several directions.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, Dean Prather talks to host Bob Tullio about the three things he is invested in – his employees, his customers and the community. It is Dean Prather – Part II.

Prather talks about his take on the coffee service industry and the fact that today, it is looking more and more like pantry service. He discusses his enthusiasm for one piece of equipment that he believes is the next big thing – a departure from his usually conservative approach to business.

Suppliers are critical to success and Prather identifies the key partners who have elevated his company. He explains the thought process behind Q-Tote and how the product, while not a perfect fit for every operator, is taking off.

Of course, he has his own recipe for the secret sauce that is perfectly in line with his approach to doing business.

Since the NAMA Show in May, while some operators are discouraged and turning away from coffee service, Bob Tullio has been beating the same drum, urging coffee service operators to ramp up their sales efforts.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, Tullio looks at the upside and downside of the reality that OCS will never be the same – although, it’s hard to say “never” about anything in today’s world.

What really sparked this whole premise – that now is the time to ramp up the OCS sales effort, is some of the conversations Tullio had with OCS operators over the past several months. While there is plenty of frustration out there, selling OCS opens a tremendous amount of opportunity for operators because of one reason:

Selling OCS is the easiest way to get in front of a decision maker.

Jennifer Fox of Fox Vending, Jon Fishman, Tullio’s former business partner, Orrin Huebner, business consultant, Linda Saldana of Seventh Wave Refreshments, Kim Lenz from Associated Services and veteran operator, now retired, Tom Konop, all contributed to the content of this podcast.

In this conversation with Tullio and his panel of industry leaders, the message is clear:

Face to face on site engagement is key. Get in the door. Get in front of prospects. Double down on OCS selling. Take the road less travelled and enjoy the expanded opportunity that comes with being a committed OCS operator in this new office refreshment landscape.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio sat down with Holiday House co-founders Butch and Lynn Winkler, partners for 48 in marriage and business, Barbara Russell, the vice president of sales and marketing for the company. You won’t believe what Barbara’s role was the first time she worked for Butch and Lynn.

This is a story of hard-working people who have evolved within an industry — in this case, the coffee service business. Butch and Lynn started as operators from 1981 to 1991, when they sold the company and launched Holiday House, selling a few plumbing parts.

Today, their massive catalog has products that serve 3900 operators and is growing. They are also the driving force behind the Holiday House Technician Training and Trade Show. Barbara Russell is the brainchild and quarterback of the event, which will take place from September 30 to October 2 at the Hyatt Regency in Irvine, Calif.

It's a great story. Butch and Lynn share their journey, looking back and looking forward.

Dean Prather's story at Quality Vending & Coffee in Kansas City, might remind you of Jon Holden's story at All Star Services in Michigan. Proof that son-in-laws can be a great hire!

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, Prather takes host Bob Tullio on a company tour of Quality Vending & Coffee, a company that has served the greater Kansas City metro area for decades. He also shares the company journey and his own personal route to becoming a prominent figure in the convenience services business. As it turns out – he has emerged as an inventor and his product is having a positive impact with operators around the country.

This is part one of a two-part episode, because once Dean Prather gets going in an interview, he has some excellent insights to offer. Part two will be released on Tuesday, September 3rd.

Like so many great companies - Quality Vending and Coffee was started in a garage. In 1991, Don Miceli and his late wife Jo Beth launched the company, a bold move following Don’s 30 years in the business working for Interstate United and another local independent operator. Don and Jo Beth decided it was time to do their own thing and they brought in their son Carl as well.

Less than a year into their new venture and with a growing list of accounts, Don reached out to his son-in-law, Dean Prather, about joining their team. Over 30 years later – Prather, now a co-owner, knows he made the right choice.

More than ever before, technology is being associated with vending and micro markets. For many, it seems to have all happened overnight, right after the pandemic. In reality, pioneers like Evan Jarecki have been at it for a decade.

Today’s episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, focuses on a company and industry leader who offers a classic entrepreneurial story. Host Bob Tullio talked to Evan Jarecki, CEO and co-founder of Georgia based Gimme Vending, a leading software company that builds management, delivery, and invoicing tools for micro markets and vending operators.

Gimme was built around three core values.

Empathy – caring deeply about their customers and how their teams operate.

Determination – not stopping until the job is done and being passionate about quality.

And Problem-Solving - embracing challenges and working with partners to find solutions.

Those core values have served the company well during what has been a very eventful 10-year ride. Jarecki shares his journey - the pivots, the milestones, the progress and how his product has evolved over the last decade. It’s a great listen - 15 minutes well spent - for operators, suppliers and entrepreneurs.

There are plenty of reasons why the Atlantic Coast Exposition — often known as ACE — has emerged as more than just a regional event. It attracts attendees from beyond their core states of North Carolina, Virginia and South Carolina.

In partnership with the Atlantic Coast Exposition, today’s episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast provides a preview of the upcoming “ACE in Space” event. Planned for October 10-12 in Myrtle Beach, S.C., ACE is where operators and suppliers from across the United States gather to attend educational sessions and see and show new products and equipment.

Podcast host Bob Tullio talked to Carl Moser, an industry veteran and currently a district manager for Canteen running the Forest City Branch attached to Canteen's Charlotte facility. Moser also is the chairperson of the 2024 Atlantic Coast Exposition, where the vending, office coffee, micro market and food service industry meets on the East Coast.

According to Moser, the show will offer quite a bit of fun, education and training as well as a compelling guest speaker — Astronaut Steve Smith — in its package of unparalleled networking opportunities. Listen to the podcast to get the inside scoop on what to expect at “ACE in Space.”

Every now and again, Bob Tullio, the host of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation podcast, steps out of the convenience services industry and talks to people who sell something else for a living to see if he can learn anything new about sales.

In this episode, Tullio talks to Angel Salvador, a Beverly Hills real estate professional who has hit some real-estate home runs with the Hollywood crowd, and Jerry Bolin, an agent himself and a long-time real estate coach who has mentored some top industry producers.

Let’s face it: If you are in sales, chances are, at some point, you said to yourself, “If this coffee service and vending thing or whatever you’re selling, doesn’t work out, I can always go sell real estate. That has to be like printing money, right? It’s easy.”

Well, as Bolin points out, just because they send you a real estate license in the mail, there’s no guarantee that the checks will follow.

Angel’s story is one of perseverance and determination. He and Jerry have learned a few lessons along the way and are happy to share along with some “real estate war stories.” There is one thing he learns every time he takes a journey outside the industry, Tullio notes. “The challenges we face in the convenience services business are not ours alone, and there is always something new to learn.”

As an operator, Orrin Huebner has worked for an independent company, started and sold two of his own, and managed a large branch for an industry giant. This wealth of experience has made him a sought-after consultant.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio sits down with another industry legend, Orrin Huebner, for a candid conversation about the state of the industry and what it takes for operators to succeed in today’s business climate.

As he puts it, after 50 years in the business (he started in high school) there was plenty left in the tank and plenty to give, so in 2022, he became an industry consultant and he has been busy, working with operators of all sizes and helping suppliers to find their way in the industry.

Huebner talks about sales, training, managing people, account retention, the importance of giving back, how to increase profitability, some lessons he has learned along the way and the one important bit of advice he dispenses that seems to truly connect with  operator clients who seek his help…

“Always run your business like it’s for sale.”

This podcast is a conversation that every operator and every entrepreneur will enjoy and benefit from.

Some interviews come with a price. Bob Tullio had to round out a foursome - golfing in Mesquite, Nevada, to get an interview with David Henchel. In the process, Tullio lost golf balls, some cash and some confidence in his golf game - but he did score a great interview. 

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry – produced by Endeavor Business Media, a Division of EndeavorB2B, industry legend David Henchel talks about his 40 years as an operator in the challenging New York City market area. 

Henchel started the company after a short stint at Hofstra. When he realized that college wasn’t for him, he started Corporate Coffee Systems along with his brother, Greg, and childhood friend, Don Luti. Henchel says it could not have happened without those guys.

One definite highlight of this interview is Henchel's description of the many events that forced him to pivot in his business - most notably, what he had to deal with during the pandemic and how he managed to endure and navigate his way through it. 

Tullio brings out the storyteller in Henchel and for Vending & OCS Nation podcast fans, it is an entertaining and informative episode.

1974 was quite a year. United States President Richard Nixon resigned following the Watergate scandal, Muhammad Ali and George Foreman fought for the heavyweight title, disco was becoming very popular, and a young man named Joe Webster started Newco Enterprises, a game changing event for many OCS operators.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio sits down with Joe Webster, an OCS pioneer and industry legend. Webster tells us about the twists and turns of his journey, which ultimately led to quite a successful company and career.

One of the keys to his success – always keeping “the golden rule” in mind when it comes to customers and employees. Webster shares some advice for operators, discusses the state of the industry and what he sees for the future of OCS.

In 2013, Webster was honored as a NAMA Coffee Legend, awarded each year to recognize an individual who is passionate about coffee and willing to share that passion to educate and help others succeed.

Jon Holden loves being an operator. He is grateful for the people he works with, the clients he serves and the job that he gets to perform every day.

In this episode Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation – the podcast for the convenience services industry, host Bob Tullio talks to Jon Holden of All Star Services in Michigan, in a podcast that is both entertaining and inspirational.

Tullio and Holden talk about his journey from the La Cross field to Coca-Cola to All Star Services, where he is clearly a driving force in business development and customer service. Holden is personally inspired by many things - his family, the industry, products that come from Michigan and the business he works for, which is a strong, family-owned operation.

Holden shares his view of the competition, his philosophy of customer service and his approach to sales. He names the suppliers that have helped drive success at All Star Services. He explains why his support of local products makes sense on many levels. Best of all, his description of his three little boys is worth the price of admission.

There is growing interest in the convenience services industry by newcomers – entrepreneurs who aspire to be operators. These newbies were seeking solutions at the 2024 NAMA Show while experienced operators found plenty of things to be impressed about.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation Podcast, host Bob Tullio explores the new operator phenomenon, talking to some new arrivals and industry veterans. As promised in the last episode, he offers up five more observations regarding the 2024 NAMA Show in Dallas and supports those observations with multiple operator interviews.

In addition to the new operator discussion, the podcast looks at the excitement surrounding the industry, technology and products that impressed operators, the one clearly hot trend in micro market technology and why OCS is still a critically important channel for operators.

Just about everyone who attended the event agreed that the 2024 NAMA Show in Dallas was the biggest gathering our industry has seen in a long time, if not the biggest ever. Beyond the expansive convention floor and large crowds, there was an unmistakable vibe – a clear change of direction, pointing to positive days ahead.

In this episode of Automatic Merchandiser’s Vending & OCS Nation, podcast host Bob Tullio takes listeners right to the convention floor, with multiple operator interviews (for some, their first NAMA Show) pertaining to the show vibe and the specific objectives that brought them to Dallas.

The episode features Dan Welch, Natalie Prince, Chip English, Dean Prather, Jerry Schreiner, Craig Lane, Anthony Cuccolo, Jim Evans, Joe Macchiarella, Kim Miros, Andy Owen, Rick Pavlic, Gaynell Malone and many more mentions – people and products.

Tullio also makes some observations of his own – five in this episode and five in the next and he urges listeners to weigh in with NAMA Show observations of their own by emailing him at bob@tulliob2b.com.