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In this milestone 250th episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui pull back the curtain on one of the biggest transitions of their marriage and business journey: leaving California and relocating across the country to the Lake Norman area outside of Charlotte, North Carolina. As they record from Dallas during their cross-country road trip, they share the emotions, uncertainty, and real-time stress of making a life-changing move while still trying to protect their marriage, peace, and vision.

This episode dives into the reality of "moving without a plan"—not because they lacked vision, but because many details were still unfolding in real time. Robert and Kay Lee discuss how a shared long-term vision helped them navigate one of life's greatest stressors without turning against each other. They unpack the importance of testing major decisions over time, communicating honestly during stressful moments, creating backup plans, and refusing to let uncertainty create division in their marriage.

For married entrepreneurs, this conversation is a powerful reminder that growth often requires discomfort. Whether you're making a major move, navigating business uncertainty, or stepping into a new season of life, success isn't about having every detail perfectly figured out. It's about staying united, keeping your peace, and moving forward together even when the path ahead isn't fully clear.

• Celebrating the milestone of 250 podcast episodes while entering a major life transition

• Why having a shared vision is critical during stressful seasons of marriage and business

• How testing major life decisions over time can strengthen confidence and unity

• The emotional and practical realities of uprooting your life and moving across the country

• How stress can either divide a couple or make them stronger together

• Why moving forward imperfectly is often better than waiting for the "perfect plan"

• The importance of protecting your peace and supporting your spouse during uncertainty

Financial freedom is often painted as the ultimate goal for entrepreneurs—but what happens when you actually reach it? In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui sit down with Mike and Carolyn Neubauer to unpack the real story behind building wealth together as a married couple. From humble beginnings—him as a firefighter and her as a stay-at-home mom—they share how they transitioned from trading time for money to creating a life centered on freedom, flexibility, and family. But their journey wasn't smooth. Their first real estate investment nearly strained both their marriage and sanity, forcing them to confront misaligned expectations, communication gaps, and the true cost of "success."

What makes this conversation powerful is how quickly it moves beyond tactics and into what actually matters. The Neubauers reveal that financial freedom isn't about hitting a number—it's about aligning your life with your values. Through trial and error, they learned how to define a shared vision, stay in their respective strengths, and build systems that supported both their business and their marriage. Instead of chasing scale at all costs, they chose intentional growth, prioritizing time, peace, and relationships over maximum profit.

For married entrepreneurs, this episode is both a wake-up call and a roadmap. You'll hear why chasing more money can quietly sabotage your home life, how to avoid common investment mistakes, and why true freedom is measured in choices—not dollars. If you've ever felt torn between growing your business and being present at home, this conversation will help you rethink what winning actually looks like.

Website/podcast: https://ourfamilyinvests.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/ourfamilyinvests/

Key Takeaways

• Financial freedom isn't about money—it's about control of your time True wealth is the ability to choose how, when, and with whom you spend your life.

• Your first investment will test more than your finances—it will test your marriage Miscommunication, stress, and unclear roles can quickly create tension if you're not aligned.

• Vision must be shared and specific A vague desire for "freedom" isn't enough—clear goals, timelines, and expectations are what unify couples.

• Play to your strengths as a couple One leads execution, the other strengthens relationships and long-term thinking—both are critical.

• Peace is often more valuable than profit Hiring help (even at a cost) can buy back time, reduce stress, and improve your relationship.

• Don't just invest in deals—invest in people The operator behind the opportunity matters more than the numbers on paper.

• You don't need to scale fast to win Intentional growth that aligns with your values leads to a more sustainable and fulfilling life.

• Freedom is living life on your terms today—not someday Waiting until "later" to enjoy your family defeats the purpose of building wealth in the first place.

Mike and Caroline Neubauer

Mike and Caroline Neubauer went from broke, exhausted, and trading time for just enough to get by… to financially free, working on only things that light them up, and raising their son while investing across multiple markets. They didn't do it with a trust fund or a tech exit. Mike was a full-time firefighter on Maui. Caroline was a stay-at-home mom.

Their first move into real estate investing was a leap of faith, a spreadsheet, and a whole lot of YouTube. But once they went all in, that one deal kicked off a five-year sprint to financial freedom. Today, their portfolio spans short-term, mid-term, and long-term rentals, private lending, and passive investments across multiple states. They built a life that protects their peace, gives them time with their son, and still pays them while they travel.

Together, they host The Our Family Invests Podcast, where they interview entrepreneurial couples who are building wealth without losing their minds or their marriages. They talk about strategy, alignment, and how to grow a business that actually serves your life.

They're not trying to be the biggest name in real estate. They're focused on living intentionally, building a life that aligns with their personal compass while raising their son Nico with presence.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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In this candid and timely conversation, Robert and Kay Lee sit down with Tony and Alisa DiLorenzo, co-hosts of the top-ranked One Extraordinary Marriage Show, to tackle a topic many couples think about—but few openly discuss: sex, intimacy, and connection in marriage. Drawing from nearly 30 years of marriage and over a decade of coaching couples worldwide, Tony and Alisa reframe intimacy as far more than a physical act. At its core, intimacy is about closeness, safety, and emotional connection—and when those are missing, sex often becomes the symptom, not the root issue.

The conversation explores the "chicken and egg" tension many couples face: one spouse needs emotional intimacy before sex, while the other needs sex to feel emotionally connected. Rather than choosing sides, Tony and Alisa explain why both emotional and sexual intimacy must be strengthened together, a concept they outline in their best-selling book The Six Pillars of Intimacy. For entrepreneurial couples—especially those who work together—this dynamic can be further complicated by stress, blurred boundaries, exhaustion, and over-familiarity. The result? Desire fades, communication stalls, and intimacy becomes an afterthought.

Throughout the episode, listeners receive practical, judgment-free strategies to rebuild connection: how to talk about sex without pressure or shame, why those conversations should not happen in the bedroom, and how tools like shared calendars, intentional planning, and even a "vision" for sexual intimacy can transform a marriage. From breaking taboos and starting small conversations to reigniting anticipation and creativity, this episode offers married entrepreneurs a refreshing, hopeful path toward deeper connection—without adding more strain to already full lives.

Website: https://oneextraordinarymarriage.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oneextraordinarymarriage

[FREE] 6 Pillars Of Intimacy: https://6pillarsofintimacy.com

Intimacy Mastery: http://intimacymastery.com/

• Intimacy ≠ sex alone: True intimacy is closeness and connection; sex thrives when emotional safety is present.

• It's not either/or: Emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy reinforce each other—and both must be nurtured.

• Normalize the conversation: Talking about sex is emotional intimacy and removes unnecessary tension and assumptions.

• Change the environment: Don't discuss sex in the bedroom—protect it as a sacred, pressure-free space.

• Start small: Short, low-pressure conversations build confidence and momentum over time.

• Entrepreneurial marriages need structure: Clear roles, shared calendars, and intentional boundaries reduce friction that kills desire.

• Anticipation matters: Surprise, creativity, and intentional planning reignite excitement—just like in business.

• Enhancement, not replacement: Tools and toys can support connection when used together, intentionally, and without shame.

• Vision creates momentum: Couples who plan and prioritize intimacy are far more likely to experience growth, not drift.

Bio

As co-hosts of the top marriage podcast in Apple Podcasts, the ONE Extraordinary Marriage Show, Tony and Alisa DiLorenzo speak to a worldwide audience about sex, love & commitment, and challenge every listener to make their relationship a priority. Their best-selling book, The 6 Pillars of Intimacy®, has transformed countless marriages around the world. This framework is simple, practical, and powerful. You'll be inspired to look at your marriage through a new lens and be encouraged by its commonsense approach.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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The Fastest Way to Increase Profit (Without More Sales)

In this episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui tackle one of the most misunderstood—and most powerful—levers in business: profitability. Many business owners assume the only way to improve the bottom line is to sell more, but this conversation flips that belief on its head. Drawing from real client stories, they reveal how growing revenue can actually shrink profits when pricing and expenses aren't managed intentionally.

The heart of the episode centers on pricing—specifically why most entrepreneurs underprice their products and services. Robert walks through the most common pricing mistakes (cost-plus pricing, competitor-based pricing, and penetration pricing) and explains why none of them account for true value. Using everyday examples and a powerful auction story, they unpack the psychology of pricing and show how price communicates value, trust, and credibility to your customers.

Finally, they connect profitability to what matters most at home. When margins are thin, stress goes up, hours increase, and marriage pays the price. Healthy profit margins create margin in life—allowing business owners to reinvest, reclaim time, and reduce pressure on the family. The episode ends with a simple, practical assignment to calculate whether your business is hitting the 15% net profit benchmark—and how small pricing adjustments can create immediate relief.

• More sales don't guarantee more profit
  Revenue can increase while profit margins shrink if pricing and expenses aren't managed intentionally.

• Your price sends a psychological signal
  Pricing communicates value and credibility. Underpricing often creates skepticism—not loyalty.

• The most common pricing strategies are flawed
  Cost-plus, competitor-based, and penetration pricing ignore the true value you deliver.

• 15% net profit is the minimum target
  After paying yourself and all expenses, your business should retain at least 15% of revenue as net profit.

• Raising prices is the fastest way to grow profit
  Price increases go straight to the bottom line without adding marketing costs, staff, or hours.
  Underpricing creates stress at home
  Thin margins force longer hours and constant hustle—stealing time, energy, and peace from your marriage.

• Small price increases can have massive impact
  A 5–10% average price increase can be enough to restore healthy margins.

Links

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Freedom Coaching - https://www.settledco.com/coaching

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What happens when two strong leaders try to work side-by-side—inside marriage and business? In this candid and refreshingly honest conversation, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui sit down with Jason and Elizabeth Settle, co-founders of Settled Co., to unpack what it really takes for married couples to collaborate without competing. From early power struggles and identity clashes to learning how to celebrate each other's strengths, this episode speaks directly to high-achieving couples who want to win together, not against each other.

Jason and Elizabeth share their personal journey of moving from competition to partnership, highlighting how identity, self-esteem, and misplaced priorities can quietly sabotage both marriage and work. They explore why so many driven couples wrestle with power struggles, how healing individual identity creates a healthier "we," and why trying to change your spouse rarely works. Their insights offer hope to couples who have tried—and failed—to work together before.

The conversation also dives into a topic many entrepreneurs neglect: fun. From separating business meetings from date nights to understanding how joy, laughter, and emotional safety directly impact performance, creativity, and connection, this episode delivers practical wisdom you can apply immediately. If you're building a business while protecting your marriage, this episode will challenge how you think about identity, productivity, and the role of joy in thriving—together.

• Power struggles are often identity struggles. Healthy collaboration starts when each spouse is secure in who they are—strong "me's" create a strong "we."

• Competition kills partnership. Learning to celebrate each other's strengths instead of resenting them transforms both marriage and work.

• Your spouse is not your project. Real growth begins when you stop trying to change your partner and focus on personal responsibility and self-control.

• Work can't replace relationship. When affirmation, validation, or joy come solely from work, marriage inevitably suffers.

• Fun is not optional—it's strategic. Laughter, joy, and shared experiences build emotional connection, reduce pressure, and improve performance.

• Separate business from romance. Dedicated business meetings and protected date nights help couples stay connected without blurring boundaries.

• Joy fuels resilience. In seasons of uncertainty or financial pressure, intentionally choosing fun helps couples stay emotionally connected and grounded.

• Love rejoices in truth. Focusing on what's right about your spouse—not keeping score—puts wind in your sails as a couple.

Bio

Jason Settle

Jason is a highly respected educator, counselor, and consultant, recognized for his profound influence and dedication to empowering others. With a rich and diverse background in education and counseling, Jason delivers actionable guidance and strategic insights that enable individuals and organizations to achieve their full potential.

A dynamic leader and compelling communicator, Jason believes that true success begins with a person's self-perception. His approach, shaped by his studies in Dr. John Townsend's Organizational Leadership Master's program at Concordia University, emphasizes personal growth, self-awareness, and transformative leadership. Jason fosters an environment of innovation and continuous improvement, inspiring those he works with to push beyond their limits and discover new possibilities.

As a leader and Biblical counselor, Jason excels in both group and individual settings, offering powerful coaching that promotes freedom and personal development. His expertise enables clients to make meaningful changes in their daily lives and positively influence those around them.

Whether in the classroom, one-on-one counseling, or consulting roles, Jason remains committed to making a lasting impact. His unwavering support, paired with his wealth of experience, ensures that those he serves are equipped with the tools and confidence needed to thrive.

Elizabeth Settle

Elizabeth Settle is a dynamic speaker, dedicated community builder, pastor, and freedom counselor with a passion for helping individuals and communities embrace their true identity and live in freedom. With a heart for guiding others to hear God's voice and experience personal transformation, she blends practical wisdom with deep spiritual insight.

As a pastor, she nurtures vibrant, faith-filled communities, and as a freedom counselor, she walks alongside those seeking healing and wholeness. As a multilingual educator and writer,

 Elizabeth has developed content in both English and Spanish, reaching wide audiences and contributing to organizations like Gateway Publishing, Docent Research Group, and Prestonwood Curriculums. Whether writing resources, speaking to large audiences, or working one-on-one, Elizabeth is committed to empowering others to thrive in their purpose and live authentically.

She holds a Master's Degree in Educational Administration from Texas State University and is recognized for her strategic thinking, emotional intelligence, and collaborative leadership.

Elizabeth is currently serving as a Pastor of Christian Education and Discipleship at Gateway Church.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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In this powerful episode, Robert and Kay Lee sit down with 17-year-old entrepreneur and leukemia survivor Keira Chang, founder of Heroko Shop and author of The Second Race: The Turtle and the Puppy, A Story About Money. Diagnosed with leukemia the week before her 13th birthday, Keira spent years in treatment and isolation—but emerged with a renewed appreciation for life, community, and the importance of using your gifts to help others. Her story is raw, inspiring, and a needed reset for entrepreneurs who get caught up in the grind.

Keira shares how Heroko Shop was born at the end of her treatment as a way to give back to the pediatric cancer community that supported her. Designed for Gen Z, by Gen Z, her brand sells fun accessories while raising awareness and support for kids battling cancer. With guidance from mentors (including Robert and Kay Lee) through a local youth entrepreneur program, she transformed a simple idea into a profitable, impact-driven business—learning how to test, adapt, and lead a team along the way.

She also unpacks the heart behind her children's book on saving and money, and why financial literacy needs to start younger—especially in a world of rising debt and easy spending. For married entrepreneurs, Keira's perspective is a refreshing reminder: your business is a tool, not just for income, but for impact; your support system matters; and your influence on the next generation—whether through parenting, mentoring, or leading by example—can shape how they view hardship, money, generosity, and purpose.

Links

Store: https://herokoshop.com/

Book: The Second Race: The turtle and the puppy: A story about money https://keirachanggogold.wixsite.com/book 

IG: @keiragsbook

IG: @herokoshop 

Key Takeaways

• How a life-threatening diagnosis at 12 reshaped Keira's gratitude, priorities, and view of what truly matters.

• The origin of Heroko Shop and how a teen founder built a brand with a cause: Gen Z designs that support kids with cancer.

• Why support systems—family, friends, community, medical staff—are crucial, and how that parallels the importance of strong marriage and partnership in entrepreneurship.

• The inspiration behind The Second Race: The Turtle and the Puppy and why teaching kids about saving and stewardship early is so important.

• Practical lessons married entrepreneurs can draw from Keira's story: simplifying what you stress about, aligning your business with impact, and remembering that people always matter more than pressure and profit.

• A vision for legacy: how mentoring and modeling healthy leadership today can empower the next generation of values-driven entrepreneurs.

Biography:

Keira Chang is a 17-year-old high school student, cancer survivor, entrepreneur, and author. After being diagnosed with leukemia at 13, she was inspired to give back and founded Heroko Shop, a clothing and accessories brand that donates all profits to childhood cancer organizations. This year, she became a published author with her children's book on financial literacy, which she used to launch a campaign donating around 250 books to schools, libraries, hospitals, and community centers, hosting reading sessions and workshops to teach kids about saving. She also helped found her school's chapter of Therapicasso, a nonprofit that uses art to help kids process emotions and manage mental health. 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

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As the year winds down (or whenever you're listening), Robert and Kay Lee invite married entrepreneurs to pause and audit what's working—and what's quietly piling onto your calendar "just because." The danger isn't always failure… it's drift. When you never stop to evaluate, your schedule fills up, your energy gets spent on habits instead of priorities, and both marriage and business can slowly erode under nonstop momentum.

They walk through a powerful set of reflection questions designed to help you celebrate progress (not just critique problems), gain clarity on your goals, and make smarter decisions with your time. Kay Lee shares personal growth around emotional triggers and learning not to take everything personally—especially in family relationships. Robert opens up about loosening perfectionism, taking more chances, and using "small steps" to reduce overwhelm—like their decision to test a possible move to Lake Norman one step at a time instead of forcing a massive all-or-nothing decision.

The episode also highlights practical business lessons like testing demand safely (hello, waitlists) and learning to ask for what you want—whether it's closing a deal, requesting introductions, or opening doors through relationships. They wrap with meaningful experiences from the past 90 days: building local community through fun gatherings for married business owners, and serving local businesses impacted by the devastating Southern California fires—offering clarity, encouragement, and simple marketing direction when life feels foggy.

• If you don't audit your life, your calendar will audit you. Reflection helps you remove what's no longer serving you—before "busy" becomes your default.

• Celebrate small wins, not just big milestones. Most entrepreneurs can spot failures instantly—this episode helps you build balance and sanity by naming what's working.

• Small steps reduce big fear. Especially for perfectionists, progress comes easier when you create a "safe" next step instead of trying to solve everything at once.

• Test demand before you invest. A waitlist is a simple way to validate interest before you commit time, money, or a big launch.

• Ask for what you want. Whether in business, relationships, or networking—doors open faster when you stop hoping and start asking.

• Community is a strategy, not a luxury. Fun, face-to-face connection isn't optional for thriving—it's fuel for married entrepreneurs.

• Encouragement is leadership. When people are overwhelmed or recovering from loss, clarity + reassurance can be the most meaningful "next step."

1. How have I grown as a person over the past three years?

2. What are the biggest things that I've learned in the past 12 months?

3. What are 10 important things I've accomplished in the past 12 months?

4. What meaningful experiences have I had in the past 90 days?

5. How am I clearer on my goals and vision than I was 90 days ago?

6. In what ways is my life different and better than 30 days ago?

7. What important progress have I made in the past seven days?

8. What progress have I made in the past 24 hours?

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

What happens when a career shake-up, a calling to entrepreneurship, and a surprise pregnancy all collide at once? In this episode, Robert sits down with Robbie and Nicole Harper—co-founders of Blue Ridge PR—to talk about what it really looks like to build a business while protecting your marriage and family. Robbie shares how leaving an unhealthy work situation became the catalyst for launching their PR firm, while Nicole reflects on the early season of keeping the "home fires burning" so the business could get off the ground.

You'll hear how they navigated financial uncertainty, parenting stress, and the emotional ups and downs that come with entrepreneurship—especially when one spouse processes internally and the other needs to talk it out. Their secret? Honest communication, giving each other space to process, and learning how to "carry the baton" when the other spouse is spiraling. They even share practical tools they use in real life (including one surprising app that helps them process emotions and stay connected).

The Harpers also unpack what it takes to protect your relationship long-term—especially as kids grow up and empty nest seasons approach. From beach walks and "broke date nights" to ice cream runs and dog walks, they remind us that connection doesn't require a big budget—just intentionality. If you're a married entrepreneur trying to build something meaningful without losing each other in the process, this conversation will feel like a deep breath and a roadmap.

• Don't let life stack up without a pause. Regularly audit what's working and what's adding unnecessary stress.

• Start-up seasons are intense—support is everything. A spouse being genuinely "on board" can be the difference between breaking and building.

• Communication is the real safety net. When money is tight or clients are slow to pay, staying connected keeps fear from taking over.

• Only one meltdown at a time is a win. Learn how to stabilize each other when one spouse is spiraling.

• Give each other space to process differently. Some need silence and a walk; others need to talk it out to find clarity.

• Connection doesn't need to be fancy. Ice cream runs, dog walks, beach subs—small moments can be the most impactful.

• Protect the marriage before the empty nest arrives. Keep investing now so you don't wake up later wondering, "Who are you?"

• Intertwined lives require extra intentionality. When work, church, and family overlap, boundaries and check-ins matter even more.

Bio:

Robbie Harper, MBA, and Nicole Harper are the co-founders of Blue Bridge PR, a public relations firm focused on building reputation for faith-driven and values-based organizations. Robbie serves on the boards of both the U.S. Christian Chamber of Commerce and the Central Florida Christian Chamber of Commerce. Nicole is also the Children's Minister at Stetson Baptist Church. They live in DeLand, Florida, with their three children. Connect with them at https://www.bluebridgepr.com. 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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As married entrepreneurs, it's easy to fall into traps that seem harmless but quietly eat away at your profits, your time, and even your marriage. In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee uncover five hidden growth traps that keep business owners stuck working harder instead of smarter. These aren't your typical sales or marketing issues—they're deeper mindset and leadership challenges that directly impact your ability to scale while still having time and energy for your spouse and family.

From chasing sales without focusing on profit margins, to micromanaging instead of delegating, to ignoring outside counsel (including your spouse's wisdom!), these traps are more common than you might think. You'll also hear how holding onto "sacred cows" or letting the words "I can't" dominate your thinking can prevent you from making necessary changes that create both freedom and financial stability. With practical stories and client examples, Robert and Kay Lee show how to shift your mindset and avoid sabotaging your own growth.

This episode is about more than building a bigger business—it's about building a healthier business and marriage at the same time. When you stop focusing on the wrong things and start creating systems, margins, and open communication, you'll reclaim time, reduce stress, and grow profitably in tandem.

Key Takeaways:

• Sales don't guarantee profits—healthy margins do.

• Micromanaging drains your energy and limits your team's potential.

• Every entrepreneur needs trusted outside counsel (yes, even your spouse).

• Holding onto "sacred cows" keeps you stuck in outdated practices.

• Saying "I can't" closes the door on innovation and healthy growth.

When big ideas stall, it's rarely because the idea is bad—it's because people get stuck. In this week's conversation, we welcome strategist and author Susan Schramm (chair of Nehemiah Project; founder of Go To Market Impact) to unpack how married entrepreneurs can de-risk decisions at work and at home—without killing momentum or connection.

Susan introduces her De-Risk System for Impact, a simple, people-first way to move initiatives forward: clarify why and why now, name who must take action, surface assumptions, and explore both upside and downside risk—including the risk of inaction. She also shares a practical rhythm couples can use to align different risk profiles (hello, "shoot first" spouse vs. "think it through" spouse), reduce anxiety, and keep communication open.

From cross-country moves and career shifts to launching products and leading teams, you'll hear scripts, questions, and exercises you can use tonight—like pre-mortems, writing decisions down, and even trying on "Disney roles" (visionary, operator, financier) together—so you protect your marriage, accelerate results, and avoid costly detours.

Get the book - Fast Track Your Big Idea: Navigate risk, move people to action, and avoid your strategy going off course fasttrackyourbigidea.com or 

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanbaileyschramm/ 

• Risk has two dimensions: awareness of risk and willingness to engage. Know where each spouse sits.

• Always ask "Why now?" Great ideas can be right—but at the wrong time.

• Map four quadrants: upside of acting, downside of acting, upside of not acting, downside (risk) of not acting. Inaction carries its own costs.

• Make assumptions visible. Write down what you're presuming about time, travel, money, family, and capacity. Revisit when reality changes.

• Use pre-mortems. Before launching, imagine what could go wrong (or right too fast) and plan responses—without making it personal.

• Try role-switching. Together evaluate ideas as the visionary (experience), operator (execution), and financier (resources).

• Document decisions. Capture reasoning so you can learn, adapt, and avoid blame when conditions shift.

• Practice on small stuff. Use the system for everyday choices (schedules, purchases, projects) so you're ready for high-stakes moves.

Bio

Susan Schramm is on a mission to help people turn big ideas into reality. Whether in a boardroom or a coffee shop, Susan finds joy in equipping and encouraging people to overcome obstacles and move forward. 

After decades of working with Fortune 500 companies and nonprofits launching new products and programs, new partnerships, and new companies, Susan founded her firm, Go to Market Impact. She aims to help leaders of organizations of all sizes achieve results faster when driving high-stakes strategies. Susan developed the De-RiskSystemforImpact® to encourage leaders to openly discuss risk and plan for the people side of strategy, which is often ignored. She brings energy, experience, and practical insights that inspire a fresh perspective. 

Susan revels in exploring the world around her and has proudly conquered one of her bucket list goals: visiting all 50 states in the US. She is fueled by her faith, her family, and a bottomless cup of coffee. 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/ 

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Cracker Barrel's attempted rebrand lit up the internet—but the logo was only the tip of the iceberg. In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee unpack what really happened: rapid, sweeping changes to brand visuals, menu staples, and in-store experience that left loyal customers feeling ignored. Robert draws on his Coca-Cola days to connect the dots to "New Coke" and other big-brand missteps.

The lesson for married entrepreneurs? Expansion is great—if you bring your core with you. We talk about how to modernize without losing the soul of your brand, why you must weight research toward your existing buyers, and how "nostalgia" (surprise!) still wins with younger audiences. Translation: keep what people love, then pilot the new.

You'll also hear practical ways to pressure-test change as a couple-led team—from founder interviews and customer listening to limited market tests—so you protect profits, avoid avoidable conflict at home, and buy back time you'd otherwise spend doing cleanup.

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• Protect the core: modernize, don't amputate.

• Weight research to loyal customers before chasing new segments.

• Give choices (keep the classics while piloting new offers).

• Test small (limited locations/segments) before rolling out big.

• Honor the brand story—talk to founders/OG customers early.

• Nostalgia sells (even with Gen Z); don't discard it.

• Measure reality, not vibes: let sales, retention, and sentiment data lead.

• As spouses in business, align on "non-negotiables" first to prevent conflict later.

• Expand the market by adding rings around the core, not replacing it.

• Listen continuously—surveys, DMs, and event feedback are your free focus groups.

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Eight-figure founder and wealth strategist Marissa Nehlsen returns to share how married entrepreneurs can build real wealth and protect what matters most at home. From her North Dakota roots to stewarding multiple Costa Rica retreat properties, Marissa unpacks the mindset shifts that moved her from hustle to harmony—where profit funds purpose, family, and freedom. She reveals why "keeping moving" doesn't mean doing more; it means making better, braver decisions with crystal-clear purpose.

We dive into Marissa's practical frameworks: the What if / What for / What's next lens for vision, her five-question execution filter (Why, What, Who, How, When), and the habit of "giving every dollar a job." She challenges us to know our numbers, clean out calendar and business clutter, and decide what we're truly trading our lives for. You'll also hear simple rhythms she and her family practice—daily walks, weekly dinners, faith time—that keep connection strong while companies scale.

Finally, Marissa breaks down her Freedom Plan—three anchors every owner needs to plot their way to time and money freedom: your Freedom Number, Freedom Date, and Freedom Sources. If you're grinding 65-hour weeks to "provide," this episode will help you re-align goals with your spouse, multiply what matters, and design a rich life emotionally, relationally, spiritually, physically, and financially. Want to experience this work in real time? Join our retreat waitlist to be first in line when we announce dates.

Key Takeaways

• Vision before velocity: Ask What if? What for? What's next? so your growth serves your marriage, not steals from it.

• Five-question filter for everything: Why, What, Who, How, When—use it to build self-managing companies and a calmer home.

• Declutter to scale: The right things can't enter a space the wrong things occupy—edit offers, meetings, and even great-but-misaligned commitments.

• Know your numbers: Profit follows clarity. Track what actually moves the needle and assign every dollar a job.

• Build your Freedom Plan: Define your Freedom Number (what you need), Freedom Date (by when), and Freedom Sources (how it's funded).

• Trade-offs on purpose: Decide what you're willing to trade your life for—and confirm what your spouse actually wants (hint: it's often you, not stuff).

• Rituals that protect connection: Simple daily walks and weekly family meals create the margin for honest conversations and faster conflict resolution.

• Choose your circle wisely: You become like the five people closest to you—prioritize couples who are growing in both marriage and business.

• Read for ROI: Open a book's table of contents and jump to the chapter that solves today's problem—then apply it.

Marissa Nehlsen is the founder and CEO of an eight-figure, debt- free financial firm, managing over $1 billion in assets across forty- six states.

Marissa's journey began on a North Dakota farm where she learned the value of hard work and resilience. For the past thirty years, she has founded five self-managing companies and coached thousands of entrepreneurs, helping them make money their best employee. Marissa is the author of the NEW book "Live Life Rich" and a dynamic keynote speaker, using her special blend of practical, tactical, and Intentional 30+ years of experience to help people move forward from where they are to where they want to be.

Beyond business, Marissa is a global impact leader. She Cofounded The Foundation of Latin America, which mobilizes entrepreneurship with the purpose of eliminating poverty through the building of sewing schools for women in Costa Rica, developing sustainable energy projects, forestry, and organic farms. A mother, grandmother, and visionary leader, Marissa lives in St.

Petersburg, Florida, raising her family while continuing to inspire, educate, and lead. Marissa is most excited about the launch of her healing and retreat center on her mountain in Costa Rica, set to open January 2026.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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In this episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui unpack one of the most overlooked drivers of business success—and one that directly impacts your marriage, time, and overall fulfillment: company culture. While most entrepreneurs obsess over sales, marketing, and profit margins, they often treat culture as a "nice to have." But as they reveal, culture is not soft—it's strategic. It determines whether your business feels energizing or draining, whether your team thrives or turns over, and ultimately whether your business supports your life…or consumes it.

Drawing from real-world experience, they share how a strong, healthy culture can outperform higher salaries when it comes to retaining great people. Employees don't just leave for money—they leave because of their daily experience. When leaders prioritize trust, respect, and alignment, teams stay longer, perform better, and create an environment where everyone actually enjoys showing up. For married entrepreneurs, this becomes even more critical—because a dysfunctional team doesn't just hurt the business, it follows you home.

The conversation goes deeper into the hard leadership decisions most business owners avoid—especially when it comes to dealing with toxic team members. One wrong person can quietly erode morale, productivity, and trust. And while letting someone go is never easy, failing to act can cost far more—in your profits, your team, and your peace of mind. The takeaway is clear: when you build and protect a healthy culture, you don't just grow a better business—you create the freedom, balance, and clarity needed to win at both business and marriage.

• Culture is your most undervalued asset – It directly impacts profitability, retention, and enjoyment of your business.

• People don't leave just for money – They leave because of poor culture, leadership, or work environment.

• One person can make or break your team – Especially in small businesses, a single toxic employee can derail everything.

• Hire for values, not just skill – Skills can be trained; integrity, character, and work ethic are much harder to develop.

• Pay attention to what you feel – Culture is often sensed before it's measured—trust your instincts as a leader.

• Avoiding hard decisions is costly – Keeping the wrong person hurts morale, productivity, and ultimately your bottom line.

• Healthy culture fuels business AND marriage – When your team runs well, you reclaim time, energy, and presence at home.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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After a jam-packed few weeks onboarding clients and juggling a major project, Robert & Kay Lee get real about a message every married entrepreneur needs to hear: "Hustle now, rest later" is a myth that steals joy, strains marriages, and sabotages long-term business value. In this candid conversation, they unpack why constant grind doesn't equal greater achievement—and how to build a business that grows and lets you enjoy life with your spouse now, not "someday."

You'll hear how choosing family over finance actually creates a stronger company: better culture, lower turnover, healthier leadership, and a business people would want to buy or inherit. They share practical first steps to break the cycle—like taking intentional time off (even half-days), setting clear boundaries between work and home, and building trust in your team so the business can run without you. The goal? A sellable, scalable, legacy business that supports your marriage rather than competing with it.

If you've ever thought, "I'll rest when I'm dead," this episode is your gentle (but firm) reset. Learn how to pace your ambition, protect your relationship, and design systems and team capacity that free your time. You can grow profits and deepen connection—without grinding yourself or your marriage into the ground.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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• Hustle ≠ Happiness: Achievement alone won't deliver lasting joy; healthy relationships and rhythms do.

• Family Over Finance: Prioritizing marriage and home life strengthens culture, performance, and retention.

• Design for Exit (or Freedom): Build a business that runs and grows without you—making it sellable, transferable, and actually attractive to the next owner or your kids.
  Start Small, Start Now: If a full day off feels impossible, begin with a half-day or device-free evening; build the "time-off muscle."

• Boundaries Create Balance: Define when business ends and family begins so work doesn't invade every conversation and moment.

• Delegate & Trust: Train (or replace) where needed so you can disconnect without fear—the house won't burn down.

• Burnout Hits Early: Even under-40 owners are burning out; prevention beats recovery every time.

Every married entrepreneur knows mistakes come with the territory—but they don't have to derail your marriage or business. In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee pull back the curtain on the top five mistakes they've made as married entrepreneurs—and the lessons learned along the way. From overlooking the "Chief Feelings Officer" to chasing shiny objects, they share candid stories that cost them time, money, and peace (sometimes six figures!).

You'll hear how "hiring for convenience" created unnecessary conflict, why building real friendships beats pouring money into funnels, and how perfectionism in business slows down growth. Each mistake is paired with a practical takeaway that will save you frustration and keep your marriage strong while your business thrives. Whether you're just starting out or have been building for years, you'll find yourself nodding along and probably laughing at the similarities to your own journey.

Tune in to laugh, learn, and avoid these common pitfalls so you and your spouse can grow your business and your marriage in tandem. These are hard-won lessons you don't need to repeat—so you can build smarter, stronger, and with more joy together.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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Key Takeaways:

• Always listen to your CFO—Chief Feelings Officer. Ignoring your spouse's intuition can cost more than you think.

• Don't fall for Shiny Object Syndrome—invest in tools and strategies that truly fit your business stage.

• Never hire for convenience. Assign roles based on strengths, not just availability.

• Focus on friendships over funnels—real relationships create stronger, lasting growth.

Stop trying to build the "perfect" lead magnet. Launch imperfectly, learn quickly, and improve along the way.

With over 10,000 AI tools at our fingertips, it's tempting to think technology will be our golden ticket to efficiency, profits, and free time. The problem? All that "help" can actually lead to tech creep—where one more tool, one more subscription, and one more DIY task sneak onto your plate until your calendar is full and your marriage is on the back burner.

Bottom line: Tech can absolutely help you grow your business and free up more time for your marriage—if you use it in moderation and keep your focus on the high-level work only you can do.

🎧 Listen now to learn how to put tech in its place so it serves your business, your marriage, and your life—without creeping into every spare moment.

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In this episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee unpack:

• How AI is baked into nearly every tool you already use (Zoom, Gmail, Calendly, Riverside, social media… you name it).

• Why the promise of "faster and cheaper" can backfire if it tempts you to take on more tasks instead of delegating them.

• Real-life examples of when tech streamlines work—and when it quietly eats away your time.

• Why leaders should focus on their zone of genius and resist the guilt of not "being in the trenches."

• How to use tech to empower your team, not overload yourself.

When roles shift at home and at work, even strong couples can feel the strain. In this episode, returning guests Shay and Phil Bynes (Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur) pull back the curtain on their four-year journey of transitioning Shay out of the CEO seat and Phil in—while raising three kids and continuing to lead a global movement. They share what changed, what didn't, and how they protected connection through it all.

You'll hear how they navigated identity, authority, and expectations as spouses and co-leaders—without letting business tension become marital tension. From hearing God's nudge to act, to wrestling with control, to defining new decision rights, Phil and Shay explain the practical guardrails (and plenty of grace) that made the handoff work.

We also get tactical about staying close during busy seasons: weekly "marriage board meetings," spontaneous micro-check-ins, and simple, intentional fun that doesn't require a plane ticket. If you're a married entrepreneur aiming to grow your business without shrinking your marriage, this conversation is a masterclass in change done together.

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Key Takeaways:

• Transitions need clarity: Decide who owns which decisions now (vision, people, money, operations) and write it down.

• Step back—then calibrate: Founders often swing too far away after a handoff; expect to iterate until the advisor/CEO rhythm fits.

• Protect a weekly marriage meeting: Same time, same day, non-negotiable. Use ground rules so issues get resolved before they fester.

• Honor design differences: Lead styles will differ by God's design; resist the urge to "correct" your spouse into your style.

• Let things "sputter" (strategically): Maturity sometimes requires leaders to stop rescuing, so teams learn to think and own outcomes.

• Friendship fuels connection: Micro-moments (10-minute check-ins, pausing a show to talk) keep intimacy alive during busy stretches.

• Serve first leadership: Out-serving one another at home creates safety and teamwork that shows up in the business.

• Plan fun on purpose: Comedy nights, simple dates, and kid-care logistics belong on the calendar like any key meeting.

Phil Bynes is CEO of Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur, a global movement equipping entrepreneurs to partner with God in business and create greater Kingdom impact in the marketplace. He is also the owner and lead therapist at Crazy Good Massage, where he has served clients with excellence for over 20 years.

Shae Bynes, affectionately known as the Chief Fire Igniter, equips leaders to build grace-empowered cultures where people and results flourish. She has impacted over one million people worldwide through her books, courses, podcasts, and speaking. In her executive advising work, she brings a unique blend of strategic clarity, spiritual intelligence, and transformational insight.

High school sweethearts since age 16, Phil and Shae have been married for 26 years and are the proud parents of three daughters.

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Every married entrepreneur knows the challenge of managing different energy levels—especially when one spouse is ready to go full throttle and the other needs to pace themselves. In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee get real about how this dynamic plays out in their own relationship, from social events and vacations to business strategy sessions and conferences. They reflect on their early frustrations and how intentional communication helped them transform energy differences from a source of conflict into a strength.

They share practical tips for managing expectations, planning ahead, and respecting each other's rhythms—whether you're attending a networking event, hosting a retreat, or simply planning your weekend. From code words to separate cars, from downtime gaps on vacation to avoiding heavy convos at bedtime, this episode offers insight into how married couples can honor each other's needs while still pursuing shared goals.

Plus, they announce new in-person events—like their upcoming wine pairing dinner, concerts in the park, and even a ski trip in 2026. If you've ever wished your spouse could just keep up (or slow down), this is the episode that will help you find peace, pace, and partnership.

• Don't assume your spouse should match your energy—discuss your needs and make a plan ahead of time.

• Rest isn't always about sleep; it can also mean freedom from rigid schedules or overstimulation.

• Schedule important conversations when you're both alert—avoid conflict-heavy talks late at night or during busy moments.
  Protect the bedroom as a place of intimacy and peace, not stress or business talk.

• Even high-energy spouses benefit from margin; intentional rest improves clarity, focus, and connection.

When was the last time you and your spouse really laughed together? In this week's episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee dive deep into a topic too many married entrepreneurs overlook—fun. After returning from an 18-day dream vacation in Italy and hosting their first "Thriving in Tandem Date Night," they realized just how many couples have stopped making space for joy. Between business demands, family responsibilities, and endless to-do lists, fun often gets pushed aside.

Robert and Kay Lee share creative, budget-friendly ways to bring fun back into your marriage without waiting for the "perfect" time or a big trip. From driveway date nights to free concerts in the park, they remind us that joy isn't about extravagance—it's about intentionality. They also reveal how planning events for their married entrepreneur community has given them built-in reasons to prioritize their own date nights and adventures.

This episode is full of practical ideas, relatable laughs, and a powerful reminder that fun is essential for a thriving marriage and business. Whether it's putting date nights on the calendar, joining in-person gatherings, or even "forcing" fun through memberships or pre-paid trips, Robert and Kay Lee challenge you to stop waiting and start creating shared memories now.

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Key Takeaways:

• Fun fuels connection – Laughter and shared experiences lower stress, boost creativity, and strengthen your bond.

• Intentionality is everything – If it's not on the calendar, it probably won't happen.

• Fun doesn't have to be expensive – Explore free and local activities; creativity counts more than cost.

• Community matters – Being around other married entrepreneurs creates instant understanding and encouragement.

Sometimes you have to "force" fun – Pre-committing with reservations, memberships, or events helps ensure you follow through.

In this episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee unpack the dangers of making impulsive business or investment decisions based on hype, emotion, or pressure. Whether it's a flashy marketing strategy, a "can't miss" real estate deal, or a new business venture, many married entrepreneurs get swept up in the excitement without counting the cost. Drawing from real-life lessons—some painful—they discuss how couples can safeguard their finances and their marriage by slowing down, asking the right questions, and aligning their risk tolerance.

Together, they walk through key decision-making pitfalls: FOMO, emotional buying, and lack of due diligence. You'll learn how to avoid being manipulated by urgency or scarcity tactics and how to test business ideas in small ways before investing big. Most importantly, Robert and Kay Lee show how couples can communicate through their differences in risk tolerance and move forward in unity—because your business should grow your wealth, not blow up your relationship.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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Key Takeaways:

1. Risk tolerance matters—especially in marriage. Know yours, know your spouse's, and talk about it before you're faced with a big decision.

2. Don't let hype override wisdom. Watch out for pressure tactics like limited-time offers or guaranteed returns—they're red flags.

3. Test before you invest. Whether it's marketing or real estate, start small. Use low-cost or no-cost methods to gauge results first.

4. Emotions + speed = danger. Fast decisions made under emotional pressure are more likely to backfire. Take time to assess the risk.

5. Do your due diligence. Ask hard questions. Get wise counsel. Research independently. Don't rely solely on what a salesperson says.

💡 Bonus Tip: Discuss hypothetical investment decisions when you're not under pressure. It helps you understand each other better and prepares you to make wiser choices when it counts.

In this special live-audience episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee welcome back long-time friends and returning guests, Jim and Martha Brangenberg. From running a real estate development project to revitalizing their small town, serving as volunteer firefighters and chaplains, caring for aging parents, hosting their radio show I Work for Him, and spearheading community events — Jim and Martha live a full, fast-paced life. Yet, despite the chaos, they've learned the value of slowing down, setting boundaries, and keeping God at the center of their marriage.

Together, we unpack the disciplines, decisions, and daily habits that help them work as a team in both life and business. They share how prayer has been their "secret sauce" for 43 years, why listening to each other's God-given instincts matters, and how choosing connection over conflict has kept their relationship strong. From avoiding "hangry" arguments to navigating seasons where traditional date nights are impossible, Jim and Martha offer practical, real-life strategies for staying close in the busiest of seasons.

Whether you're building a business, leading in your community, or simply juggling the everyday demands of marriage and family, this episode will encourage you to protect your partnership, prioritize your quiet time with God, and let go of the small stuff that doesn't matter in the long run. Jim and Martha's story is a reminder that thriving in tandem isn't about perfection — it's about intention, grace, and staying on the same team no matter what.

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Key Takeaways:

• Prayer is a powerful anchor — begin and end your day with it, even if everything else falls apart.

• Listen to and respect your spouse's instincts, especially when they feel prompted by God.

• Protect your marriage from unnecessary tension by "letting go" of minor irritations.

• Seasons of busyness may require redefining date nights — connection matters more than formality.

• Set boundaries with your time, use your calendar intentionally, and be willing to say no to protect your priorities.

• True teamwork means surrendering your agenda to God's direction and committing to run the race together.

Bio:

Jim Brangenberg

An entrepreneur for life, Jim has grown several start-ups and mentored many business owners. His God-gifted ability to ask the right questions lends itself well to his role as host of the iWork4Him program, the Faith and Work mouthpiece founded in 2013.

Martha Brangenberg

Born into an entrepreneurial family, Martha has been involved in small business her entire life. Gifted with an attention to detail and a sweet sensitive spirit, Martha is a servant leader with a deep faith in Jesus.

Together, Jim and Martha are passionate about living out faith at work, building strong marriages and regularly offer marriage retreats. They have three grown children and six grandchildren.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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Join Robert and Kay Lee Fukui as they draw surprising yet powerful parallels between crafting a fine bottle of wine and building a strong, lasting marriage. Fresh off their dream vacation to Italy and inspired by the care, patience, and intentionality they witnessed at the wineries, the Fukuis unpack four key principles that apply both to wine-making and thriving in tandem with your spouse: patience, environment, oxygen (aka communication and emotional safety), and blend.

Through personal stories—from the early days of their relationship to navigating conflict and collaboration in business—they share how patience creates room for growth, how cultivating the right environment fosters trust, how healthy communication lets go of toxic buildup, and how honoring each other's differences creates the perfect blend in marriage and business. Whether you're a wine lover or just looking for a fresh way to strengthen your relationship, this episode will challenge and encourage you to be more intentional in your marriage and business.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

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Key Takeaways:

• Patience pays off: Just like wine matures under the right conditions, great marriages require time, grace, and room to process emotions and decisions.

• Environment matters: Creating a safe, supportive space—both emotionally and physically—allows your spouse (and your team) to thrive.

• Let it breathe: Addressing conflict and giving each other space to communicate reduces relational toxicity and builds emotional intimacy.

• Blended is better: Embrace your spouse's strengths, differences, and gifts—together, you're far more powerful and approachable as a team.

In this powerful and transparent episode, we're joined by leadership coaches Mark and Christine Jewell, a dynamic couple leading the Momentum Company and Warriors of the Heart. What started as a business-focused meetup evolved into a candid conversation about marriage, money, calling, and the cost of doing life in parallel instead of in partnership. They share the raw truth of how merging their businesses and finances wasn't easy—but it was the key to unlocking a whole new level of peace, purpose, and profit in their home and company.

Christine and Mark get vulnerable about their journey from individual success to shared purpose. They reveal how a word from God—"supernatural unification"—set them on a course that exposed hidden money habits, relational misalignment, and the danger of running side-by-side without real connection. By aligning their financial systems and embracing their God-given roles in life and business, they not only paid off nearly $300K in debt in 18 months, but also experienced explosive growth and deeper family unity.

You'll walk away from this conversation with practical frameworks, spiritual encouragement, and renewed hope that you can build a life and business that thrives—together.

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• Unification multiplies everything: When couples stop building separately and unite around a shared vision, momentum multiplies in marriage, business, and family.

• Money is a heart issue: Transparency, tithing, and structure helped them overcome shame and conflict, leading to financial breakthrough and joy in giving.

• Roles create freedom: Letting go of control and trusting each other's God-given strengths allowed them to operate in their genius without competition or burnout.

Mark Bio:

Mark Jewell is an internationally renowned leadership speaker and coach. As the co-founder and Chief Evangelist of The Momentum Company, an agribusiness focused leadership development company, Mark has worked with countless industry leaders around the globe. Over the past 20 years, Mark has partnered with major organizations like The Andersons, Verdesian Life Sciences, Purina, Cargill and more to facilitate training and help build high-performing teams.

In addition to his speaking and coaching work, Mark hosts "The Intentional Agribusiness Leader Podcast"" where he shares actionable leadership insights with his growing audience. His conversations with industry leaders like Mike Borel, Colin Steen, Kip Pendelton, Hollie Bunn, Stephanie Liska and more provide listeners with tools and strategies to lead with more intention. Mark's insightful style has resonated with professionals across various industries.

Mark is passionate about equipping the next generation of leaders. Through his keynote addresses, programs, and popular podcast, Mark is on a mission to impact ten million leaders. His goal is to spread his message of intentional leadership far and wide, helping both new and experienced professionals maximize their potential and achieve success on their own terms. Mark's expertise and experience have made him one of the most sought-after agribusiness leadership voices today.

Christine Bio:

Christine Jewell is an author, keynote speaker, and faith based executive coach with  over 25 years of experience in the fields of Health + Peak Performance, Entrepreneurship + Human Behaviour . She is also the host of the Breaking Chains Podcast.

As the Founder of Warriors Of The Heart, she specializes in guiding highly successful CEO's and Impact driven leaders to break out of the superficial "life" they've built, redefine success and step into a whole new playing field grounded in eternal, life giving principles.

Christine bridges the gap between the heart, fueled by faith & logic, fueled by practicality -  to help people receive more than they could ever imagine and claim the rich life they were created for.

As a mother of 6, ages 9-23, through a blended family, a wife, high level athlete, multiple business owner and entrepreneur since her 20's, she is intimately familiar with the overwhelm and burnout that can come when building a 'dream' life, as well as what's possible on the other side.

Through years of trials, burning things down and rebuilding from the ashes of her past, she has ditched the rules of this world, following the calling on her heart to cultivate a life of total alignment - where there is more than enough time for her most meaningful work, extraordinary relationships, a legacy of impact - and plenty of rest!

Her vision is to create a community of Kingdom Minded Men and Women who are rising together as powerful co-creators rather than competitors - and are redefining the way we lead at work, in relationships, and every arena of life!

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Many entrepreneurs believe that the key to better performance is simply working harder and longer. But what if the real secret to creativity, clarity, and better decisions is actually learning when to stop working? In this episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui explore the science behind rest and why stepping away from work can dramatically improve both business performance and relationships at home.

The conversation centers around a fascinating concept from neuroscience called the Default Mode Network (DMN)—a state your brain enters when you're not actively focused on a task. While the "Task Positive Network" drives focus and execution, the DMN is where creativity, reflection, emotional processing, and big-picture thinking happen. Robert and Kay Lee explain why many entrepreneurs stay stuck in constant "task mode," and how that constant pressure can actually limit innovation, narrow perspective, and increase stress.

Through personal stories, client examples, and practical ideas—from walks in nature to date nights and simple moments of fun—they show how intentional rest helps entrepreneurs think more strategically, reconnect with their spouse, and regain the creativity needed to grow their business. When you build rhythms of rest into your life, you don't just become a better leader—you become a better spouse and parent as well.

• Your brain operates in two key modes: the Task Positive Network (focus and execution) and the Default Mode Network (creativity and reflection).

• Constant work reduces creativity. When entrepreneurs stay stuck in task mode, their perspective narrows and innovation declines.

• Rest isn't laziness—it's strategic. Activities like walking, hobbies, nature, and fun moments activate the brain's creative pathways.

• Stress blocks creativity. High levels of pressure—like financial strain or constant workload—can prevent entrepreneurs from accessing their most creative thinking.

• Many breakthrough ideas come during downtime. Showers, walks, or quiet moments often trigger your best insights.
  
  Intentional breaks improve performance. High-performing leaders regularly schedule time for rest, exercise, prayer, or reflection.

• Disconnecting strengthens relationships. Being present with your spouse and family creates emotional health and unity at home.

• Rest creates space for vision. Moments away from work help couples dream, strategize, and align around their future together.

• Speaking stress out loud reduces its power. Processing fears and concerns together prevents them from building internally.

• Thriving in business and marriage requires rhythm. Building intentional rest into your routine allows you to perform better in both.

In this heartfelt and adventurous episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui take you behind the scenes of their dream trip through Italy—from Cinque Terre to Florence, Tuscany to Lake Garda. While the landmarks and landscapes were stunning, it was the lessons learned along the way that left the deepest impression. From learning to ask for help, to the value of simplicity, to taking the time to just be, the trip served as a powerful reminder of what truly matters—both in life and in business.

They share stories of free Michelin-starred meals, ancient wine cellars, hiking coastal towns with just a carry-on, and why going slow created the richest experiences. But it wasn't just about sightseeing; it was about practicing margin, enjoying the moment, and bringing that same intentionality into their marriage and entrepreneurial journey. Whether you're dreaming of your next vacation or trying to find a better rhythm between business and family, this episode offers practical and soulful takeaways to help you thrive in tandem.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways:

• Ask Boldly, Expect Lightly: Robert shares how simply asking opened doors to unforgettable (and surprisingly free) experiences, reminding us that relationships matter in business and life.

• Pack Light, Live Light: Traveling with only carry-ons for 18 days taught the power of simplicity—and how less really can be more, even in the way we run our homes and businesses.

• Build in Margin: Whether on vacation or in your calendar, creating space to just be allows for connection, spontaneity, and soul-level rest that recharges you far beyond a to-do list.

👉 P.S. Want their full Italian itinerary? DM them on Instagram @thrivingintandem for the Google Doc with all the details!

Chapters

00:00 Dream Vacation in Italy

04:39 Lessons Learned from the Trip

10:20 The Importance of Asking for Help

11:41 Traveling Light: The Carry-On Experience

15:32 Simplicity in Travel and Life

19:47 Enjoying the Moment: Taking Time to Savor

24:30 Intentional Living: Appreciating Your Surroundings

29:51 Relaxation vs. Adventure: Finding Balance

33:15 Going with the Flow: Embracing the Unexpected

In this action packed episode of Thriving in Tandem, we're joined by Raymond and Leslie Funk—ordained ministers, firearms instructors, and founders of Three Cord Marriage. With raw honesty and humility, they share their journey of rebuilding their marriage after infidelity, addiction, and emotional trauma. From living broken, worldly lives to leading a Kingdom-centered marriage ministry, their story is one of redemption, intentionality, and purpose.

Raymond and Leslie pull back the curtain on how unhealed wounds and selfish expectations nearly destroyed their relationship—and how God met them at rock bottom. Through pastoral counseling, personal accountability, and a commitment to healing as individuals before fixing the marriage, they discovered how to reconnect, forgive, and thrive again. Now, they equip other high-performing couples with tactical tools—both spiritual and practical—to protect and strengthen their marriage.

Listen in as we discuss the real work of rebuilding trust, the power of daily disciplines like prayer and shared vision, and how even firearms training became an unlikely but transformational way to reconnect. Whether your marriage is in crisis or simply needs a refresh, you'll walk away with hope and actionable strategies to protect what matters most.

👉 Learn more at ThreeCordMarriage.com and consider attending one of their unique tactical marriage events.

Tactical Marriage Training Day

Saturday, September 27

https://www.threecordmarriage.com/tactical-marriage-training-day/

Married for A Purpose Marriage Reboot

Openings Available 3rd & 4th Weekend of the Month

https://www.threecordmarriage.com/married-for-a-purpose-marriage-reboot/

To join us live on the first Thursday of each month as we interview our guests, click this link https://business.uschristianchamber.com/events and look for the "USCCC Presents Thriving in Tandem". You'll have the opportunity to ask questions from our guests and meet other married entrepreneurs in the journey of balancing business and relationship.  

Key Takeaways:

• Healing starts with individual accountability. True restoration begins when both spouses are willing to examine their own brokenness—not just blame each other.

• Forgiveness is a process, not a moment. Leslie shares how God's grace and a deep understanding of her identity in Christ helped her forgive—even when it happened more than once.

• Shared vision strengthens unity. Through the Marriage Reboot framework, the Funks learned to align their goals across eight key areas of life and ministry, giving their marriage direction and momentum.

• Connection requires intentionality. Daily prayer, studying scripture together, and honest check-ins are non-negotiables in maintaining emotional and spiritual intimacy.
  
  

• Marriage is worth defending. Their Tactical Marriage Training Day merges spiritual growth with real-world application—using tools and training to symbolize the commitment to build and protect your relationship with intentionality.

Biography:

Raymond and Leslie Funk are ordained ministers, entrepreneurs, certified NRA and USCCA (firearm) instructors, and the founders of the non-profit Three Cord Marriage. They are known for creating a safe space for couples with high-stakes callings in Kingdom and Country. 

Having overcome infidelity, addiction, and emotional trauma in their own marriage, they now equip couples with battle-tested tools, biblical strategy, and tactical insight to break strongholds, reclaim unity, and walk in the purpose God designed for their relationship.

Their strategy? Train couples to fight (shot) for unity so they can lead with greater authority from the overflow of a thriving marriage.

Their mission: Strengthen Marriage. Defend the Family. Transform the Nations.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

In this eye-opening episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee share the single most common money mistake keeping countless married entrepreneurs from building real wealth: debt. Fresh off the facilitation of a financial stewardship workshop, they dig into how everyday debt—often justified or ignored—is quietly stealing your financial future. But here's the good news: the solution is simpler than you think. Spoiler alert: You have to listen til the end.

You'll learn how debt is not just a financial burden, but a barrier to freedom, peace of mind, and legacy-building. Whether it's credit cards, car loans, or payday advances, this conversation explores the hidden costs of "buy now, pay later" culture and how breaking that cycle can unlock wealth potential that most couples never realize. They even run the numbers—showing how just $500/month invested wisely could grow into $1 million over time.

If you've ever said, "We don't have enough to invest," this episode will challenge that belief—and show you exactly how to create margin, eliminate debt, and finally start building long-term wealth together. Practical tips, real-life examples, biblical wisdom, and a strong dose of encouragement await.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Debt Repayment Calculator https://www.crown.org/all-resources/debt-snowball-calculator/

Investment/Retirement Calculator https://www.crown.org/all-resources/?cat=economy-investing&type=calculator 

• Debt is the true wealth killer. The average American carries over $20,000 in consumer debt, costing $1,500/month—money that could be building your future.

• Delayed gratification wins. Saving and paying cash—especially for big-ticket items like cars—can save you thousands and put you on the fast track to financial freedom.

• Simple strategy, massive results. The debt snowball method helps you eliminate debt faster than you think, freeing up cash for giving, investing, and enjoying life.

• Building wealth is more doable than you think. Just $500/month invested at 10% can become $1 million over 30 years—yes, really.

Freedom from debt brings peace. No matter the economy, having no payments gives you breathing room, confidence, and options.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

In this deeply vulnerable and inspiring episode of Thriving in Tandem, we're joined by Krystal Parker, President of the U.S. Christian Chamber of Commerce. Krystal shares her raw journey from corporate executive climbing the ranks of a Fortune 200 oil and gas company to discovering the devastating cost of success when it came at the expense of her marriage and family. What looked like professional triumph on the outside masked a crumbling home life and personal disconnection from what mattered most.

As Krystal takes us back to the peak of her corporate climb—fueled by power, ambition, and external validation—she candidly reveals the blind spots that hurt her marriage ending and relationship with her young daughter. But in the aftermath of that breaking point, Krystal discovered what true leadership and intentional living looked like. From restructuring her work-life rhythms to raising up her team, and ultimately placing God and family at the center, her story offers hope and a powerful reminder that redemption is possible.

Whether you're in a season of hustle or navigating growing pains in business and marriage, Krystal's testimony is a call to evaluate where your time and heart are going. She shares practical boundaries she and her husband now implement, how she keeps her daughter a priority, and the critical difference between using work as worship instead of worshiping work. This is a must-listen for married entrepreneurs who don't want to succeed in business only to lose what truly matters most.

Key Takeaways:

• Success without alignment can destroy what matters most. Krystal's corporate rise came with sacrifices she didn't fully see until her marriage and family unraveled.
  
  

• You are irreplaceable at work but you not at home. Delegating empowered Krystal's team and freed her to re-engage with her daughter and home life.
  
  

• Boundaries and intention create lasting connection. Krystal and her husband carve out intentional moments—even in busy seasons—to stay united and keep God at the center of their marriage.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Thriving in Tandem Podcast

02:01 Crystal Parker's Journey in the Oil and Gas Industry

10:11 Challenges of Balancing Career and Family Life

12:00 The Turning Point: Becoming a Solo Parent

18:07 Finding Balance in a New Marriage and Career

23:53 Lessons Learned and Final Thoughts

In this deeply personal episode, Robert and Kay Lee invite you into their real-time decision-making process as they consider a cross-country move from California to North Carolina. Fresh off a month-long stay in Lake Norman, they share candid reflections on the conversations, emotions, and logistical considerations that come with such a significant transition. From the practical realities of moving and renting to the emotional weight of leaving behind familiarity and friendships, this episode reveals how they approach big decisions as a married couple and entrepreneurial team.

Whether you're facing a business pivot, relocation, or other major life decision, you'll gain valuable insights on how to navigate change without unnecessary conflict. Robert and Kay Lee walk through the importance of "baby steps" in decision-making, how to test the waters before diving in, and how differing emotional responses between spouses can actually work together to bring clarity and peace. They also reflect on the value of community, intentionality, and leaning into God's guidance when the future feels uncertain.

This episode is not just about moving houses—it's about building a life with intention, staying united through change, and creating space for wise, thoughtful decisions that serve both your marriage and business. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at how real-life married entrepreneurs process transition without growing apart.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways:

• Big transitions—whether in life or business—are best navigated in small, intentional steps.

• Differing emotional responses between spouses are normal and can be leveraged for better communication and mutual understanding.

• Creating a plan B and "testing the waters" reduces anxiety and sets you up for more confident decision-making.

• Don't rush into big changes—whether it's a move, business shift, or investment—without first confirming peace and unity as a couple.

• Community, intentional planning, and faith-driven discernment are key to thriving in tandem through seasons of change.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background on the Move

02:52 Exploring Lake Norman and Decision-Making Process

06:09 Testing the Waters: A Month in Lake Norman

08:54 Building Relationships and Community Connections

12:13 Emotional Aspects of Major Life Transitions

15:03 Decision-Making Styles in Relationships

17:56 Taking Baby Steps in Major Changes

20:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode, we welcome Dr. Justin and Dr. Courtney Mosley, a powerhouse chiropractic couple and owners of Music City Health Center, one of the largest natural health clinics in Middle Tennessee. They share their journey of building a business and marriage together, from their serendipitous meeting to navigating the challenges of working side by side. The Mosleys reveal how they learned to honor each other's strengths, set clear business boundaries, and scale their practice to achieve both professional success and personal balance.

Dr. Justin, known as the Mindset Doctor, also takes us through his near-death experience and how it reshaped his purpose, leading him to impact lives beyond the clinic through speaking, coaching, and masterminds. Meanwhile, Dr. Courtney discusses the importance of prioritizing health, setting boundaries, and creating a sustainable business model that allows them to serve their community without sacrificing their well-being. They provide invaluable insights for married entrepreneurs on building a thriving business without burnout, leading by example, and making faith-driven decisions.

Podcast: The Mindset Doctor https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mindset-doctor-podcast/id1676852153 

Follow Dr. Justin on Instagram at @drjustinmosley and Dr. Courtney at @doccourtney
Watch Dr. Justin's TED Talk on overcoming fear of public speaking: https://youtu.be/aImrjNPrh30?feature=shared
Need chiropractic care in Nashville? Visit https://www.musiccityhealthcenter.com/

Key Takeaways:

• The power of aligning your business and marriage vision before starting a venture together.

• How learning from other entrepreneurial couples helped them navigate working as spouses.

• The importance of setting business boundaries to prevent burnout and maintain work-life balance.

• How Dr. Justin's near-death experience led to a mission shift and greater impact.

• The significance of honoring each other's strengths and hiring strategically to scale a business.

• Why faith and intuition should play a role in major business and life decisions.

Bio

Dr. Justin and Dr. Courtney Moseley are the owners of Music City Health Center, one of the largest natural health clinics in Middle Tennessee.

Dr. Justin Moseley, known as The Mindset Doctor, is a 2-time TEDx speaker, international keynote speaker, and host of The Mindset Doctor Podcast. After surviving a near-death accident in 2018, he shifted his mission from transforming lives in his clinic to inspiring audiences worldwide. Dr. Justin empowers others to unlock their full potential, create next-level success, and leave a lasting legacy.

Dr. Courtney is on a mission to empower women to reclaim their energy, balance their hormones, and rediscover the joy of living. 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

In this episode of Thriving in Tandem, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui break down five essential strategies to grow your business without sacrificing your marriage. From setting clear boundaries between work and home to increasing profit margins, they discuss how to work smarter, not harder, so you can scale your business while staying connected to your spouse. They also share personal insights from their time at Lake Norman, reflecting on how intentional rest fuels creativity and productivity.

The couple emphasizes the importance of managing work hours, prioritizing high-impact tasks, and delegating effectively to reclaim time for what matters most. They explain how improving profit margins allows you to reduce stress and avoid the endless hustle, making room for both business growth and a thriving relationship. Finally, they highlight the often-overlooked key to success: listening to your spouse's perspective, which can provide valuable insights and prevent costly blind spots in your business.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

✅ Set Clear Boundaries – Establish firm work-life boundaries to protect quality time with your spouse and family.
✅ Manage Your Work Hours – More hours don't always mean more productivity; focus on efficiency over effort.
✅ Prioritize High-Value Tasks – Spend time on revenue-generating activities and delegate or automate busywork.
✅ Increase Profit Margins – Raise prices strategically and cut inefficiencies to work less while earning more.
✅ Listen to Your Spouse – Their outside perspective can reveal blind spots and help you make better business decisions.

In this episode, we welcome Kent and Gina Murawski, a dynamic couple with a rich history in both ministry and business. Having led Journey Church in Cambridge, MA, for over a decade, Kent now coaches high-achieving leaders while Gina works as a holistic nutritionist. Together, they share their journey of balancing leadership, family, and personal well-being—offering insights on overcoming burnout, managing expectations, and living intentionally.

Kent and Gina open up about the pressures they faced in ministry, the weight of unspoken expectations, and the personal toll of trying to meet everyone's needs. From Kent's early burnout experience to Gina's struggle with people-pleasing, they reveal the challenges they encountered and the strategies they now use to help others avoid the same pitfalls. Through their Rhythms of Rest framework, they provide practical steps to help entrepreneurs and leaders prevent burnout and create a sustainable life plan.

If you're a married entrepreneur striving to succeed in business without sacrificing your family or well-being, this episode is packed with wisdom on setting boundaries, embracing self-awareness, and making space for true rest. Learn how to align your business, marriage, and personal life for long-term success.

Resources Mentioned:

• Rest Assured by Kent Murawski https://kentmurawski.com/rest-assured 

• The Purpose & Clarity Guide (Available at KentMurawski.com)

• Kent's upcoming book The Life Plan (Sign up for updates at KentMurawski.com/catalyst) 

1. The Weight of Expectations Can Lead to Burnout – Whether from others or self-imposed, unrealistic expectations can create unhealthy stress and exhaustion. Learning to set boundaries and say "no" is crucial.

2. Rest and Intentional Living Are Non-Negotiables – The Rhythms of Rest framework (relational, emotional, spiritual, and tangible rhythms) helps leaders build a sustainable life plan that prioritizes well-being.

3. Marriage Requires Communication and Growth – Differences in personalities and leadership styles can cause tension, but they can also be strengths. Learning to communicate openly and embrace each other's strengths leads to a healthier partnership.

4. Prioritizing Rest is a Radical Act of Faith – Taking a 24-hour Sabbath from work and technology can transform your mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being, leading to greater productivity and peace.

5. Self-Awareness is Key to Long-Term Success – Understanding personal limits, values, and strengths allows leaders to build a business and marriage that thrive together rather than compete.

 Share this episode with another married entrepreneur who needs to hear this message! Stay tuned for more strategies to thrive in both business and marriage.

Biography

Kent and Gina Murawski are living proof that the best partnerships start with a head-over-heels moment. Nearly 25 years ago, Gina took one look at Kent and decided he was the one (at least according to Kent's version of the story). 

Together, they've built a family and a legacy of service, having planted and led Journey Church in Cambridge, Massachusetts from 2009 to 2023. While Kent coaches high-achieving leaders and writes books in his signature uniform of plain tees and dark jeans, Gina transforms lives as a certified holistic nutritionist and supplements specialist. Her journey with celiac disease sparked a passion for helping others navigate life without gluten, all while sporting her distinctive boho style and newest coffee mug acquisition (yes, the collection is still growing).

Parents to three kids aged 21, 18, and 12, they're "experts" at navigating both family dynamics and professional transitions. Their household remains stubbornly pet-free—not because they don't love animals, but because Kent (who works from home) knows exactly who would end up being the full-time dog walker. As he puts it, "you can have all the pets you want when you have your own house!" 

These days, you'll find them walking side by side in life and business, sharing their complementary wisdom about sustainable success, holistic wellness, and authentic leadership—always with a cup of coffee in hand.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://build.marriedentrepreneur.co/balance-business-marriage-better

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Source: Medical News Today https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-overwork-kill-you#Preventing-overwork 

In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui dive into the seven major health risks associated with the relentless hustle and grind mentality that many entrepreneurs embrace. While working hard is often celebrated, they uncover how excessive stress, burnout, and overworking can silently deteriorate your health, relationships, and overall well-being. They discuss research-backed insights on how long hours correlate with increased risks of stroke, heart disease, depression, and even cancer.

The conversation highlights the warning signs of stress-related health issues, how they often go unnoticed until it's too late, and why managing stress is critical for longevity in both business and marriage. They also break down the importance of daily habits that promote better health—such as sleep, nutrition, and intentional rest—and how the A.D.E. method (Automate, Delegate, Eliminate) can help entrepreneurs work smarter, not harder.

This episode is a must-listen for married entrepreneurs who feel the pressure of balancing business success with personal well-being. Robert and Kay Lee provide practical strategies to reclaim time, prioritize health, and prevent burnout, ensuring you can thrive in both your business and your marriage for years to come.

✅ Hustle culture has serious health risks – Stress, burnout, and overwork contribute to heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and even early death.
✅ Success isn't tied to working more hours – Research shows no direct correlation between hours worked and financial success, but there is a strong link between overworking and declining health.
✅ Burnout is a medical condition – The World Health Organization classifies burnout as a workplace phenomenon with real physical and mental consequences.
✅ Women entrepreneurs face added stress – Juggling business, home responsibilities, and family increases burnout risks for women more than men.
✅ Better daily habits lead to better health – Small adjustments like morning routines, healthy eating, and better sleep can drastically improve well-being.
✅ Work smarter, not harder – The ADE Method (Automate, Delegate, Eliminate) helps entrepreneurs reduce workload without sacrificing success.

🎧 Tune in now and share with a fellow entrepreneur who needs to hear this!

Join Robert and Kay Lee Fukui as they sit down with Evan and Susan Money for a lively and insightful conversation about balancing marriage and entrepreneurship. The couples dive into the unique challenges of running a business together while keeping their relationship strong, with lots of laughs, personal stories, and practical tips along the way.

Evan and Susan open up about their journey of growth—both as partners in marriage and business—and how they've made intentionality, mentorship, and communication the foundation of their success. They share how simple things, like playing pickleball together, can strengthen a relationship and bring much-needed fun into a busy life.

You'll hear them talk about the power of understanding each other's love languages, managing different energy levels and processing styles, and taking responsibility for your own actions in both work and marriage. They also dig into the importance of setting boundaries and clear expectations to avoid those all-too-common conflicts that can arise when life and business overlap.

Whether you're building a business with your spouse or just looking to create a more connected marriage, this episode is packed with real talk, relatable stories, and actionable advice you can use right away.

Bio:

Evan & Susan Money have been married for over 30 years. But more importantly they've had over 30 weddings within that span…to each other. They're entrepreneurs, bestselling authors and podcasters where they are focused on restoring the flow of love in your marriage. Evan and Susan lead workshops, group sessions and even pickleball marriage retreats for growth-minded couples that want to go from GOOD TO GREAT in their marriages…..

https://evanmoney.com/our-story/

https://evanlovessusan.com/

Download the FREE "The Vow Renewal Handbook" https://www.marriageofgreatness.com/opt-in-6fd42fb3-cf71-4dae-8bf2-e53fc4b0b09c 

Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-money-25508519/ 

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/evan.money 

Books

The One Day Diet: How to live a cancer prevention life

Take Action Now: How to live your dreams in less than 3 weeks

#1 Money Talks, Negativity Walks

#1 Happily Ever After: Discover reedom & true love in your marriage

https://evanmoney.com/moviesbooks/ 

Takeaways:

• Marriage and business often come with unexpected challenges.

• Intentionality is key to maintaining a strong relationship.

• Engaging in playful activities can enhance communication.

• Mentorship plays a crucial role in personal and professional growth.

• Understanding love languages can improve relationship dynamics.

• Continuous improvement is essential for long-term success.

• Rejecting busyness allows for deeper connections.

• Couch dates can be a simple yet effective way to connect.

• Couples should focus on one activity at a time to avoid overwhelm.

• Creating a supportive environment fosters growth in both marriage and business. When you understand your partner's love language, it simplifies communication.

• Creating a lifestyle of love requires intentionality and daily effort.

• Understanding processing styles can prevent misunderstandings in communication.

• Managing energy levels is crucial for harmony in a relationship.

• Wearing different 'hats' helps clarify roles in marriage and business.

• Clear communication is essential to avoid assumptions and expectations.

• Taking responsibility is key to personal growth and relationship success.

• It's important to embrace each other's differences rather than trying to change one another.

• Setting boundaries helps maintain balance between work and personal life.

• Tools and resources can help couples navigate their journey together.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Everyone is searching for the secret formula to success—the one strategy that guarantees a thriving business and a fulfilling marriage. But just like building a house, lasting success doesn't come from the finished product people admire. It comes from the detailed work that happens long before the final result is visible. In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui break down the blueprint for thriving in both marriage and business, using a simple but powerful analogy: the foundation, the walls, and the roof.

The foundation of any successful life and business begins with shared vision and values. Without clarity about how you want to live, where you want to go, and how your business fits into your life, couples often drift into unnecessary conflict and competing expectations. Robert and Kay Lee share real-life examples of how intentional vision conversations—about time, work boundaries, and lifestyle—help couples design businesses that support their lives rather than control them.

From there, the blueprint moves to the walls, which represent the systems and boundaries that hold everything together. Communication, conflict resolution, and daily disciplines create structure so that work doesn't overrun family life. Finally, the roof protects the relationship through connection, intimacy, celebration, and fun—the very reasons many entrepreneurs started their businesses in the first place. When couples intentionally build these three elements, they create a life where both marriage and business can truly thrive in tandem.

1. Start with the Foundation: Vision and Values
   Couples must regularly discuss what they want their life and business to look like—today and in the future—to avoid misaligned expectations.

   • Design Your Business Around Your Life
     Just because an industry operates a certain way doesn't mean you have to follow it. Successful entrepreneurs intentionally shape their business to fit their lifestyle.

2. Walls Represent Systems and Boundaries
   Healthy communication, conflict resolution skills, and clear boundaries between work and home keep both marriage and business strong.

   • Daily Disciplines Strengthen the Relationship
     Simple routines—morning connection, shared meals, prayer, or intentional conversations—help couples stay aligned even during busy seasons.

3. The Roof Is Connection and Intimacy
   Fun, celebration, and meaningful time together protect and sustain the relationship over the long term

   • Connection Requires Intentional Time
     Being busy together doesn't mean you're truly connecting. Couples must create moments to talk, encourage each other, and share their hearts.

Many entrepreneurs and couples dream big but struggle to turn their visions into reality. In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui share their personal journey of setting and achieving long-term goals—both in business and life. Broadcasting from their temporary studio in beautiful Lake Norman, North Carolina, they reflect on the small, intentional steps they took to build the life they envisioned. They discuss why only 8% of people actually achieve their goals, the power of revisiting your vision regularly, and why progress matters more than perfection.

Through their experiences—from climbing the corporate ladder to building a thriving business together—they reveal the key mindset shifts and practical actions that helped them make their dreams attainable. Whether it's growing your business, reaching financial freedom, or designing a lifestyle that truly aligns with your priorities, they break down how to take small, strategic steps toward your big goals. Plus, they offer insights on overcoming the fear of making the "perfect" decision and how to avoid common pitfalls that keep people stuck in the planning phase.

If you're ready to move from "maybe someday" to making real progress toward your vision, this episode is for you. Tune in as Robert and Kay Lee encourage you to dream boldly, take action, and create the life and business you truly desire—one step at a time.

✅ Speak or Write Your Vision – Articulating your goals helps bring them to life. Keep them visible and revisit them often.
✅ Progress Over Perfection – Focus on taking consistent small steps rather than waiting for the perfect moment.
✅ Physically Immerse Yourself in Your Vision – Visit places or connect with people aligned with your dreams to make them feel more real.
✅ Revisit and Adjust Your Goals Regularly – Reviewing your vision often helps you stay on track and make necessary adjustments.
✅ Take Action, Even If It's Small – Success doesn't happen overnight; it's the result of steady, incremental progress.

👉 Share this episode with a fellow married entrepreneur who needs encouragement! And let us know your vision—email us at info@PowerCouplesByDesign.com.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Are you looking for help to better your health, productivity, and marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download  

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Why Money Arguments Are Tearing Marriages Apart—and How to Stop Them

Money is one of the top sources of conflict in marriage. From debates over spending and saving to disagreements about investing and earning, financial differences can strain even the strongest relationships. These disputes are often at the root of divorce or emotional disconnection.

Why do couples struggle so much with money conversations, and how can they work together to find common ground?

This week, we're joined by Deb Meyer, a Certified Financial Planner and founder of WorthyNest®, a wealth management firm specializing in family-focused financial planning. Deb shares the most common reasons couples clash over money and offers practical strategies to help you and your spouse align your financial goals, reduce conflict, and build a stronger partnership.

Don't let money arguments define your marriage—tune in to learn how to turn these tough conversations into opportunities for growth and connection.

Website: https://www.worthynest.com/press 

FREE Marriage and Money Download https://www.worthynest.com/marriage-and-money-guide 

Key Takeaways:

• It's important to frame financial discussions in a fun way.

• Creative budgeting can enhance the spending experience.

• Memories created as a family are more valuable than gifts.

• Regular conversations about money can reduce tension in relationships.

• Budgeting is just one aspect of a comprehensive financial plan.

• Couples can forge a new financial future together.

• Faith can guide financial decision-making.

• Experiences often provide more satisfaction than material possessions.

• Engaging children in financial discussions can be beneficial.

• Regular check-ins on financial goals are essential for progress.

Deb Meyer, CFP®, CPA, and CEPA, is the award-winning author of Redefining Family Wealth, host of the Beyond Budgets® podcast (we were on Episode 19), and founder of WorthyNest®, a fee-only, fiduciary wealth management firm that guides parents through important financial decisions using a values-based approach.

Deb has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and CNN Business and is a contributor to Kiplinger.  She is a 2019 CPA Practice Advisor "40 Under 40 Honoree" in Accounting and received the 2018 AICPA Standing Ovation Award.  Deb lives in Missouri with her husband Bryan and three sons.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

We often talk about priorities and what truly matters beyond the demands of business, but last week, we faced a real-life test of those values.

In this episode, we recount the moment our condo fire alarm blared in the middle of the largest firestorm Southern California has ever seen. With fires raging near Malibu and just north of us in Pasadena, the air was thick with smoke and ash, triggering an immediate sense of fear: Could the fire have reached our building?

The urgency of the moment forced us to act fast. What do you grab when you might lose everything? What does that reveal about what you truly value?

Join us as we unpack this experience, reflect on how it clarified our priorities, and explore why we often cling so tightly to replaceable things. This is a powerful conversation about defining what matters most in life—and living that out every day.

Ways you can help the fire victims https://www.harvestrock.church/ 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://build.marriedentrepreneur.co/balance-business-marriage-better 

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Takeaways

• Relationships are the most important aspect of life.

• In times of crisis, we realize what truly matters.

• Material possessions can be replaced, but memories cannot.

• It's essential to prioritize family and relationships over business.

• Natural disasters can have long-lasting effects on communities.

• People often want to help but may not know how.

• Preparation for disasters should include emotional readiness.

• Reflecting on what is important can lead to a more fulfilling life.

• The aftermath of disasters requires long-term support and rebuilding efforts.

• We should not wait for disaster to reassess our priorities.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: The Importance of Relationships

02:00 Facing Natural Disasters: A Personal Experience

12:45 What Truly Matters: Prioritizing During Crisis

19:30 Long-Term Effects of Disasters on Communities

25:32 Reflection: Reassessing Priorities in Life

Work-life balance is something many of us desire but often struggle to achieve. Over time, many have resigned themselves to the busyness of life, accepting it as the norm. However, the truth is, while work-life balance is simple to define, it can be mentally and emotionally challenging to implement.

In this episode, we explore two key factors for achieving balance: 1) Defining what work-life balance truly means for you and your spouse, and 2) Making intentional, daily choices to support that vision. We also share our own daily habits that help us maintain balance, even when life and business get hectic. Tune in to learn practical strategies to create and sustain the work-life harmony you've been seeking.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Takeaways

• Work-life balance is about quality time in business and family.

• Morning routines are crucial for setting a positive tone.

• Taking breaks every 90 minutes enhances productivity.

• Disconnecting from electronics fosters better family connections.

• Defining personal work-life balance is essential for success.

• Daily habits should be simple and manageable.

• Creating a purposeful daily plan helps prioritize important tasks.

• Regular exercise and stretching improve physical and mental health.

• Gratitude journaling can enhance emotional well-being.

• Start with one new habit at a time to avoid overwhelm.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Work-Life Balance for Entrepreneurs

03:01 Defining Work-Life Balance

05:52 The Importance of Morning Routines

11:58 Taking Breaks for Better Performance

17:48 Disconnecting from Electronics

24:01 Purposeful Daily Planning

29:51 Conclusion and Call to Action

In this episode, Robert and Kay Lee Fukui discuss five common business mistakes that hinder growth and profitability while affecting work-life balance. They emphasize the importance of focusing on profit margins rather than just sales volume, the pitfalls of discounting, the necessity of tracking financial metrics, the value of hiring help, and the need for training employees to ensure business success and personal fulfillment.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways

• Focusing on volume not margin

• Lower prices/discounts to attract more customers

• Not tracking metrics: doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results

• Too cheap to hire

• Not willing to train

Sound Bites

"Five common business mistakes."

"Focusing on volume, not margin."

"Lowering prices to attract customers."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Common Business Mistakes

01:29 Focusing on Volume vs. Margin

06:10 The Pitfalls of Discounting

12:55 Importance of Tracking Metrics

19:19 The Cost of Not Hiring

22:09 The Need for Training Employees

In this episode, we discuss how entrepreneurs can often become so focused on their business that they miss the warning signs that both their marriage and business may be at risk. It's crucial to address small issues in your relationship early on before they grow into larger problems that are harder to fix. 

Tune in to learn about the key red flags you and your spouse should tackle to ensure both your relationship and business thrive together.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways

• Preventive maintenance is crucial for marriage and business.

• Busyness can lead to neglect in relationships.

• Frequent arguments may indicate deeper emotional issues.

• Avoiding hot button issues can create resentment.

• Emotional connection is vital for a healthy marriage.

• Lack of affection can signal relationship trouble.

• Date nights are essential for maintaining connection.

• Scheduling quality time can improve relationship health.

• Communication is key to resolving conflicts.

• A healthy marriage positively impacts business success.

Chapters

00:00 Preventive Maintenance in Marriage and Business

05:06 Identifying Warning Signs of Busyness

10:25 The Impact of Arguments on Relationships

14:45 Avoidance and Its Consequences

20:27 The Importance of Affirmation

23:51 Date Nights: A Lost Tradition

30:46 Course Correction for a Healthier Future

Life can be a roller coaster ride with many highs and lows. Both Darryll and Brittany Stinson share their stories of successes and challenges growing up, marrying each other, building an amazing business, and raising four kids. 

Darryll was a Division 1 football and basketball player and voted Top 100 college athlete in 2008. When things went south his senior year, he landed in rehab, got clean, and eventually found Brittany at his local church. Since then, they have used their gifts, skills, and experience to help others find and use their stories to change the world. 

Website: https://www.darryllstinson.com/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stinsonspeaks/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stinsonspeaks/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mentalhealth-keynotespeaker

Twitter: https://twitter.com/dstinson97

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEHRTpVu-KpqBRHVQBxEwVw

TedX Website: https://tedxalexanderpark.com/

Key Takeaways

• Brittany was an alcoholic working in a bar

• She didn't value herself to love herself

• Darryll didn't fit in growing up and changed who he was to fit in

• Darryll was at the height of his college career then turned to drugs

• Did some time in rehab to get clean and sober and find the Lord

• Different upbringings made marriage tough

• Daily check-ins, weekly meetings, and constant praise makes marriage and business better

• How they define success

Darryll Stinson is the co-founder of Seeding Greatness, a movement of leaders restoring the planet and helping humanity to heal through their stories and transformational services. Licensee of TedX Alexander Park.

As a former Division 1 athlete, Darryll overcame multiple suicide attempts to become a multiple best-selling author and 2xTEDx speaker with more than 2 million views. His accolades as a Top 100 athlete (2008), award-winning higher ed communications professional, #9 Suicide Awareness Speaker (2023), and TEDx organizer (2022-present) attest to the impact of his work. Founder of "Second Chance Athletes" and author of the best selling book, "Who Am I After Sports."

He's coached hundreds of speakers to reach millions of people while growing themselves and their businesses at the same time.

When he's not coaching or captivating audiences, Darryll enjoys rapping, reading, and spending quality time with his wife Brittany, four children Ava, Arianna, Amaya, Isaiah, and dog, Magic.

Brittany Stinson, MSA, is a speaker, operational strategist, and cofounder of Seeding Greatness. Struggling to find herself in college, Brittany overcame alcoholism and unhealthy relationships. Alongside her husband, she went on to build a movement of leaders impacting the world with their stories. Brittany has worked with a diverse portfolio of clients, ranging from solopreneurs and student leaders to hospitals with $500 million in salary budgets. When she isn't working, Brittany enjoys working out and spending quality time with her husband and four children (preferably on a beach somewhere). 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Procrastination can have benefits in business if reframed and used strategically. It is often driven by fear of failure or the desire for perfection. However, when we finally take action, we often realize that the process wasn't as bad as we imagined. 

Procrastination can also provide a learning period and allow for improvements to be made before launching a product or service. It can also be an opportunity for a relaunch, bringing new energy and updates to a project. 

In this episode, we share our own experience of procrastination and how we turned it into an advantage for our business. 

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction: The Benefits of Procrastination

• 01:31 Understanding Why We Procrastinate

• 03:27 Reframing Procrastination for Business

• 05:47 The Learning Period of Procrastination

• 09:11 Using Procrastination for a Successful Relaunch

• 12:00 Discovering Errors and Updates through Procrastination

Today, we will dive into the keys to becoming a high-performance leader at home and in your business. It's all about taking control of your health that will make you perform better, think better, sell better, and lead better. Who doesn't want that?

But don't worry, we're not going to try and persuade to take on the newest diet and exercise fad that won't last. It's about helping you create the right stress free way of eating well and getting the right amount of exercise that fits you. Something that you can make as a way of life that feels natural to you. 

This week's guests Justin Roethlingshoefer and Alyse Gaulin share some highly practical ways that we can live a healthier life without being a gym rat and count every calorie. This will be highly practical and simple. 

Website: https://ownitcoaching.com/ 

Alyse's website: https://alysegaulin.com/ 

The Book: https://thepowerofownershipbook.com/ 

Key Takeaways:

• We normalize dysfunction

• Consuming coffee, sugar, energy drinks, etc. is borrowed energy. Not healthy long term.

• The health scare at 29 while he was a performance coach for the NHL. 

• 4 pillars of ownership

• Fuel

• Build

• Renew

• Repair

• Total health relies on physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health

• You can be physically fit but if the other 75% of your health isn't doing well, stress builds up and your body will break down. 

• Even things that are good for you like exercise can be a cause of unnecessary stress. Ultimately, stress is what you want to reduce. 

• Many entrepreneurs love what they are doing. That's why they can work all day, all night. Until their body says, "no more."
  

Justin's Roethlingshoefer Bio

After completing his MS in Sports Performance and Human Biology, Justin sought out post-graduate work in functional medicine. His 15-year career as a performance director in the NHL and NCAA, prepared Justin Roethlingshoefer for entrepreneurship after realizing that the holistic health solutions he had found a personalized solution to was just not an athlete problem but a human problem.

He founded Own It in 2021 and has become a multiple seven-figure coaching company that applies this health and performance philosophy to clients ranging from NHL stars, to Fortune 500 executives, to entrepreneurs looking to take that next step and realize true health. From sleeping better to mental clarity, reduced anxiety, and increase in energy, he and his team have been providing n=1 solutions for over 10 thousand people the last 2 years.

He's also the creator of the Own It App, which provides simple data collection, meaningful insights, and personalized plans to help users OWN their habits and improve recovery, health, and performance.

Justin has spoken at dozens of events, including the TEDx stage. He's the host of the Sports Science and Recovery Podcast and The Own It Show and the author of a number of books including his most recent bestseller "The Power of Ownership: Redeem Your Health, Live Life by Design and Break the Relentless Pursuit of Normal"

Alyse Gaulin's Bio

As CEO of Own It Coaching, Alyse Gaulin comes with a wealth of experience after helping grow multi-billion dollar corporations in the retail industry, and most recently as an executive at Christian Louboutin. In her role there, she built teams that consistently over-performed & contributed to significant growth.

After working her way up the corporate structure, she knew in her heart that she was an entrepreneur with a passion to change peoples' lives. She went back to school and invested heavily into her own development and education to become an iPEC and ELI-MP certified coach, with thousands of hours of formal training. It led her to co-founding Own It and driving the development of the Inner Energy team. She is also certified through the International Coaching Federation (ICF).

She has worked with 8, 9, and 10 figure entrepreneurs and has a God-given gift in helping people realize their potential. She possesses a calm leadership style that soothes everybody in the room. Her authenticity is infectious and she epitomizes the importance of building quality relationships with everybody she works with and is an integral part of building the Own It Coaching team.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

When it comes to the inability to create work-life balance for many married business owners, there are issues common to most. The good news is that there are common solutions as well. These solutions don't come from us solely but from other married entrepreneurs who've been able to sustain better balance in their lives. 

This is the two-year anniversary of our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/ and the announced release of the audiobook version. Go to our website and grab a copy. 

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways:

• Common problems for married entrepreneurs

• Working a lot of hours- the grind

• No boundaries

• Financial stress

• Arguments

• Spouse is controlling

• Lack of agreement

• The grind of sales

• Low margins

• Can't find help

• Common solutions for married entrepreneurs

• Be intentional

• Calendar your priorities

• The problems will still be there tomorrow

• It's not about you. It's about both of you

• Focus on less, work less, produce more

• It's about profit margins not sales

• Automate, delegate, eliminate

• KPIs

• Many small improvements lead to big changes

• Biggest obstacle

• Mindset

High performers don't succeed because they're rich and famous — they're rich and famous because of their habits. In this episode, we unpack the daily disciplines of leaders like LeBron James, Sarah Blakely, and Tim Cook. While their industries differ, their patterns don't. They prioritize sleep, movement, mental clarity, structured mornings, gratitude, and intentional family time. These aren't luxury routines. They're foundational disciplines that fuel long-term performance.

What stood out most is that none of them separate professional success from personal well-being. LeBron protects his identity beyond basketball. Sarah Blakely reframes failure and prioritizes playful connection at home. Tim Cook guards his mornings and simplifies his life to protect focus. Their habits are not about hustle — they're about alignment. They win the first hour of the day, rehearse mentally, recover intentionally, and protect their most important relationships.

For married entrepreneurs, the lesson is clear: success without health or connection is hollow. You don't have to sacrifice your marriage to scale your business. The same structure, boundaries, and intentionality that grow a company can strengthen your home. When your habits support both performance and relationships, you don't just build wealth — you build fulfillment. That's what it means to truly thrive in tandem.

• Success is built on daily discipline, not income level

• Win the first hour of your day before the world wins it for you

• Sleep and recovery are performance multipliers, not weaknesses

• Daily movement protects long-term energy and mobility

• Mental rehearsal and journaling create clarity and reduce chaos

• Gratitude shifts focus from pressure to perspective

• Normalize failure to remove fear and increase growth

• Protect family boundaries — achievement and connection must coexist

• Identity should never be tied solely to your business

• Thriving in tandem means succeeding at work and at home simultaneously

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our (audio) book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Download the 5 Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem https://marriedentrepreneur.co/5-daily-habits-download

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Imagine returning home after a hectic day at work, eagerly anticipating the warm embrace of your little girl, only to find her turning towards your spouse instead – a moment Tamra Andress vividly describes as her 'Tombstone moment.' It's a heart-wrenching realization that strikes at the core of one's identity.

You may have pondered the question: What would my Tombstone say when I'm gone? Typically, it revolves around being a loving spouse, parent, and friend. However, for Tamra, the harsh truth unfolded as she saw her role as a loving mother in jeopardy. Her daughter's choice to seek comfort elsewhere was a wake-up call that was a gut punch.

This episode captures the pivotal crossroads where Tamra recognized the need to shift her focus from the relentless pursuit of business success to nurturing her marriage and family. The fear that life would slip away, leaving her unloved and alone, became a compelling catalyst for change.

This narrative resonated with us and it will for you too. Take a moment to listen to this powerful episode – it's a poignant reminder not to take life for granted. 

Website https://tamraandress.com/ , www.fitinfaithmedia.com , https://fitinfaithmedia.com/millionaire-messenger

Book Always Becoming https://tamraandress.com/alwaysbecomingbook 

F.I.T. in Faith Podcast https://tamraandress.com/fit-in-faith-podcast/ 

Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/tamra.andress/

Key Takeaways:

• Succeeded professionally but wasn't truly happy

• My smile was a facade to hide the emptiness

• I felt I couldn't confide in my husband

• I had a Tombstone moment. I came home and my little girl ran to my husband instead of me. 

• Considered divorce and suicide even though I still loved my husband

• I was able to get healed and reset my life by getting help

• Realized part of the pain was suppressing the memory of being abused as a child

• Key to true happiness is stop being busy and minimize your life

Tamra Andress is a 6x #1 best-selling author (…and counting), a keynote speaker, and a top podcaster. She's a serial entrepreneur who works with high-capacity Christian leaders to become millionaire messengers and share the Good News. She is wildly in love with words and The Word! Through her publishing company, F.I.T. in Faith Press, she catalyzes messengers in the marketplace by building buisnesstry through publishing, podcasting, and platform development while keeping play at the core! Her non-profit, The Founder Collective, focuses on ordaining and sustaining marketplace ministers.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

In this episode, we're cutting through the noise and getting real. No matter how successful your business becomes, it won't guarantee happiness. It won't make your spouse love you more, improve your kids' behavior, or earn you genuine admiration.

We've seen too many marriages falter under the misconception that achievements lead to happiness. The truth is, happiness is a choice. If you want to cultivate a thriving marriage, raise a healthy family, and build a great business, you'll need to make intentional—and likely different—choices.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways:

• Our heart grieves

• Let's get real

• Happiness is a choice

• You can't ACHIEVE happiness

• We often get married on false pretenses

• He/she completes me. Makes me happy. Until the don't

• If I make a million dollars, If I get that car, If my business scales to…

• We work, we succeed, we accomplish. For what?

Whether you work with your spouse, are considering working with your spouse, or are saying to yourself "never" this episode is for you. Knowing how to recognize and utilize your spouse's gifts, talents, and abilities will help your business and enrich your marriage. 

In this episode, we interview Troy and Shantel Brooks, successful business owners and authors of the book 'Spartners: Discover the Value in Your Spouse as a Business Partner and Enrich Your Marriage.' They discuss the challenges and benefits of working together as a married couple, emphasizing the importance of finding and utilizing each other's strengths in the business. They share their personal journey of transitioning to working together and overcoming ego and resistance. The couple also highlights the significance of effective communication, conflict resolution, and prioritizing fun in maintaining a thriving marriage and business.

Connect with Troy and Shantel at www.troyandshantel.com or @wearespartners to stay updated on their latest ventures. 

Pre-order Spartners at www.spartnersbook.com and/or get connected with their community of like-minded couples looking to enrich their marriage at www.spartnersconnect.com.

Takeaways:

• Working with your spouse can magnify both strengths and conflicts in your relationship.

• Identify and utilize each other's strengths and talents in the business.

• Overcome ego and resistance to embrace partnership and mutual growth.

• Prioritize effective communication, conflict resolution, and fun in your marriage and business.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: Working with Your Spouse

01:00 Introducing Troy and Shantel Brooks

02:08 The Challenges and Benefits of Working Together

03:36 Transitioning to Working Together

04:01 Finding Strengths and Talents in the Business

06:18 Overcoming Ego and Embracing Partnership

07:08 Balancing Roles and Priorities

09:51 Fitting Strengths into the Business

12:08 Dealing with Challenges and Conflict

16:26 Navigating Challenges as Entrepreneurs

21:50 Effective Communication and Conflict Resolution

26:48 Prioritizing Fun and Enjoyment

31:42 Conclusion: Building a Thriving Marriage and Business

Troy & Shantel are the successful owners of The TB Effect, a faith-based company that specializes in Marriage Enrichment, Content Creation and Speaking based in Atlanta, GA. Recently, they embarked on a new journey as marriage enrichment non-fiction authors. Their entrepreneurial experience and extensive knowledge in marriage & business alignment have provided a rich foundation for their writing.

Their debut work, Spartners: Discover the Value in Your Spouse as a Business Partner and Enrich Your Marriage, explores the intricate world of love and business and the possibility of its fruitful and purposeful impact on your marriage. The book reflects Troy and Shantel's passion for living a purpose-filled life with their spouse and their commitment to building God's Kingdom through marriage.

When not managing their business or penning down their thoughts, Troy & Shantel enjoy being in the outdoors, staying active, and spending time with their sons Sage & Phoenix and miniature schnauzer, Avery.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Is it just me, or is building a business easier than growing your marriage? Let's put it this way: Are you more inclined to attend a business seminar or a marriage workshop? Would you rather see a marriage counselor or hire a business consultant?

For some reason, many of us prefer to work on our business rather than our marriage, so it's no wonder that many married entrepreneurs struggle with work-life balance. Entrepreneurs tend to give unequal attention to their business and their marriage. In this episode, we tackle the "why" and share our experiences in becoming more comfortable working on our marriage while building a business.

Want to live a better balanced life and win in marriage AND business at the same time? Purchase our book Tandem: The married entrepreneurs' guide for greater work-life balance. https://www.thetandembook.com/

Need to create more time to dedicate to your marriage? Download this free guide. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/boundaries

Need some insight into how to balance it all? Schedule a free discovery call. https://marriedentrepreneur.co/lets-talk

Key Takeaways:

• We will do anything to improve our business but not our marriage

• In business, we will

• Get consulting

• Attend seminars

• Run ideas by other business owners

• Spend more time

• Think and talk about it constantly

• Resolve problems

• In marriage, we will avoid

• Getting counseling

• Attend a marriage seminar

• Talk to a friend/mentor

• Spend more time at home

• Think and talk about it constantly with your spouse

• Avoid problems