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E178 The Cost of Modern Christianity
20 Oct 2025
00:51:18
This conversation peels back the glossy veneer on modern church culture and asks what Jesus actually had in mind. We talk megachurch money, the “business model” of religion, and whether tithing-as-law was ever the point. Amy unpacks the influencer pastor era, the pressure-cooker system that breeds burnout, and why Acts-style fellowship (shared tables, rotating teachers, real accountability) still works. We compare Sunday stage shows to small, Spirit-led communities and ask if the apostles would even recognize our churches. From Laodicea warnings to Watchman Nee–style generosity, we press into discipleship over attendance. It’s frank, hopeful, and aimed at reform from the inside out with one of our favorite guests- Amy from Eyes on the Right podcast!
Timestamps: 00:01:00 Exposing the business of Christianity 00:02:47 Mention of “The Religious Business” documentary 00:05:08 Heart posture vs church consumerism 00:07:29 Institutional systems and fallen influence 00:09:42 Pastoral pressure and spiritual burnout 00:11:56 Success measured by butts in pews 00:14:23 What is church? The body of Christ 00:16:42 Pedestal pastors and misplaced focus 00:18:59 Shared teaching and authentic leadership 00:21:25 Comparing Acts church to modern models 00:22:05 Tithing vs New Covenant generosity 00:24:32 Giving as worship and heart posture 00:26:45 Generosity, reaping, and sowing in faith 00:29:05 Can the megachurch model be redeemed? 00:31:22 Laodicea church and spiritual blindness 00:33:43 House church rhythm and online fellowship 00:36:03 Would the apostles recognize our churches? 00:38:19 One-anothering and real fellowship 00:40:41 Why recovery groups feel like real church 00:43:07 Transparency, confession, and authentic ministry 00:45:26 Amy’s story — “Get up” and walk again 00:47:46 Prayer for the church and believers 00:49:53 Guest plugs and final thoughts
E177 The C👁️🗨️A's Greatest Hits
13 Oct 2025
00:44:18
Brandon and Lindsy welcome a guest who cracks open a hidden dossier on culture-war psyops—where protest songs, psychedelics, and carefully scripted narratives intertwine. Listeners are led through a labyrinth of acid parties that weren’t so “free,” Laurel Canyon salons doubling as distribution hubs, and elite families underwriting a psychedelic renaissance that looks far less organic than advertised. From Lennon to Hendrix, Cobain to Tupac, the names you thought were untouchable are revealed as pawns in a much bigger game. This conversation pulls the velvet curtain back on COINTELPRO echoes in hip-hop, the strange survival of “sex & rock ’n’ roll” while “no drugs” artists vanished, and the shift from vinyl manipulation to viral manipulation. Guiding us through this maze of evidence and implication is researcher and filmmaker John Potash.
00:52 Setting up today’s topic – hidden war through drugs & culture 02:00 John Potash joins 03:15 John’s personal story with LSD and realization 05:20 Counseling, corruption & activism background 07:45 Oligarch fingerprints on U.S. intelligence 10:00 How John got sources on Tupac & COINTELPRO 12:10 CIA whistleblowers & early articles 14:30 Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain & LSD distribution 16:50 MKULTRA documents & acid in colleges/prisons 19:10 Timothy Leary, Millbrook Mansion & the Mellons 21:25 Ken Kesey, Merry Pranksters & the psychedelic bus 23:50 Crisis-actor rumors about Tupac 26:15 The Grateful Dead & acid tests 28:30 How psychedelics weaken emotional control 31:20 John Lennon’s story, Yoko Ono & manipulation 33:35 Heroin as a control tactic & parallels with other artists 36:00 Psychedelics today, ketamine, and medical narrative 38:15 Funding links: MAPS, Heffter Institute & billionaires 40:35 Church abuse, MKULTRA techniques still active 42:55 John’s website, books & projects / closing thoughts
E176 Shroud-Pilled: Science Meets Resurrection
06 Oct 2025
01:05:03
This episode peers into a relic shrouded in both legend and light—the mysterious cloth known as the Shroud of Turin. Brandon, Lindsy, and guest cohost Jen Parks trace its strange trail through history, where carbon dating collides with forensic detail, plasma bursts hint at hidden forces, and ancient lenses raise unsettling questions. Is it art, accident, or a fragment of resurrection itself? In this journey through science, faith, and the unexplained, we welcome back Dr. Trevor Lohman.
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Timestamps
00:51 Welcome Back Dr. Trevor Lohman 03:18 Initial thoughts on the Shroud 05:39 First photograph and negative image 08:06 Depth data and 3D qualities 10:31 Skeptics vs believers 12:50 Gospel accounts and contradictions 15:12 Faith vs relic debates 17:30 Forensic blood evidence 19:53 Camera obscura theory 22:16 Carbon dating controversy 24:31 Tracing historical custody 26:55 1988 carbon dating scandal 29:18 Problems with raw data 31:38 Explaining carbon dating 34:00 Non-invasive dating evidence 36:26 Historical chain back to Edessa 38:42 Motives and skepticism 41:05 Plasma discharge theory 43:29 Double superficiality discovery 45:53 Shroud uniqueness 48:16 Free will and faith tension 50:42 Protestant skepticism 53:06 Trevor’s personal transformation 55:18 Skeptical vs believer arguments 57:39 AB blood and relic debates 01:00:02 Resurrection significance 01:02:26 Trevor’s podcast and other books
E175 The Spirit Already in You
29 Sep 2025
01:12:00
This conversation takes a thoughtful, no-nonsense look at Spirit baptism, gifts, and the heart of what it means to walk in the Spirit. Brandon, Lindsy, and returning guest Clint Byars unravel the baggage around tongues, anointing, and impartation—while exposing how elitism and gnostic thinking have shaped Charismania. They wrestle through semantics, misunderstood doctrines, and real-life experiences of the Spirit, ultimately pointing back to the simplicity of being complete in Christ. From worship as warfare to fasting as a tool for training the flesh, this episode dives into how believers can yield to the Spirit without chasing after hype. Clint closes by sharing a powerful, holistic gospel message rooted in God’s love, freedom, and kingdom reality.
Timestamps: 00:00 Understanding Spirit Baptism 00:45 Clint's Journey to Faith 02:23 The Role of the Holy Spirit 05:37 Semantics of Spirit Baptism 07:24 Misunderstandings in Pentecostalism 09:17 Gnosticism and Its Impact 10:46 Experiencing the Holy Spirit 13:49 The New Covenant and the Holy Spirit 17:22 Obedience vs. Dead Works 20:45 The Outpouring of the Holy Spirit 21:11 Understanding Being Filled with the Spirit 23:12 The Role of the Spirit in Ministry 23:57 Receiving the Spirit: An Active Process 25:46 Contrasting Old and New Testament Experiences 26:36 Gnosticism and the Charismatic Movement 29:12 The Elitism of Spiritual Gifts 30:55 Understanding Spiritual Gifts in Community 33:01 The Toolbox of the Holy Spirit 36:47 Proactive Spiritual Warfare 39:46 Exploring Tongues and Prayer Language 42:48 The Quantum Connection: Consciousness and Creation 43:50 Praying with Authority: Co-laboring with God 45:56 The Power of Tongues: A Divine Gift Under Attack 48:06 Fasting and Spiritual Awareness: The Heart's Role 51:46 Understanding the Heart: The Bridge Between Spirit and Soul 57:24 The Gospel of the Kingdom: A Message of Love and Redemption
E174 Watchers in the Walls: When the Stones Started Talking Back
22 Sep 2025
01:05:45
An ancient site older than history itself flips the script on everything we thought we knew about human origins, religion, and the unseen world. Brandon and Lindsy dig into the strange reality of massive stone structures that shouldn’t exist in the so-called Stone Age—carvings that hint at Watchers, sacred rituals, and even a hidden language lost to time. From ancestor worship and moon-gods to the shocking possibility that humanity’s first couple was deified in stone, this conversation uncovers connections that challenge archaeology, theology, and the very foundations of civilization. Sure, this guest has been interviewed before—but never like this!
00:06 Divine nature and cosmology 03:16 Early assumptions about Gobekli Tepe 05:42 Agriculture vs. ritual first 08:08 Pre-agriculture abundance 10:33 Was the site deliberately buried? 12:47 Animal guardians and supernatural ties 14:50 Connections to Watchers and cherubim 17:17 Symbols, logograms, and proto-writing 19:45 Luwian language theory 24:28 Re-dating Gobekli Tepe to Bronze Age? 26:48 Parallel cultures and locked technologies 28:55 Explosion of civilization after the flood 31:17 Natural resources vs. stones as religion 33:41 Ancestor worship and sacred spaces 36:07 Deified Adam and Eve imagery 38:30 Fox pelt loincloths and Genesis echoes 40:51 Council-like sacred rituals 43:03 Skull fragments and burial practices 45:20 Regeneration, vultures, and fertility 47:43 Nimrod, Babel, and divine intervention 50:05 What’s next in Aaron’s research 52:23 Moon-god worship and biblical connections 54:41 The wilderness of Sin 56:57 Stones, ancestors, and biblical prohibitions 59:23 Where to find Aaron’s work 01:01:44 Patreon and Ancient Pathways resources 01:04:07 Future hope for Gobekli Tepe research
E173 How to Bury a Nephilim
15 Sep 2025
01:02:01
Something old is hiding in the text—older than creeds, louder than tradition, and it doesn’t like the light. Our returning guest slips us a trail of clues through Genesis 6, Psalm 82, and Deuteronomy 32, pointing to quiet edits, missing words, and a council in the shadows. If those changes are real, they don’t just touch giants—they press on the very name “Son of God.” The story widens: rabbis, translators, and empires trying to hush a supernatural thread that keeps resurfacing. And for reasons that feel uncomfortably current, that thread pulls on politics, bloodlines, and the way nations are discipled. We don’t exactly solve the mystery—but we hand you some compelling evidence with a map.
Timestamps
00:57 Brandon’s wrestling-style intro 02:10 Why he wrote his new paper 03:17 Pushback against the Nephilim worldview 05:33 How rabbis altered texts in the 2nd century 07:56 Augustine and Chrysostom’s naturalistic shift 10:21 Two Powers in Heaven and early Jewish thought 12:41 Jesus quoting Psalm 82 and its implications 15:00 Masoretic vs Septuagint vs Dead Sea Scrolls 17:21 Deliberate changes in Deuteronomy 32 and Psalm 82 19:43 New Greek translations to counter the Septuagint 22:10 Early church fathers’ awareness of text changes 24:30 Speculation about anti-supernatural agendas 26:56 Islam, henotheism, and Gnostic influence 29:15 Jewish fables, genealogies, and textual variants 31:44 Melchizedek, Shem, and genealogy manipulation 34:04 Psalm 110 and begotten-before-the-dawn language 36:32 Connections to Hebrews and Jesus as Melchizedek 38:51 Why the Nephilim worldview faces modern resistance 41:09 Tradition vs biblical interpretation in Reformed circles 43:27 Augustine’s overwhelming influence 45:32 Quickfire speculative questions for Doug 47:57 Demythologizing scripture and politics 50:23 Dispensationalism, Zionism, and modern Israel 52:32 A biblical chiasm of 1–12–70–nations 54:50 Paul before the Sanhedrin and watcher parallels 57:15 Great Commission as discipling nations 59:40 Two Israels, replacement theology debates
E172 Celtic Fire for the Modern Church
08 Sep 2025
01:02:00
Ever wonder what the future of the church might look like if we tapped into its wild, earthy, and Spirit-filled roots? In this episode, your host BrandonSpain along with Matthew McGuire welcome back author Michael Mitton to explore the wisdom of Celtic Christianity. From sacred landscapes and supernatural encounters to rhythms of prayer, humility, and community, the conversation weaves together theology, history, and the supernatural. They dive into topics like sacred spaces, healing the land, women in ministry, charismatic gifts, and the role of humility in miracles. This one blends ancient faith with modern hunger for authenticity and renewal—and might just give us a glimpse of John 17 lived out.
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Timestamps:
02:47 Roots of Celtic Christianity 05:12 Physical prayer and worship 07:30 Earthy everyday spirituality 09:49 Protestant hesitation with Catholic practices 12:11 Charismatic adoption of contemplative practices 14:33 Weaving the strands of faith 16:57 Sacred spaces and healing the land 19:17 Contaminated land and cleansing stories 21:38 Creation, nature, and avoiding new age distortions 24:05 Celtic vs Roman view of human nature 26:27 Patrick vs Augustine’s confessions 28:53 Eastern and desert influences 31:09 Solitude and community rhythm 32:43 Anam Cara and soul friendship 35:09 Spiritual direction and confession 37:28 Green and white martyrdom 39:51 Missionary adventure and divine restlessness 42:05 Woven cord and Trinity emphasis 44:28 Michael’s novel and magical realism 45:40 Women in ministry in Celtic Christianity 48:03 Brigid’s story and authority 50:27 Charismatic gifts and humility 52:50 Holiness and humility as prerequisites for miracles 55:13 Eastern vs Western church architecture 57:31 Favorite Celtic saints 59:55 Future of the church
E171 The Magical Ducklings and the Kingdom of God
01 Sep 2025
01:13:13
What happens when a chaos magician encounters the living God? In this raw and unforgettable episode, Cole Harrison recounts his wild descent into psychedelic rituals, demonic possession, and occult deception — and the divine rescue that changed everything. From tripping in a basement drum circle to crying out to God in the Oregon wilderness, Cole’s story is a supernatural rollercoaster of redemption. Now, he’s flipping the script, ministering to the same crowd he once ran with — using music, tea, and the presence of Jesus in the middle of psychedelic festivals. It’s gritty, honest, and lit with the fire of the Holy Spirit.
Timestamps 00:06 Demonic encounter and heavenly intervention 00:28 Introducing Cole Harrison 02:44 Childhood spirituality and early artistic family background 05:06 Drawn to the occult and discovery of witchcraft books 07:27 Early black magic practices and spiritual fractures 09:51 Arrest, rituals, and descent into chaos magic 12:13 Drum-based spirit manipulation and psychedelic influence 14:40 Traveling, manipulation magic, and Castaneda-inspired sorcery 17:03 Introduction of sinister teacher and basement rituals 19:32 Possession experiences during chaos drumming 21:53 Demonic manifestations and internal torment 24:16 Connection to Process Church similarities 26:30 The complexity of electronic music and tripping 28:55 Turning point in the woods, divine encounter 31:16 Realization of deception at Grateful Dead concert 33:40 Demon voices, self-harm, and deliverance in the woods 36:01 Spiritual breakthrough and divine rescue 38:15 Journey to Rainbow Gathering and continued torment 40:36 Encounter with the Bread of Life kitchen and Jesus 42:53 Full surrender, first Bible reading, and confirmation 45:12 First deliverance experience in Dallas 47:32 Filled with the Holy Spirit and slain in the spirit 49:52 Ministry at Bonnaroo and psychedelic outreach 52:10 Redeeming psychedelic culture through creative ministry 54:22 What New Agers get right and wrong 56:43 Reflections on theology, childhood, and spiritual fatherhood 59:05 Psychedelics, mind control, and Laurel Canyon 01:01:31 Supernatural love and genuine community in evangelism 01:04:20 Media mind control and spiritual warfare 01:06:44 Advice for those called to reach the fringes 01:09:07 Embracing weirdness and creativity in ministry 01:11:29 Where to find Cole’s music and final encouragement
Ever wondered what happens when a neuroscientist follows the data and ends up finding God? This week, we sit down with Dr. Trevor Lohman, author of God’s Eye View, to explore the wild intersection of neuroscience, quantum physics, and biblical faith. From the double-slit experiment to the mystery of consciousness, Trevor walks us through how science isn't just compatible with belief in God—it might actually demand it. We also touch on microtubules, frequencies, and a future episode on the Shroud of Turin!
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Timestamps
00:09 Worldview, science, and truth 01:08 Introducing Dr. Trevor Lohman 02:51 Tesla, science conspiracies, and shadow history 05:10 Growing up in scientism culture 07:30 Shattered worldview and rise of skepticism 09:56 Discovering the political and financial layers of science 12:17 Personal background and corruption in healthcare 14:39 Philosophy, quantum physics, and shifting perceptions 16:56 Defining consciousness and free will 19:16 Mind vs brain: is there a driver in the car? 21:37 Observer effect and the self 24:03 Supernatural interpretations of hallucinations 26:22 Jesus, science, and the power of belief 28:43 Science as method vs worldview 31:07 Quantum physics and New Testament parallels 33:07 Christians vs New Age belief in benevolence 35:24 Encountering the gospel as an adult scientist 37:48 The double-slit experiment explained 42:32 Light as wave vs particle 44:56 Consciousness collapses reality 47:07 Simulation theory and rendering reality 50:27 Co-creation and observation 50:54 Entanglement and faster-than-light communication 53:18 Special relativity and breaking it with entanglement 55:37 Consciousness transmission vs production theories 57:55 Microtubules as antennas of the soul 01:00:20 Sleep, prayer, psychedelics, and consciousness 01:02:26 Frequency, science, and spiritual overlap 01:04:44 New age vs science: where's the line? 01:07:01 Real definitions of frequency 01:09:26 Psychedelics, dreams, and microtubules 01:11:46 Radio waves, spiritual realms, and spectrum limits 01:14:11 Frequency medicine and Alzheimer’s 01:16:38 Why frequency-based health is underfunded 01:19:01 Shifting focus to the soul and spiritual formation 01:21:23 Shroud of Turin as scientific mystery 01:23:48 Evidence for the shroud's authenticity 01:26:13 Light, resurrection, and conception 01:27:30 Future topics: AI, consciousness, and shroud 01:27:56 Outro and contact info
E169 Weird Is Biblical… and We’ve Got More Proof
18 Aug 2025
00:48:48
This conversation gets Holy Spirit wild! We toss the religious rule book aside and step straight into the deep end of supernatural encounters—exploring altered states of consciousness in the Bible, Old Testament prophets who acted in ways that would shock most church folks today, and how these experiences can’t be judged by outward appearance alone with returning guest Dr. Merrill Greene, author of Drunk in the Spirit. Merrill unpacks both the scholarship and the strangeness, tying ecstatic experiences to solid biblical precedent, while Brandon shares some wild personal stories (including one about Sandy getting “glued” to the floor). From Saul’s prophetic nakedness to modern misunderstandings like “Kundalini” accusations, this episode pushes past fear, control, and skepticism to ask—what if God is stranger than we think, and closer than we realize?
Timestamps 00:08 Saul’s example and modern parallels 00:27 Intro to the episode 01:00 Holy Spirit wild and Dr. Merrill Greene returns 02:50 From cessationist to charismatic 05:13 Brandon’s and Sandy’s personal encounters 07:35 Power of lived experience over doctrine 09:55 Old Testament altered states examples 12:16 Misunderstanding altered states in the West 14:26 Academic hesitation toward supernatural topics 16:41 Biblical illiteracy and ignoring the weird parts 19:03 Letting go of control for God’s purposes 21:17 Practicing and maturing in spiritual gifts 23:36 Signs that make you wonder 26:00 Ephesians 5:18 and spiritual intoxication 28:16 Tongues under the prophetic ecstasy umbrella 30:41 Biblical and extra-biblical perspectives 33:07 Archaeology, incense, and hallucinogenics 35:28 Strange fire and God’s terms for communication 37:50 Lonnie Frisbee and encountering Jesus despite drugs 39:55 Future revival and manifestations 42:25 Kundalini accusations and discernment of spirits 44:47 Mislabeling spirits and Catholic demonology 47:35 Closing and where to find Dr. Merrill Greene
E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?
11 Aug 2025
01:01:08
Ever wondered if remote viewing is just government psy-op weirdness, or WHAT!? In this episode, we welcome back Matthew McGuire—biblical scholar turned parapsychology researcher—to help us sort through the controversy. We explore remote viewing from its scientific roots in the Rhine Research Center and military intelligence units, to its surprising parallels with Christian spiritual gifts like prophecy and words of knowledge. From biblical examples to Watchman Nee’s take on the latent power of the soul, this one hits every angle: theology, science, history, and controversy. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or already peeking through the veil, this episode is an eye-opener.
Brand-new book on trance and ecstasy in the Bible; referenced for biblical context on altered states
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Timestamps:
00:06 Navigating the tension of faith and caution 01:59 What is remote viewing? 02:44 History of parapsychology and its Christian overlaps 04:48 Empirical evidence and scientific classification 05:47 Defining remote viewing from a parapsychology lens 07:26 Comparing charismatic gifts and psychic ability 09:49 Matt’s personal research journey and resources 12:08 Mechanics of remote viewing vs. spiritual gifts 14:30 Signal, noise, and analytical overlay 16:50 Prophetic missteps and community interpretation 19:15 Biblical school of prophets and sanctification 21:37 Watchman Nee and latent power of the soul 24:04 Soul powers pre-fall and spiritual caution 26:29 Trauma, programming, and remote viewing triggers 28:45 Evangelical fear vs. divine sovereignty 31:08 Divination in Scripture and biblical nuance 33:30 The role of intention in discerning practices 35:43 Trance, ecstasy, and biblical precedent 38:04 Response to critiques and misinformation 40:31 The matrix vs. spirit guides in RV 42:54 Spiritual gifts vs. trained psychic ability 45:10 Elisha, the king's bedroom, and biblical examples 47:31 Warning against ego-driven pursuit of power 49:50 Brandon’s 3-part Jesus model: gifts, character, discipleship 50:58 Sensory deprivation and altered states 53:22 Worship, water, and spiritual receptivity 55:36 Practical resources to learn about RV 58:02 Upcoming classes and Christian saints in parapsychology 59:55 Final thoughts and where to find Matt online
E167 Rotten Truths: Whispers from the Process
04 Aug 2025
01:27:33
#4 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes-
In this jam-packed episode, Brandon and Lindsy welcome Dana of Rotting Jewels for a wild ride through some of the darkest corners of cult history, counterculture, and covert influence. From the shadowy origins of the Process Church to links with the Manson family, Sons of Sam, Scientology, and MKUltra, Dana pulls back the curtain on networks most folks don’t even know exist. They discuss infiltration into churches, animal rights fronts, and even Hollywood. With mafia connections, occult rituals, psychological warfare, and government psyops all woven in—this one’s got everything but the kitchen sink. Good luck sleeping tonight.
Timestamps: 00:09 Cults, psyops, and tangled truths 02:32 How Dana got into studying the Process Church 04:49 Ed Sanders’ early work and importance 07:10 Scientology’s violent policies and Michael Carr 09:31 Game of the Gods and cult indoctrination 11:03 How secrecy works in ritual networks 13:22 NYPD investigator stories and ritual crimes 15:36 Serial killers, mind control, and network overlap 17:44 John Douglas, behavioral profiling, and coverups 20:04 Snuff films, pornography, and organized crime 22:19 Cult funding, real estate, and government psyops 24:45 Naval intelligence, Scientology, and spook connections 26:58 MKUltra, psychedelics, and John Potash’s research 29:14 Dana’s personal backlash from Scientology 31:32 Origins and myths of the Process Church 33:33 Legal documents, missionary cover, and Mexico exile 35:51 Transition to the Foundation Faith and prison infiltration 38:00 Satanic Temple and process theology overlap 40:18 Netflix’s Sons of Sam and documentary distortion 42:43 Franco’s The Deuce and sanitized narratives 44:58 Evolution of the Process into "faith healing" movements 47:18 High-level infiltration and transhumanist goals 49:38 Sirhan Sirhan, Blavatsky Foundation, and media cover 52:01 Jolly West, MKUltra labs, and blackmail operations 54:18 Haight-Ashbury Clinic and human trafficking 56:32 Children of God and New York AG’s findings 58:44 Jonestown, tax exemption, and deprogramming psyops 01:00:58 Best Friends Animal Society and Utah compound 01:03:15 Temple activity, power usage, and secret research 01:05:35 German Shepherd symbolism and Nazi ideology 01:07:47 Nazi ideology and Scientology’s dark beliefs 01:09:59 Mafia connections, drugs, and Manson links 01:12:27 Propaganda documentaries and buried clues 01:14:49 Berkowitz's silence, longnecks, and prison threats 01:17:01 Mafia spiritual figures and recent Berkowitz interview 01:19:30 New Netflix documentary and future crime pinning 01:20:53 Role of motorcycle gangs in cult operations 01:21:52 Why bikers were ideal tools for ritual work 01:23:01 Rapid-fire Q&A with Dana 01:24:12 Michael Thevis and mafia-porn connections 01:26:20 Final thanks and how to follow Dana
E166 When Darkness Meets Mercy: A Killer’s Redemption
28 Jul 2025
01:12:55
#3 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes-
Ever wondered what redemption looks like for a serial killer? This episode’s going to challenge everything you think you know about good, evil, and the reach of God’s mercy. Brandon, Lindsy, and co-host Jen Parks unravel the story of David Berkowitz—yes, the Son of Sam—and his journey from demonic chaos to radical transformation. They explore the trauma, lies, and spiritual strongholds that shaped his life, and how Jesus met him in a prison cell. From cult involvement and MKUltra theories to deep emotional healing and true crime rabbit holes, this one goes there. What if the worst of the worst can be redeemed?
Timestamps: 00:56 Redemption or jailhouse con? 02:45 Jen's obsession with true crime 04:58 John Douglas, Mindhunter, and SRA doubt 07:12 Ritual abuse denial and its consequences 09:37 Berkowitz’s testimony and Jen’s skepticism 11:59 Monster Mirror and shared humanity 14:25 Process Church connections and spiritual warfare 16:42 Identity, shame, and God's long game 19:01 Jailhouse salvation myths busted 21:25 Early trauma and emotional abandonment 23:47 Adoption trauma and never feeling at home 26:08 Push-pull love and attachment issues 28:25 Shame, guilt, and performance Christianity 30:48 Firestarting, self-harm, and brain trauma 33:14 How the Process Church love-bombed him 35:30 Programmed to kill and lone shooter myths 37:54 Samhain, occult cryptids, and symbolism 40:17 MKUltra, authors, and childhood disillusionment 42:46 The quiet moment of salvation in a prison cell 45:07 Redemption fruit and prison ministry 47:33 Identity lies, Genesis truth, and the orphan spirit 49:55 Losing your individuality in cults 52:09 Dying to self vs. killing your uniqueness 54:36 Enemy’s playbook and emotional triggers 56:59 Why media ignores Berkowitz’s redemption 59:17 A letter-writing ministry to the lost 01:01:39 Caparelli’s interviews and final confession 01:04:02 Final thoughts on spiritual cover-ups 01:06:22 Message of hope: no one is too far gone
E165 Mojave Mysteries: Moth to the Flame
21 Jul 2025
00:56:24
Ever wonder what’s really going on in the desert when tens of thousands gather to build a temporary city and burn a giant effigy? In this offbeat episode of Mojave Mysteries, we step just outside the Mojave and into the heart of the Black Rock Desert to explore Burning Man—its roots, rituals, and strange esoteric undercurrents. Brandon and Lindsy are joined by BT Wallace to tackle the symbolism of fire, liminality, mystery schools, countercultures, and even the Nephilim agenda. From sympathetic magic to CIA surveillance, this episode doesn’t just ask questions—it burns them into the sand.
Timestamps: 01:00 Overview of Burning Man origins 02:18 Symbolism of the effigy and sympathetic magic 04:42 Ancient fire rituals and esoteric connections 07:04 Black Rock Desert and Paiute water baby myths 09:30 Occult views of waterways and dry lakebeds 11:35 Collective ritual and sympathetic resonance 12:29 Burning and cremation traditions across cultures 14:41 Catholic and Presbyterian burial practices 17:03 The utopian illusion and societal experiments 19:22 Watchers, Nephilim, and spiritual magnetism 21:33 Rituals, lights, and spiritual pheromones 23:52 The effigy’s origin story and contradictions 26:15 Mock freedom vs. true spiritual liberty 28:32 Cacophony Society and Silicon Valley roots 30:57 Hypocrisy of Burning Man’s 10 Principles 33:21 Chuck Palahniuk and cultural chaos 35:38 Spiritual warfare and societal engineering 37:58 Government programming and MKUltra links 40:12 Christianity as the true counterculture 42:07 Constantine and the church’s cultural shift 44:09 Eugenics, contraception, and deception 46:31 DARPA, frequencies, and surveillance 48:56 Petri dish of social chaos and control 51:19 Phoenix symbolism and the fake resurrection 53:40 Moses’ fire vs. man-made flame
E163 Something Deeper This Way Comes: Coast to Cult -Part 2
14 Jul 2025
01:05:06
Things get dark in this part two of the Sons of Sam series. Brandon and Lindsy crack open the ritualistic layers surrounding the Berkowitz case and Maury Terry’s explosive claims. From the eerie murder of Arlis Perry to the strange deaths of the Carr brothers, the duo follows a sinister trail that points to organized cult activity—possibly reaching into military bases, MKUltra, and even serial killer networks. With threads leading to the Process Church, Manson, Zodiac, and the CIA, this isn’t just a crime story—it’s a tangled web of mind control, spiritual warfare, and hidden agendas. And yes, they go full conspiracy mode, all while keeping it rooted in truth.
00:08:00 Cult tactics and MKUltra 00:54:00 Intro to part two and recap 01:56:00 Fear, lies, and Berkowitz’s silence 03:30:00 Arlis Perry’s ritualistic murder 06:32:00 Satanic panic as smokescreen 08:49:00 Who were the Carr brothers? 11:07:00 The Breslin letter and multiple shooters 13:24:00 Was Arlis’s murder covered up? 15:46:00 More strange connections and police pressure 18:08:00 Occam’s Razor fails in conspiracies 20:33:00 Untermyer Park and Devil’s Cave 22:51:00 Animal sacrifice, Nazi ideology, and Chile 25:16:00 Global trail of cult killings 27:39:00 Process Church theology 29:54:00 Jesus and Satan reconciled? 32:19:00 Controlled opposition and sleeper cells 34:37:00 Animal sanctuaries with occult ties 36:36:00 Human sacrifice in modern disguise 38:57:00 CIA, law enforcement, and the occult 41:18:00 Cults as intelligence experiments 43:42:00 Casinos, sensory deprivation, and dark psychology 45:58:00 Principalities at work 48:20:00 Serial killer networks and the Zodiac 50:37:00 Are serial killers actually organized? 52:04:00 Mentors, handlers, and network cleanups 54:34:00 Media distractions and erosion of trust 56:49:00 Process Church still active? 59:12:00 Was Maury Terry taken down strategically? 01:01:40 Outro and reminder of Jesus as the answer
E162 Something Deeper This Way Comes: Coast to Cult -Part 1
07 Jul 2025
00:57:01
You think you know the Son of Sam story—lone gunman, demon dog, case closed. But what if the real story is way more tangled, way more sinister, and still unfolding? In this kickoff to a multi-part series, Brandon and Lindsy crack open Maury Terry’s The Ultimate Evil, exploring occult networks, multiple shooters, and a satanic underground that spans the country. From Yonkers to Minot to LA, this episode sets the stage for a wild conspiracy ride. Is Berkowitz just a fall guy? Who were the Carr brothers? And why was the case slammed shut so fast? You’re about to find out.
00:52: Brandon and Lindsy set up the series 01:50: Berkowitz and the demon dog narrative 03:13: Maury Terry and the deeper trail 04:06: Breakdown of the Son of Sam timeline 06:27: The 44 caliber killer gets a name 08:50: The famous Breslin letter 11:06: Berkowitz’s arrest and eerie confession 13:26: Eyewitness contradictions and sketch inconsistencies 15:51: Political motives and the Netflix angle 18:11: Enter Maury Terry and his obsession 20:36: Discrepancies in the letters and handwriting 23:01: Untermeyer Park, rituals, and satanic signs 25:16: Political pushback and Terry's credibility 27:43: Process Church teaser and cult networks 30:05: Berkowitz’s confession vs. fear and silence 32:23: Military ties and the Carr brothers 34:46: Suspicious deaths of the Carr brothers 37:12: Minot cult ties and law enforcement tensions 39:30: The Process Church’s expansion into America 41:59: The theology of the Process Church 44:26: Lawsuits, censorship, and occult influence 46:50: Origins in Scientology and compulsions analysis 49:09: Lindsay on Manson, cult overlaps, and biker connections 53:53: Connections to Scientology and suppressed research 55:47: Cliffhanger and setup for part 2
E161 Made to Heal: Why Your Body Can Beat the System
30 Jun 2025
01:27:58
What if the toxins in your body aren't just making you sick… but making you easier to control? In this mind-bending episode, Dr. Robin Braun returns to blow our minds and strengthen our spirits. From smart dust and nanotech to EMFs, vaccines, and mind control frequencies, this conversation is packed with fringe-y facts and soul-saving solutions. But don’t worry—it’s not all doom and gloom. Dr. Robin shares practical tools, detox hacks, and a spiritual framework for staying aligned, healthy, and naturally supernatural in a technocratic world gone rogue.
01:23 Babylonian church structures 03:02 Authoritarianism vs. biblical leadership 04:15 The toxic American lifestyle 05:09 The Sahara metaphor for toxicity 07:22 Chemtrails and smart dust 09:38 Bioweapons and Lyme disease 11:56 Vaccine admissions and mind control 14:20 Frequency medicine explained 16:42 Rife machines and healing 19:07 Scalar energy and AO Scan 21:16 The unholy trinity: pharma, doctors, insurance 23:22 EMFs and radiation sickness 25:46 Harmonizing devices and practical tools 28:03 Detoxing while traveling 30:20 The role of military frequency weapons 32:45 Why EMFs are disharmonious 35:10 Glyphosate, heavy metals, and hormone disruption 37:23 Smart dust and brain-machine interface 38:29 Morgellons and nanotech in the body 40:50 Frequency control and black goo 43:13 Demonic influence and energy 45:37 Voice-to-skull tech and spiritual warfare 47:42 Operation Paperclip and transhumanism 49:58 Super soldiers for the Kingdom 52:17 Spiritual immunity through sonship 54:40 Mind-controlled rioters and movie metaphors 56:54 Pineal gland suppression via vaccines 59:08 Mark of the Beast and compliance 01:01:23 Evolution of psyops into technomancy 01:03:53 Nicotine patches for detoxing spike proteins 01:06:09 MyBadBatch.com and placebo vials 01:08:20 Tobacco and nicotine myths 01:10:40 Caffeine and natural stimulants 01:13:02 Making food choices that heal 01:15:26 Water contamination and glyphosate 01:17:49 Kingdom health and performance-based suffering 01:20:06 EMF and nanotech remediation tools 01:22:25 Detox hacks and grape juice swish test 01:24:50 Parasites and spiritual open doors 01:26:44 Final encouragement and resources
E160 Mighty Men: Origins
23 Jun 2025
01:14:16
You ever hear someone say, “I make comic books—but I can’t draw”? That’s just the start of this wild ride. In this episode, we talk with Adam Farris —graphic novelist, spiritual archaeologist, and biblical giant sleuth. He dives into the gritty truths behind David’s mighty men, hidden genetics in the Bible, lion-faced warriors, and how ancient hybrid bloodlines might still shape our world today. From watercolor prophecy to Job 38’s cosmic riddles and even a trumpet blast from heaven—this one’s got everything. And yes, we ask the question: are there good giants?
Timestamps: 0:01:00 Meet, today’s co-host 0:01:38 Intro to Adam Farris 0:03:00 From tire manager to comic creator 0:05:12 Why David is a type of Christ 0:07:39 Grit, weakness, and strength in David’s story 0:10:06 How Adam created his graphic novel without knowing how to draw 0:12:30 Black-and-white vs watercolor aesthetic 0:14:52 Did Moses return with extraterrestrial architecture? 0:15:58 Comic books and the Nephilim connection 0:17:14 Stan Lee, archetypes, and long-game deception 0:19:33 How tall were biblical giants, really? 0:21:58 Hebrew language clues to size and genetics 0:24:26 Hieroglyphs, elephants, and ancient imports 0:26:51 Megaliths, suppression, and biblical timelines 0:29:17 World's Fairs, Arcturus, and free energy 0:31:40 Ancient symbols, fake orbs, and deception 0:34:06 Who were David’s mighty men? 0:36:32 The lion-faced warriors of Moab and Gad 0:38:55 Were they genetically mutated? 0:41:20 Epigenetics, incest, and hybrid lines 0:43:45 Transgressing boundaries and ancient sins 0:46:04 Giants, gibborim, and elite warriors 0:48:27 Stature, scale, and genetic markers in scripture 0:50:45 Breeding vs lab-grown Nephilim 0:53:05 Blue-skinned inbreds and genetic quirks 0:55:28 Why some tribes and animals had to be wiped out 0:57:54 Epigenetics and Nimrod’s transformation 1:00:10 Othniel, divine strength, and early judges 1:02:37 How modern people can relate to ancient giants 1:05:00 What Adam hopes his work will do 1:07:21 Are there good giants? 1:09:10 Adam’s most supernatural experience 1:11:12 Where to find Adam Farris online
E159 Let's Greek Out!
16 Jun 2025
01:09:57
Ever wondered what was going on between Malachi and Matthew? In this episode, we crack open the hidden history of the Maccabees with bestselling author and filmmaker Brian Godawa. From cosmic mountains to divine conspiracies, Brian walks us through the supernatural war behind the war—the Watchers, the Seleucids, the Hasmoneans, and yes, even Heracles. This isn’t just history—it’s theology, mythology, and gritty rebellion rolled into one epic story. If you've ever questioned why the Apocrypha matters or what angels were doing in ancient battles, don’t skip this one.
00:04 Greek Old Testament as standard 01:00 Intro to Brian Godawa 02:00 Why write about the Maccabees 04:00 God’s silence between the Testaments 06:00 Corruption of the high priesthood 08:00 Daniel’s prophecy and the Syrian Wars 11:00 Antiochus Epiphanes and the Abomination of Desolation 13:00 Why the Maccabees matter to biblical prophecy 15:00 Jewish resistance, martyrdom, and Hanukkah 18:00 Guerrilla warfare and temple restoration 20:00 Brian’s fiction process and supernatural worldbuilding 22:00 Filling the gaps with Apocrypha and legend 24:00 Demonic powers behind Greek gods 27:00 Tyranny, Tower of Babel, and repeating patterns 29:00 Cosmic mountains and divine geography 32:00 Mount Hermon, Eden, and sacred geography 34:00 Mount Zion vs Mount Bashan 36:00 Psalm 68, Sinai, and prophetic war 39:00 Supernatural battles in history and fiction 41:00 Sadducees, Pharisees, and Second Maccabees 44:00 Maccabees as inspiration for early Christians 46:00 Finding God through biblical storytelling 48:00 Reawakening interest in scripture 51:00 Leviathan, fiction, and research books 53:00 Bringing Greek mythology into the narrative 55:00 Greece vs Rome and Hellenistic influence 57:00 Greek Septuagint and early Christianity 59:00 Septuagint vs Masoretic Text 01:00:40 Rabbinic Judaism and scriptural changes 01:03:00 Virgin birth prophecy and textual differences 01:05:00 Where to find Brian’s work 01:06:30 Why these stories aren’t made into movies 01:07:40 Brian’s writing style and novel structure 01:08:40 Wrap-up and final thoughts
E158 Much Ado About Bacon
09 Jun 2025
01:10:32
Ever wondered if the father of modern science was also the architect of secret societies and a hidden empire? In this mind-bending episode, we welcome first-time guest Robert Frederick, host of The Hidden Life is Best podcast. We unravel the mysterious connections between Sir Francis Bacon, Shakespeare, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, and Gnosticism—asking how much influence one man might still have over modern Western thought. From Templar secrets and occult symbolism to the foundations of the American experiment, this conversation will leave you questioning everything you learned in history class.
Examines occult influence on English thinkers, including Bacon and his peers.
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Timestamps: 00:06 Bacon’s influence on science and Freemasonry 00:54 Introducing Robert Frederick 02:10 Why Bacon and the British Empire? 03:12 GMOs and scientism 05:21 Criticism of Shakespeare and propaganda 07:45 Richard III and The Lost King film 10:07 British monarchy and propaganda 12:29 Gnostic worldview explained 14:50 Simon Magus and early Gnosticism 17:16 Kabbalah, Cathars, and secret doctrines 19:41 Power, magic, and spiritual deception 22:00 Gnosticism in modern groups like Scientology 24:23 Bacon and the roots of Freemasonry 26:46 Secrets and structure in secret societies 29:10 Freemasonry in Christian denominations 31:36 Freemasonry and British imperial expansion 34:04 Solomon and his occult legacy 36:29 Bacon’s creation of the Rosicrucians 38:54 Frances Yates and Rosicrucian Enlightenment 41:20 Bacon’s scientific legacy and transhumanism 43:46 Bacon’s connection to America and corporations 46:00 London’s special status and myths debunked 48:15 Bacon’s role in founding Jamestown 50:40 Saint Germain and Baconian mythology 52:57 The true history of the Knights Templar 55:17 Templars as early bankers and power players 57:36 Templar survival and Freemasonry’s birth 59:56 Scotland’s role in sheltering the Templars 01:02:22 Bacon’s prophecy of Anglo-Scottish union 01:04:39 Three religions Bacon helped create 01:06:59 Final thoughts and book recommendations
E157 What If Faith Isn’t What You Think It Is?
02 Jun 2025
01:07:22
Faith, neuroscience, and quantum mechanics… oh my! In this episode, we bring back pastor, author, and teacher Clint Byars to dive deep into what it really means to live a faith-filled, supernatural life. From the genesis of his belief to the dangers of manipulating spiritual laws, Clint unpacks concepts like quantum faith, generosity, healing, and the true nature of God’s covenant. We get nerdy about wave functions, call out witchcrafty theology, and laugh along the way. This one is rich with revelation and mind-bending insights you don’t want to miss.
00:05 Jesus on answered prayer 00:28 Welcoming Clint Byars back 01:03 The Word of Faith movement and misconceptions 02:54 The genesis of Clint’s faith 05:14 Faith as a response to God 07:33 Seminary and the loss of supernatural perspective 09:52 Faith vs. works: James, Paul, and balance 12:16 Righteousness and the New Covenant 14:41 Hidden with Christ in God 17:01 The Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants 19:13 Faith and how we see God 21:36 Prayer, God’s will, and quantum alignment 24:04 Healing, the cross, and suffering 26:26 Trusting promises vs. forcing outcomes 28:39 Faith and quantum mechanics 31:09 God’s will, superposition, and choice 33:27 Why quantum mechanics points to God 35:46 Prayer and quantum entanglement 38:10 Vibrational resonance and remote influence 40:32 Spirit realm vs. quantum realm 42:56 The overlap of Eden and spiritual access 45:15 Ayahuasca, psychedelics, and spiritual backdoors 47:36 Prosperity gospel vs. Kingdom generosity 49:23 Locking the church and Rolex witchcraft 51:47 God’s heart: radical blessing 54:09 Provision, intention, and God’s character 56:30 Sowing, gratitude, and spiritual impact 58:50 Inheritance, hypocrisy, and next-gen provision 01:01:10 Scandalous grace and identity 01:03:36 Heaven, resources, and Clint’s free series 01:04:50 Clint’s church and website info
E156 Houston, We Have An Answer!
26 May 2025
01:51:44
An episode guaranteed to stop you in your tracks. Brandon and Lindsy sit down with Katie Asher, whose son Houston—a non-speaking autistic young man—opened a supernatural window into identity, frequency, faith, and healing. From vaccine injury to the mystery of the Hill, from church hurt to spiritual gifts most believers can’t even fathom, this is not just a testimony—it’s a paradigm shift. If you’ve ever questioned the nature of communication, healing, or what it means to believe God in the hardest places, don’t miss this one.
Timestamps: 01:20 Guest intro – Katie Asher 02:00 Autism as spiritual imprisonment 05:00 Developmental differences in sensory pruning 07:30 Vaccine injury and inflammation 10:00 Aluminum and cytokine storms 12:00 Katie's faith journey 14:30 Trauma, theology, and survival 16:50 Houston’s early symptoms 19:00 Medical discrimination against disabilities 21:30 Abandonment by church community 24:00 Theology of fatalism vs faith 28:40 The cost of bad theology 31:00 The pain of church exclusion 33:30 Houston’s "turtle" prophetic moment 35:30 Creation’s frequency and language 38:00 Houston returns to church 40:00 Frequency sensitivity explained 42:00 The language of energy 44:30 Biblical use of stones 47:00 Katie's skeptical breakthrough 50:20 Houston says “I love you” 52:00 Houston's first full communication 54:00 Houston hears thoughts 57:10 Frequencies, healing, and truth 59:30 Stones and the Word of God 01:02:00 Energy discernment in spiritual spaces 01:04:30 Intention and Christian authority 01:06:45 The Enlightenment’s influence 01:09:10 Telepathy in non-speakers 01:13:00 IQ tests and their flaws 01:16:30 Why letter boards are necessary 01:20:00 Eugenics and the autism label 01:23:20 Why aptitude matters more 01:25:40 What is “The Hill”? 01:28:00 Discernment vs spiritualism 01:30:20 How to build faith 01:32:40 Communion, frequency, and Christ 01:34:50 Spirit-matter integration 01:37:30 The three rulers in one body 01:39:45 Most non-speakers intuitively know Jesus 01:42:00 Grounding spiritually and physically 01:44:30 Feminine nature and balance 01:46:30 God’s intentionality in design 01:49:20 Closing prayer
E155 Too Torah-fied To Function
19 May 2025
01:08:46
What happens when good intentions toward biblical faithfulness lead to legalistic bondage? In this episode, we’re unpacking MORE THAN JUST the growing trend of Torah-keeping, feast day observance, and dietary codes among modern believers. Our returning guest, Dr. R.L. Solberg, takes us deep into his new book The Law, The Christ, The Promise—a verse-by-verse apologetic study of Galatians that lays out the dangers of blending Old Covenant rituals with New Covenant freedom. From practical theology to table fellowship, from legalism to love, this conversation is rich, nuanced, and deeply encouraging for anyone wrestling with law, liberty, and living out their faith in Christ.
Timestamps: 01:00 Hebrew Roots confusion and the fringy fallout 02:38 Why Rob wrote The Law, The Christ, The Promise 04:45 Galatians as an apologetic masterpiece 07:21 The "puppy principle" of biblical discernment 09:40 Righteousness, faith, and the promise to Abraham 12:05 Galatians and Hebrews—one letter theory? 14:29 What is the Law of Christ? 16:51 Is it internal or external? 19:05 Norway, fake priests, and heartless rituals 21:24 Old vs. New Covenant transformation 23:46 Loving your neighbor as proof of transformation 26:00 Legalism, language, and the limits of "love" 28:16 Blending old law with new grace 30:42 Permitted but not required practices 33:05 Jesus is better: lessons from Hebrews 35:26 Hebrew Roots trend: fascination to legislation 37:45 Red flags around "name of God" movements 40:10 The real danger—losing the mission 42:31 Walking by the Spirit through spiritual rhythms 44:50 Seeing Jesus in the Old Testament 47:05 Dietary laws and table fellowship 49:30 The vision of Peter and the clean/unclean debate 51:52 What really sets us apart now? 54:13 Close communion and open hearts 56:00 Galatians 2:16 and faith over law 59:07 Justified by faith, not performance 01:01:23 Hands-on ministry and spiritual growth 01:03:45 Silence, ADHD, and meeting God 01:05:58 Rob’s resources and where to find him
E154 Come Out, Come Out, Wherever You Are
12 May 2025
01:03:11
This episode goes deep into the wild and often misunderstood world of deliverance, the religious spirit, and spiritual formation. Brandon and Lindsy sit down with Michael Miller—pastor, teacher, and co-host of Remnant Radio—to tackle everything from charismatic excesses and cessationism to biblical boundaries and the power of intention. From demons hiding in plain sight to generational spirits, exorcism rituals, and the fine line between hype and holiness, this one pulls no punches. Plus, Michael shares a jaw-dropping recent encounter involving a spirit named Lilith. You’re not going to want to miss this conversation.
Timestamps: 02:08 ADHD demons and coffee 03:22 Michael’s journey from cessationism to the supernatural 05:43 Mentorship from Jack Deere 08:10 What is a religious spirit? 10:34 Charismatic tradition vs biblical foundation 13:00 Prayer language and public tongues 15:22 Hyper-grace and religious spirits 17:37 Courts of heaven and ritualism 19:59 Sensationalism in deliverance 22:18 Can Christians have demons? 24:40 What’s going right in deliverance today 27:05 Generational spirits and sin patterns 29:25 What if they don’t get saved? 31:51 Demonization vs possession 34:14 Real deliverance case study 36:34 Ouija boards and open doors 38:57 Truth encounter vs power encounter 41:20 Where demons manifest in the body 43:42 Are demons Nephilim or fallen angels? 46:08 Volume doesn’t equal authority 48:30 Responding to skeptics 50:49 The most supernatural thing Michael’s seen 53:11 Deliverance story involving Lilith 55:37 Post-deliverance identity crisis 58:04 Sola vs prima scriptura in practice 01:00:22 Where to find Michael Miller
E153 "Conjuring" Toasters
05 May 2025
00:50:21
What happens when you mix Ghostbusters nostalgia, biblical theology, and a love-hate relationship with horror films? You get a conversation like this one. Our guest brings his unique blend of storytelling and scriptural insight to the paranormal, exploring ghosts, demons, exorcism, and the Warrens with nuance and wit. We dig into Hollywood's influence on spiritual perception, challenge traditional views on the supernatural, and even question what really haunted the infamous Conjuring house. Get ready for ghosts, theology, and some toaster talk you didn’t know you needed.
Timestamps: 01:48 Nelly’s podcast origin and themes 02:37 Warrens and the Conjuring house controversy 03:13 Seances, trance mediums, and biblical boundaries 04:08 Was it the house or the people? 05:33 Demons attach to people, not places 06:25 Deliverance and spiritual authority 07:35 Andrea Perron 09:00 Post-Conjuring experiences and the family 10:00 Warrens’ short involvement vs. movie portrayal 11:15 Bathsheba Sherman myth vs. facts 12:22 Sincere seekers or spooky grifters? 13:50 Mission, marketing, or both? 14:31 Hollywood’s influence on demonology 16:47 Bringing shamans to a spiritual fight 17:30 Movies that spark spiritual questions 18:55 How the Bible reshaped Nelly’s view of the paranormal 20:25 Using paranormal as a bridge to the gospel 21:16 What are ghosts for? Theology gets messy 23:35 Demonic manipulation or damned souls? 25:55 WWI ghost story and theological implications 28:09 Why Nelly is okay with the messy middle 30:00 Test the spirits by the Spirit 30:29 Discernment in supernatural encounters 32:50 Modernity, mystery, and supernatural logic 35:16 Why the weirdness of God is beautiful 37:08 Unity in the Body and theological humility 39:26 Most supernatural experience: Nelly’s salvation 41:44 Ruth’s Jesus and divine intervention 43:49 From conversion to calling 46:15 The Man-Eating Toaster and cults 48:04 Naming the podcast and outreach in disguise
E151 Waking Up Was Never The Goal
28 Apr 2025
00:56:25
What if the chaos in conspiracy communities was by design? In this thought-provoking conversation, we’re joined by a guest who's no stranger to the shadowy overlaps of fringe beliefs, government psyops, and the supernatural. We crack open the “Cass Sunstein Effect” and explore how psychological manipulation, social media echo chambers, and even the church contribute to a distorted search for truth. From demons to disinformation, from Crowley to cryptids, nothing’s off the table in this deep-dive into discernment, deception, and discernment again. It’s a masterclass in keeping your eyes open—spiritually and intellectually.
Timeline: 00:09 Controlling the narrative 00:54 Guest intro: Joel Thomas of Free the Rabbits 03:19 Breaking down the deception in fringe spaces 05:39 Growing up with fringe interests 07:55 Creating a balanced, biblical lens 10:00 Real disinformation and the Cass Sunstein paper 12:10 The "everything is fake" trap 14:25 We weren’t made for heaven—our purpose on Earth 16:49 The problem with “waking people up” 19:05 What the Sunstein document got right 21:28 The rise of conspiracy culture since 2009 23:46 Critical thinking vs. jumping to conclusions 26:11 Disinformation and the “truth-er” crowd 28:31 The Sunstein paper and its ripple effects 30:51 Nudge theory and behavior manipulation 33:04 Noise-canceling deception 35:29 The real aim: dismantle trust 37:50 Disinformation leads to self-censorship 40:02 Discernment and spiritual grounding 42:21 The root issue: discontentment and money 44:40 End times hype and the business behind fear 46:58 Supernatural encounters and spiritual warfare 49:22 Film projects, portals, and the Meadow Project 51:41 Alistair Crowley, British intel, and cryptids 54:00 Final reflections and farewells
E150 YOU are the PRODUCT now!
21 Apr 2025
00:42:07
Let’s just say this isn’t your average history recap. In the final episode of our Operation Paperclip series, we connect the dots between Nazi scientists, modern surveillance, moral decay, and the spiritual consequences of trading ethics for technological progress. From Neuralink to data manipulation, we peel back the shiny lab coat to expose the sinister roots—and lasting legacy—of Paperclip. The crew gets raw about the church’s prophetic role, fifth-generation warfare, and whether we’re building the next Babel. Here it is a full-spectrum analysis of power, eschatology, and what it means to resist with truth.
Timestamps: 01:00 Moral compromises 03:00 The “greatest generation” contradiction 05:00 Monsters in lab coats 07:00 Neuralink and voice deception 08:00 Medical science vs bioweapons 10:00 CIA origins and OSS deep dive 12:00 What would Jesus do about Paperclip? 14:00 Counterculture and fake grassroots movements 15:00 Babel, tech leaps, and unnatural energy 17:00 Silicon Valley and scavenged knowledge 19:00 IQ illusion and seedline manipulation 20:00 Oz and Tower of Babel 2.0 22:00 Echoes of Noah’s days 23:00 Nazi punch cards and surveillance today 25:00 AI, facial recognition, and digital control 27:00 Data reduction = manipulation 28:00 Word-based warfare and eschatology 30:00 Crumbling towers and prophetic hope 32:00 Outliers and underground church revival 34:00 The future church as resistance 36:00 Multiplication vs addition in discipleship 38:00 Final reflections and the hidden Nazi legacy
E149 How to Spiritually Cleanse (No Sage Needed)
14 Apr 2025
01:07:32
Ever wondered if your home could be spiritually “off”? In this eye-opening episode, Doug Overmyer returns to take us deep into his book Peace in Your House. We get into everything from spiritual atmospheres and demonic influence to identity, repentance, and practical steps to cleansing your home and land. Doug breaks down the difference between praying a prayer and living in authority, talks angels (and why they’re not your spiritual butlers), and dives into the role of worship and fasting in spiritual warfare. With loads of insight, honesty, and a healthy dose of discernment, this one’s a must-listen for anyone serious about walking in spiritual freedom.
Peace in Your House book--https://amzn.to/4lpUtk4 Seers See book --https://amzn.to/3XUviMC https://www.youtube.com/@seerssee Episode 123 To See or Not to See Timestamps: 03:20 Origins of the Seers See ministry 05:37 The problem with quick-fix prayers 08:01 Worldview foundations and genre awareness 10:22 Identity and taking thoughts captive 12:29 Domain of darkness vs Kingdom of God 14:49 No days off in spiritual warfare 17:09 Identity and authority foundation 19:26 Worship as warfare 21:43 Misconceptions about dominion and sacred time 23:51 Warfare at home and on your land 26:10 Cleansing homes and discerning objects 28:34 Worship and presence in your environment 30:54 Music, harmony, and the Kingdom 33:21 Signs your home may need cleansing 35:39 Shalom as more than peace 37:59 Demons in your dryer and other weird things 40:20 Praying with specificity and spiritual protection 42:44 How to identify charged objects 45:07 Hidden idols and thrift store dangers 47:29 Guardian angels and assignments 49:50 Don’t order angels around 52:11 Beware of getting chummy with angels 54:31 Divine councils and deception 56:50 Spiritual maturity vs spiritual pride 59:09 Your real assignment: your family 01:01:33 Importance of community and hearing God 01:03:55 Doug’s info and what's next
E148 Are You Free If You Can't Question Everything?
07 Apr 2025
01:10:57
This episode is a wild ride through biblical conspiracies, secret edits to Scripture, and why Christians should be the most suspicious people in the room. Doug Van Dorn returns to unpack the supernatural and historical layers behind everything from the Masoretic text to media manipulation—and Brandon even drops insight on Bigfoot as an evangelistic tool. This one’s got theology, mystery, and a whole lot of mind-blowing moments. It's wild, it's weighty, and it's woven with truth. You’ll laugh, you’ll gasp, you might even reevaluate your eschatology. Let’s just say, if you’re not questioning everything, are you even free?
Timestamps: 01:40 Defining conspiracy theory 02:40 C- lockdown and Doug’s book 04:00 Why conspiracy theory isn’t crazy 05:30 Scientific corruption and journal manipulation 07:20 Foundation of depravity and discernment 08:30 Importance for Christians to understand conspiracy 09:40 Resurrection as a conspiracy counter-narrative 10:50 Enter the Masoretic Text conspiracy 14:20 Two Powers in Heaven and early Jewish theology 16:50 How rabbis altered Scripture 18:00 Messing with genealogies and timelines 20:30 Devious editing to block Messianic claims 22:00 Christian Zionism and Scripture twisting 24:00 Israel as God’s people—then and now 26:20 Jesus as True Israel and fulfillment 28:40 History of American conspiratorial thinking 30:00 Doug’s intro to conspiracies and “In Search Of” 31:20 9/11 and waking up to deception 33:00 Origins of “conspiracy theory” as a smear 35:30 Questioning government is American 37:50 Spiritual roots of conspiracy: Eden 40:10 Serpent seed vs. seed war explained 42:30 Nephilim, Watchers, and the bloodline 44:50 Blood of Jesus and redemption discussion 46:00 Gospel conversations from fringe topics 47:20 Biblical conspiracies galore 49:30 Trusting the Old Testament after textual changes 52:00 God's sovereignty over His Word 54:30 Doug’s favorite modern conspiracies 56:00 Q, children, and the darkest conspiracies 58:00 Christians must engage the supernatural 59:50 God exposes hidden things—even now 01:01:20 Having empathy for conspirators 01:03:00 Keep your eschatology grounded 01:06:00 Reformed Fringe platform 01:08:00 Calvinism and atonement discussion
E147 When Manipulation Hurts: The Perils of Christian Witchcraft
31 Mar 2025
01:18:22
In this episode, we tackle the misunderstood world of Christian witchcraft—but not in the way you think. Dr. Robin Braun is back and shares wild but sobering stories from her work with survivors of spiritual abuse, cult infiltration in churches, and how manipulation often masquerades as ministry. We also explore spiritual gifts, quantum healing, resonance, and the fine line between authentic supernatural experiences and counterfeit. It's eye-opening, challenging, and full of hope.
10:44 Identifying Manipulation and Control in Ministry
14:15 The Complexity of Spiritual Gifts and Witchcraft
20:50 Navigating Prayer and Intentions
28:52 Recognizing Red Flags in Church Leadership
38:21 Divine Ownership and Human Responsibility
39:48 Exploring Spiritual Laws and Medical Practices
41:09 The Role of Alternative Healing
43:33 Paradigm Shifts and Reprogramming Beliefs
45:57 The Power of Intention in Spiritual Practices
48:07 Mind Control and Critical Thinking
49:53 The Impact of Fear and Denial
51:22 Revival Outside Traditional Church Structures
52:47 The Health of Leadership in the Church
55:35 Infiltration of Occult Practices in Christianity
56:54 The Complexity of Spiritual Experiences
01:01:12 Understanding Frequency and Resonance
01:04:21 The Intersection of Science and Faith
01:10:04 The Nature of Prophecy and Intuition
01:12:51 Healing and the Body's Design
01:14:09 Closing Thoughts and Prayer
E146 Fringe, Church Hurt, and Marriage: What Really Matters?
24 Mar 2025
01:14:52
You know it’s going to be a wild ride when Vicki Joy Anderson is in the house! This episode is a no-holds-barred deep dive into spiritual warfare, the challenges of isolation in fringe Christian circles, and the struggle of navigating biblical truth in a world full of traditions and misconceptions. We talk about deconstruction without destruction, the pitfalls of making secondary issues into deal-breakers, and the lost art of constructive correction among believers. Oh, and somehow we even managed to tie in rock tumblers, flat earth, and the importance of embracing suffering. Be prepared because this conversation is one for the books!
Timestamps: 00:53 Holy Spirit-led conversation 02:30 What’s happening in the body of Christ? 03:07 Increased spiritual warfare reports 04:15 Quantum entanglement in the spirit 05:23 The American mindset of independence 07:36 Church hurt and overcoming it 09:57 The rise of deconstruction in the church 12:13 Questioning traditions in Christianity 14:26 When do secondary issues become primary? 16:49 Confronting sin versus nitpicking traditions 19:00 Isolation in fringe Christian circles 21:06 Fringe beliefs and their impact on church unity 23:25 The danger of hyper-niche Christian groups 25:43 Iron sharpening iron versus echo chambers 28:05 Fringe topics putting marriages at risk 30:24 The danger of making doctrine a deal-breaker 32:38 Boundaries versus centered-set Christianity 34:49 Keeping the gospel the main thing 37:04 The need for humility in eschatology debates 39:14 The sinner’s prayer vs. true discipleship 41:34 Love as the ultimate marker of faith 43:52 The problem with sectarianism in Christianity 46:10 Biblical love vs. worldly love 48:29 True submission as modeled by Christ 50:42 What it means to truly love 52:59 How suffering refines us 55:21 Strength in submission 57:45 The real definition of meekness 01:00:00 Jesus’ example of true leadership 01:02:08 The role of fathers in spiritual protection 01:04:25 The problem with escapist eschatology 01:06:15 What’s next for Vicki Joy Anderson? 01:08:35 Nosferatu and occult symbolism 01:10:56 Demons & Parasites series 01:13:06 Upcoming conferences
E144 Houston, We Have a N∆ℤ!
17 Mar 2025
00:42:26
Get ready, folks, because we're diving deep into the shadowy world of Operation Paperclip—again! This time, it's Lindsy's turn to take the reins as we uncover the dark reality of N∆ℤ! war criminals and scientists who weren’t just brought over for their rocketry skills but were also deeply entangled in intelligence, chemical warfare, and Cold War espionage. From Klaus Barbie's twisted post-war career to the murky alliances forged under the guise of anti-communism, this episode exposes how far the U.S. was willing to go in the name of national security. The question remains: Did we really win WWII, or did the N∆ℤ! ideology just find a new home?
Timestamps: 02:45 The government’s shady dealings with N∆ℤ!s 04:30 Beyond rocket science—spies, war criminals, and MKUltra 06:15 Klaus Barbie: The Butcher of Lyon and CIA asset 10:18 Laundering N∆ℤ!s instead of money 12:39 The Gellin Organization—Cold War intelligence disaster 15:05 The myth of innocent America 17:27 More N∆ℤ! war criminals recruited by the U.S. 19:55 Wernher von Braun and war crimes 22:16 Nuremberg trials and ignored justice 24:40 The military-industrial complex roots 27:05 Nazi chemical warfare and its ties to MKUltra 29:21 U.S. hypocrisy in biological weapons 31:45 The ends justify the means—or do they? 34:10 Patriotism vs. statism—where do we draw the line? 36:35 The N∆ℤ!s didn't lose, they relocated 39:25 Social engineering and modern consequences
E143 Pillars of the Past: Mapping Ancient Mysteries
10 Mar 2025
00:50:18
In this episode, we journey deep into the mysteries of ancient Peru with Raul from the Pillars of the Past. Raul shares his passion for uncovering forgotten archaeological sites, fueled by a lifetime of personal connections to Peru and a knack for finding what others have overlooked. We explore the hidden history of the Andes, the challenges of mainstream archaeology, and tantalizing clues suggesting advanced civilizations far older than traditionally believed. From geoglyphs to ancient trade networks, this episode is packed with intrigue, speculation, and a dash of conspiracy mode.
Timestamps: 00:50 Introducing Raul from Pillars of the Past 01:30 Raul's personal connection to Peru 03:10 Discovering seashells at Machu Picchu as a child 04:45 Exploring ancient sites in Peru 05:35 Theories about the origins of ancient South American peoples 07:54 Impact of LIDAR and modern technology on archaeology 09:20 Discussing Graham Hancock's influence 10:13 Balancing speculation with evidence in archaeology 12:30 Challenges faced by archaeologists outside the mainstream 14:50 Mapping and discovering undocumented ancient sites 17:13 Issues of looting and site preservation 19:29 Revisiting and redating ancient Peruvian sites 21:56 Environmental challenges to preserving ancient sites 24:10 Tracing cultural connections through pottery and iconography 26:34 Oral traditions and lost writing systems of Peru 29:01 Mystery of the Khipus and lost knowledge 31:22 Plans for future expeditions and research in Peru 33:43 Discovering geoglyphs in Norte Chico 36:05 Encounter with Luis and discovering ancient sites 38:22 Finding the oldest stone monolithic calendar in the Americas 40:44 Challenges of archaeological orthodoxy and new discoveries 43:05 Effects of cataclysmic events on ancient coastal settlements 45:18 Speculating on the impact of new discoveries on mainstream theories 47:41 Future plans for more expeditions and research in Peru 49:30 Conclusion and encouragement to support Raul's work
E142 The Cold Wars Dirty Little Secret : Secret Files and Sinister Science
03 Mar 2025
00:43:40
We’re diving back into the rabbit hole with the second installment of our Operation Paperclip deep dive. This week, we’re peeling back the layers of history’s biggest "science fair gone wrong," exposing how Nazi scientists were recruited by the U.S. government for rocket science, biological warfare, and psychological research. Was it all for the greater good, or just a convenient way to whitewash some seriously shady pasts? We tackle the ethics, the cover-ups, and the creepy connections between power and the occult. Von Braun, Himmler, and a whole lot of questionable "scientific progress"—it's all here.
25:56 The Role of Intelligence and Occult Practices
28:33 The Propaganda of Operation Paperclip
30:21 The Ethics of Sacrifice for Progress
32:53 The Dark Legacy of Chemical Warfare
34:53 The Horrors of Biological Warfare
39:53 The Justification of Atrocities
40:48 The Power of Propaganda in Society
E140 Six Days, Six Billion Years, or Just One Really Long Monday
24 Feb 2025
01:05:23
Alright folks, buckle up, because this episode is diving headfirst into the deep and often heated debate about the age of the earth. Is it young? Is it old? Is there a middle ground? To help us navigate these theological and scientific waters, we brought back the brilliant Carey Griffel of Genesis Marks the Spot. We break down different perspectives—young earth, old earth, theistic evolution—and tackle how these views shape our understanding of Genesis, inspiration, and even God’s character. And of course, we sprinkle in some humor, some tinfoil-hat moments, and a whole lot of nerdy theological goodness. By the end, you might not have all the answers, but you’ll definitely have some new questions!
Timestamps: 01:19 Recap of previous discussion 02:02 Overview of different views on the age of the earth 02:32 How science and faith intersect 03:24 The impact of one's view of inspiration 04:22 Breaking down Young Earth Creationism 05:48 Problems with a strict Young Earth perspective 07:42 The literary structure of Genesis 1 09:07 The importance of Day Seven in creation 10:48 Concordism and attempts to reconcile science and the Bible 12:26 Ken Ham’s perspective and issues with dogmatic approaches 14:19 Understanding ancient vs. modern views of history 16:02 Genesis as polemic against ancient Near Eastern views 18:25 Why Day Seven is the focal point of creation 19:37 The theological importance of Genesis to the whole biblical narrative 21:26 Old Earth Creationism explained 23:10 The Bible as an ancient text with divine inspiration 26:14 The role of story and history in biblical interpretation 29:01 Defining Old Earth vs. Young Earth perspectives 31:28 Theistic evolution and its theological challenges 35:46 Science as a tool, not an ultimate authority 38:01 The problem of scientism in theological debates 41:04 Carey’s take on evolution and the age of the earth 42:52 When does Theistic Evolution go too far? 45:31 Apologetics: Should it be about defense or attack? 46:43 The supernatural element missing in some perspectives 48:56 Cosmic Temple theology and the significance of Genesis 1-2 52:39 Free will, chaos, and God's sovereignty 57:55 Future hope and exploration in the new creation 01:02:21 How Christians should handle conflicts between science and faith
E139 Threshold and Carry On
20 Feb 2025
01:28:51
Brandon, Lindsy, BT and Jennifer Parks delve into the multifaceted significance of thresholds in various cultural contexts, exploring their connections to covenants, hospitality, and spiritual protection. They discuss how thresholds have historically been associated with blood sacrifices and the establishment of covenants, drawing parallels to modern practices and beliefs. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these ancient concepts in today's world, emphasizing the depth and richness of the topic. In this conversation, the speakers explore various themes surrounding human sacrifice, cultural traditions, and the significance of thresholds in religious practices. They discuss the concept of 'living pillars' in ancient cultures, the deeper meanings of the Passover, and how these rituals connect to the idea of covenants with God. The conversation also delves into the symbolism of handbags in different cultures, linking them to fertility and the act of sacrifice.
Timestamps: 00:29 The mystery of ancient handbags 01:00 What is a threshold covenant? 02:15 Understanding lost cultural context 03:45 Thresholds in biblical history 05:30 The spiritual significance of crossing a threshold 07:20 Cryptids, vampires, and the power of invitation 09:00 The ancient art of hospitality and covenant 11:10 Sacrificial rites at thresholds 13:45 The importance of blood in covenant-making 16:30 Passover as a threshold crossover 18:50 How modern culture has lost the sacred home 21:40 The red carpet connection to threshold sacrifices 23:15 Foundations laid in blood—gruesome ancient rituals 26:00 The connection between thresholds, altars, and temples 28:30 Occult practices and spiritual gatekeeping 30:45 The Stone of Scone and its eerie significance 33:00 The Mayan sacrifices and the embroidered purse 35:10 Theories on ancient handbags—pollen, fertility, and power 38:00 The connection between palm trees, pollination, and sacred bags 40:20 Were the Watchers pollinating humanity with forbidden knowledge? 43:00 The Maori legend of sacred baskets of knowledge 45:00 Why do relief carvings show gods with handbags? 47:30 Final thoughts and what’s next for this research
E138 I Adjure You: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Battles
17 Feb 2025
01:07:08
Get ready for an episode that dives into the depths of ancient spiritual warfare! We welcome back Dr. Merrill Greene, a scholar whose groundbreaking research explores the protective rituals of the Qumran community. From apotropaic magic (yep, we learned a new word) to exorcisms, we discuss how ancient Jewish practices influenced early Christianity and what that means for us today. We also tackle the controversial world of deliverance ministries, spiritual disciplines, and even the role of music in spiritual warfare. Oh, and did we mention the title of Merrill’s dissertation is Sectually Transmitted Demons? Yeah, get ready for this one!
Timestamps: 01:13 Apotropaic rituals vs. exorcisms 02:17 What is apotropaism? 03:46 Groundbreaking research on the Dead Sea Scrolls 04:15 The contrast between apotropaism and exorcisms 06:00 Spiritual warfare and ancient Jewish traditions 06:41 The mezuzah as an apotropaic object 07:07 The Passover as an act of spiritual protection 08:30 Why the Reformation rejected spiritual protection rituals 09:32 The dangers of monetizing spiritual practices 11:33 How Merrill’s dissertation challenged modern deliverance practices 13:29 The armor of God as apotropaism 15:01 Apotropaism in First Nations traditions 17:32 The problem with rigid deliverance ministry rules 19:23 Psalm 91 as an exorcistic text 21:16 What is and isn’t superstition? 24:30 Jericho and the power of sound in warfare 27:08 How spiritual disciplines impact supernatural protection 30:33 The power of being part of a faith community 35:33 The danger of exaggerated deliverance theatrics 39:47 Joseph’s divination cup and biblical divination 41:08 Was the Essene community influential on early Christianity? 46:38 Did the Qumran community invoke spirits against each other? 48:53 Merrill’s next book: Altered States of Consciousness in the Bible 53:53 The stigma around altered states in Christianity 56:30 Merrill’s personal encounter with the supernatural 58:46 Why charismatics need academic theology 01:04:25 The church’s fear of spiritual experiences 01:06:39 Explaining Sectually Transmitted Demons 01:11:37 Merrill prayer
E137 Introduction to Operation Paperclip : Babel to Berlin
10 Feb 2025
00:55:35
Alright, y’all, we’re kicking off a wild ride into Operation Paperclip with this overview episode of what's to come, but you know we ain’t stopping at just the surface-level history. Nope. We’re peeling back the layers to see what was really going on when the U.S. scooped up a bunch of Nazi scientists and gave ‘em shiny new jobs. Was it just about rockets and national security, or was there something way darker at play?
Brandon, Lindsy and BT dive into the spiritual undercurrents behind the Nazi regime, the occult influences that fueled their twisted ideology, and whether Operation Paperclip was just a glorified tech transfer or a backdoor for an ancient rebellion to keep rolling. Y’all, we’re talking Watchers, Nephilim, Babel, secret societies, eugenics, and how all of this still shapes the world we live in today. You ready?, ‘cause this ain’t your high school history class.
Timestamps: 00:15:96 Why this topic? 00:34:94 Connections to Laurel Canyon & psy-ops 01:04:69 The Third Reich’s spiritual force 02:49:91 Did Nazism really end? 03:28:67 The ancient thread behind Paperclip 04:39:47 Watchers, Nephilim, and forbidden knowledge 06:28:01 Occult roots of Nazi ideology 08:32:38 Enochian magic and secret societies 10:36:34 The blurry line between science and the occult 12:56:97 How the Nazis took advantage of the German Youth Movement 16:19:93 Nazism as a spiritual virus 20:32:59 What did Operation Paperclip really bring to the U.S.? 24:45:37 The Watchers’ influence in modern times 30:45:02 Comparing Babel and Berlin 35:09:64 The Hollywood connection to Paperclip 40:30:91 Rockets, MK Ultra, and Montauk—intelligence and the occult 45:40:29 Eugenics and modern bioengineering 55:16:13 The real cost of Nazi science
E135 Hearing What Can't Be Heard
03 Feb 2025
01:24:09
Ever wondered if mental illnesses are more than just a chemical imbalance? In this mind-blowing episode, we sit down with retired psychotherapist Jerry Marzinsky, who spent over 40 years working with psychiatric patients—including the criminally insane. He challenges mainstream psychology’s narrative and unveils the shocking patterns he discovered in schizophrenic voices. Could these "hallucinations" actually be something more? We dive deep into the pharmaceutical industry's deception, the energetic nature of thoughts, the supernatural strength of psychotic individuals, and the unseen battle behind mental illness. Buckle up, because this episode is going to challenge everything you thought you knew about psychology! Don't miss our second episode --see below!
Due to sensitive content, our second episode featuring Jerry and the Mother of a Psychotic Killer can be found in our private RSS feed @ join.unrefinedpodcast.com. Episode 136- releases February 6
Timestamps: 00:10 They're like sharks that smell blood 00:28 Welcome to the Unrefined Podcast 02:44 Jerry Marzinsky background 05:09 First encounters with psychiatric hospitals 07:30 Observing schizophrenic patients' conversations 09:52 The psychology industry's missing research 12:12 Questioning the chemical imbalance theory 14:24 Different types of schizophrenia 16:50 Big Pharma’s influence on mental health 19:13 The DSM: A fabricated diagnostic tool 21:40 Drug companies shaping psychiatric treatment 24:07 The role of energy and frequency in mental illness 26:31 Spiritual implications of schizophrenia 28:52 Supernatural encounter with a schizophrenic 31:18 Entities feeding on negative energy 33:37 How voices manipulate schizophrenic patients 36:00 Negative intrusive thoughts affecting everyone 38:17 Biblical connection: Principalities and powers 40:39 Media and government manipulation 42:56 The spiritual nature of psychiatric disorders 45:15 Why demons hate the 23rd Psalm 47:39 The relationship between schizophrenia and religion 50:03 The psychiatric industry’s corruption 52:20 Schizophrenics rejecting their medications 54:42 The devastating effects of psychiatric drugs 57:08 The supernatural strength of psychotic individuals 59:28 Prison story: The man who resisted tasers and attack dogs 01:04:18 The influence of demonic entities 01:06:46 Dark energy and supernatural encounters 01:08:55 The financial incentives behind psychiatric diagnoses 01:11:19 Poem from a psychotic killer 01:16:07 Drug-induced schizophrenia and its dangers 01:18:31 Shadow people and their eerie messages 01:20:56 How entities recognize and feed on human energy 01:22:54 Closing thoughts and where to find Jerry’s work
E134 Fringe Benefits: Finding God in Unlikely Places
27 Jan 2025
01:17:13
Brandon and Lindsy welcome Christina from Sasquatch and Sourdough for a lively and thought-provoking conversation about her unique podcast, her faith journey, and her heart for ministering to others. From Bigfoot lore and cryptid mapping to sourdough bread? and spiritual transformation, Christina shares her testimony of how God softened her heart and redirected her life. With humor, humility, and a passion for creating a welcoming table for the fringe and the broken, this episode dives into the supernatural, community, and what it means to walk with the Holy Spirit.
00:01:00 Christina's journey into podcasting 00:02:30 The inspiration behind creating a cryptid map 00:03:00 Bigfoot clusters and paranormal mapping 00:05:00 Discussing the Patterson-Gimlin film 00:07:00 Christina's testimony of faith and spiritual encounters 00:09:30 Discovering the fringe community 00:12:00 Balancing supernatural experiences with faith 00:14:00 Christina's struggles with new age and witchcraft 00:16:00 The turning point: meeting Jesus 00:18:00 Religious spirit vs. authentic faith 00:20:30 Addressing criticism within the church 00:22:00 Celebrities' faith journey and online criticism 00:26:00 Navigating personal discernment in faith 00:30:00 Ministry on the fringe: inviting seekers to the table 00:34:00 Behind the name Sasquatch and Sourdough 00:38:00 The importance of creating a welcoming atmosphere 00:40:00 Walking in unity and focusing on the kingdom 00:44:00 Tackling supernatural questions with grace 00:48:00 Ministering to those with supernatural experiences 00:52:00 Avoiding fear-based faith and walking in freedom 01:03:00 Acting on faith and bringing heaven to earth 01:06:00 Christina’s testimony of a softened heart 01:10:00 The power of obedience and ministering to the broken 01:14:00 Closing prayer and reflection
E133 Hells, Yeah? Exploring Three Christian Views
22 Jan 2025
01:08:24
This episode tackles one of the most debated topics in Christian theology: 𝖍𝖊𝖑𝖑. Brandon, Lindsy, and BT host Steve Gregg, author of Why Hell? Three Christian Views Critically Examined, to explore the traditional, annihilationist, and universal reconciliation perspectives. Steve shares insights from decades of teaching and ministry, diving into biblical interpretations, historical theology, and the character of God. The discussion challenges conventional beliefs and encourages listeners to wrestle with these views in light of Scripture, grace, and God’s purpose for humanity. Get ready for a thought-provoking journey into the mysteries of eternity.
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Timestamps: 00:02:00 Steve shares his background and ministry journey 00:05:00 Evolution of Steve’s interest in the topic of hell 00:08:43 Overview of the three primary views of hell 00:12:07 Historical development of the traditional view 00:15:00 Conditional immortality explained 00:19:23 Universal reconciliation and God’s purpose 00:24:15 Addressing common misconceptions about hell 00:29:45 Discussing the character of God and justice 00:32:18 Perspectives from early church theology 00:35:12 The role of God’s love and grace in salvation 00:39:25 Free will and God’s redemptive plan 00:42:10 Challenges with traditional views of hell 00:45:00 Personal reflections on evangelism and discipleship 00:49:05 Annihilationism and scriptural support 00:54:00 Motivations for following Christ beyond fear 00:57:18 The kingdom of God as central to understanding 01:01:30 Navigating uncertainty in theology 01:04:12 Encouragement to explore, question, and pray 01:06:00 Steve Gregg prays for listeners 01:07:00 Closing thoughts and encouragement
E132 Living Under the Reign of the King
20 Jan 2025
01:31:41
In this engaging episode, Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters, and BT Wallace chat with pastor and author Anthony Delgado about his book, The Gospel is Bigger Than You Think. They delve into the deeper, broader meaning of the gospel, challenging oversimplified views and exploring themes of redemption, penal substitutionary atonement, and Christus Victor. Anthony shares his thoughts on the importance of seeing the gospel through a unified biblical lens, recounts personal experiences, and unpacks the role of storytelling in understanding salvation. They also discuss masculinity in faith and the church's role in embracing a holistic gospel that challenges and inspires.
Timestamps: 00:08 Division and unity in the gospel 00:28 Introduction to the episode 01:00 Topic overview: Simplicity of the gospel 02:00 Guest introduction: Anthony Delgado 03:00 Misconceptions about the gospel 05:11 The "ticket to heaven" mentality 07:35 Salvation: Past, present, and future 10:15 Personal experience with legalism 12:20 Balancing grace and obedience 14:34 Accessibility of the gospel 16:58 Approaching the gospel from different angles 19:19 Biblical theology vs. modern propositions 21:41 Gospel in counseling and real life 24:05 Addressing theological differences 26:26 Nominalism vs. active faith 28:44 Mega church challenges and pragmatism 31:06 Gospel response vs. gospel proclamation 33:28 Lordship salvation and kingdom living 35:52 Cultural and personal struggles with sin 38:07 Practical redemption and restitution 40:20 Penal substitutionary atonement explained 42:37 Christus Victor and spiritual warfare 45:02 Authority of Christ and nations' discipleship 47:27 The role of blood in atonement 52:18 Sufficient vs. superabundant sacrifice 54:44 Restitution in theology and life 59:16 The beauty of covenantal salvation 01:01:36 Challenges of modern theology 01:06:22 Responding to God with gratitude and action 01:10:56 Masculinity and spiritual warfare 01:18:16 Boldness in faith and martyrdom 01:22:57 Restoring biblical masculinity 01:30:05 Closing thoughts and next steps
E130 Out of This World
13 Jan 2025
00:54:14
Ever wondered about Project Blue Beam and its possible connection to drones, UAPs, and the alien deception narrative? Join Brandon, Lindsy, BT and Amy from Eyes on the Right as they unravel the tangled web of g😳v't conspiracy, supernatural elements, and advanced technology. Exploring the implications in the context of UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and the broader narrative of alien deception. The conversation navigates through various theories surrounding the project, the role of advanced technology, and the psychological operations at play in shaping public perception. The discussion also touches on the eschatological implications of these phenomena, questioning the nature of aliens and their potential connection to biblical prophecies. In this engaging conversation, the hosts explore various themes surrounding eschatology, the supernatural, and the implications of unidentified submersible objects (USOs). They discuss the influence of narratives like the Twilight Zone on perceptions of alien encounters, delve into the cyclical nature of biblical prophecy, and emphasize the importance of faith and awareness in navigating these complex topics. The conversation also touches on the significance of the supernatural in modern beliefs and the need for Christians to engage with these discussions.
From discussions about holograms and D@RP@'s secret advancements to interdimensional beings and eschatology, this episode dives deep into what could be happening behind the veil. With humor, discernment, and biblical insight, the conversation is both enlightening and thought-provoking. Don't miss out on this fascinating mix of mystery, theology, and fringe theories.
00:28:43 Diving into Project Blue Beam 02:49:87 Amy explains Project Blue Beam and holograms 05:15:78 DARPA's tech advancements 07:37:32 Theories on aliens and interdimensional beings 09:56:66 The importance of podcasters' discernment 12:09:29 The role of drones and public conditioning 14:27:09 Historical parallels like MK Ultra and Cointel Pro 16:43:63 Debate over national air defense and drones 19:09:19 Tim Poole's take on government experiments 21:20:03 Biblical and eschatological implications 23:44:63 Amy's research on UAPs and supernatural theories 26:06:56 Ambiguity and its role in psychological operations 28:21:80 Connection to signs, wonders, and end times 30:40:89 Cycles in scripture and Revelation's layers 33:00:70 Final confrontation and theological nuances 35:21:72 Insights into USOs and mysterious waters 37:44:42 Nephilim technology and aquatic human theories 40:01:63 Simeon, Anna, and modern discernment 42:13:46 USO sightings in Brazil and Catalina 44:33:76 Ancient maritime tales and biblical connections 46:54:09 CIA's Gateway Process and fabricated illusions 49:15:81 Sharing stories about abductions and skepticism 51:24:15 Intentionality and media manipulation
E129 Taco Bout Sacrifice: Serving God, Not the Flesh
06 Jan 2025
01:27:58
If you’ve ever thought about fasting but felt intimidated, this episode is for you.
Fasting can be hard, but is it worth it? This week, we dive deep into the spiritual and physical dynamics of fasting with special guest Vicki Joy, She shares personal breakthroughs, including her incredible healing journey, revelations about dry fasting, and insights into spiritual warfare. From discussing the mechanics of fasting to the power it unleashes, this episode is packed with testimonies, encouragement, and a challenge to pursue God with deeper hunger.
Vicki’s insights into starting small, finding a fasting partner, and understanding the physical and spiritual rewards of fasting are incredibly practical. So, as we kick off 2025, I want to encourage you: what’s one step you can take toward a fasted lifestyle? Trust me, it’s worth it.
[00:07] Within four hours of healing [00:27] Episode intro and guest introduction [01:30] Vicki Joy’s fasting experiences [02:38] Overcoming fasting struggles [05:02] Sacrifice and biblical fasting [07:17] Fasting stories and testimonies [09:39] Breaking addictions and finding freedom [11:47] Dry fasting revelations [14:08] Fasting for others’ healing [18:51]The Fasting Cure by Upton Sinclair [21:02] The cost of obedience in fasting [25:30] Healing through fasting: A testimony [30:04] The body’s healing design during fasting [36:47] Activity during fasting: What helps, what hinders [43:33] Misconceptions about fasting [50:19] Sharing fasting stories and testimonies [54:57] Jesus’ fasting and spiritual preparation [59:40] Living a fasted lifestyle [01:04:04] Overcoming the flesh’s desires [01:11:05] Experiencing thirst like Jesus [01:17:35] The generosity of fasting rewards [01:20:57] Vicki’s closing prayer and encouragement
E126 Renewal Through The Ages: Shocking Truths About God's Power
02 Dec 2024
01:00:53
Brandon and Lindsy are joined by revivalist and author JD King for an inspiring conversation about the history, power, and future of revival and healing in the Christian faith. JD shares incredible stories of miraculous healings, including a supernatural bone regrowth, and explores the dynamics of God’s work through history, from the tent revivals of the past to the intimate gatherings shaping the future. Together, they discuss the importance of humility, discernment, and the diverse ways God manifests His power through healing and revival. This episode is a stirring call to embrace the supernatural and seek deeper encounters with God.
[00:10] - The Mystery of Revival and Laughter [02:30] - Growing Up in the Shadow of Revival [05:15] - Witnessing a Miracle: Healing Through an Empty Eye Socket [10:00] - Faith in Action: Discovering Healing Modalities [14:40] - Corporate Revival vs. Personal Revival [19:55] - The Sound of Revival [23:15] - Revival Won’t Look the Same: New Ways God Moves [29:00] - Signs and Wonders: The Role of Miracles in Revival [35:00] - Historical Shifts That Hindered Supernatural Thinking [45:35] - The Next Revival Starts Around Tables
E124 Holy Synapse! The Neuroscience of Belief
25 Nov 2024
01:20:03
In this amazing conversation, we welcome Clint Byars, pastor of Forward Church, to explore the fascinating intersections of faith, neuroscience, and quantum physics. Clint shares his dramatic testimony of transformation, including a life-changing encounter with Jesus after a demonic experience. The conversation delves into how spiritual realities align with scientific insights, the power of biblical meditation, and the significance of mind renewal in spiritual growth. Clint also recounts supernatural encounters in Kenya, where miracles unfolded during his ministry. The episode encourages believers to embrace their unique perspectives and discover their role in God’s kingdom. Clint’s passion for connecting spiritual truths with practical applications shines as he explains how believers can resonate with the Kingdom of Heaven for transformation. Make sure to listen to the end!
Timestamps: 00:07 – Discussion on faith as an unlimited wave potential and its connection to reality
00:28 – Introduction guest Clint Byars
02:46 – Clint shares his testimony of transformation and coming to Christ
07:26 – Exploring psychedelics, the spirit realm, and biblical perspectives
16:53 – Addressing the balance of spiritual gifts without extremes
28:40 – Conversation on quantum mechanics, observation, and their relevance to faith
49:40 – Explanation of the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven
56:43 – Insights on biblical meditation and renewing the mind
01:08:20 – Clint recounts supernatural experiences in Kenya
01:17:37 – Encouragement for those who feel like outsiders in the church
01:18:50 – Closing prayer
E123 To See Or Not To See
18 Nov 2024
01:11:27
Ever wondered what it’s like to see beyond the physical realm? In this eye-opening episode we dive into the mysterious world of seers—those gifted with the ability to perceive the spiritual realm. Featuring Doug Overmyer, author of Seers See, the discussion unravels real-life accounts of spiritual encounters, offers biblical insights on the seer gift, and explores how families can navigate life with spiritually sensitive children. Packed with wisdom, humor, and practical advice, this episode sheds light on the unseen while equipping listeners to embrace the supernatural with discernment and faith.
Timestamps: 00:08 - Introduction to Seeing in the Spirit Realm 00:57 - Unveiling the Seer Gift 02:45 - Introducing Doug Overmyer 03:22 - When Your Child Sees Spirits 05:43 - Starting the Seers See Ministry 08:05 - Recognizing Spiritual Arrows 10:29 - The Impact of Michael Heiser's Teachings 12:55 - Spiritual Pheromones and Sin’s Attraction 15:13 - Seers vs. Prophets: Biblical Insights 17:40 - The Seer’s Role in Biblical History 20:08 - Dealing with Astral Projection Encounters 22:28 - Spiritual Sensitivity in Children 24:52 - Autism and Spiritual Sensitivity 27:13 - Training Up Spiritually Gifted Children 29:31 - Toddler Seers and Artistic Vision 31:58 - Using the Seer Gift for God’s Kingdom 34:05 - Restoring Community Through Spiritual Gifts 36:27 - Challenging Cessationist Views 38:53 - Empaths and Spiritual Sensitivity 41:12 - Seers in Cessationist Churches 43:31 - Personal Faith and Spiritual Battles 47:01 - Ministering to the Spiritually Oppressed 49:09 - Seers and Accountability in Leadership 51:33 - The Need for a School of Prophets 53:48 - The Refining Process: God’s Perspective 56:16 - The Role of Autistic Seers 58:39 - Spiritual Attacks and Media Consumption 01:03:22 - A Golden Encounter: Signs and Wonders 01:05:44 - The Heart of Spiritual Ministry
E122 Quantum Faith: How to Align Your Beliefs with God’s Ultimate Purpose
11 Nov 2024
01:18:23
In this episode of Unrefined Podcast, Brandon, Lindsy, and BT sit down with Dr. Robin Braun, author of Living Like a Son and a pioneer in holistic healing and quantum faith. Together, they explore the transformative power of shifting from a slave mentality to a son mentality, healing the father wound, and breaking free from religious programming. Dr. Braun shares practical insights on how our subconscious beliefs shape our spiritual reality and offers tools to align our identity as children of God. The conversation also dives into the intersection of quantum physics and faith, unpacking topics like the law of sowing and reaping, spiritual warfare misconceptions, and the critical role of forgiveness. Whether you’re looking to deepen your connection with God or overcome hidden blocks in your spiritual journey, this episode is packed with wisdom and practical takeaways.
The team dives deep into the eerie mysteries surrounding Death Valley. From the restless spirit of rock star Gram Parsons haunting Joshua Tree to the strange disappearance of a German family in the unforgiving desert, each story reveals layers of intrigue and speculation. Adding to the mystery is the elusive Yucca Man, a Bigfoot-like creature reportedly seen by military personnel near secretive bases. Together, Brandon, BT, and Lindsy connect these strange tales, exploring the idea that the Mojave Desert is a hotbed for paranormal activity, hidden energies, and possibly even dimensional portals. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode will make you question what really lies within the vast, desolate landscape of Death Valley.
Timestamps: 00:11 - Introduction to Death Valley mysteries 00:28 - Hosts discuss the eerie allure of the Mojave Desert 00:58 - Introducing the Death Valley Germans, Gram Parsons, and Yucca Man 03:25 - Story of Gram Parsons and his connection to Joshua Tree 05:52 - Strange events surrounding Parsons’ death and desert cremation 08:12 - Hauntings at Joshua Tree Inn’s Room 8 10:33 - Discussion of hauntings and paranormal sightings in Joshua Tree 12:53 - Theories on paranormal recordings and “stacked time” 15:19 - Introducing the mystery of the Death Valley Germans 17:42 - Background of the missing German family 20:09 - Theories on why the family vanished in the desert 22:22 - Exploring connections to nearby military bases 24:47 - Speculations about cults, cartels, and missing remains 26:49 - Creepy theories surrounding missing persons in Death Valley 29:08 - Introduction to Yucca Man and strange desert creatures 31:25 - Eyewitness accounts of giant, hairy creatures with glowing eyes 33:52 - Indigenous legends of mysterious beings in the Mojave 36:10 - Connections between Bigfoot sightings and Edwards Air Force Base 38:25 - “Old Blue Eyes” and military personnel encounters with Yucca Man 40:51 - Theories about Bigfoot and portals in the Mojave Desert 43:15 - Speculations on Bigfoot as supernatural or ancient beings 45:39 - Biblical worldview on paranormal desert entities 48:06 - Exploring Death Valley as a paranormal “hotspot” 50:32 - Outro and ways for listeners to connect with the Unrefined Podcast