Explore every episode of the podcast The Fangirl Business: A Supernatural Podcast
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| 1: PurCon 9 & "Watching Over Me" - aka It's a F***ing Duck | 05 Nov 2025 | 01:12:12 | |
Chrisha and Catherine are BACK to celebrate the 5th anniversary of the "I love you" heard around the world in Supernatural's episode "Despair." They begin with an update on how they are both doing (spoiler alert: shipwreck documentaries and true crime are major pasttimes at the moment) and their take on the current status of fandom in general. They then move on to the events from Purgatory Con 9, which took place in Dusseldorf, Germany, from May 31st-June 1st, 2025. They focus in particularly on Jensen talking about the meaning of "Watching Over Me" and his approbation as he listened to Misha discuss "Despair"'s homosexual declaration of love. As part of this discussion, they contrast their past worry about getting things wrong in their analysis with their current, more relaxed feeling about approaching Supernatural-related material, even without the confirmation of figures like Ackles. Their conclusion: If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a f***ing duck, y'all. And that's how they're going to approach everything from now on. Note: The question Jensen answered about "Watching Over Me" was from @blanketforcas.bsky.social, who kindly provided us with a transcript of what she asked here after this episode went live! Thanks, Tess! Credits:
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| 17.6: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Music Story | 16 Feb 2024 | 01:38:24 | |
Join Chrisha and Catherine for a chaotic episode where all of the things that can happen in the background at Catherine's apartment do while they try to talk all about the music in the finale of The Winchesters. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 15.1: "The Winchesters" E11 - The Truth Shall Set You Free | 29 Nov 2023 | 01:26:20 | |
In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the way that the series thus far has been a healing experience for many from Supernatural's finale, Mary's response to Betty and to John's arrest, the revelations about John while he's in police custody, Lata's journey of letting go of things that were not hers to carry, the monster of the week (Erebus), Carlos' support role whilst maintaining his delightful personality, and Millie's personal growth. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| Promo 3: How We Met | 23 Sep 2019 | 00:06:30 | |
Welcome to The Fangirl Business! In this brief promo episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss how they met and bonded over Supernatural, and how that friendship ultimately spawned a podcast! Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| Promo 2: Who We Are | 23 Sep 2019 | 00:05:10 | |
Welcome to The Fangirl Business! In this brief promo episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their educational and professional backgrounds, including what role their expertise will play in their academic fangirling over Season 15. The co-hosts also discuss their Supernatural fandom origin stories, and how they each came to find their home within the #SPNFamily. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| Promo 1: San Diego Comic Con | 23 Sep 2019 | 00:04:33 | |
Welcome to The Fangirl Business! In this brief promo episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss why they chose to begin recording the podcast before Season 15 airs, and how the fandom reaction (and their own!) to San Diego Comic Con influenced the timing and tone of the project. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 14: "The Winchesters" E10 - Prions & Proteins, Problems & Successes | 22 Nov 2023 | 01:27:34 | |
CONTENT WARNING: This episode includes discussions of Holocaust imagery and the medical and institutional history of targeting marginalized and oppressed groups for exploitation and experimentation. Please be mindful of your wellbeing when deciding to listen (Begins 19:14; Ends 30:18). Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 13.2: "The Winchesters" E9 - Red String Edition | 15 Nov 2023 | 00:55:04 | |
This episode begins with a discussion of fate vs luck in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" and the wider Supernatural franchise. Catherine and Chrisha then move on to monsters and gods, the differences between The Winchesters' vampires and the vampires from Supernatural (and what those differences might mean), and how the episode's music spoke into its themes. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 13.1: "The Winchesters" E9 - Fate vs Free Will | 08 Nov 2023 | 01:13:20 | |
In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss The Winchesters' episode "Cast Your Fate to the Wind," starting with the diversity presented behind the scenes and onscreen and moving on to the themes of free will versus fate and how what we think we see may not be the full story. They also talk about Mary's biggest fear, the progress between John and his mom, Lata's inability to keep a secret, Carlos' iconic holy water hair commercial, and much more! Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 11.2: "The Winchesters" E8 - Red String Edition | 01 Nov 2023 | 01:09:06 | |
In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine delve into what they've affectionately termed "the red string": trying to figure out what all the hints and mysteries behind each episode are leading to. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 12: Reaction To "The Winchesters" Finale | 08 Mar 2023 | 00:55:45 | |
SPOILER WARNING: This episode contains reactions to and discussions of The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye." Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 11.1: "The Winchesters" E8 - Dean is BACK! | 07 Mar 2023 | 01:38:34 | |
If you want to follow along with Chrisha's social media reveals, scroll down to find all the links!
They also look at Mary's strength in the face of pushy men, John's supportiveness and (sigh) incredibly romantic lines, Lata's continued ability to figure out all of the things, Carlos' amazing journey of rejecting the game, glitter explosions, and singing, and they try to nail down the history of Loki and Gabriel (which apparently even Jensen Ackles needs help with!).
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| 10.2: "The Winchesters" E7 - Reflections of Destiel and AU Madness | 28 Feb 2023 | 01:01:11 | |
In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine take out their red string and have fun trying to untangle the mess of what the heck is going on in the wider story. They look at look at the connections between the Akrida and Supernatural S7's Leviathan and delve further into differences between the two series: beyond the odd ghouls to the watchdogs left behind by the Men of Letters and the different way that magic seems to work. Yes, there is more talk about radio waves. Yes, they talk about the closet scene and the kiss scene and the reflections of Supernatural's "Despair." And they ponder the importance of Roxy's comment that "nothing of this Earth" can kill her. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 10.1: "The Winchesters" E7 - Odd Ghouls & Akrida Possession | 20 Feb 2023 | 01:14:16 | |
In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine look at the characters' journeys--everything from the psychological reasons for John's regression under pressure to Millie and Ada bonding to Carlos' knowledge of Latin. In the midst of it all, they talk about odd ghouls, the ins and outs of Akrida possession, and the implications for Robbie Thompson's interview with TV Line, where he teases that he hopes the reveal that the Akrida are from an AU "will drive some theories from our audience as to what we've been up to." Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 9.2: "The Winchesters" E6 - Red String, AUs, and Some Destiel | 11 Feb 2023 | 00:56:26 | |
Content Warning: This episode includes discussions of Dean Winchester's death. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 17.5: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Akrida Story | 03 Feb 2024 | 01:14:49 | |
CONTENT WARNING: There is a discussion of suicide and suidical ideation as it pertains to the characters of Akrida Kyle & Lata from The Winchesters and Dean from Supernatural. Please be aware and kind to yourselves, Wayward Friends. The portion that discusses this content is from 3:33 to 8:48 and has been marked as a chapter so you can easily skip it. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 9.1: "The Winchesters" E6 - barn Barn BARN Barn bArN (& Some Queerness) | 28 Jan 2023 | 01:21:20 | |
In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine talk about barns. A lot. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 8.2: "The Winchesters" E5 - F*** John Winchester, Red String Edition | 14 Dec 2022 | 00:50:38 | |
In Part 2 of their two-parter on The Winchesters' "Legacy of a Mind," Chrisha and Catherine pull out the red string. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 8.1: "The Winchesters" E5 - F*** John Winchester | 25 Nov 2022 | 01:12:31 | |
It was another massive recording session for episode five of The Winchesters, "Legacy of a Mind," so this week Chrisha and Catherine are breaking it down into two different parts. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 7: "The Winchesters" E4 - Trauma, Anger, Isolation, Community, & Healing | 21 Nov 2022 | 01:58:32 | |
Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of PTSD and John's self-harm behavior. I'm goin' where the sun keeps shinin' Wah, wah I'm going where the sun keeps shinin' Everybody's talkin' at me Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 6: "The Winchesters" E3 - Meta, Red String, & Radio Waves | 31 Oct 2022 | 01:36:19 | |
Episode 3 of The Winchesters was wild, and Catherine and Chrisha were definitely feeling like that gif of the guy with the red string by the end of recording this episode. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 5: "The Winchesters" E2 - Monstrous Parents & Generational Trauma | 24 Oct 2022 | 01:05:00 | |
Episode 2 of The Winchesters hit hard on the concept of monstrous parents, generational trauma, cycles of abuse, and finding yourself. From La Tunda, to Mary's relationship with Samuel, to John and Millie's fractious interactions, Chrisha and Catherine delve into and unpack the big and difficult concepts that this episode tackled. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 4: "The Winchesters" Pilot Thoughts ... So Many Thoughts! | 17 Oct 2022 | 01:27:27 | |
Chrisha and Catherine have SOOOOO many thoughts about The Winchesters' premiere. From discussions about all the new characters, the incredible music, the Easter eggs and the parallels between moments from this new show and Supernatural, to thoughts about what might, exactly, be going on with Dean, this episode has a little bit of everything. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 3: More Things "The Winchesters" | 09 Oct 2022 | 01:01:20 | |
There has been so much promotional material coming out about The Winchesters that Catherine and Chrisha have literally not been able to keep up!
Twitter discourse that got part of the conversation started:
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| 2: All Things "The Winchesters" | 12 Sep 2022 | 01:05:23 | |
In this full length episode, Chrisha and Catherine go into a more in-depth look at the upcoming series, The Winchesters. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 1: "The Winchesters" - A New Series & A New Project | 02 Sep 2022 | 00:18:42 | |
The Fangirl Business is BACK with a new episode teasing their new project: the upcoming series, The Winchesters. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 17.4: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Jack Problem (Plus Baby, Cas, & A Bit Of Destiel) | 27 Jan 2024 | 01:17:56 | |
In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine start the discussion with Jack and his odd behavior at the end of Supernatural and during The Winchesters' finale before moving on to talk about Baby, The Winchesters' title card and its connection to the Akrida, and the logistics behind Cas' absence. The conclude by reflecting on what was left unresolved and what was healing for them personally. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 43: Radio Company's "Watching Over Me" & Some Squee | 01 Feb 2022 | 01:22:51 | |
Content Warning: This episode contains audio from Castiel's confession scene. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 42.3: Deconstructing "Carry On" - From Dean's Funeral to the Bridge Reunion | 04 Apr 2021 | 01:37:54 | |
*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting at Dean's funeral and ending at the bridge reunion. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*
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| 42.2: Deconstructing "Carry On" - The Barn and Dean's Death Scene | 04 Mar 2021 | 01:15:41 | |
*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting with a discussion of the barn setting and including the entirety of Dean's death scene. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*
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| 42.1: Deconstructing "Carry On" - From Recap to Vamp Fight | 23 Feb 2021 | 01:31:18 | |
*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On" up to and including the vampire fight, but prior to Dean's death. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*
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| 41: Announcing "Reclaiming Supernatural" | 17 Feb 2021 | 00:40:01 | |
Note: Due to life, an abundance of excellent series rewatch podcasts, and the new series The Winchesters, "Reclaiming Supernatural" has been put on the back burner for the immediate future. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 40: State of the Fandom - Post Finale Edition | 30 Jan 2021 | 01:10:35 | |
*S15E20 SPOILERS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE* Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 39: "Carry On" - Pain, Trauma, and Processing | 01 Dec 2020 | 01:34:28 | |
*S15E20 SPOILERS BELOW* In their overview of Supernatural’s finale, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their personal reactions and the many triggers embedded within the narrative. Note: There are no audio clips in this episode of The Fangirl Business. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of abuse, childlessness, ableism, misogyny, queer erasure, suicide, & suicidal ideation.
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PS: Catherine here. I say at one point that the CW is generally progressive. We recorded this before I realized just how much hurt the CW has inflicted to other audiences this year, including Riverdale and The 100. I have been so saddened and upset to learn all of this. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 38.2: "Inherit the Earth," "Fanfiction," & Reciprocal Destiel Hopes | 19 Nov 2020 | 01:52:04 | |
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| 38.1: "Inherit the Earth" - From "WTAF?" to "GENIUS!" | 18 Nov 2020 | 01:30:10 | |
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| 37.2: "Despair," Destiel, & Dessert - Feelings, Analysis, Hope ... and Pie! | 13 Nov 2020 | 02:15:08 | |
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| 17.3: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Dean Story | 17 Jan 2024 | 01:20:16 | |
In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss how the car scene at the end of the episode should have been, as a giant infodump, dull--and yet it was not (thanks, Ackles and Thompson!). They also discuss the clapbacks to the Supernatural finale, how dying and going through the multiverse changed Dean, the John and Dean role reversals, how the concept of reparenting applies in a very Supernatural way, and delve deep into Dean's monologue at the end of the episode. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 37.1: "Despair" - Context, Guest Stars, TFW2.0, and....Kale! | 12 Nov 2020 | 01:10:48 | |
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| 36.2: "Unity," Humans, Seraphs, and Free Will (and our very last subtext episode!) | 11 Nov 2020 | 00:48:47 | |
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| 36.1: "Unity," Dean's Rage, Sam's Vulnerability, and Cas' Free Will | 11 Nov 2020 | 01:41:42 | |
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| 34.2: "Drag Me Away (From You)", Musical Subtext, and Dean's Sexuality | 07 Nov 2020 | 00:34:00 | |
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| 35: "Despair" and DESTIELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL | 06 Nov 2020 | 00:18:57 | |
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| 34.1 "Drag Me Away (From You)", Childhood Trauma, & Characterization Choices | 05 Nov 2020 | 01:33:50 | |
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| 33.2: "Gimme Shelter", Shipping, and End Game Musings | 31 Oct 2020 | 00:55:21 | |
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| 33.1: The Dark Side of Humanity & Gifts from Deities in "Gimme Shelter" | 30 Oct 2020 | 01:35:57 | |
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| 32: Theories - The Mystery of the Garden; Free Will; the Beginning and the End | 24 Oct 2020 | 01:20:28 | |
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| 31: Cuteness, Torture, and Parenting in "Last Holiday" | 18 Oct 2020 | 01:27:05 | |
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| 17.2: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Monster Club Story | 10 Jan 2024 | 01:35:25 | |
In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine catch up on what's been going on behind the scenes with each other, the writers' and actors' strikes and victories, the ongoing trash-fires at networks and streamers, and their gratitude to folks behind The Winchesters for giving fans a thoughtful and healing ending. Follow us on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social | |||
| 30: "Galaxy Brain" and "Destiny's Child" ... Shipping Edition | 06 Oct 2020 | 01:09:04 | |
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