Join BHSc Naturopaths, Julie Forrester and Karinda Maree, as they intellectually traverse the challenging waters of the natural medicine world. When it comes to health, the 'right' answers are often nuanced, unique and open-ended. Julie and Karinda are dedicated to dancing in these grey areas. Holistic medicine, clinical research, traditional remedies, naturopathy, the wellness industry, herbal medicine, nutrition, food as medicine, healthy lifestyles, biohacking, functional medicine, busting wellness myths plus tips, hints & hacks for your health - these two naturopaths will cover it all!
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Ep 60 I All About Functional Testing I Hormone, Stool, Genomic & Hair Testing for Complex Health Issues | Functional Testing in Naturopathy: When It Helps, When It’s Optional, and Why Context Matters
Monday, March 9, 2026 • Duration 41:13
Today we discuss the benefits and limits of functional testing, emphasizing patient-centred, tailored decisions rather than blanket protocols, especially given cost and the value of thorough history, case taking, and clinical exams. We explain that tests are snapshots in time, results can be delayed, and fundamentals like sleep, circadian rhythm, hydration, nutrition, and nervous system regulation can be addressed while waiting, noting some supplements and diet changes can skew results. We share examples where genomic testing clarified B-vitamin needs, and where hair mineral analysis plus gut and organic acids testing revealed toxic copper driving mineral transport issues. We contrast comprehensive testing with GP panels, detailing the DUTCH test’s broader hormone, metabolite, toxin, cortisol, and melatonin insights and the importance of timing hormone testing seven days post-ovulation. They also outline advanced stool testing methods and markers, discuss celiac-related findings, and frame genetic risk as modifiable by environment.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Why Functional Testing Matters
00:32 Test Don’t Guess Debate
02:23 Keeping Testing Patient Centered
04:03 What To Do While Waiting
05:48 When Patients Request Tests
07:43 Case Study Hair Minerals Copper
11:22 Avoiding Blanket Test Funnels
12:57 DUTCH Test vs Standard Hormones
15:58 Estrogen Metabolism and Risk
18:07 Timing Hormone Tests Right
19:52 Cycle Tracking and Perimenopause
21:00 Progesterone in Men
22:15 Advanced Stool Testing
23:05 Metagenomics and Cultures
25:21 Inflammation and Celiac Markers
27:09 Gluten and Autoimmunity
28:30 GP Tests vs Comprehensive Panels
29:11 Parasites Candida and Terrain
31:51 Health Focused Genomics
35:30 Methylation and Fertility Risk
36:22 Genes Environment and Wrap Up
39:37 Podcast Outro and Events
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DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
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The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
Ep 59 I Testing 101 I The Pros & Cons of Blood Tests, Bone Scans & More | Getting Accurate Blood Tests | How Naturopaths Look at Blood Tests Differently
Tuesday, March 3, 2026 • Duration 40:12
Julie and Karinda explain how many GPs primarily flag only results outside reference ranges to identify frank disease states, while they also use functional/optimal ranges and compare multiple markers over time using historical results to spot trends and support prevention. They outline practical factors that can skew blood tests—fasting too long (aim ~10 hours; avoid >12), exercising (even up to 48 hours prior), stress, illness/recovery, dehydration, and timing/queues — encouraging consistency across tests, including seasonality. They discuss Australia’s Medicare limits influencing GP test ordering and note naturopaths can arrange private tests. Other GP-aligned testing covered includes coronary artery calcium scoring for cardiovascular risk and DEXA/bone testing (including an ultrasound option with fragility scoring), plus concerns about medication side effects and interactions.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Menopause Real Talk
00:50 Welcome and Topic Setup
02:15 How Doctors Read Bloods
04:27 Blood Tests Are Snapshots
06:12 Fasting Done Right
07:45 Exercise and Other Confounders
11:10 Hydration and Needle Tips
13:07 Timing Your Lab Visit
15:04 After Dinner Snack Hack
17:26 Naturopathic Functional Ranges
18:55 Functional Ranges Explained
20:37 Tracking Trends Over Time
22:11 Standardizing Test Conditions
24:13 Skewed Reference Ranges
27:40 GP Limits and Medicare Rules
29:45 Private Testing Options
32:02 Heart Risk Calcium Score
36:09 Bone Density and Fragility
Ep 50 | Understanding Lipedema: Symptoms, Causes, and Naturopathic Treatments | Lipedema vs. Lymphedema
Saturday, June 14, 2025 • Duration 01:21:02
In this episode of the Nuanced Naturopaths, we explore the often misunderstood condition of lipedema. We discuss its symptoms, how it differs from lymphedema (which it's often confused with) and the importance of hormones, especially estrogen, in its development. We highlight the role of chronic inflammation, the unique characteristics of lipedema fat, and how it resists conventional weight loss methods. Plus, we delve into holistic, naturopathic treatments, including diet, herbal remedies, stress management, and the critical role of circadian rhythm (surprise, surprise!) in managing this condition.
Ep 48 | Mouth Taping Deep Dive | The Science, Why & How of Mouth Taping | Natural Remedies for Better Sleep
Monday, May 5, 2025 • Duration 50:42
*CORRECTION: At 18:59, we start talking about nasal "turbicles". We say this word a lot. We get excited, and even question if "turbicles" is the right word, before agreeing that it's the right word, and carrying on. Future editing Karinda realises we in fact meant to say "nasal turbinates" - not turbicles. Turbicles aren't a thing. You're cordially invited to laugh at our mistake. You can suss out what these look like and their function here
IN THIS EP:
We dive deep into the practice of mouth taping and its impressive benefits for sleep quality and overall health. We go through our personal experiences with mouth taping, different types of tapes, and address common concerns and misconceptions (we get it, it seems odd at first, or scary at most!). Let's explore the link between nasal breathing, nitric oxide production, and improved oxygenation and recovery, and how mouth taping can aid in reducing snoring and sleep apnea. As always, you'll get a mix of science, personal anecdotes, tidbits of advice and a good ole laugh.
We also recommend a petroleum-free, natural lip balm to apply before popping on your tape, so it's easier to remove in the morning. Be careful not to use too much
Ep 47 | Exploring Your SKIN Biome: Body Odour, Ear Wax & Why Mosquitos Are More Attracted To YOU!
Friday, March 21, 2025 • Duration 45:27
We delve into what the skin biome actually is (a whole community living on/in/around our skin!), how a child's microbiome is influenced by birth and breastfeeding. Plus, fascinating insights on how genes influence ear wax and body odor. We also cover how deodorants and antiperspirants can impact skin microbes and finally, why some people are more attractive to mosquitoes than others, linking it to skin microbe-induced kairomones.
Ep 46 | Deeper Dive into Paracetamol Side Effects | Getting to the Root Cause of Your Pain
Monday, February 24, 2025 • Duration 28:57
Join Karinda and Julie as they delve into the complexities and misconceptions surrounding the popular pain reliever paracetamol (acetaminophen). Responding to insights from Professor Kerry Bone, they discuss the potential side effects and risks associated with paracetamol, especially when used long-term. The conversation highlights the importance of questioning mainstream medical advice and considering holistic approaches to managing pain.
Watch now to learn more about the nuanced impacts of paracetamol and alternative pain management strategies.
TIME STAMPS
00:50 Discussing Paracetamol and Side Effects
03:45 New Study on Paracetamol Risks
04:55 Perceived Safety vs. Actual Risks
11:06 Holistic Approaches to Pain Management
21:47 Challenges in Medication Management
25:48 Conclusion and Call to Action
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Ep 45 | Quantum Biology with an expert, Carrie B! | Light, water, mitochondria & more
Thursday, February 6, 2025 • Duration 53:12
An international guest! The amazing Carrie Bennett joins Julie to talk about all things Applied Quantum Biology - the intersection between light and water in the body. Learn the myriad ways in which getting a little sun can improve every aspect of health. Hear many fun facts about light frequencies, the importance of the structure of water in our body, vibrations and electron transfers. Carrie is sure to illuminate your world & refresh your perspective on health and healing your body!
About Carrie Bennett, MS
With multiple degrees in biology, nutrition, and bodywork, Carrie's relentless enthusiasm to learn has made her one of the leading educators in the emerging field of quantum biology. She combines deep research and clear explanations of the complex quantum mechanisms at play in the human body to teach people how to use light, water, and nature to thrive. Carrie is a sought-after speaker and guest lecturer. She currently sees clients in her online practice. She is also the lead faculty member and on the Board of Advisors for the Quantum Biology Collective, the world’s premier certification for Applied Quantum Biology in clinical practice.
Ep 44 | The Nuance of Side Effects | Is Vitamin B6 Dangerous?! | Re-Thinking Panadol Use + more
Friday, January 31, 2025 • Duration 58:27
One thing that drugs, supplements & herbal medicines have in common is that they can produce undesired outcomes, also known as side effects. But what are side effects, really? And why do they occur? We get knee-deep in nuance in this ep, also covering the recent Vitamin B6 toxicity controversy and a big (but often overlooked) problem with our nation’s beloved Panadol (paracetamol). Welcome back!
DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
39:20 Part Two Teaser Wrap
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DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
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The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
45:51 Hormonal Influence on Lipedema
55:37 Differences Between Lipedema Fat and Regular Fat
01:04:04 Naturopathic Treatment Strategies for Lipedema
01:08:51 Circadian Rhythm and Insulin Resistance
01:16:06 Conclusion and Support Resources
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Reach out to the Nuanced Naturopaths here! Send us your feedback, questions & episode requests.
DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
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The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
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The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
02:43 Health Benefits of Jamu
06:45 Mouth Taping: An Unconventional Sleep Hack
08:17 The Science Behind Mouth Taping
13:14 Practical Tips and Personal Experiences
25:27 Nose Breathing and Nitric Oxide
25:59 Diaphragmatic Breathing and Vagus Nerve
27:16 Turmeric and Vagus Nerve Activation
27:38 Breathing Techniques for Calmness
28:32 Nasal Breathing for Athletic Performance
30:40 Mouth Taping Methods and Recommendations
31:26 Mouth Taping Experiences and Tips
35:00 Mouth Taping for Snoring and Sleep Apnea
38:01 Glymphatic System and Sleep
40:14 Mouth Taping Products and Environmental Considerations
49:12 Final Thoughts and Listener Engagement
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DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
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DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
DISCLAIMER FOR PUBLIC: The contents of this podcast or any information mentioned is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. If you're seeking assistance with your health, please contact an accredited healthcare professional. If you'd like personalised support with your health, you can book a session with Julie or Karinda using the links above.
DISCLAIMER FOR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS: The content provided is intended for entertainment and educational purposes. The information discussed in this podcast is not a substitute for professional training. While the authors/hosts make every effort to provide the most up-to-date data and evidence on naturopathic information, this content should not necessarily be considered standard of care and may not reflect individual practices within or outside of Australia.
The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
The Nuanced Naturopaths Podcast is a friendly conversation between two friends, us! Karinda and Julie. We’re passionate about finding the nuance in natural health. As degree-qualified naturopaths, we like to ask the questions that need to be asked - about all aspects of health, healing and well-being. We delight in questioning firmly held beliefs and finding the nuance in all subjects health-related and beyond. Sometimes it can get a little technical, but hopefully we explain things in a way that's accessible to anyone interested in natural health, whether you’re a practitioner or someone who wants to learn more and optimise your wellbeing. It’s a chat about poop, periods and everything in between - buckle up for a laugh, a cry and for some things you are yet to consider about your health! Stay nuanced!
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