The Mission Matters – Details, episodes & analysis

In this episode of the Mission Matters Podcast, hosts Matthew Ellison and Ted Esler welcome Dr. Matthew Elliott, President of Oasis International and publisher of the Africa Study Bible. Elliott shares his journey from serving with George Verwer to leading Oasis International, a ministry devoted to contextualizing discipleship resources for Africa. With over 350 contributors from 50 countries, the Africa Study Bible was designed to address the reality that over 80% of pastors in Africa lack formal training and access to solid biblical resources.

Elliott explains how cultural disconnects (e.g. pastors using Western illustrations they’ve never experienced) underscore the urgent need for biblically sound, culturally relevant tools for leaders across the continent.
The conversation explores “Bible poverty,” not merely as a lack of translation into heart languages, but as a growing crisis where millions of students are being taught the Bible in English without access to a physical copy. Elliott challenges the status quo of “toxic Bible charity,” advocating instead for building sustainable, local economic infrastructure that allows Africans to access affordable, printed Bibles. He also reflects on how African theologians and pastors offer the global church vital insights into community, generosity, and a more culturally attuned reading of Scripture. 
The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

This episode of The Mission Matters podcast features a conversation between Ted Esler, Matthew Ellison, and guest Steve Leston, focusing on the topic of "church-centric missions." The discussion stems from a popular Substack post Ted wrote that ignited dialogue about the role of the local church in global missions.

Steve shares his personal journey, describing his early passion for the church and how his experience in the military shaped his perspective on discipleship and training. He recounts how the church he attended embraced a church-centric model that sought to train, disciple, and send missionaries directly.

This was initially inspiring but later exposed challenges when church leadership transitions and financial issues left missionaries unsupported. Steve started to recognize the vital role that mission agencies play in providing structure, expertise, and sustainability for long-term missionary work.

Both local churches and mission agencies have important, complementary roles in fulfilling the Great Commission. Steve, now at To Every Tribe, explains their intentional approach: partnering with churches so that the church affirms and releases missionaries, while agencies facilitate and support them in the field.

Matthew and Ted reflect on how this partnership approach has matured over the decades, avoiding extremes where either churches or agencies attempt to "own" missions exclusively. They discuss how the complexities of global missions today require both theological clarity and practical expertise, underscoring that missionary sending should be a relational, collaborative endeavor that honors God, supports missionaries well, and recognizes the diverse gifts required to reach unreached peoples.

The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

How are American Christians thinking about engaging non-Christians in the United States? According to recent Barna research there are 60 to 80 million Americans who don't fit the paradigm that a lot of Christians have about those outside of the church. They are not really hostile to discussions about faith and spirituality and are actually spiritually curious at the right moments.

Join Ted Esler's conversation with Mark Matlock, the Executive Director of the Urbana Student Missions Conference and also author of Faith for the Curious: How an Era of Spiritual Openness Shapes the Way We Live and Help Others Follow Jesus. 
Mark Matlock is a facilitator of innovation and impact, helping organizations adapt to changing times through turning research based insights into action. The founder of WisdomWorks LLC a consultancy helping churches and faith-based organizations leverage their collective wisdom and insight to innovate and adapt in changing times. Mark also works with Barna to assist clients with board training and on-site facilitation of research findings. 
Mark has been an advisor to organizations such as the Seed Company, Youth Specialties, Young Life, Awana, Brotherhood Mutual, Movement.org, BetterMan and has served as a board member of the American Bible Society. 
Mark is the author of more than 20 books for teens and parents, and in 2019 co-authored Faith for Exiles: Five Ways for a New Generation to Follow Jesus in Digital Babylon with Barna Group President David Kinnaman. Having initiated many research projects with Barna over the last two decades related to Next Gen studies, Mark’s research continues to provide insights into emerging generations and how to cultivate faithful disciples.
Mark is an ordained minister, certified LifePLanner, LEGO Serious Play facilitator, and MCORE trainer and coach. Mark is also certified as a HopIn online platform agency. He’s been married for 30 years to his wife Jade. They have two adult children.
The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.
https://www.amazon.com/Faith-Curious-Spiritual-Openness-Shapes/dp/0801018714
https://www.urbana.org/

It’s easy to fall into the trap of doing things the same way they've always been done. After fifteen years as the missions pastor of a large church, Larrie Fraley began to reevaluate their missions strategy. He realized that there must be a better way to steward God's resources. What were the pivotal moments in his journey of rediscovering missions, and where does the church stand now? Tune in as Ted and Matthew delve into Larrie's story.
Larrie is Lead Global Outreach Pastor at Christ's Church of the Valley in Peoria, Arizona. Married to Sheila, two daughters, and seven grandchildren, and will celebrate 55 years of marriage in 2025. One of the four founding officers of Christ’s Church of the Valley (CCV), Peoria, Arizona. CCV was founded in April 1982 with over 52,000 in weekend attendance. 
 
Larrie was an executive at Intel Corporation for 19 years as a director in Intel’s Information Technology Division. Responsible for managing Intel's Information Technology Centers around the world.
He's founder and current President of STARS Youth Sports, Inc., which started in 2004, now has over 15,000 youth players annually, with over 1,000 coaches and 45% non-CCV attendees. Also Larrie is founder and past president of Streetlight. Streetlight’s mission is to eradicate child sex slavery. 
 
Larrie is currently a PhD Student at the University of Bucharest and host and producer of the Let's Go 360 podcast. https://www.letsgo360.org/
The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

What happens when a group of ministry- and mission-minded men decide that they want  more than a social gathering and want to change the world? The G6 World Changers in Scottsdale, AZ come together with intentionality - to know each other better as well as each other's passions. One outcome is that they support worthy organizations together through finances and any other gifts members bring to the table. But it's all driven by a passion to be involved in spreading God's word and in sharing the generosity that God gives to us with others. 
Listen in as Ted Esler and Matthew Ellison talk with Bob Smith who unofficially represents the G6 World Changers - a giving circle. Bob gives insight into how the group functions and what types of projects they support. 
Bob Smith is a senior executive, general counsel, strategic advisor, manager and leader of large-scale transactions. A trusted advisor to Boards of Directors and senior corporate leadership teams and a recognized corporate governance expert, he also serves as director on a public company board. His experience spans public company spin-offs, major litigation, significant regulatory strategy, and building high-performing legal teams. 
His ability to deliver outstanding value by providing clear communication, sound advice, and innovative and effective results across the full range of critical business and legal challenges has enriched all his work. As a testament to his reputation for wisdom, he has even advised Congress in the creation of national policy. As Senior Vice President and General Counsel for the Columbia Pipeline Group, Inc. (now TransCanada Corp.), Bob served as a member of the Executive Council and Benefits and Risk Management committees. He was also a member of Columbia’s Foundation and a Board member of Columbia Pipeline Partners, Ltd. (CPPL). 
He serves on the Board of Trustees of the El Faro Ephraim Foundation, which supports training and compassion efforts in Guatemala. He served as the interim president of Global Action from 2017-2018.
The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

How should an American Jesus follower view attempts by other Christians to enter the United States? Immigration is a contentious issue in our politics and culture in 2025.  What should the church's attitude be toward people who are suffering, hurting, and fleeing persecution or even economic challenges? Guest Steve Moore gives his take on the current immigration crisis with Ted Esler in this episode of The Mission Matters.

Steve Moore is the president of nextleader and Hold the Rope. At nexleader Steve gives leadership to a growing network of over 250 coaches who use the Identity Profile Self-Awareness Tool (IPSAT) to help people discover, optimize, and unleash their God-given potential. At Hold the Rope, he leads a startup initiative focused on helping Jesus-followers understand how God is at work around the world, the scope of the task that remains and how anyone can be involved.
From 2006-2015, Steve served as the president and CEO of Missio Nexus, the largest network of Great Commission-oriented evangelicals in North America, representing churches, organizations and training institutions that send missionaries to nearly every country.
Steve has provided leadership for teams serving in Europe, Asia, Africa, South America and the Caribbean. He served on the board of World Relief and on the National Association of Evangelicals for eighteen years.
Steve attended Kingswood University before pursuing graduate studies at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he earned a Master of Arts in Intercultural Studies with a leadership concentration. Kingswood University recognized Steve with a D. Div. in 2012.
He is the author of six book, including The Top 10 Leadership Conversations in the Bible: Practical Insights from Extensive Research on over 1,000 Biblical Leaders, and most recently, Grow Toward Your Dreams: Practical Steps to Discover, Optimize and Unleash Your Potential.Steve and his wife Sherry have four adult children and live near Atlanta, Georgia.http://www.nexleader.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠

https://www.amazon.com/Who-My-Neighbor-Samaritan-Connected/dp/1615217231⁠

The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

Are there unchurched and unreached peoples who might be missed by current methodologies and mindsets? Is innovation in church and missions primarily a process that has to do with ideas/technologies/tools/methods or does it reside in something else that God gifts us with?  Pioneering isn’t easy - the Church needs better pathways to nurture ideas, support innovators, and build collaborative movements for the challenges of our time. Tyler Prieb founded Missional Labs to help bring a startup mentality to individuals and teams working on new projects that go after Great Commission impact.
Join Ted Esler and Matthew Ellison as they engage Tyler on the need for a renewed imagination in our evolving church and missions fields. 
Tyler is the Founder & Executive Director of Missional Labs (https://missionallabs.co/), a venture group investing in the frontiers of 21st-century mission. He was previously Chief of Staff at Church of the City New York in Manhattan, and has worked for multiple leading organizations across church planting, leadership training, entrepreneurship, innovation, and global mission.  He’s worked with leaders in over 50 countries, and was named a young leader for the Lausanne movement in 2016. 

He’s pursuing a Doctor of Missiology (in progress), and holds an MA in Theology (RTS) and a BA in Economics and Humanities (Azusa Pacific University).  His focus is on the intersection of innovation and missiology. 
He loves coffee, reading, and travel, and lives in Nashville with his wife Melany and daughter Penny.
The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

Research (Dr. Elliot Stephens) has shown that there are three factors that affect attrition on the mission field: interpersonal skills, ministry competency and spiritual formation. Agencies can train for skills, but it's these softer skills that are often neglected at higher levels of Christian education. Ed Scheuerman built his program at Lancaster Bible College largely in response to this research. Listen in as Ted Esler, Matthew Ellison, and Ed Scheuerman discuss trends in higher Christian education as it relates to missions and mentoring the current generation of students. After getting his BA in Philosophy (with an emphasis in Religious Studies) from West Chester University (PA), Ed completed one year of formal Bible training, taking 42 hours of Bible and Missions classes at Tennessee Temple University in 1985. In 1986, he completed his MA in TESL from WCU. In December 2007, he completed his Doctorate of Missiology degree from Biola University. He was ordained by Calvary Bible Church in Hanover, PA. Ed and his wife Carol served with PIONEERS, International, in Southeast Asia for 23 years. They served in China for nearly seven years (starting in 1987), teaching and ministering at a university. Their work was primarily with their students, discipling those who came to faith. They were then based in Hong Kong for four years (1994-1998) as a support link to the in-China team. In 1997, Ed was asked to assume the role of Area Leader for South Asia / Mainland Southeast Asia (shepherding the teams from Vietnam to India). The family relocated to Chiang Mai, Thailand. The Area Leader role was primarily a pastoral role, shepherding church planting teams. While there, Ed also became involved in various member care ministries. In May 2010, Ed was recruited by Lancaster Bible College to be the Coordinator of the Intercultural Studies major. His book, Knowing God to Make Him Known: Living out the Attributes of God Cross-Culturally” was published in 2021 and is used by churches and missions agencies to help train potential missionaries. His passion is to help students find and follow God’s call for their lives in the cause for world missions. The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

Immigration is not a new topic, but its place in a global missions worldview comes to the forefront due to politics in the USA. What role does the movement of peoples have in the making of disciples in all nations? Is it Biblical or moral to have borders and to restrict immigration? How should a Christian engage illegal immigrants? Guest Alex Kocman addresses these questions and more in a conversation with Matthew Ellison and Ted Esler in this episode of The Mission Matters. Alex received his M.A. in Media and Communication Studies and B.S. in Biblical Studies through Liberty University. He now serves as Director of Communications and Engagement for ABWE (http://www.abwe.org/), a theologically conservative, church planting missions agency with about 1,000 missionaries reaching nearly 90 countries. Since 2017, he has cohosted The Missions Podcast (https://missionspodcast.com/) with Scott Dunford, interviewing notable guests across the evangelical and missiological worlds. Alex is an author, and his new book, Striving for the Faith: A Journey Through Philippians for Life on Mission (Founders Press), is now available (https://press.founders.org/shop/striving-for-the-faith/) for preorder and slated for release February 2025. He resides with his wife and four children in York, Pennsylvania, where he spends his free time studying theology, weightlifting, and nursing a heavy coffee addiction. He adheres to the 1689 London Baptist Confession and serves as an elder at Faith Bible Fellowship Church, where he leads the missions team and serves as director of communications and worship.

In a recent survey (to be published in 2025, stay tuned) of pastors, those with seminary or divinity school degrees were significantly more likely to report passion for those in their community and little toward cross-cultural work or missionaries. Is this the result of a marginalization of missions in theological education? If so, how can seminary education be refined to present missions as worthy of a pastor's or church's passion? Matthew and Ted seek answers with J. D. Payne who serves as professor of Christian Ministry at Samford University.
https://www.jdpayne.org/about/
The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.