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| The Power Of Quitting Biglaw To Pursue A Childhood Dream with Jiadai Lin - Episode 178 | 03 Sep 2024 | 00:24:26 | |
Kathryn Rubino chats with Jiadai Lin, author and winner of the Sandra Carpenter Prize for Creative Nonfiction. Discover Jiadai’s journey from big law to heartfelt storytelling, balancing law and literature with grace. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation on following your true passion! Highlights
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| Biglaw Firm Steps Up Big In Pro Bono with Rachel Elkin - Episode 177 | 27 Aug 2024 | 00:25:14 | |
Join host Kathryn Rubino who chats with Rachel Elkin, Pro Bono Counsel at Haynes Boone. Discover Rachel’s journey from a family of lawyers to championing public interest work and navigating her unexpected transition into Big Law. Gain insights on the rewarding and challenging aspects of pro bono work and how it shapes careers and communities. A must-listen for legal enthusiasts and those inspired by impactful lawyering. Highlights
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| The Path To In-House with Dina Segal - Episode 168 | 29 Mar 2024 | 00:22:59 | |
In this episode, Kathryn interviews Dina Segal, the Chief Legal Officer at Gusto, and discusses her personal and professional journey including her transition from a big law firm to an in-house counsel position and her experiences as a working mother. She speaks about the Lexis Plus platform's innovative Judicial Brief Analysis tool and highlights the importance of understanding the business, building trust, and creating impactful solutions. Dina, a board member of the SunLaw Group, which supports women in-house counsel, also talks about the challenges faced by women in the legal profession. Dina emphasizes work-life balance and advises against measuring balance on a day-to-day basis. She promotes mental health awareness in the legal industry and encourages self-forgiveness on tough days.
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| It's All About the Money with Betiayn Tursi - Episode 78 | 24 Sep 2021 | 00:26:43 | |
When it comes to being a lawyer, what are the adversaries and challenges that you might face? In this episode, Kathryn welcomes Betiayn as she shares the twists and turns of her career that got her to where she is today. Betiayn talks about how the legal industry has evolved, particularly in respect to diversity, during the course of her career. They also discuss what led up to the founding of WILEF and the work she's most proud of. Betiayn also shares about why WILEF decided to change the Gold Standard criteria, and the main takeaways from the most recent Gold Standard List. She gives her thoughts on the most important diversity benchmarks for the profession.
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| It's Been Quite The Year For Business Interruption Insurance -- Just Ask This Biglaw Partner with Linda Kornfeld - Episode 77 | 17 Sep 2021 | 00:27:42 | |
Building a career in the law field can be both challenging and rewarding: Especially if your field of interest is uncommon. In today’s episode, Kathryn interviews Linda Kornfeld. Linda shares why she attended law school and how she landed in her practice area: As an Insurance Recovery Attorney. She also gives advice for others who are looking for their career niche, as well as her experiences with business interruption insurance over the past year and what Biglaw can do to foster diversity.
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| Biglaw Document Review Is The Perfect Backdrop For A Legal Thriller with Lindsay Cameron - Episode 76 | 10 Sep 2021 | 00:26:43 | |
Is having a law degree a great tool that opens up a lot of doors and opportunities? In this episode, Kathryn welcomes Lindsay to discuss her pivot to writing from her career in law. They discuss her process of writing her second novel and how different it is from the process of her first book. Lindsay also shares her advice for lawyers and legal professionals who are looking to break into writing.
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| An Outsider's Perspective on the Legal industry with Ritu Khanna - Episode 75 | 03 Sep 2021 | 00:27:14 | |
Can someone who’s not a lawyer get involved in the legal industry? In this episode, Kathryn and Ritu discussed the twists and turns of Ritu’s career which led her to her current role in the male-dominated space of the legal industry. Ritu spoke about whether she ever felt her accomplishments were undermined because of her race or gender and how she dealt with those feelings. She also shared her advice for others who are coming up in white or male spaces as well as her perspective on the legal industry.
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| The History of Female Law Professors with Patricia Cain - Episode 74 | 27 Aug 2021 | 00:26:25 | |
Kathryn interviews Patricia Cain, one of the authors of Paving the Way, about the twists and turns of her life and career: from going to law school, being part of a circus troupe to starting a career in the legal academia. Patricia highlights her experiences not only as a teacher but also her experiences in law school. She also shared the best lessons she learned, especially for those who want to start a life in legal academia.
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| How a Partner's Fear of Flying Turned Into a Legacy for His Children with Mark Hsu - Episode 73 | 20 Aug 2021 | 00:28:16 | |
Kathryn spoke with Mark Hsu about his experiences as a lawyer, author, and father. They also discussed how Mark drew a line and a balance between legal practice and parenthood. Additionally, they talked about some of the challenges that Mark faced while starting as a lawyer up to creating different lessons for his book that he can pass down to his children.
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| The Supreme Court's Legacy On Race with Vernon Burton and Armand Derfner - Episode 72 | 13 Aug 2021 | 00:37:25 | |
I spoke with Vernon and Armand about the initiation of their partnership and writing a book together for both a general audience and for lawyers. We discussed why they chose the Supreme Court as the lens to examine racial justice in this country, and why it is important in the current political climate to examine the Court's history on racial justice. We spoke about their research process and surprising or unexpected findings.
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| The Problem With Identity Capitalists with Nancy Leong - Episode 71 | 06 Aug 2021 | 00:32:36 | |
Kathryn spoke with Nancy Leong about why she went to law school, and the career twists and turns that resulted in her winding up where she is. They also discussed how she came up with the term “identity capitalist”, and the personal anecdotes included in her book. They also spoke about hidden in-group agendas and strategies she recommends for those in out-groups.
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| Who in Biglaw is Most Excited to Go Back to the Office? with Stacey Breen - Episode 70 | 30 Jul 2021 | 00:25:23 | |
Stacey speaks with Stacey Breen about the twists and turns of her career that led her to her role at MLA, and the motivation behind their recent Return to Office Survey. They discussed the most surprising results of the survey, including generational differences in pandemic experiences. Additionally, they spoke of some of the challenges women faced during COVID and what the industry can do to fix them as we return to the office.
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| Best Friends and Firm Co-Founders On the Best Way to Run a Virtual Practice with Kelly Culhane and Heather Clauson Haughian - Episode 69 | 23 Jul 2021 | 00:26:42 | |
Kathryn spoke with Kelly and Heather about the process of opening up their own firm, and the values they believe to be the most important when establishing a practice. They also discussed the particular benefits and challenges of being best friends and business partners, as well as the biggest changes to their firm due to COVID. They also spoke about tips for practicing law virtually.
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| A Work Partnership Makes All The Difference with Cara Bain and Allison Rosner - Episode 167 | 22 Mar 2024 | 00:24:31 | |
In this episode, directors Cara Bain and Allison Rosner from Major Lindsay in Africa discussed the trajectory of their legal careers and the importance of workplace partnerships. While detailing their unique career paths, they stressed the benefits of diverse backgrounds and perspectives in enhancing team performance. They encouraged listeners to be receptive to diverse opportunities, stay proactive, and be open-minded in their careers. Highlights
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| How Women Can Use Networking to Leverage the Hot Lateral Market with Lauren Drake - Episode 68 | 16 Jul 2021 | 00:26:59 | |
Kathryn interviewed Lauren Drake where they discussed, among other things, how her career evolved to her position at Macrae. They talked about how the "Female Law Firm Leaders Roundtable" got started and how the pandemic shaped that launch. They also discussed how FLFL benefits its members and issues tackled by the roundtable over the last year. Additionally, they dive into how women leaders can leverage the hot lateral market to benefit their careers.
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| What Students Absolutely Need to Do to Ace Law School with Shailini George - Episode 67 | 09 Jul 2021 | 00:25:01 | |
Kathryn interviewed Shailini George about her experiences as a legal writing professor and the process of writing The Law Students' Guide to Doing Well and Being Well. They also discuss how distraction addiction became an interest for her. Their conversation includes Shailini's thoughts on how law students should use wellness practices to improve their law school experience, as well as some tips for law students to get into the studying zone.
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| Why Saying “No” to Business Can Actually Pay Off with Thomas Douglas - Episode 66 | 02 Jul 2021 | 00:27:07 | |
Kathryn interviewed Thomas Douglas about his role as a community and industry leader. They discuss the process of opening his own firm, as well as the biggest challenges and rewards of that experience. They also chat about how to create a tolerant and affirming law firm culture. Additionally, they speak about balancing the pressures of the business side of the firm with the legal practice.
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| What Law Firms Need to Do to Support New Parents with Elle McCulty - Episode 65 | 25 Jun 2021 | 00:26:19 | |
Kathryn chats with Elle McCulty, partner at Waller Law and chair of the firm's Women's Leadership Council. They discuss balancing firm leadership with her practice, the programs the Council implemented, the firm's recognition by Working Mother magazine, and how the firm supports the re-entry of new parents into firm life. They also talk about why it is important for firms to make a concerted effort to support parents in the workplace and advice younger attorneys trying to have it all.
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| Inside the World Of Biglaw Diversity Efforts with Maria Melendez - Episode 64 | 18 Jun 2021 | 00:26:19 | |
Kathryn talks with Maria Melendez about why she Ieft the practice of law to become Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer at Sidley. They chat about the unique challenges in this role and how she leverages her past experience. They discuss setting goals and benchmarks in the D&I space, the kinds of programs that pay the biggest dividends in the D&I world, and how a firm encourages attorneys to participate in D&I efforts, particularly during a pandemic when attorneys are already stretched thin.
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| From Biglaw to Criminal Justice Reform with MiAngel Cody - Episode 63 | 11 Jun 2021 | 00:30:09 | |
MiAngel Cody and Kathryn chat about her passion for criminal defense work and the problems with the three-strikes law. They talk about the role of social media and Kim Kardashian in justice work, about how the #90DaysOfFreedom Campaign got started, and why The Decarceration Collective is so important. MiAngel has been labeled a "Legal Legend" a "Changemaker" and a "Powerhouse Litigator" and it turns out she's great at giving advice to lawyers who are getting started in their careers and want to work on reform issues. They chat about the successes she's had in this work and also the setbacks. MiAngel also describes how she balances the work with her personal life and recharges so she's able to take on the next fight.
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| Access to Justice in More Than Just the Criminal Context with Jennifer McGlone - Episode 62 | 04 Jun 2021 | 00:24:04 | |
Kathryn speaks with Jennifer McGlone, co-founder of Law Champs. They chat about why she decided to start the organization, how that experience was impacted by the pandemic and the goals of Law Champs. They also discuss the Biden administration's recent change in transgender healthcare protections and what that means for folks on the ground and why they’re so important.
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| Making the Most of Your Working From Home Legal Practice with Becky Greenfield and Cristina Rodriguez - Episode 61 | 28 May 2021 | 00:25:56 | |
Kathryn talks with Becky Greenfield and Cristina Rodriguez of Wolfe Pincavage about the new normal -- working from home. They chat about how WFH has changed the way you practice and to figure out how to grow professionally in the virtual environment, and how business development plays a role in that. They discuss what firm leaders can do to better mentor team members and foster collaborative environments.
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| A Biglaw Firm That Really Cares with Katya Jestin and Randy Mehrberg - Episode 60 | 21 May 2021 | 00:26:00 | |
Kathryn chats with Jenner & Block’s Co-Managing Partners, Katya Jestin, and Randy Mehrberg. They discuss their overall philosophy for managing a Biglaw firm, prioritizing diversity, the challenges in trying to create a unified culture across a giant firm, and how the pandemic heightened those issues. They also talk about Jenner & Block representation of Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight Action and the need to modernize the Voting Rights Act.
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| Making Lasting Changes in the Legal Industry with Sona Pancholy - Episode 59 | 14 May 2021 | 00:28:00 | |
Kathryn talks with Sona Pancholy, president of Meritas about the twists and turns of her career that took her to Meritas. They also talk about her goals as president and how she leverages her own personal story in achieving it. Also, they discuss the recently launched Black Lawyers Forum and Women’s Leadership Congress and why that was such a priority in the wake of the murder of George Floyd.
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| How To Go From Just A Lawyer To A Rainmaker with Sejal Patel - Episode 166 | 23 Feb 2024 | 00:23:16 | |
In this episode, Kathryn interviewed Sejal Patel from Sage Ivy Consulting. Sejal traces her unique career from law to consulting, emphasizing that law schools should better guide students about alternative legal careers and business development. She suggests young lawyers maintain their professional relationships from law school, cultivate new ones through LinkedIn and conferences, and develop friendships with clients. Together with Kathryn, they stress the importance of early start in professional networking and continuous learning for a successful career. Highlights
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| Bridging the Diversity Gap in the Legal Profession with Brandi Russell - Episode 58 | 07 May 2021 | 00:27:12 | |
Kathryn talks with Brandi Russell, Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer at Balch & Bingham about her new position and how her career has twisted to bring her here. They also talk about the goals and benchmarks for the firm and two D&I initiatives the firm is passionate about -- the Balch Business Boost and Susan B Livingston Boot Camp. They discuss how to sell the ROI on diversity for those that may take a more lukewarm approach and how to bridge the gap between diversity efforts in law schools and law firms.
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| The Life and Legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Amanda Tyler - Episode 57 | 30 Apr 2021 | 00:25:44 | |
Kathryn is joined by Berkeley Law Professor Amanda L. Tyler. She’s also a former clerk of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the co-author of the Justice’s final book JUSTICE, JUSTICE THOU SHALT PURSUE: A Life's Work Fighting for a More Perfect Union. They discuss how Amanda went from clerk to writing this book with Justice Ginsburg. They dive into the book as Justice Ginsburg's final work, and how it frames her legacy. They talk about Justice Ginsburg's penchant for writing powerful dissents and what RBG's perspective was on that. They chat about what it was like working with Justice Ginsburg and how clerking was different than putting the book together.
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| Making Diversity Part of the Fabric of Your Law Firm with Kerry Shad and Sharita Whitaker - Episode 56 | 23 Apr 2021 | 00:33:39 | |
Kathryn talks with Kerry Shad and Sharita Whitaker, both partners at Smith Anderson. They talked about why they went to law school in the first place and how they found the practice areas that are right for them. They also get into Diversity & Inclusion nitty gritty like what D&I means to them, what D&I initiatives are necessary for law firms, the advantages of D&I programs in mid-sized firms compared to Biglaw, the impact of D&I on recruiting efforts, and how recruiting efforts compare to retention efforts. Also, they discuss how they balance the D&I efforts and firm management generally with their legal practices.
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| Creating Space In Male Dominated Fields with Jacqueline Duval - Episode 55 | 16 Apr 2021 | 00:30:15 | |
Kathryn is joined by Jacqueline Duval, a Partner with New York-based law firm Herrick, Feinstein’s Tax Department, and the leader of the firm’s Family Office group. They talk about why she went to law school in the first place, how she settled on tax law as a specialty. Jacqueline also has advice for associates trying to figure out their ideal practice area. They also talk about the twists in her career before achieving the brass ring of the profession, law firm partner, and about Jacqueline co-founding an accelerator law firm for women entrepreneurs and how she uses her current platform to help create space for women in male-dominated spaces like tech and family office investing.
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| The Color of Creatorship with Anjali Vats - Episode 54 | 09 Apr 2021 | 00:27:33 | |
In this episode, Kathryn talks with Dr. Anjali Vats about the intersection of race and IP law -- something that may not strike the average person as particularly obvious. They delve into how do the seemingly colorblind patent and copyright laws continue to favor white men, the role of American mythos in maintaining that system, and the stories about invention we should be telling. They also talk about the key moments or decisions that locked the white gaze in as the dominant one in American IP law. They also discuss the concept of IP citizenship and look at the copyright infringement case against Robin Thicke, Pharrell Williams, and TI, and how race and IP law work in that historic case.
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| Chat with Attorney, Author, Speaker, and Activist: Robyn Gigl - Episode 53 | 19 Mar 2021 | 00:30:44 | |
Kathryn talks with author and lawyer Robyn Gigl, who has a legal thriller being released at the end of March - By Way for Sorrow. They talk about Robyn's long-time dream of being an author, and how she balanced her legal practice with writing. They also delve into Robyn's process for developing the characters in her novel and share tips for aspiring writers out there. In addition to being a lawyer and writer, Robyn is also a speaker and activist who was honored by the ACLU-NJ and the NJ Pride Network for her work on behalf of the LGBTQIA+ community. They talk about her activism and being one of the founding members of the Trans Affirming Alliance. Episode Resources
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| Finding Your Niche in the Legal Profession with Ifeoma “Iffy” Ibekwe - Episode 52 | 12 Mar 2021 | 00:30:42 | |
Kathryn chats with Iffy about how she settled into an estate planning practice, and the turns her career has taken to get to this place. Iffy also offers advice for lawyers that struggle with finding the right practice area for them. They talk about how estate planning can embolden women, and why estate planning is an important tool for building generational wealth. Plus, they discuss how Iffy balances her legal practice, being an entrepreneur, family life, and her creative side. Episode Resources
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| The Unconventional Path to Biglaw Partnership with David Moreno - Episode 51 | 05 Mar 2021 | 00:27:33 | |
Kathryn talks with David about diversity in Biglaw and the challenges of recruiting and retention of diverse attorneys. They discussed his recent lateral move to Brown Rudnick, the things he looked for in making that jump, and advice for others looking to move firms. They also talk about David's passion for pro bono work and why is that so important for the legal industry.
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| Helping Biglaw Get Better About Diversity with Laura Leopard - Episode 50 | 26 Feb 2021 | 00:30:31 | |
Kathryn talks with Laura Leopard, founder, and CEO of Leopard Solutions. They talk about Leopard's recently rolled out ethnic diversity data in your law firm index and why it’s vital for the legal industry, they discuss the state of gender and ethnic diversity within the top 200 law firms in the US and the biggest takeaways from that work. They also talk about the newly launched Law Firm Transparency Directory and about transparency generally and why it’s so important to improve the legal industry. Laura also notes what data can raise a red flag for prospective employees — either from a law firm health perspective or something about a firm’s culture. Episode Resources
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| Making the Legal Industry More Human with Leigh Vickery - Episode 49 | 19 Feb 2021 | 00:26:15 | |
Kathryn talks with Leigh Vickery about her work as Chief Strategy & Innovation Officer at LevelLegal. They discuss the ways the legal industry is changing as a result of COVID-19 and why this is a moment for innovation in the industry. They also delve into creating a culture of care as it applies to the legal industry and how things will be different under this model. Episode Resources
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| Law Firm Managing Partner Shares Her Journey To The Top with Frieda Garcia - Episode 165 | 16 Feb 2024 | 00:24:17 | |
Kathryn interviewed Frieda Garcia, a managing partner at BAL. Frieda shares her journey to becoming an immigration lawyer, primarily influenced by her family's legal immigration issues. Although the field is challenging due to its complexity and politicized nature, it is also rewarding, particularly in cases where she's assisted scientists and nurses. Frieda commends her firm's intentional diversity efforts and credits this to her rise as a Latina woman. Toward the end of the episode, she reflects on the unpredictable nature of immigration law, emphasizing resilience and empathy as essential attributes. She offers advice to aspiring lawyers, encouraging resilience, forming strong relationships, treating others with kindness, and prioritizing self-care. Highlights
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| Championing Latinx Causes with Anabel Rosa - Episode 48 | 12 Feb 2021 | 00:32:25 | |
Kathryn talks with the plaintiffs' attorney, Anabel Rosa, about her work fighting for Hispanic/Latinx causes in state and local governments. They talk about how her policy work dovetails with her legal career and why she recommends law school to those that care about social justice issues.
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| Sexual Harassment Settlement That Could Change an Entire Industry with Molly J. Bowen and Julie Goldsmith Reiser - Episode 47 | 19 Nov 2020 | 00:29:10 | |
Kathryn speaks with Molly J. Bowen and Julie Goldsmith Reiser of Cohen Milstein about their representation of Alphabet shareholders in a case over the company’s handing of sexual harassment claims that led to a $310 million settlement that’s been hailed as precedent-setting.
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| Biglaw Firm's Latest Racial Equality Work with Eva J. Pulliam - Episode 46 | 25 Sep 2020 | 00:24:10 | |
Kathryn interviews Arent Fox partner Eva J. Pulliam about the firm's newly launched Center For Racial Equality. They chat about the creation of the Center and what motivated the firm to do so, the firm's role in racial equality, the goals of the Center, and which projects she is initially focused on.
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| The Lawyer Behind the Hollywood Inclusion Rider and Other Strategies for Workplace Diversity with Kalpana Kotagal - Episode 45 | 11 Sep 2020 | 00:31:36 | |
Kathryn interviews Kalpana Kotagal, partner at Cohen Milstein and co-author of the Hollywood “Inclusion Rider” (made famous by Frances McDormand during her 2018 Oscars acceptance speech). They talk about strategies for diversity in the workplace and race and gender discrimination.
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| The Injustice of Criminal Convictions Without Any Crimes with Jessica S. Henry - Episode 44 | 03 Aug 2020 | 00:27:03 | |
Kathryn Rubino talks with Jessica S. Henry, author of “SMOKE BUT NO FIRE: Convicting the Innocent of Crimes that Never Happened”, about the prevalence of no-crime convictions, some of the worst examples of no-crime convictions, how racial injustice exacerbates the issue, and finally what can be done, particularly within the current criminal justice reform zeitgeist.
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| Erasure of Native Voices in Law School Experience Study - Episode 43 | 20 Jul 2020 | 00:28:11 | |
Kathryn talks with Thomasina Real Bird, Angelique EagleWoman, Paulene Abeyta, Christina McDonogh, and Aidan Graybill about the exclusion of Native voices in The Center for Women in Law and The NALP Foundation's study, “Women of Color – A Study of Law Student Experiences”. They discuss the NALP study, then walk through the 4 identified issues with the survey. They also talk about the NALP response to the criticisms and why that isn't a sufficient response. Finally, they discuss the unique issues facing Native American law students and what work is needed to address them.
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| ERA with Linda Coberly - Episode 42 | 14 Jul 2020 | 00:28:09 | |
Kathryn Rubino talks with Linda Coberly, Chicago Office Managing Partner for the law firm of Winston & Strawn and Chair of the ERA Coalition’s Legal Task Force, about the ongoing fight for the adoption of the Equal Rights Amendment.
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| Diversity and Federal Clerkships with Danielle Barondess and Steven Arango - Episode 41 | 02 Jul 2020 | 00:29:55 | |
Kathryn talks with Danielle Barondess (a federal law clerk in Hawaii) and Steven Arango (a federal law clerk in Texas) founders of a new program Law Clerks for Diversity. Law Clerks for Diversity connects diverse candidates with current and former law clerks, practitioners, and judges for mentorship and assistance applying for federal clerkships.
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| Biglaw Pro Bono in the Wake of the George Floyd Protests with Tai-Heng Cheng - Episode 40 | 18 Jun 2020 | 00:24:22 | |
Kathryn talks with Tai-Heng Cheng, global co-head of the international arbitration and trade practice at Sidley, about his recent pro bono efforts. He represents journalist Linda Tirado, who was struck in the eye with a rubber bullet while covering the protests following the murder of George Floyd, in her lawsuit against the city of Minneapolis.
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| How the Recent Black Lives Matter Protests are Changing Biglaw -- Hopefully for the Better with Lia Dorsey - Episode 39 | 12 Jun 2020 | 00:24:26 | |
Kathryn Rubino talks to Lia Dorsey, newly elected President of the Association of Law Firm Diversity Professionals, and Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Dentons, about Biglaw's response to the violent deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, and to Black Lives Matter. Episode Resources
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| Lawyers Need To Invest In Professional Development with Elise Holtzman - Episode 164 | 09 Feb 2024 | 00:28:24 | |
Kathryn interviewed Elise Holtzman, President of The Lawyer’s Edge, who shares her journey from pre-med to law and discusses challenges faced by lawyers. She highlights the pressure being overwhelming leading to visible stress, but advises breaking down goals into smaller achievable tasks. Elise also points out that self-doubts often block individuals from expressing their needs or setting boundaries, and stresses the need to ignore such doubts as they are not based on reality. She encourages lawyers to seek help when stuck and to realize that progress requires new skills and habits, even if changing these seems hard.
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| Interview with Christina Moore, partner at Taylor English Duma LLP - Episode 38 | 21 May 2020 | 00:29:05 | |
Kathryn Rubino talks with Christina Moore, partner at Taylor English Duma LLP, about balancing home life with a thriving legal practice during the pandemic. They discuss COVID-19's impact on work/life balance, tips for dealing with the health crisis and a flourishing legal practice, what she's learned in becoming the firm's PPP point, and what challenges the legal industry faces as we continue to deal with the ramifications of the pandemic. Episode Resources
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| Diversity Initiative Aims to Proactively Combat Effects of COVID-19 with Kori Carew - Episode 37 | 14 May 2020 | 00:29:23 | |
Kathryn Rubino speaks with Kori Carew, Seyfarth Shaw’s chief inclusion and diversity officer and leader of The Belonging Project initiative. They talk about why the middle of a pandemic is the right time for Biglaw to double down on diversity. Episode Resources
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| The In-House Counsel Gender Pay Gap with Eliza Stoker - Episode 36 | 30 Apr 2020 | 00:29:18 | |
Kathryn Rubino interviews Eliza Stoker, Executive Director of MLA’s In-House Counsel Recruiting group, about Major Lindsey & Africa's new In-House Compensation Survey which reveals a gender pay gap. We discuss what folks need to understand about the in-house space that may contribute to the pay gap, what can/should be done to fix the pay gap, and what does gender equity looks like in the in-house space. Episode Resources
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