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The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast
Kris Rocha & Jenn Howie
Frequency: 1 episode/24d. Total Eps: 42

Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath.
Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Kris and Jenn delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph.
If you'd like to support our podcast, you can find our Patreon here: https://patreon.com/TheBetrayalRecoveryTransformationPodcast
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10/02/2026#88
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One-sided Healing with Lyschel Burket
Episode 41
mardi 3 février 2026 • Duration 01:05:14
Healing after betrayal is hard enough—but what happens when you’re doing the work alone? In this honest and hope-filled conversation, we sit down with Lyschel Burket, founder of Hope Redefined Ministries, to explore the realities of one-sided healing.
Lyschel brings deep compassion, biblical truth, and hard-earned wisdom to a topic many women quietly carry. Together, we unpack why one-sided healing is so common in betrayal recovery, how to stay grounded when your partner isn’t doing their work, and how women can release responsibility that was never theirs to carry—without losing hope, faith, or themselves.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
• One-sided healing occurs when a betrayed partner is pursuing growth, boundaries, and restoration while the other person remains disengaged, resistant, or unsafe.
• Many women find themselves healing alone because they cannot control another person’s willingness to change—only their own responses and choices.
• Carrying someone else’s responsibility creates exhaustion, resentment, and confusion; healthy healing requires clear emotional and spiritual boundaries.
• Staying anchored in one-sided healing often involves grounding practices such as prayer, Scripture, community support, and trauma-informed tools.
• Women frequently battle lies about their worth, responsibility, or “failure” when healing alone—truth replaces those lies with clarity, dignity, and freedom.
• Unexpected growth can emerge through one-sided healing, including deeper identity, resilience, discernment, and spiritual maturity.
• Even in the middle of unresolved circumstances, hope is not lost—God’s work in you is never wasted.
Connect with Lyschel Burket:
- Website: https://hoperedefined.org
- Podcast: Hope for Wives
Connect with Us:
- Watermark Coaching: https://www.watermarkcoach.com
- Instagram: @watermarkcoaching
Book Release: Broken to Brave with Tammy Gustafson
Episode 40
jeudi 29 janvier 2026 • Duration 54:22
Healing after betrayal is not about rushing forward or "getting over it”—it’s about courageously reclaiming yourself, one brave step at a time. In this episode, we welcome back licensed professional counselor, coach, and author Tammy Gustafson for a powerful conversation about what it truly means to move from brokenness to bravery after intimate betrayal.
Tammy shares insights from her brand-new book, Broken to Brave: Your Courageous Act of Healing After Intimate Betrayal. Drawing on years of clinical experience, extensive survey research, and the many voices of betrayed women she's worked with over the past 15 years, Tammy explores the stages of betrayal healing, common places where women get stuck, and why courage, curiosity, and even fun are essential to long-term recovery. This episode offers deep hope for anyone wondering if trust, joy, or dreaming again is still possible.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
• Betrayal healing unfolds in stages, and understanding where you are can reduce shame and self-blame while increasing compassion for yourself
• Tammy shares what inspired Broken to Brave and why this book was written specifically to meet women where they actually are in healing
• Research from Tammy’s survey revealed powerful patterns in betrayal recovery, including surprising insights into what women most need to move forward
• What sets Broken to Brave apart is its integration of clinical wisdom, real-life stories, and practical tools for every stage of healing
• Many women get stuck in healing through over-functioning, hyper-vigilance, or fear of joy, and Tammy explains how “fun” can be a legitimate and healing practice
• Even after deep betrayal, it is possible to trust yourself again, reclaim hope, and begin dreaming about a future that feels meaningful and free
Connect with Tammy Gustafson
Learn more about Tammy’s work, counseling services, and upcoming book through her ministries:
- 👉 Broken to Brave on Amazon (US) — Broken to Brave: Your Courageous Act of Healing After Intimate Betrayal by Tammy Gustafson - Available NOW!
- LiveFree Counseling: https://www.livefreecounseling.com
Connect with Us
- Watermark Coaching: https://www.watermarkcoach.com
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/watermarkcoaching
How Our Voice Can Help Us Heal with Amy Elysse
Episode 31
jeudi 24 avril 2025 • Duration 53:45
This week on The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we’re joined by Amy Elysse—vocal coach, faith-filled encourager, and a radiant light in her community. Amy opens up about her own betrayal story and shares how the human voice, primarily through singing, can become a powerful tool for healing. Whether you’re musically inclined or simply longing to express yourself more fully, Amy brings warmth, insight, and practical wisdom to the conversation. And she's created a free recording to guide you through a healing exercise.
As a mom and coach, Amy helps women reclaim their voices and step into confidence through song and self-expression. She reminds us that healing doesn’t have to be heavy; it can be joyful, playful, and freeing.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
- How Amy’s betrayal story shaped her understanding of healing
- Why the voice is such a powerful vehicle for recovery
- Parallels between singing and the process of emotional healing
- What it really means to “find your voice” after betrayal
- Easy, fun ways to bring music and singing into your daily healing practices
- Encouragement for anyone on the journey of rebuilding
Connect with Amy: Follow Amy on Instagram at @tunedintograce
Connect with Us: Visit our website: Watermark Coach Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve.
Produced and edited by Kris Rocha & Cory Gonzalez.
Sponsored by Pure Life Alliance
Breaking Free: Accountability and The Healing Church with Sam Black
Episode 30
mercredi 2 avril 2025 • Duration 01:08:48
Pornography addiction is one of the most misunderstood struggles in the church today, often shrouded in shame and secrecy. Sam Black, Director of Recovery Education at Covenant Eyes and author of The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About Pornography and How to Fix It, joins us to share how real freedom comes through accountability, grace, and informed support. Drawing from his journalism background and over 70 interviews with pastors, counselors, and people in recovery, Sam offers practical wisdom for churches, couples, and individuals navigating the path to healing.
Key Takeaways:
- How Covenant Eyes Works – Sam explains how the software uses screen accountability and ally relationships to help individuals break free from pornography.
- What Makes Accountability Effective – Data shows accountability is most potent when allies are engaged, supportive, and focused on deeper heart change—not just behavior monitoring.
- Support for Spouses—Sam offers compassionate advice for wives who hope software will cure them, emphasizing that while it's a helpful tool, healing requires a broader process of trust-building and recovery.
- What Churches Get Wrong – Drawing from The Healing Church, Sam reveals common missteps ministry leaders make—like placing blame on spouses or assuming more sex will “fix” the problem—and how to shift toward grace-filled support.
- The Power of Collaboration: Sam shares why he invited Dr. Sheri Keffer to author a chapter in his book, emphasizing the importance of including voices from the betrayal trauma community in the healing process.
Resources Mentioned:
- Covenant Eyes
- The Healing Church by Sam Black
- Allied: Fighting Porn with Accountability, Faith, and Friends – Free eBook
Connect with Sam Black:
Connect with Us!
👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.
This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
Helping Men Build Empathy After Betrayal with Dr. Anthony Walker
Episode 29
mercredi 19 février 2025 • Duration 47:57
Dr. Anthony Walker joins us to share how he helps men navigate the healing process after betrayal. He provides insights from Help Her Heal, a workbook by Carol Jergensen Sheets, and discusses how men can develop emotional attunement, overcome resistance, and strengthen their relationships.
Key Talking Points:
- What led Dr. Anthony Walker to Help Her Heal and how he incorporates its strategies in his coaching.
- The importance of emotional attunement in repairing relational trust and how men can develop this skill.
- Common misconceptions men have about betrayal trauma and how Help Her Heal addresses them.
- How men can work through shame and defensiveness to focus on healing both themselves and their relationships.
- The role of spiritual warfare in marriage and how couples can recognize and combat these challenges.
- Encouragement for men who are resistant to engaging in the healing process and practical steps to begin.
Resources Mentioned:
- Help Her Heal by Carol Jergensen Sheets – Amazon Link
- Learn more about Dr. Anthony Walker at www.coachanthonywalker.com
- Intensive Hope Coaching – www.intensivehope.com/pages/services/coaching.html
Connect with Us!
👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.
This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
Reality Collapse & Betrayal Violence with Hope Ray
Episode 28
jeudi 6 février 2025 • Duration 01:08:38
In this episode, we welcome Hope Ray, a Licensed Professional Counselor who coined Betrayal Violence. Hope is a leader in the field of betrayal trauma, offering deep insights into the effects of secrecy, deception, and relational power imbalances. She is also the creator of Complex Partner Trauma magazine, available on Amazon, which provides resources and support for betrayed partners.
Throughout our conversation, we dive into Reality Collapse, the disorientation that betrayed partners experience, and explore how betrayal violence impacts healing and recovery. Hope shares her expertise on recognizing and navigating these complex emotional experiences, helping listeners regain clarity and reclaim their sense of reality.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
🔹 Understanding Reality Collapse – Hope explains what Reality Collapse is, why it occurs, and how often a betrayed partner might experience it.
🔹 Identifying Reality Collapse – We discuss the key signs that indicate someone is experiencing a Reality Collapse and how it can distort their perception of past and present experiences.
🔹 Betrayal Violence and Its Effects – Hope unpacks how betrayal violence exacerbates trauma and why it’s essential to recognize its impact.
🔹 Endangerment in Betrayal Trauma – What does endangerment mean in the context of betrayal trauma? Hope explains how betrayed partners can assess and safeguard their emotional and physical well-being.
🔹 Processing Betrayal and Reality Collapse – Hope shares how Reality Collapse affects a betrayed partner's ability to process their experiences and the symptoms that indicate they may be struggling.
🔹 Steps Toward Healing and Reclaiming Reality – Practical strategies for those who have experienced Reality Collapse, including steps to rebuild trust in themselves and their perceptions.
Connect with Us:
👉 Website: hoperay.com
👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.
This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
The Intimacy Pyramid with Joanna & Matthew Raabsmith
Episode 27
mardi 14 janvier 2025 • Duration 01:01:23
We had the privilege of sitting down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith to discuss the transformative power of the Intimacy Pyramid. With their personal story of betrayal, addiction, and healing as the backdrop, the Raabsmiths shared actionable insights and hope for couples looking to rebuild trust, connection, and relational intimacy.
The Raabsmiths are passionate leaders in the field of marriage and relationship restoration. Combining their expertise with their lived experience, they empower couples to overcome the challenges of betrayal and relational trauma. As creators of the Intimacy Pyramid, they provide a structured and compassionate approach to help couples rediscover trust, deepen connection, and cultivate true intimacy. Learn more about their groundbreaking work at https://intimacypyramid.com/.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
- How They Got Started: Matthew and Joanna share their journey into this field, driven by a deep desire to support couples in navigating the complexities of betrayal and healing.
- Joy in the Work: They reveal the most rewarding aspects of working with couples, including witnessing the transformation and renewed hope in relationships.
- Challenges in the Healing Process: The Raabsmiths identify key hurdles couples face, emphasizing the importance of patience, vulnerability, and perseverance.
- The Intimacy Pyramid: This is an amazing tool for guiding couples step-by-step toward thriving intimacy, fostering trust, safety, and mutual understanding.
- Keys to Success for Both Partners: Insights into what the betraying spouse, the betrayed partner, and the couple as a whole can do to move forward successfully.
- Personal Story: Matthew and Joanna’s candid sharing of their own struggles and triumphs offers hope and relatability for listeners.
Connect with Us:
👉 Visit Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith’s website
👉 Free Resource from the Raabsmiths!
👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.
This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
Rest, Redemptive Gifts and Unlocking Dominion Authority with Dr. Laura Sanger
Episode 26
vendredi 20 décembre 2024 • Duration 01:05:56
We’re excited to welcome Dr. Laura Sanger back to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! Dr. Sanger’s first episode remains the top fan favorite, and we are thrilled to have her return with another timely and profound message—this time focusing on rest, just in time for the holiday season.
Dr. Sanger is a clinical psychologist, author, and the founder of No Longer Enslaved (www.nolongerenslaved.com), where she equips individuals to live free in their God-given identity, authority, and purpose.
In this episode, we explore:
🌟 What is the importance of entering into Sabbath Rest? Dr. Sanger shares how Sabbath rest is more than physical; it’s a spiritual posture of trust and renewal.
🌟 What are the redemptive gifts of Romans 12? We dive into the unique ways God has wired us to bring His light into the world.
🌟 What does it mean to walk in dominion authority? Learn what it looks like to walk confidently in the birthright authority Christ has given us.
This discussion is packed with insight, encouragement, and practical applications for embracing rest, stepping into your gifts, and walking in victory.
Why this episode matters: As we approach Christmas, the message of entering into God’s rest couldn’t be more relevant. Whether navigating life’s busyness, recovering from betrayal, or simply seeking a deeper relationship with God, this episode will inspire and equip you.
Connect with Us:
👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.
This podcast is proudly sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
Post Betrayal Growth with Stacey Smith
Episode 25
jeudi 12 décembre 2024 • Duration 01:06:42
On today's episode of The BRT Podcast, we welcome the amazing Stacey Smith. She’s the Chief Clinical Officer and a Clinical Therapist at Daring Ventures. With a personal recovery journey from betrayal and "stinkin' thinkin'," Stacey uses her lived experience and professional expertise to guide betrayed partners and those suffering from addiction toward healing. She is certified in EMDR therapy and specializes in helping people overcome attachment wounds and shame. Stacey is passionate about creating a healing partnership with her clients and believes in the transformative power of therapy.
Key Highlights:
Stacey shares the acronym "Empower" to teach us about Post Betrayal Growth.
E - Embrace Change
M - Movement
P -Positive Mentality/Mindset
O - Own Your Life
W- Welcome Power
E - Elect a Choice
R - Resolve to Choose
Connect with Us:
- Stacey Smith
- Watermark Coach
- Healing with the Howies
- Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve. 🌟
This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
Resilience Through Betrayal Intensive with Elizabeth Abbruzza
Episode 24
mercredi 13 novembre 2024 • Duration 01:02:07
We are thrilled to welcome Elizabeth Abbruzza, the Co-Founder and Clinical Director of the Bellevue Trauma Recovery Center, to the podcast. With a deep focus on relational trauma and betrayal, Elizabeth shares her expertise and details about the impactful Resilience Through Betrayal (RTB) intensives offered at her center.
About Elizabeth Abbruzza: Elizabeth holds a Master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Gonzaga University and specializes in addressing relational trauma, sex addiction, and problematic sexual behaviors. As a primary therapist for the Resilience Through Betrayal intensives, she empowers individuals to navigate healing after betrayal, offering therapeutic expertise and compassionate care.
Key Highlights:
- Origins of RTB Intensive: Elizabeth explains how the Resilience Through Betrayal program was developed to provide a focused and immersive approach for individuals dealing with betrayal trauma.
- Daily Structure: Learn what a typical day at RTB intensives entails, including how sessions are structured to balance therapeutic work with emotional well-being.
- Immediate Client Needs: Discover the importance of creating safety and validation for participants at the beginning of the intensive.
- Desired Outcomes: Elizabeth outlines the program's goals, which include fostering resilience, self-compassion, and emotional healing.
- Preventing Overload: Insights are shared on how participants are supported to avoid feeling overwhelmed while engaging in deep therapeutic work.
- Emotional Transformation Therapy (ETT): In the final section, Elizabeth introduces Emotional Transformation Therapy (ETT), a promising method that fosters healing by addressing deep emotional wounds. This engaging conversation offers hope and new possibilities for recovery.
Connect with Us:
- Elizabeth Abbruzza: Bellevue Trauma Recovery Center
- Watermark Coach
- Healing with the Howies
- Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching
Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve. 🌟
This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com









