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Chrisha and Catherine are BACK to celebrate the 5th anniversary of the "I love you" heard around the world in Supernatural's episode "Despair."

They begin with an update on how they are both doing (spoiler alert: shipwreck documentaries and true crime are major pasttimes at the moment) and their take on the current status of fandom in general.

They then move on to the events from Purgatory Con 9, which took place in Dusseldorf, Germany, from May 31st-June 1st, 2025. They focus in particularly on Jensen talking about the meaning of "Watching Over Me" and his approbation as he listened to Misha discuss "Despair"'s homosexual declaration of love. 

As part of this discussion, they contrast their past worry about getting things wrong in their analysis with their current, more relaxed feeling about approaching Supernatural-related material, even without the confirmation of figures like Ackles.

Their conclusion: If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a f***ing duck, y'all. And that's how they're going to approach everything from now on.

Note: The question Jensen answered about "Watching Over Me" was from @blanketforcas.bsky.social, who kindly provided us with a transcript of what she asked here after this episode went live! Thanks, Tess!

Credits:

• PurCon 9 Audio of Jensen talking about "Watching Over Me": meat+salt on X
• Article "'Supernatural' Fans are Losing It Over Jensen Ackles' Latest Confession": Lauren Gordon for Parade
• "I wrote 'Watching Over Me' for us" Destiel News Meme: dclovesdestiel on Tiktok
• Purcon 9 Text of Misha's answer to the query of what would have happened if Castiel arrived on S1: Drula aka CasIsLoved on X (via castiels-influence on tumblr)
• PurCon 9 Audio of Jensen and Misha's introduction on stage: MishsMaroon on X
• PurCon gif set of Misha talking about how "Despair" happened: purewasteland on tumblr

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Join Chrisha and Catherine for a chaotic episode where all of the things that can happen in the background at Catherine's apartment do while they try to talk all about the music in the finale of The Winchesters.

Topics range from just how exactly Dean did time- and universe-travel, to his kidnapping of the President of the United States, his introspection and shift from an active fighter to a guide, the City of Angels and the City of Love, and lots of Destiel musings. 

The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW
Supernatural  audio clip credits: The WB; The CW
Music clip credits: "Take a Stand" by Homer Greencastle; "Keep On Ramblin'" by Radio Company; "Baba O'Riley" by The Who; "LA Woman" by The Doors; "Americana" by Jay Gruska; "One of These Things First" by Nick Drake; "Watching Over Me" by Radio Company; "Ramble On" by Led Zeppelin; "That's No Way To Say Goodbye" by Leonard Cohen
Radio Company live concert credit: "Let Me Be" on Hannah Young's Youtube channel
Info about how the Ackles got "Ramble On": hermscat on Tumblr and Sharon87 on Twitter (Thanks, Tess, for the info and links! Wayward Friends, turns out Jensen went without salary for The Winchesters' finale so they could pay for the song--and a lot of work went on behind the scenes to get permission to use it!)

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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the way that the series thus far has been a healing experience for many from Supernatural's finale, Mary's response to Betty and to John's arrest, the revelations about John while he's in police custody, Lata's journey of letting go of things that were not hers to carry, the monster of the week (Erebus), Carlos' support role whilst maintaining his delightful personality, and Millie's personal growth.

The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW
Supenatural  audio clip credits: The CW
Music clip credits: "Don't Fear the Reaper" by Blue Öyster Cult; "Turn into Earth" by The Yardbirds

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Welcome to The Fangirl Business! In this brief promo episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss how they met and bonded over Supernatural, and how that friendship ultimately spawned a podcast!

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Welcome to The Fangirl Business! In this brief promo episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their educational and professional backgrounds, including what role their expertise will play in their academic fangirling over Season 15. The co-hosts also discuss their Supernatural fandom origin stories, and how they each came to find their home within the #SPNFamily.  

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Welcome to The Fangirl Business! In this brief promo episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss why they chose to begin recording the podcast before Season 15 airs, and how the fandom reaction (and their own!) to San Diego Comic Con influenced the timing and tone of the project.

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode includes discussions of Holocaust imagery and the medical and institutional history of targeting marginalized and oppressed groups for exploitation and experimentation. Please be mindful of your wellbeing when deciding to listen (Begins 19:14; Ends 30:18).

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the troubling elements of "Suspicious Minds", questioning some of the decisions that were made and discussing the real-life roots of the tradition of the medical and institutional horror genre in the legacy of white supremacy.

They also talk about what is and isn't love, Carlos' and Lata's developing romantic relationships, the experience of being a vessel and Roxy's storyline, the Akrida's plot to frame John for the murder of Kyle, and Dean's new photo.

The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW
Supenatural  audio clip credits: The CW
Music clips: "Suspicious Minds" by Elvis Presley

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This episode begins with a discussion of fate vs luck in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" and the wider Supernatural franchise. Catherine and Chrisha then move on to monsters and gods, the differences between The Winchesters' vampires and the vampires from Supernatural (and what those differences might mean), and how the episode's music spoke into its themes.

The bulk of the conversation focuses on the scene in the Red Room, its contrasts and parallels with "Despair" and "Carry On" (as usual, no audio clips are used for the latter), and the kiss between Carlos and Anton!

The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW
Supenatural  audio clip credits: The WB; The CW
Music clips: "Bad Moon Rising" by Clearance Creedwater Revival; "Americana" theme by Jay Gruska; "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" by Vince Guaraldi & Carel Werber (clips from 1966 Shelby Flint and and 1967 Johnny Rivers versions); "Cadillac" by Lassie; "Rats" by The Kinks

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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss The Winchesters' episode "Cast Your Fate to the Wind," starting with the diversity presented behind the scenes and onscreen and moving on to the themes of free will versus fate and how what we think we see may not be the full story. They also talk about Mary's biggest fear, the progress between John and his mom, Lata's inability to keep a secret, Carlos' iconic holy water hair commercial, and much more!

The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW

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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine delve into what they've affectionately termed "the red string": trying to figure out what all the hints and mysteries behind each episode are leading to.

Topics include: What the HELL was Chuck doing onstage in the episode?; Dean's mysterious reappearance and its implications for the series; Jojo's Insta live and its implications for Destiel and queer Dean; The connections between this episode and Supernatural's "Last Call"; Alice in Wonderland themes; Lastly, the episode's music and its connection with themes from the show and fandom. 


The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW
Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
SPN NashCon 2022 audio clip credits: ladywinchester1967 on YouTube
Music clip credits: "Hard Times Come Again No More" by Jojo Fleites & Louden Swain; "Rebel" by John Moran; "Saturday Night Alright (For Fighting)" by Elton John; "Hang on to Your Life" by The Guess Who

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