Where there is darkness, there is an immense opportunity for light.
The Big Silence aims to normalize conversations around mental health and empower people to turn their challenges into triumphs. Hosted by Karena Dawn – mental health advocate, wellness entrepreneur, co-founder of Tone It Up, and New York Times bestselling author – The Big Silence is creating a safe space to share our story, and for you to share yours.
Like so many, Karena has experienced profound grief and trauma. Growing up with a mother diagnosed with paranoid-schizophrenia, her childhood was filled with traumatic experiences that resulted in repressed emotions of guilt, shame, depression, and eventually, a suicide attempt. Though filled with this darkness, Karena was able to find deep joy. And with The Big Silence, she's creating a space for you to find that joy, too.
This podcast will feature in-depth conversations with psychologists, spiritual leaders, public figures, friends, and anyone who has been impacted by a mental health condition – either themselves, or through a family member or a friend.
Suffering in silence only reinforces the stigma behind mental health issues and builds boundaries that prevent healing. Wherever you are, whatever you're going through, you have a spark of greatness inside of you.
No more embarrassment, no more shame, only healing.
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A non-profit 501(c)3, The Big Silence Foundation provides resources and support to anyone directly or indirectly impacted by mental illness.
'The Big Silence' theme song was written and performed by James Nicholas Kinney.
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What happens when you fight for a year to reclaim the company you built—and finally win?
In this raw, emotional solo episode of The Big Silence, Karena Dawn breaks her silence and shares the news her community has been waiting for: she's bought back Tone It Up. After founding the company in 2009 at age 27, taking on investors in 2018, navigating a complicated acquisition, and spending the last year in intense negotiations, Karena now owns 100% of Tone It Up—with no investors. She opens up about the highs and lows of private equity, the days she wanted to walk away, why she stayed, and what's coming next for the community. From bringing back fan-favorite trainers to launching the new "Tone It Down" podcast, this episode is both a celebration and a masterclass in resilience. If you've ever fought for something you believed in, rebuilt yourself, or wondered what it takes to start over at 44, this one's for you.
How do you hold on when everything feels like it's falling apart—and what does it take to reclaim what's yours?
Fighting through years of uncertainty, negotiation, and emotional exhaustion proves that resilience isn't about never wanting to quit. It's about staying when every part of you wants to walk away.
(00:00) The Big Announcement
Why this moment is both exciting and nerve-wracking for her
The core mission behind Tone It Up: creating a safe, judgment-free community for women
What The Big Silence is really about: breaking stigmas around mental health and self-development
(03:00) What Happened in 2018? The Investor Story & Growing Pains
The reality of working with investors: when good intentions don't lead to good relationships
The emotional toll of the past 7-8 years: days she wanted to walk away vs. days she knew she had to stay
Growing up with the community: from 27 to 44, supporting each other through motherhood, loss, marriage, divorce, and perimenopause
(07:00) The Year-Long Fight to Get Tone It Up Back
Why Karena spent the last year behind the scenes in intense negotiations
The intuition that kept telling her: "I just want it back, big or small."
How she funded the buyback
(09:30) What's Next: The Future of Tone It Up
New fitness challenge launching in the Tone It Up app
The big reunion: Chyna, Stef, and Tori are back and just filmed workouts in Austin, Texas
New content across all platforms: YouTube, TikTok, Pinterest, Instagram—all socials are back
Building a home studio to create more fitness content for the community
(12:00) Introducing "Tone It Down" Podcast & How to Participate
A new podcast launching in January with episodes featuring Tori, Stef, and Chyna
Solo episodes where Karena will answer community questions
How to participate: leave voicemails at speakpipe.com/karenadawn
The Big Silence will focus on mental health and self-development; Tone It Down will be fitness, nutrition, and womanhood
Reconnect with yourself and your community:
We start the New Year, New TI-YOU Challenge January 5th in the Tone It Up App. Just download the Tone It Up App at ToneItUp.com/app and we will see you January 5th!
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Why Clean Air Matters | Jaspr’s Wes Greenwood on Mold Illness, Air Quality & Inflammation
Episode 175
Wednesday, November 26, 2025 • Duration 58:47
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What if the invisible air around you was quietly impacting your sleep, your energy, and your overall health?
In this eye-opening episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with Wes Greenwood, Wellness Director at Jaspr and a former firefighter-turned-air quality expert. From his decade as a first responder exposed to hazardous environments to his personal journey through mold illness and autoimmune challenges, Wes shares why clean air is just as essential as clean water and food. He breaks down the science of air quality, reveals surprising truths about what's floating in your home, and offers practical tools for better sleep, reduced inflammation, and improved mental clarity. Whether you're dealing with allergies, poor sleep, or just want to optimize your health, this conversation will change how you think about the air you breathe.
How do you protect your health when the invisible toxins in your home could be affecting everything from your sleep to your cognitive function?
Understanding air quality and taking control of your environment proves that wellness starts with the basics, including what you breathe.
(05:00) Why Nobody's Talking About Indoor Air Quality
Breaking down particulate matter: the invisible particles floating in your air
Why PM 2.5 (2.5 microns) is the most dangerous size for human health
The link between these particles and inflammation throughout the body
How PM 2.5 affects cognitive decline and overall well-being
Why people are oblivious to indoor air quality issues
(10:00) Testing Air Quality: Inside vs. Outside Your Home
Monica Berg on Family Dynamics, Boundaries & Showing Up as Your Best Self this Holiday Season
Episode 174
Wednesday, November 19, 2025 • Duration 40:43
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What if the holiday season could be about joy and connection instead of stress and obligation?
In this timely episode of The Big Silence, Karena welcomes back spiritual teacher, author, and podcaster Monica Berg for a conversation we all need before the holidays. From managing difficult family dynamics to preparing your mind and heart for gatherings, Monica shares practical wisdom on how to show up with presence, set boundaries, and actually enjoy the season. Whether you're dreading a particular family member, feeling financial pressure, or just want to navigate the holidays with more peace, this episode will help you shift your mindset and reclaim your power. It's about being proactive, not reactive—and choosing to be the light in any room.
How do you prepare yourself mentally and emotionally for family gatherings and show up with gratitude instead of anxiety?
True holiday peace comes from taking responsibility for your own state of mind and choosing to be a being of sharing rather than lack.
(00:00) Revisiting Past Conversations & How We've Changed
Monica returns three years after her first appearance (episode 25)
How relationships evolve and why revisiting old conversations reveals growth
The importance of being in different environments to recognize change
An essential holiday conversation about family dynamics
(02:00) The Pressure of the Holidays & Society's "Shoulds"
Why certain times of year create unrealistic expectations for happiness
The pressure to be joyful and how that can sabotage gatherings
Monica's story about feeling the weight of seasonal expectations
Designing Your World: Celebrity Intuitive Laura Day on How to Create the Life You Want
Episode 173
Wednesday, November 5, 2025 • Duration 01:00:18
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What if your intuition was the key to rewriting your story?
In this illuminating episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with bestselling author and renowned intuitive Laura Day, whose new book The Prism: Seven Steps to Heal Your Past and Transform Your Future offers a groundbreaking roadmap for change. From a traumatic childhood and family loss to becoming a sought-after healer for global leaders and celebrities, Laura opens up about how she turned survival into spiritual alchemy, proving that transformation is not about escaping your past. It’s about learning to use it as your light source.
How Do You Heal the Parts of You That Formed Before You Could Choose Them?
Our early experiences shape us long before we’re aware of them. Laura shares how understanding the ego’s formation can help us rewrite our internal programming.
(1:00) The Prism and the Power of the “I”
The Prism is about reclaiming the much-maligned ego, the “machinery” that allows us to create our world
By age seven, our ego is fully formed; from there, every challenge becomes a catalyst for change.
Why change should be taught in second grade
The ego isn’t the enemy of spirituality; it’s the structure that gives creation shape.
(06:00) Breaking the Cycle of Trauma and the Parentified Child
Becoming the adult at age five for her younger siblings
The difference between being a motherless child and a parentified child, and how early responsibility shapes identity
Normalized a chaotic environment
Building resilience through trauma, and observing life rather than collapsing into it
(14:00) Intuition, Empathy, and Doing the Work(21:00) Moving Through Pain: Tiny Goals and Practical Healing(29:00) Love, Trust, and Boundaries(31:00) Turning Intuition Into Impact(48:00) Living What You Teach
From Rock Bottom to Redemption: Country Music Star Chase McDaniel on Addiction, Anxiety, and Turning Trauma into Art
Episode 172
Wednesday, October 29, 2025 • Duration 56:31
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What if your lowest moment became the foundation for your purpose?
In this heartfelt episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with country music artist Chase McDaniel, who transformed generational trauma, addiction, and mental illness into powerful storytelling through his debut album Lost Ones. From growing up in rural Kentucky with an addicted father to facing panic attacks, suicidal thoughts, and the long road to self-love, Chase’s story is both devastating and deeply inspiring. He shares how music became his therapy, how faith reshaped his outlook, and how he learned to live and love again.
How Do You Heal When Pain Feels Like the Only Thing You Know?
Chase opens up about breaking generational trauma, finding purpose through art, and learning that strength isn’t about faking perfection; it’s more like honesty.
(01:00) Growing Up in Chaos — Finding Strength in Small-Town Kentucky
A childhood surrounded by addiction, violence, and uncertainty
How he discovered stability and unconditional love
His family’s gym became both a sanctuary and a symbol of survival
That bond inspired “What I Didn’t Have”
(10:00) Breaking the Cycle of Pain and Addiction
Mental illness and suicide ran deep, stories long kept silent
The moment he chose to live differently: “I don’t have to live as the victim.”
How truth-telling frees families from generational trauma
Healing begins when we stop protecting the lie
Guest Resources
Stronger Every Day: Kion Co-Founder Angelo Keely’s Science-Backed Guide to Aminos, Protein, Recovery & Resilience
Episode 171
Wednesday, October 22, 2025 • Duration 46:58
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What if one terrifying night became the catalyst for a lifetime of healing?
In this powerhouse episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with Angelo Keely, co-founder and CEO of Kion, to unpack his extraordinary path—from a near-fatal stabbing at 16 to building a company rooted in simple, consistent habits that support both muscle and mood. Angelo breaks down protein (in plain English), and you’ll learn how small, repeatable choices can stack up into real change. He also explains why essential amino acids and creatine are especially impactful as we age. If you’ve wondered how to protect muscle, sharpen your mind, or support mental health without going “all or nothing,” this one’s for you.
How Do We Build Muscle and Mood—At Any Age—With Protein, Aminos, Creatine, and Consistent Habits?
Angelo shares the science and the systems that actually work, and how to choose one tiny action you can repeat every day for real impact.
(00:01:00) What Kion Is—and Why Angelo Says You Don’t “Need” It
Principle first, product second: Food comes first; EAAs are a targeted way to stimulate muscle protein synthesis with fewer calories.
Non-workout days matter: EAAs still drive protein synthesis—even on rest days.
Consistency > intensity: Angelo takes EAAs every morning (often with creatine) to “tell” his body to rebuild.
Better together: Taking EAAs before training leverages increased blood flow for greater impact.
(00:05:30) From Bad Trip to Bigger Life: Trauma, Accountability, and 20 Years of Integration
The turning point: A severe LSD episode led to assault and multiple stab wounds—sparking a decades-long healing journey.
(00:14:30) Protein 101: Why EAAs Can Beat Whey—and Whey Often Beats Steak(00:31:30) Creatine & Women: Strength, Cognition, and Mood—Minus the “Bloat” Myth(00:40:30) Weight Loss Without Muscle Loss: GLP-1s, Deficits & The Case for More Protein/EAAs
From Hustle Culture to Human Be-ing: Israa Nasir on Anxiety, Boundaries & Dismantling Toxic Productivity
Episode 170
Wednesday, October 15, 2025 • Duration 43:42
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What if redefining success started with your nervous system?
In this powerful, live from New York conversation, Karena sits down with therapist and author Israa Nasir to unpack why achievement alone can still leave us feeling empty. You’ll learn how to rebuild self-worth and regulate anxiety in a content-saturated world, and how to set boundaries that deepen connection. From cultural myths about “hustle” to cognitive distortions, this is a grounded, practical path back to yourself.
How do we reclaim self-worth beyond achievement in a content-saturated world?
Stepping off the productivity hamster wheel shows that worth isn’t earned by output. It’s built through nervous-system safety, self-trust, and boundaries that honor your life.
(00:59) Toxic productivity, defined- spot the drivers
Naming the emotions behind the urge to do more
Ask: “What value am I sacrificing for this outcome?”
Track when achievement ≠ fulfillment to find misalignment
Swap “more” for “meaning”: one priority per day
(06:11) High-achiever mind traps + overcommitment fixes
Challenging the idea “If I did it, it must’ve been easy—so it doesn’t count.”
Guest Resources
Surviving the Jump: Kevin Hines on Miracles, Mental Health & Finding Love Beyond the Pain
Episode 169
Wednesday, October 8, 2025 • Duration 39:59
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What if the moment you thought would end your life became the start of a mission to save millions?
In this extraordinary episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with suicide prevention advocate, storyteller, and best-selling author Kevin Hines. At 19, Kevin jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge — and lived to talk about it. Since then, his journey has become a beacon of hope, proving that resilience, love, and the right words at the right time can rewrite any story. From the sea lion that kept him afloat to the love story that began in a psych ward, Kevin shares the lessons he’s learned about staying, surviving, and thriving.
How do you find the will to live when your own mind tells you otherwise?
Kevin shows us that survival is not just possible. It can be the foundation for a life full of purpose, healing, and connection.
(00:00) From Trauma to Adoption: The Early Years
Kevin’s childhood of neglect, poverty, and losing his brother in foster care
How the Hines family gave him stability, love, and a new beginning
Hiding behind the mask of “everything’s fine”
(07:57) Living With Bipolar Disorder & Suicidal Ideation
Why silence and shame keep so many from getting help
Kevin’s mantra: “My thoughts do not have to become my actions”
The four words that have kept him alive for 25 years
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Turning Fear Into Creative Fuel: Actor Josh Pais’ Secrets to Presence & Creativity
Episode 168
Wednesday, October 1, 2025 • Duration 52:47
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What if fear wasn’t an enemy to conquer, but a source of fuel for creativity?
In this powerful episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with actor, teacher, and Committed Impulse founder, Josh Pais. From growing up in New York’s gritty Alphabet City to starring in over 150 films and shows alongside legends like Robert De Niro, Meryl Streep, and Joaquin Phoenix, Josh’s story is one of resilience, presence, and creative freedom. He opens up about his new book, Lose Your Mind, how anxiety can become fuel instead of a roadblock, and why the unknown is the most powerful space for growth. Whether you’re an artist, entrepreneur, or simply trying to quiet the self-judgment in your head, Josh’s wisdom will shift the way you experience fear and creativity.
How can we reframe fear as a source of creative energy?
Josh reveals how fear, anxiety, and even sadness aren’t enemies to suppress but sensations to ride — opening the door to authentic expression, connection, and freedom.
(00:01:00) From Ninja Turtles to Neuroscience
How Josh’s father, a physicist who worked with Einstein, influenced his view of emotions as atomic vibrations.
Early struggles with anxiety and why suppressing fear disconnects us from authenticity.
(00:11:30) The Four Access Points to Presence
Josh’s simple framework: “I’m back,” body awareness, breath, and environment.
Why tuning into sensation creates connection, from courtroom lawyers to surgeons in the OR.
How these tools help shift from self-judgment into creativity.
Guest Resources
Vanessa Rissetto: A CEO’s Honest Take on Nutrition, Mental Health, and Saying What You Mean is great
Episode 167
Wednesday, September 24, 2025 • Duration 51:09
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What happens when a cancer diagnosis collides with raising $10 million in venture capital?
On this episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with Vanessa Rissetto, registered dietitian, CEO and co-founder of Culina Health, and cancer survivor who’s redefining resilience. From growing up in a Haitian household to building the only nutrition company backed by a big insurance provider, Vanessa’s story is proof that success is about more than grit — it’s about honesty, boundaries, and balance. She opens up about her diagnosis, how entrepreneurship pushed her to the brink, and why learning to say “no” has become her ultimate health strategy.
How Do We Redefine Health and Success Beyond Hustle Culture?
Vanessa shares how her cancer journey shifted her perspective from chasing external validation to prioritizing joy, mental health, and self-care, while still leading a groundbreaking health-tech company.
(00:01:00) From Dietitian to Tech CEO: Building Culina Health
Why Vanessa decided to take insurance when most dietitians catered only to the elite
How COVID opened doors for telehealth and scaled her business to $1M in under a year
The bold move that got Blue Cross Blue Shield on her cap table — a first in the industry
Her mindset shift: every investor “no” was just practice for the next “yes”
(00:10:30) Cancer, Entrepreneurship, and the Cost of External Validation
The overlooked symptom that led to Vanessa’s breast cancer diagnosis
Guest Resources
Karena's surprise: her outdoor air was worse than indoor
Why every house is different: size, HVAC systems, pets, and movement all matter
How pets affect air quality
How Jaspr improves air quality
(18:00) Sleep, Air Quality & The Inflammation Connection
How poor air quality causes runny noses, blocked airways, and disrupted sleep
Why you can't reach deep rest when your body is fighting airborne irritants
The impact of clean air on sleep quality and recovery
Wes's personal journey: mold illness and autoimmune recovery
(28:00) Breathwork as Medicine: Practical Tools for Anxiety & Stress
Simple breathwork routines that actually work
Why controlling your breath is one of the most powerful tools you have
How mold exposure affects the body's systems
(38:00) Austin Air Quality: Cedar Allergies & Real Solutions
Why Austin residents deal with constant allergies
The habit of "prophylactic antihistamines" and why it's not ideal
How Karena's body adapted over five years—and why she still needs support
Practical tips for anyone moving to or visiting Austin
The importance of having clean air in your bedroom
(46:00) The Gratitude-Breathwork Connection
Breathing particulate-free air as meditation
How to access gratitude even when it's hard
The one-two combo: breathwork + gratitude as an anxiety antidote
Karena's ritual: cold plunge, pool time, and just being present
(50:00) Prevention Over Treatment: Investing in Your Health Now
Wellness items can be pricey, but prevention saves money later
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Recognizing that every day can be meaningful, not just holidays
(03:00) Should You Even Go? When to Skip the Gathering
Monica's honest take: if you hate going, maybe you shouldn't attend
How negative energy affects everyone in the room
The responsibility of getting your consciousness right before showing up
Why forcing it doesn't work
(04:30) Identifying Your Triggers & Preparing for Difficult Conversations
What to do when you're dreading the holidays but still want to attend
Identifying the source of your anxiety
Preparing responses ahead of time for intrusive questions
Redirecting conversations and setting boundaries with grace
How to say "I'm not comfortable discussing that right now" with confidence
(05:30) The Morning Routine That Changes Everything
How to mentally prepare yourself before walking into a family gathering
Awakening gratitude by imagining what the day would look like if you were alone
Doing things you love in the morning to release stress and awaken joy
Showing up with intention rather than worry
Going in with a plan for the conversations you want to have
(07:50) Being Proactive vs. Reactive in Family Settings
Understanding the difference between reactive and proactive behavior
Why reactive people bring chaos, while proactive people create peace
Taking charge of your own thoughts and emotions
Honoring your power instead of giving it away to others' opinions
(25:00) Beyond Holiday Gatherings: Tips for All of Life
How these tools apply to any stressful situation—meetings, dinner parties, etc.
Addressing financial anxiety around
Why empathy is “a psychiatric illness”
True healing comes not from identifying with others’ pain but from finding solutions for them.
“Understanding comes five years after you’ve solved the problem.”
Small, tangible shifts, the “doing”, over endless introspection
When life feels unbearable, start with small, manageable goals
“Deal with the mammal first.” Care for your physical body before chasing spiritual breakthroughs.
Hope doesn’t precede healing; it follows it. You don’t have to feel better to start acting better.
“You won’t find hope in the depths of your misery. You’ll find it in movement.”
Love is a choice, not blind faith: “Trust means belief without evidence. I have evidence of my love.”
Learning boundaries later in life and how porosity versus structure is a lifelong balance.
Avoid “magical thinking” in relationships. Build proof, not fantasy.
The healthiest relationships are co-created and constantly evolving
How predicting major business outcomes and aiding in medical breakthroughs became her life’s work
Intuition is not mystical — it’s mechanical: “We are machines in a mechanical world. Change how you operate, and your world changes.”
The Prism offers practical exercises for identifying where you feel discomfort and taking one small, different action.
You don’t need to understand your trauma to heal it. You just need to do something new.
How she lives in...
(17:00) Panic Attacks, OCD, and the Search for Control
The concussion that ended Chase’s athletic career and triggered relentless panic attacks
Years of isolation led him to believe he was losing his mind
“My dorm room felt like it was shrinking every day.”
Learning to identify triggers, seek help, and rebuild trust in his mind became his turning point
(24:00) Love, Faith, and Learning to Stay
Love once felt like a survival tactic—until he learned to receive it
“Imagine a version of you that doesn’t feel this way anymore. That’s who you’re fighting for.”
Now in a healthy, patient relationship, he calls love “an act of courage.”
Faith re-entered his life while writing Lost Ones, reframing his survival as purpose.
(33:00) Finding Purpose Through Music: The Making of Lost Ones
Chase wrote Lost Ones to process trauma and leave a legacy of hope.
“Before I Let You Go” became a letter to his late father—and to himself.
His favorite track, “What I Didn’t Have,” honors the grandparents who saved him
“I was desperate to get this album out before I died. It’s my reason to live.”
(43:00) Turning Pain into Purpose
Fans have shared how his songs saved their lives and, in turn, healed him.
“You’re not alone” isn’t just a slogan; it’s lived experience
Authenticity over image and purpose over fame
“If I can make someone’s life a little easier, that’s the real mission.”
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