The I Don't Believe in Astrology Podcast – Details, episodes & analysis

How to receive your inner riches and flow fully into a cascade of abundance. This is an exciting continuation of Debra’s first interview with conscious businessman, personal freedom coach, firestarter, and author Preston Smiles. 

Follow along in a conversation amongst deeply connected friends, where Preston shares some of his secrets to success as a preview to what you’ll find in his new book, Spiritual Millionaire. 

Preston dives into the major lessons he has learned through the laws of the universe, as well as his reverence for nature and how he sees God as a “yes button.” 

Debra interprets Preston’s Astrological chart, full of the polarizing energy of Fire and Water, as Preston shares some of his personal experiences, including moments of death and vulnerability.

This podcast episode will help you reignite your own Fire, your passion for life, and inspire you to celebrate every victory in life, even the seemingly smallest moments. 

It’s all connected to your personal formula for abundance, so tune in to get a preview of what inner (and outer) riches may await you. 

Preorder Preston’s latest book, Spiritual Millionaire, here: https://bit.ly/prestonpreorder 

Watch part 1 of How To Receive Your Inner Riches here: https://bit.ly/innerriches1 

Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: solo.to/dsastrology  

• How to receive your inner riches and begin to access your personal formula for abundance

• The importance of savoring each moment in life, from the biggest to the smallest, and its connection to abundance

• Viewing God as a “yes button” and lessons in universal law

• The polarity of Water and Fire energies and how they show up as vulnerability and passion in Preston

• What Preston learned about life after witnessing someone pass away

[1:22] Introducing of he I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Preston Smiles, who introduces himself

[1:21] Showing Preston’s Astrological chart with a mention of the abundance of Fire in his chart

[2:46] A quick mention of Preston’s latest book, Spiritual Millionaire

[2:59] Did Preston believe in Astrology before he met Debra? 

[3:32] Speaking to Preston being a firestarter, from being in a gang to now, and how it began from his feelings of being less than

[5:55] Debra interprets how Cancer Rising shows up as a superpower for Preston, and how his Aries Moon has helped him to be a fighter

[6:36] Preston shares about having dyslexia and how it impacted him in childhood; Debra makes the connection to his Mercury placement 

[7:25] Preston gives examples of his intuitive hits and moments in life further connect to his Mercury placement, including his powerful story of helping a car accident victim as she passed away

[11:04] From humble beginnings to abundance, Preston shares what he believes his attributed to his wealth and success

[12:01] Debra interprets a powerful dynamic around the placement of Preston’s Moon in his Astrological chart

[12:59] What in this life could Preston not live without, and the connections to his life’s work and the principles he follows 

[17:06] Preston shares something that he teaches in his new book

[19:39] As we all play the game of life, here is what is really happening that so few understand

[20:06] The nature of Preston’s spirituality and his thoughts on God being a “yes button”

[22:03] The law of the ant and the elephant

[22:46] The importance of savoring life

[23:49] Debra recaps the major components of Preston’s Astrological chart

[24:39] There’s no arguing with the spirit of Fire; what we can all learn from this podcast

[25:15] The last time Preston cried

[28:46] Cancer Rising and Aries Moon, the Water and Fire polarity

[29:07] Honoring Preston’s vulnerability

[29:37] Someone dead or alive that Preston would love to have a conversation with; Preston picks two!

[30:43] Debra shares something about near death experiences and connecting to our lineage

[31:32] Closing remarks, including the nature of Astrology

TW: Mentions of suicide

How to become the frequency of peace and become a harmonized human. Garrain Jones joins Debra to share a practical path of getting there, with four must-hear tips and unexpected advice on how to raise your vibration and become your highest divine frequency.

Growing through an upbringing that stifled his spirit and led him to venture down a path ending in a prison sentence, Garrain Jones found his formula for freedom when he was locked behind bars. 

Garrain now moves through life as a powerful force of love and freedom, inspiring bigness within himself and the world, helping others to raise their frequency and find their own freedom. 

In this interview, Garrain and Debra share about the synchronicities of their meeting, including Garrain’s enthusiasm towards Debra’s method of Astrology. Garrain also gives us four key principles to living in higher frequency. As a special bonus, Garrain tells Debra and our listeners about the powerful download he received about the future of humans on a transformational trip to Egypt.

Tune in to access your inner child, your freedom, and raise your vibration! 

Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: solo.to/dsastrology  

• How to become the frequency of peace and become a harmonized human

• Garrain’s four key principles to living in a higher frequency

• An intuitive download about the future of humans Garrain received during a trip to Egypt

• Major takeaways for the energy of Aquarius Rising and embodiment of Cancer

• Personal stories of how Garrain overcame his circumstances to be who he is today

[1:00] Introducing our first stand up podcast of the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Garrain Jones

[1:40] Garrain Jones introduces himself and his mission

[2:18] Debra speaks to components of Garrain’s Astrological chart

[2:59] Garrain describes his childhood 

[3:54] Debra articulates the qualities of Aquarius Rising

[4:27] Something Garrain always felt about “being bad” and his empathic nature

[5:11] How Garrain broke the mold of his upbringing; he shares his resistance to the norm

[6:24] Showing Garrain’s full Astrological chart as Debra interprets his placements

[7:38] The entrance to Garrain and Debra’s friendship, filled with synchronistic events

[11:35] A gift of Aquarius Rising; Garrain shares his story around it

[14:00] Garrain tells about what led him to being sentenced to 12 years in prison, choosing greed over patience

[16:15] Musings about destiny and free will

[17:11] Garrain’s experience feeling freer in prison than he did in his childhood

[18:54] “In losing my freedom, I discovered my freedom.”

[21:54] Garrain’s mother was afraid to tell people what happened to him

[22:32] The “gagagoogoo” of manifestation; what if there are no coincidences?

[24:39] What Garrain has been studying since 2005 as a result of his huge cues from spirit/God/intuition

[25:17] The formula for living in the right vibration and frequency

[26:30] “I think we forget we’re a temple.”

[27:14] Practical ways to raise your vibration

[29:20] The importance of cultivating a daily practice of meaningful disciplines

[30:07] Acknowledging and accessing the divinity within you

[30:55] Debra recaps Garrain’s four pinnacle life practices and their connection to the four Elements

[31:32] Challenging the notion that discipline is a bad word

[32:25] The contagiousness of Garrain (and his Mercury conjunct Jupiter)

[32:56] Garrain shares his story about visiting Egypt and getting the download of the future of humans

[35:58] Garrain’s “version of church without the judgment or shame” to activate the harmonized human 

[36:44] One unexpected thing Garrain recommends everyone to do 

[38:28] What Debra says is much more interesting than Astrology

[38:50] The last time Garrain cried

[40:22] Who Garrain would have a conversation with, throughout time and history, if given the chance

[41:53] “If we have the courage to look in the mirror and see God…”

[42:54] Debra’s observance of Garrain and his energetic body

[43:31] Being a Cancer that’s removed from the shell and mastering the human condition

[44:58] Closing out this outside-of-the-box interview with gratitude

How to find wisdom in death and birth- two seemingly opposite concepts that are actually deeply connected, inviting us into deeper wisdom and soulful connection.

Debra is joined by Siobhan Asgharzadeh, a grief doula, soul activist, storyteller, dancer, lover of the wild lands, ceremonialist, and birth doula, to reach into the dark depths and fear around death and birth. Siobhan speaks to the societal urge to choose science over humanity, and to the nature of her work to bring back our old rituals and practices to give sanctity and an honoring as we usher lives in and out of our human perspective. 

With four planets in Taurus in the Astrological House of community, friendship, and futuristic views, Debra and Siobhan engage in a conversation about the importance of congruence between your Astrological chart and your soul, as Siobhan echoes Debra’s interpretation of these Astrological dynamics within her work as a death doula. 

Death is a topic we seem programmed to hide from, to shy away at the mere mention of it. Debra and Siobhan invite us all to take a closer look at death and share their personal stories on the sacred wisdom that awaits when we choose to lean into the experience of death and birth.

Learn more about Siobhan Asgharzadeh at https://griefpilgrim.com

• How to find wisdom in death and birth by leaning into these experiences

• Understanding the practice of being a death doula

• Siobhan and Debra’s personal stories of bearing witness to death and birth

• How Siobhan’s four planets in Taurus, in the Eleventh House, show up in her life

• Calling in new perspectives through our old practices and rituals around death and birth

[01:00] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest

[03:12] Debra gives an interpretive overview of Siobhan’s Astrological chart

[04:24] Displaying Astrological Siobhan’s chart with nods to the Eleventh House of Astrology

[05:50] Siobhan speaks to her training in midwifery and her practice

[08:56] Debra and Siobhan speak to natural birth practices and why Siobhan moved towards focusing on work around death and grief

[11:51] How Siobhan works with death now and what she sees in her practice from a societal perspective

[15:30] Debra reflects on her own study of being a death doula

[16:58] The connection of this conversation to the climate crisis

[17:33] Debra shares a personal story of the passing of one of her best friends

[18:55] Debra asks those listening, “What is your relationship with death?”

[19:25] Siobhan speaks to the resistance to death and birth

[20:55] Debra shares a personal story about witnessing death that changed her perspective

[22:25] Siobhan describes how death can feed life and shares about the first death she witnessed

[28:40] Debra reflects on the elemental pieces that occur in birth and death

[30:50] Debra asks Siobhan to reflect on her four planets in Taurus in the Eleventh House as a draw to community and her life’s work

[34:31] Debra shares about the practice of sitting shiva 

[36:20] The old rituals of birth and death brought back to the surface by Siobhan

[36:64] Bringing ceremony, ritual, and honoring to our experiences

[38:15] Siobhan speaks to us using words and functions as a society that don’t allow us to feel and access our heart

[39:51] Sharing what the mind, heart, body, and spirit perspectives are through grief

[41:22] The goal of the game of life, as told by an Astrologer

[42:03] What Debra always knew about death and attachment to our beliefs

[43:23] The most important conversation to be had about the congruence between your soul and your Astrological chart

[44:12] “The soul is an endangered species.”

[45:22] The initiation of Saturn Return

[47:46] The analogy of midwifing the death and the birth of Earth

[48:37] Siobhan finishes out the podcast with a beautiful story

[51:26] We need to see beyond our mind’s perspective by dropping into our hearts and souls

[53:23] Closing out with the essence of this podcast

How to talk to angels and help your soul become more intertwined with your human experience. That’s the theme of our podcast with the ethereal Lorna Byrne, who seems to be an ambassador of the angels to our human species.

Lorna Byrne has been seeing and talking to angels since she was a baby.  She talks openly about what she’s learned and how angels completely guide her life. Lorna is the author of seven best-selling books, including Angels in My Hair, The True Story of a Modern-Day Irish Mystic. Lorna’s books have been published in more than 50 countries and 30 languages around the world. 

While this podcast episode will not feature an Astrological chart due to Lorna being uncertain of her birth time, Debra is able to connect the dots of what Lorna does know about her birth time and the Astrological placements that present themselves in Lorna’s life. Lorna has not spent much time with Astrology, but she echoes Debra’s Astrological analysis during this interview.

Lorna shares her visions of the future, where there is no division as our souls become one with our humanness. In this future, we live in peace with each other and nature, our home. According to Lorna, the future depends on this spiritual evolution. 

Lorna Byrne has physical sight of the unseen world, of the angels, spirits and other spiritual beings that she says are guiding and teaching us every second of every day. Many have sensed these beings occasionally but do not see them tangibly like Lorna. But Lorna says we all have this potential if we grow spiritually, when we can learn to talk to angels. 

Tune in for a recollection of incredible angelic sights, stories, and the beginning steps to shift our perspectives and open our world up to the divine.

Learn more about Lorna Byrne at lornabyrne.com 

Get a copy of Lorna’s Book, Angels In My Hair: https://amzn.to/3LZoPKk 

• How to talk to angels and connect your soul to your human experience

• The truth about our guardian angels and how they see us

• Incredible stories throughout Lorna’s life as she received messages from the angels

• Lorna’s Aries nature and her Mercury in Pisces, as interpreted by Debra, contributing to how she has perceived the physical world, as well as the world beyond

• Messages about the divine, no matter what your beliefs are

[00:57] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest’s mission to help others

[02:00] Our guest, Lorna Byrne, talks about the reminder from the angels to keep her gift quiet 

[02:57] Our guest, Lorna Byrne, introduces herself and tells us about her early beginnings

[04:30] Debra interprets Lorna’s Mercury in Pisces and Lorna reflects on Debra’s interpretation with her real life experiences, even in infancy

[06:09] Lorna’s beginnings of being a late talker, with the angels reminding her to keep her gifts a secret

[06:55] Lorna speaks to the guardian angels we all have and her request to Archangel Michael

[07:46] Do angels eat and taste food? Lorna answers and sheds light on the clothing that angels appear with

[08:46] Debra shares about her sense of her guardian angels (that seem to have a sense of humor)

[09:34] The true nature of spirituality 

[10:55] What Lorna thinks people should do when they start their day

[11:46] Lorna shares about a direct experience with the angels when she was a child, playing with her brother that had passed away

[13:46] Lorna recounts being open publicly about her gifts and an abrupt message from Archangel Michael 

[16:14] Lorna can’t read; she tells the story of finally saying yes to God’s message to begin writing and the synchronistic events that followed

[20:20] More synchronistic events came to help Lorna get her book published

[21:54] One thing God always says to Lorna 

[23:01] Debra asks: What makes it okay to say no to God? Lorna answers and tells Debra about the difference between angels and God

[25:08] Why angels love to be around people

[26:01] Debra asks Lorna about the conversation around angels and sensitive religious subjects like abortion; Lorna shares story of being called to speak to a woman who became pregnant and who had nuns telling her she was pregnant with the a child of the devil

[29:14] A question Lorna always asks God

[30:00] Are angels envious of us?

[30:11] What Lorna wishes people would do

[31:54] Lorna shares a story that reflects how souls choose their parents and the lives they will lead before they are born

[33:05] What Lorna couldn’t live without and how Lorna feels she is different from others having been brought up by the angels

[34:32] How Lorna distinguishes herself from the angels

[35:27] The intertwining of the human being and the soul, as told by Lorna and Alice Bailey’s work

[36:41] Lorna’s uncertainty about when she was born, making it difficult to read her Astrological chart

[37:42] Debra interpret what she does know about Lorna’s Astrological composition

[37:58] Debra shares appreciation for what Lorna’s presence and gifts can teach us all

[38:27] Lorna shares about what the future looks like and why the intertwining of ourselves to our souls and spirituality is so important

[39:25] How Lorna’s work has been perceived by scientists she has worked with

[40:19] Lorna shares her visions of the future and how the United States has a different vibrance that will be pinnacle for our collective future

[42:59] The last time Lorna cried and what touches Lorna the most

[44:44] How Lorna’s children navigate their mother’s gift

[45:57] The story of Lorna’s husband that began with a message from an angel at the age of 10

[50:01] When Lorna recognized her husband from the vision the angel gave her, and more information she knew ahead of time before actually meeting him

[52:24] Debra appreciates how Lorna has changed our point of view

[53:23] Lorna’s final words, no matter what your beliefs are

[55:05] Debra’s final words on asking your guardian angels for help

How to let go of your fear may have you wondering, “What is on the other side of fear?” On the other side of fear is the deepest love imaginable, a sense of peace, and an unshakeable connection with your soulful self.

Debra is joined by Christian Sundberg. When Christian was a young child he remembered his existence before coming to Earth. While that memory left him completely for his early adult life, it spontaneously returned at the age of 30 as Christian took up a meditation practice and went through a personal awakening journey. Christian now seeks to remind others in at least a small part of who we really are beneath the human “play.” 

Christian is the author of the book A Walk in the Physical, which attempts to succinctly describe the larger spiritual context in which we exist and the importance of love in our human journey. While Christian is ambivalent on the topic of Astrology and has never had a reading, Debra connects his chart to life’s purpose, the timeline of his spiritual journey, and the major themes of Christian’s life. 

Christian speaks with Debra about his path towards spiritual awakening, his pre-life memories, and shares wisdom on the connection between fear and our un-evolvedness. It’s time to learn to let go of your fear- tune in to hear why…

Learn more about Christian Sundberg at https://awalkinthephysical.com/

Get a copy of Christian’s Book, A Walk In The Physical: https://amzn.to/46xQjhT

• How to let go of your fear and what happens you do

• Messages from the higher intelligence of the other side 

• Pre-life memories and how we all choose which life we incarnate into

• The importance of releasing our ego stories

• The themes of Aries and Virgo energy, and the shift within a Saturn Return

[01:14] Christian Sundberg shares his experience with Astrology so far, and Debra introduces him as a double Aries with Moon in Virgo

[01:45] Debra shares about her life-changing from watching Christian’s other interviews and identifies a major undertone in our zeitgeist

[03:33] Christian gives an overview of his professional career as a project manager

[04:00] Debra gives an elemental overview of Christan’s Astrological chart

[04:42] Christian began to go through his awakening during his Saturn Return

[05:08] Debra shows Christian’s Astrological chart and dives into the mathematical timing of Saturn cycles and the activation during Saturn Return

[06:19] Christian provides an important disclaimer about the limitations of the human language before telling his story

[07:55] Christian tells the story of his spiritual activation which began with listening to Tom Campbell, reading his 1,000 page book, and starting a meditation practice

[10:21] Christian describes his first non-physical, out-of-body experience

[12:41] The entrance of Christian’s pre-birth memory 

[13:35] Christian shares one of the reasons he is here in this lifetime, and how his spiritual path has been unfolding to support his learning

[14:34] Debra recalling part of Christian’s story that stuck out to her; Christian shares more about that story

[16:41] “The depth to which we are wounded must be healed.”

[18:11] How Christian accepted the veil

[20:46] Christian’s remembrance of being a fetus and deciding not to come into a life

[23:43] Christian explains reviewing his life experience ahead of coming into this life

[25:17] Describing the essence of the soul and the only way to be incarnated

[26:43] Christian mentions his illness at the age of 22

[27:07] “Human lives are so precious.”

[27:59] Debra echoes Christian’s sentiments and why Astrology works

[28:23] The nature of our experience as a human

[30:24] A lesson from Alice Bailey

[31:54] How we “make choices in the context.”

[33:14] How Christian’s awareness plays out in his life

[34:45] Debra shows Christian’s Astrological chart and speaks to his life purpose; Christian echoes his experience with having three planets in Virgo 

[37:01] How the Pisces and Virgo axis shows up in Christian’s life

[39:00] Releasing our ego stories

[42:20] “We’re not actually separate.”

[42:54] What Christian wishes people would do

[43:36] The two ultimate issues that are happening on Earth

[44:11] What was the purpose of ignorance in the human experience?

[45:21] Debra reflects on the appetite for our human impulses

[46:20] Why we experience a high level of constraint and limitation as humans

[47:31] How we all act from a place of fear

[48:48] Why can’t our unconscious minds filter out the negative or the evil impulses like how our internal organs filter out toxins?

[50:24] There’s not really an enemy- our fear is the problem

[52:39] Christian’s thoughts on the evolution of the human species

[55:50] What happens when you face your fear

[57:08] The vibrational temperature of humans is higher than what it has been and the refacing and integration of old societal patterns

[58:29] Christian’s thoughts on extraterrestrials

[1:00:15] Christian’s optimism around the ecological terror that is transpiring

[1:01:36] Debra explains the continuance of fundamental principles regardless of our physical existence (or Earth’s physical existence)

[1:02:46] The root of feeling threatened

[1:04:41] What Christian wouldn’t want to live without

[1:05:11] Someone Christian would love to speak with

[1:05:58] The last time Christian cried

[1:06:38] Christian and Debra discuss if there is anything to fear in this life; the truth behind it all

How to be more disciplined is key to growth and achieving excellence. Do you know the true function of discipline beyond the negative connotation? Tune into this conversation with digital marketing expert Destinee Berman, whose own focus on discipline played a huge role as the catalyst of creating Debra’s Applied Astrology school.

Every Monday morning for many years, Debra had a conversation with destiny (aka Destinee) to dream up and manifest the structure of her business. In this episode, Destinee shares her formula for success is not just in the numbers and data-driven results, but in how she manages and stabilizes her energy and spiritual center.

Destinee shares about the effects of her intense and difficult entrance into this life during the Cambodian holocaust and as a result of growing up poor, while Debra shares about how the tremendous Capricorn influence in Destinee’s chart has gifted her with a potent perseverance towards excellence. Even more Astrological insights are shared by Debra using her unique method of Astrological interpretation, including a focus on Destinee’s Saturn on the Sun and Mercury in Scorpio, as Destinee affirms Debra’s analysis to be true with concrete life examples. 

“I don’t believe in Astrology” was a phrase never in Destinee’s vocabulary, and working alongside Debra has only amplified her belief and application of this ancient language. 

If you’ve been looking for more discipline in your life, this is the episode you’ve been waiting for! 

Connect with Destinee on Instagram (@desberman)

Find out where discipline shows up in your own Astrological chart and sign up for Debra’s self-study course, Inner View: Discovery of YourSELF through the Stars. This course is similar to Level 1 of Applied Astrology, but you'll study on your own, at your own pace, at a fraction of the price. Join now for instant access: http://innerview.info/ 

• How to be more disciplined for more growth and achieving excellence

• Dispelling the negative connotations around the word “discipline” and celebrating success

• Destinee and Debra share keys to success and manifestation

• Destinee’s entrance into Astrology and how it lead to working with Debra

• The spectrum of a major Capricorn signature in someone’s chart

[00:53] Introduction of Destinee Berman, in Debra’s words as well as Destinee’s own words, as our guest on The I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast

[04:00] Debra pulls up and interprets Destinee’s Astrological chart

[05:45] How Debra and Destinee met and Destinee’s reflection of her reading with Debra

[07:00] Destinee shares about her intense entrance into this lifetime

[08:55] The karmic relationship between Destinee and Debra

[09:53] What drives Destinee

[11:22] Destinee shares her formula for manifestation

[13:15] How Cardinal energy plays out in business

[13:55] Destinee’s sense around the climate crisis

[15:24] The way Destinee’s Mercury in Scorpio consumes information

[16:29] How Destinee’s Capricorn Rising is a dominant energy in how she shows up in the world

[17:55] Destinee’s softening around her Moon in Cancer 

[18:22] Debra speaks to the permission present in the energy of Destinee

[19:09] Reflections on the word “discipline”

[21:22] How Destinee is preparing for her older age and how that notion shows up in her Astrological chart

[21:55] Destinee’s entrance into Astrology

[23:09] Debra shares something she always thought to be true about Destinee that also describes the nature of Capricorn energy

[24:42] Accepting the nature of your chart

[25:52] Debra shares about starting her business and being a single parent and how Destinee affected her

[26:56] Permission around success

[27:55] How Destinee describes her work ethic and the balance of motherhood

[29:25] If Destinee wasn’t talking about online marketing, what would she be doing instead?

[30:33] “I wish that people would ______.”

[31:09] What Destinee wouldn’t want to live without

[31:46] A person in history that Destinee would love to have a conversation with

[32:54] Destinee’s fundamental belief about the future

[34:33] What Destinee continues to know without question

[35:22] Debra reflects on Destinee’s example of excellence and perseverance 

[37:11] Debra shares about the gift of success

[37:54] “I don’t believe in Astrology’ is not in Destinee’s vocabulary

[38:26] Signing off with gratitude

How to make your next choice in life- the feeling of being frozen in fear of making the “wrong”  decision is something we have all wrestled with. What if you had guidance to help you unfreeze and get into flow with making the best decision? The answer lies within your intuition (and your Astrology chart) as evidenced by our guest, Julie Reisler.

Julie Reisler, a board-certified master life and wellness coach, is an interior designer for your soul. She's a mentor to hundreds of coaches, change-makers, and soulful entrepreneurs. Julie is the host of The You-est You® podcast and the author of Get a PhD in YOU. Julie has been featured in Forbes, MindBodyGreen, The Chopra Center, Bustle, and Thrive Global for her work as a coach, teacher, and conscious business leader. Julie is a multi-time TEDx speaker and has spoken on stages throughout North America. She is also a popular course creator on Insight Timer, the number-one ranked mindfulness app.

Debra and Julie’s conversation is hinged on the importance of connecting with the truth of the divine and learning how to lean into your intuition. We all have intuitive abilities; some of us just come with a more easeful access, like Julie as evidenced by her Grand Trine in Water, which Debra breaks down using her method of Astrology in a way that resonates deeply with Julie. Julie loves Astrology yet has only dabbled in it, and this conversation with Debra around her Astrological chart has Julie ignited her eagerness to learn more through Debra’s work. 

Tune into this conversation to release any reluctance you have about your own intuitive gifts, and get insights into how to relax into soul-based decisions by accessing your inner knowing. 

Connect with Julie on Instagram (@juliereisler) and get Julie's FREE 7-day workbook to design your best life:  juliereisler.com/toolset

Join Debra for her Astrological Immersion, happening now, with a LIVE event starting August 21st that you won’t want to miss! Grab your free front-row seat at astrologicalimmersion.com 

• How to confidently make your next choice in life 

• The one simple question that may be the game-changer the next time you are caught at a crossroad

• Astrological markers that speak to the ability to reach a high level of success and a strong psychic ability (you may have them, too!)

• The importance of listening to your gut or intuition

• How Debra’s method of Astrology is igniting new excitement to learn Astrology for Julie

[00:42] Introduction Julie Reisler as our guest on The I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast

[02:47] Debra shows and interprets Julie’s Astrological chart

[05:15] The quality about Julie that makes her standapart, and Julie identifies a quality of herself that she has never said out loud before

[06:20] Debra speaking to the invitation and permission of the podcast and of Debra’s Applied Astrology school

[07:05] Debra Astrologically breaking down Julie’s gift and Julie affirming Debra’s cosmic translation of her chart

[08:37] The vision or visual that Julie has seen that shows her gifts

[09:17] The turning point of Julie waking up to a greater spiritual connection and new way of living

[12:40] A question from a coach that shifted Julie’s perspective completely

[14:08] How Julie’s family reacted to her big life shift (and Debra describes the Astrological connection to their reaction)

[15:46] Jumping back into Julie’s chart to speak to her Grand Trine, an Astrological component that for Julie indicates a strong psychic, intuitive ability

[16:35] Julie’s excitement for Debra’s Astrological gift and Debra’s method for breaking it down so simply

[17:16] Julie’s life lesson, mental body, and intuitive nature as its shown by her Grand Trine in Water

[18:12] The first book Julie wrote, Get a PhD In You

[19:40] Another book that Julie has started and a new idea that has come through for Julie that is calling to her

[20:46] What Julie wishes people would do

[22:17] Julie’s intuitive knowing about her current husband and a knowing about her previous husband

[23:41] Another description of Julie and her intuitive gift as told by her Astrological chart

[24:28] The reluctancy of owning our spiritual gifts and Julie’s take on foundational spiritual teachings that bridge and transcend religions

[26:40] The recognizable master teachers that have connected with Julie

[27:15] What recapitulation means and how it is ever present in Julie

[27:58] What Julie couldn’t live without in this life

[28:41] The gift that came out of Julie’s lower spine injury

[29:38] About Julie’s women-led business and being a professor at Georgetown University

[31:30] One thing Julie would change about herself

[32:30] Debra speaks to the Astrology and coaching connection and Julie’s need for movement each day

[34:07] What Julie sees and senses about the climate crisis

[36:35] How the inner work we do can change our outer world

[37:13] Julie speaking to materialism, fighting, and lack of compassion that is prevalent in humanity and the mirror of it in the climate crisis

[38:21] The inspiration that Julie provides and how we can all see that within ourselves

[39:37] The best way to connect with Julie

[40:07] Julie’s obsession with her work and how it shows up in her natal Astrological chart

[40:44] Signing off with gratitude for connection and Julie’s energy of light and love

How to receive your inner riches, whether or not the outer world matches. Debra sits down with Preston Smiles, conscious businessman, trailblazer, personal freedom coach, experiential speaker, author, and “badass messenger of love,” sharing the formula for living more fully and fulfilled. 

If you’re not happy with how abundance shows up in your life right now, give this interview a listen to be steeped in appreciation for the riches in your life and wisdom for getting out of your head and into your true essence. Do you have the courage to listen beyond your mind? Do you know the power of deep listening?

Preston shares his personal experiences with his capacity for deep listening- how it has led to catalytic moments in his life, from “profane to the profound” as he describes. Preston tells an incredible story about intuitive nudges he received while in New York City that lead him to play a part in a perspective-changing event. 

Debra explains the roles Preston’s Mercury in Cancer and Cancer Rising play in his connection to intuition, as well as musings on his double Fire energetics and the reason the Astrological theme Preston has picked up on makes so much sense based on his Astrological chart. 

Learn more about Preston, his daily mantra, and his messages of love, all echoed by Debra’s remarks on being open to perspectives beyond the constructs of your mind, the universal human wound, and a challenge to us all… be ready to receive!

Find Preston on Instagram: @prestonsmiles

See Preston and Debra LIVE for Debra’s upcoming virtual Astrological Immersion August 21st-25th, with a closing call on August 28th. Sign up to be amongst the first to get your free seat here: astrologicalimmersion.com 

• How to open yourself up to receive your inner riches

• The power of deep listening and how it can manifest into profound life moments and lessons

• How Preston identified an Astrological theme in his life that Debra had the explanation for

• The shifts that gratitude and saying “yes to the yes” can have in your life

• The mantras that Preston and Debra start their day with and how it helps them experience life beyond the small constructs of the human mind

[01:02] Introduction of Preston Smiles and The I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast

[02:04] Preston’s introduction

[03:43] How moving back in his with his mother helped Preston change the dynamics of his life

[04:30] Growing up as an underdog

[06:23] Debra shows Preston’s chart and the validation of his life lesson of Saturn in Virgo, his double Fire energetics, and his compassionate Cancer Rising

[07:43] Preston echoes the accuracy of Debra notating the Virgo life lesson themes in his life

[08:51] Debra discusses the beginnings of this podcast and asks Preston what his sense is about the future

[10:18] Preston shares about his vision quest, or vision fast as he calls it, and his reflections from the experience

[14:01] Debra shares her one directive she hopes people receive from this podcast

[14:28] Debra shares more about the major Astrological components of Preston’s chart

[15:12] Debra shares her thoughts on choosing your parents in this lifetime

[16:57] Preston shares about a medical condition that shook him to his core and changed everything, and inevitably led to his life’s work

[21:43] Echoing part of Preston’s story of coming into his full self, Debra shares a permission slip from the Age of Aquarius

[22:49] Preston shares his gratitude for this life and how he has “said yes to the yes”

[23:56] Preston details an incredible story about listening to his intuition

[32:07] Debra reflects on Preston’s story, the power of deep listening, and Debra’s pact with spirit for her life’s work

[33:25] Debra’s story about being in meditation and listening to a directive from spirit, then initiating an uncomfortable conversation with a friend of the past

[34:39] You don’t need someone else to forgive you and you can be the doula or healer

[35:10] Debra demonstrates the manifestation of Preston’s Mercury in Cancer

[35:30] Debra’s challenge to all of us and Preston echoes her sentiments

[36:45] The last time Preston cried and breaking the cycle of his unsupportive beliefs

[39:45] The universal wound of not feeling worthy and the call to find compassion for the human condition (check out Debra’s book, The Missing Element)

[42:11] Preston’s early morning mantra

[43:44] The message Preston always receives during plant ceremony

[44:10] What Debra wants to everyone to take in through this podcast

[45:05] Debra’s waking thoughts each day

[45:59] The truth about us all

[47:22] The moment-to-moment love affair of being an adult

[48:02] Preston talks about the manifestation of our dreams and the sacrifices they may bring

[49:02] Preston being a modern-day spiritual master

[50:31] Your agreement at a higher level of consciousness

[51:40] Debra summarizes the message of this podcast

[52:52] How to find and work with Preston

[54:25] The call once more to learn how to listen deeply to your intuition and to spirit

Learning how to understand your dreams can help you connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world. Our dream time is sacred, and there are benevolent messages even in our scariest nightmares. Debra sits with Athena Laz, Spiritual Dream Teacher, Depth Psychologist, and author of The Alchemy of Your Dreams and The Deliberate Dreamer's Journal, to discuss the powerful root of your dreams and their messages. 

Athena explains that everyone dreams, and everyone has the ability to create a deeper connection to their dream world and intuition, enhancing our connection to nature, the collective, and ultimately our own souls.

Debra describes how Athena’s Astrological chart points exactly to Athena’s life work, and Athena echoes Debra’s Astrological interpretations with excitement and an enthusiastic interest in joining Debra’s Applied Astrology school.

Tune into this episode to learn more about the connection between dreaming and major collective events (like the pandemic and natural disasters), what repetitive dreams really mean, and what practices you can start to better understand your dreams and expand the horizons of your dream world and intuition.

Find Athena on Instagram: @athena_laz

Get a copy of Athena’s book, The Alchemy of Your Dreams: https://amzn.to/3JsCxUP

Start your dream journaling journey with Athena’s The Deliberate Dreamer’s Journal:  https://amzn.to/3NKUws6 

• How to understand your dreams to connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world

• How a dream journaling practice will enhance your dream world

• The mere practice of putting your awareness on the potential of your dream experience can increase your dream frequency, even for those people that don’t remember their dreams

• Athena’s first experience with Astrology and her renewed interest in the subject as evidenced by her excitement around Debra’s interpretation of her Astrological chart and enrolling in Debra’s Applied Astrology school

• The nature of precognitive dreams and the benevolent interpretation of nightmares

[00:50] Introduction of the subject matter of this podcast episode

[01:28] Does Athena believe in Astrology? Her experience with her first reading

[01:58] Athena’s introduction

[04:09] Athena’s drawing the connection between dreams, climate consciousness, and the pandemic

[07:09] When Pluto was discovered and the connection to the Death card in Tarot

[07:54] Debra and Athena share their dreams about tsunamis

[08:35] Anxiety arising as a societal symptom amidst radical change

[10:01] A big theme of Athena’s Astrological chart shows her as the futurist

[10:18] Debra sharing a story about a child dreaming of disaster the night before the September 11th attacks, and a precognitive dream Debra had not long after that

[11:30] Athena explains precognitive or prophetic dreaming and the importance of a dream journaling practice

[13:24] Debra shares and discusses Athena’s Astrological chart, describing Athena’s connection to her work

[15:09] Athena’s affirmation of Debra’s interpretation of her Astrological chart

[15:26] Athena answers Debra’s question about what the difference is between those who have a rich dream world and those who don’t remember their dreams

[18:00] Who is giving us messages in our dreams?

[19:16] Debra sharing a dream of a deceased loved one and the showing of her shadow

[21:05] How Athena has interpreted dreams for others and aims to teach people how to do it for themselves

[21:43] Debra shares some of her own experience with dream interpretation

[22:28] How dream interpretation theories can be too prescriptive and the importance of maintaining the perspective of your own intuition

[23:55] The range of dreaming viewpoints (Debra references Jung and Freud) 

[24:13] Debra sharing a very obvious message from a “loud” dream of a client

[24:44] Debra speaks to the importance of writing dreams out and speaking the dreams out loud; Athena echoes those sentiments

[25:36] Athena shares a personal example of reframing a nightmare into a benevolent message

[28:04] The message behind repetitive dreams

[28:26] Carl Jung’s dream perspective that helped Debra

[29:27] Debra asks Athena what she would be talking about all the time if she wasn’t talking about dreams

[30:02] What Athena wishes people would

[30:13] What Athena couldn’t live without

[30:48] Someone throughout history that Athena would love to have a conversation with if she could

[31:18] Athena shares her newer interest in the Tarot 

[31:37] The last time Athena had a good cry

[33:03] Athena shares what she would change about herself if she could, and Debra connects that to Athena’s Astrological chart

[32:37] Athena shares more about her Astrology experience and interest, and Debra invites her to Applied Astrology school!

[33:09] What Debra would be focusing on in this lifetime if she wasn’t an Astrologer

[34:14] Debra shares her gratitude for Athena and her life’s work, and Athena shares her gratitude for their serendipitous connection

How to see beyond fear and find wisdom when the future looks bleak should be a reason alone to listen to this podcast episode. Beyond that message, this interview is steeped in practical mysticism and science, understanding the evolution of the human species, and acceptance of the natural cycles of Earth. 

Chemistry occurs seating our guest, Gene Keys founder Richard Rudd, in between Debra Silverman and Carla Johnson. The trio shares how they met and bounces effortlessly through a conversation about the fear culture of climate change and the importance of sinking into wisdom and faith in moments of angst and uncertainty. 

Richard Rudd is an international spiritual teacher, writer and award-winning poet. In 2002 when he began to write and receive the Gene Keys – a vast synthesis exploring the miraculous possibilities inherent in human DNA. Richard shares the Gene Keys connection to our future and his views on how Astrology not only works, but can aid us in our transitions as we meet our next evolutionary point.

Carla Johnson is a geologist, hydrologist, environmental engineer, and entrepreneur, one of Debra’s dearest friends, sharing a deep appreciation for Debra’s method of Astrology.

Debra shares the Astrological connection between Richard and Carla, with Carla also chiming in about Richard’s Saturn in Aries and how it translates into his purpose. 

This is a conversation rooted in mysticism, science, radical honesty, and consciousness, with reminders of the importance of self-awareness, meditation, studying, intimacy, transition planning, and keeping your faith as we move towards our next evolution.

Find Richard on Instagram: @genekeys

Check out Richard’s offerings: https://genekeys.com/debra-silverman/ 

Listen to Carla’s IDBIA episode, Just a Page In Earth’s Book :https://debrasilvermanastrology.com/podcast

• How to see beyond the fear and find wisdom in an unsettled world

• The difference between knowledge and wisdom

• How Richard’s Gene Keys and Debra’s method of Astrology work in tandem

• The imminence of cycles of extinction and evolution

• What we can do to help steady the Earth and steady ourselves (there is a connection!)

[01:11] Introduction of Richard Rudd and special bonus guest, Carla Johnson

[03:50] How and where Debra, Richard, and Carla all met

[04:39] The overview of Earth’s history as told by Carla

[10:45] Do we need to be worried about the climate crisis? Richard Rudd shares his perspective

[14:20] What excites Debra about the future

[14:56] The timing of humans in Earth’s history and the intellectual acceleration of humans

[16:11] An explanation of Gene Keys and the connection to our future

[18:22] Reaching points of paradox

[21:00] Carla shares fascinating facts demonstrating the connection between Earth and the human body

[22:35] A call to suspend your human mind

[23:40] The emotional body’s resistance to believe greater wisdom and how Gene Keys supports breaking through that resistance

[26:24] The new awareness operating system we are moving towards and how Gene Keys and Astrology give you a road map and tools to get through to our next evolution

[28:47] How Debra says we all can make a difference with an open mind

[30:24] The Earth’s intelligence and capacity to regenerate

[32:15] Lowering the planet’s stress level

[34:06] The important thing to remember is nothing operates in isolation

[35:10] The air tight system of Astrological high roads and low roads and how de-evolution isn’t possible

[36:33] Richard Rudd’s chart reviewed

[38:42] The truth about the future citing predictive models

[42:25] The reminder of our need to carry humanity through the shifts to come

[43:29] Debra’s unshakeable belief in Astrology and flowing through death and change

[45:51] How systems like Debra’s method of Astrology and Richard’s Gene Keys can give you back your faith

[46:40] The horrible truths of how this climate cycle will play out and what you can do 

[48:39] Carla’s upcoming book and the unsustainability of the current state of our lives 

[50:34] The most sustainable unit of living

[51:13] How we will live in a sustainable future

[52:00] What it’s like to be in the higher realm of your Gene Keys

[53:15] The future system will cherish you, but there is work to be done

[54:02] The answer to people who say they don’t care of believe in climate change

[54:24] The power of wisdom over knowledge

[55:40] Ending with a call to keep your faith, and a nod to nothing but beginnings