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The Empathetic Trainer
Barbara O’Brien
Frequency: 1 episode/33d. Total Eps: 32

Welcome to ”The Empathetic Trainer,” the podcast that explores the power of empathetic animal training
Animals just want to be heard. This is an emerging trend among trainers, veterinarians, pet professionals and animal lovers just like yourself. Join us as we learn the challenges our guests faced, as they grew their understanding and connection with the animals in their lives.
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Find a Dog That is Going to Make You Happy - Denise Fenzi - S4 E28
Season 4 · Episode 28
lundi 9 février 2026 • Duration 01:01:41
“Find a dog that’s going to make you happy.”
I sit down with Denise Fenzi to talk about choosing the right dog for your real life — not the one you think you should want. We talk about fit, expectations, training, and working with the dog in front of you.
https://www.empathetic-trainer.com/
Listening Is Noticing — Amelia Thomas (S4 · E27)
Season 4 · Episode 27
jeudi 15 janvier 2026 • Duration 51:01
In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer, I talk with Amelia Thomas about what it really means to listen to animals.
We’re not talking about techniques or quick fixes. We’re talking about slowing down, paying attention, and noticing what animals are already showing us—often in very quiet, subtle ways. Amelia shares how listening starts with presence, not interpretation, and how that shift can change the way we relate to animals.
If you live or work with animals and have ever felt like there’s more going on than you can put into words, this conversation is for you.
https://www.empathetic-trainer.com/
Julie Smart - What Horses Want - Trust, Communication and Leadership
Season 2 · Episode 17
samedi 11 mai 2024 • Duration 01:15:05
New Zealand Horse advocate and author, Julie Smart joins Barbara O'Brien in a conversation not just about training, but about retraining ourselves to listen, to watch, and to feel the subtle cues that horses give us when trying to communicate.
We talk about how spending undemanding time with our horses changes how they feel about and us and can really help build a better, more trusting relationship. We also talk about how horses never stop learning and can be trained at any age with atunement and understanding.
Julie recommends books like 'True Horsemanship Through Feel' by Bill Dorrance and Leslie Desmond, and 'Warwick Schiller's Principles of Training'. Julie shares her biggest failure, which involved a horse named Ethel, and how it taught her the importance of not believing what others say about horsemanship. They also talk about fear and the need to acknowledge and respect it, as well as the luckiest thing that has happened to Julie, which is having her mother as a role model.
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Susan Friedland - The True Story of Marguerite Henry and Misty of Chincoteague S2 E16
Season 2 · Episode 16
mardi 16 avril 2024 • Duration 01:16:43
Susan Friedland and I explore the world of Marguerite Henry, a beloved author whose stories have enchanted readers for years. From "Misty of Chincoteague" to "King of the Wind" and so many others, Henry's books have made a lasting impression on people of all ages.
We talk about how much Henry loved horses, especially Morgan horses, and how her stories were influenced by her roots in the Midwest. Susan shares how Henry was kind and caring towards her readers, even writing them personal letters. Susan also had the chance to see original art by Wesley Dennis who illustrated many of Henry's books.
Our chat also touches on how Henry's books have inspired young readers to love horses and how they've brought horse lovers together. Whether we're talking about the excitement of the Chincoteague Pony Penning Swim or the comfort horses can bring, we celebrate Henry's legacy and the happiness her books bring to so many people.
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Laura Carter - What Your Dog Wants is You - S2 E15
Season 2 · Episode 15
mardi 2 avril 2024 • Duration 43:29
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Kera Wilhelmsen - You Want Your Dog to Trust You, Right? S2 E14
Season 2 · Episode 14
dimanche 24 mars 2024 • Duration 55:10
In this interview, Barbara O'Brien talks with Kara Wilhelmsen from Creature Comforts Pet Services about her approach to animal training. Kera stresses the importance of kindness and understanding when working with animals, rather than using fear or intimidation. She shares her experiences working with dogs, including her own challenges with a reactive border collie named Tayla. Kera emphasizes using positive reinforcement and empathy in training, focusing on relaxation techniques and behavior modification. She also discusses the need for owners to learn about science-based training methods and the importance of reading dogs' body language. Kara warns against quick fixes and misinformation in training, and encourages empathy and compassion in both human and animal interactions.
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Lockie Phillips - When it comes to Horses, Obedience is Out and Empathy is In - S2 E3
Season 2 · Episode 13
vendredi 23 février 2024 • Duration 01:25:57
Lockie Phillips, Founder of Emotional Horsemanship, joins us on our podcast to share his insights on empathy and horses. He tells us how we can reimagine horse training and move beyond obedience to establish a deeper connection based on compassion.
Lockie believes that training programs should be horse centered and focused on the well- being of the horse rather than performance. And that real change requires patience, understanding and the willingness to adapt to the individual needs of each horse.
This episode paints a hopeful picture of a future where the bond between horses and humans grows stronger through empathy and understanding. Join us as we explore this transformative philosophy in equine care and training.
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Lynn Acton - Alternatives to Dominance Based Horsemanship - S2 E12
Season 2 · Episode 12
mardi 30 janvier 2024 • Duration 01:10:03
Tune in to hear Lynn Acton, acclaimed author and horse trainer, share practical tips on how to build trust and connection with your horse. Learn about the basics of earning trust, using clear body language, moving away from dominance based training, and understanding horses' emotions. Lynn also talks about being a protector leader and what horses really want from us. Get simple and actionable advice for creating a strong bond with horses and keeping them happy by avoiding unnecessary stress. Whether you're a horse enthusiast or just curious, Lynn's down-to-earth wisdom makes it easy to connect with these amazing animals.
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Mikel Delgado - The Big Problem? They Don't Understand Cats - S2 E11
Season 2 · Episode 11
vendredi 26 janvier 2024 • Duration 57:52
Join us as we speak with cat behaviorist, Mikel Delgado about how your cat's name can affect its personality and why it's hard for some cats to just get along. Learn about Mikel's journey from being in a punk rock band to cat expert. Learn how to make a happy home for multiple cats and discover easy ways to keep your cat content.Get simple tips to take better care of your cat and enjoy a closer connection. Tune in for an enlightening and fun chat about cats!
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Dr. Susan Fay - Sacred Spaces - Communicating with the Horse through Science and Spirit - S1 E10
Season 1 · Episode 10
vendredi 22 décembre 2023 • Duration 58:32
Summary
Dr. Susan Faye discusses the importance of horses in our lives and the lessons they teach us. She emphasizes the need for emotional awareness and being present with horses and other animals. Dr. Faye explains how energy regulation and acknowledging our emotions can improve our relationships with animals. She also discusses her book 'Sacred Spaces' and the science behind the connection between humans and horses. Dr. Faye shares her experiences with horses and the transformative power of going slow. She encourages listeners to be in the world in a more meaningful way and make a positive impact.
Takeaways
- Emotional awareness and regulation are essential for building a strong connection with horses and other animals.
- Being present and regulated in our interactions with animals can improve their well-being and our relationship with them.
- Going slow and taking the time to understand horses can lead to transformative experiences and build trust.
- Energy awareness and being congruent with our emotions can enhance communication and understanding with animals.
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