On RHAP's "Talking with T-Bird," Rob Cesternino (Survivor: Amazon and Survivor: All-Stars) and co-host Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper (Survivor: Gabon) sit down with iconic Survivor players from seasons past. They look back on the games these players are remembered for and find out what life looks like for them now.
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Talking with T-Bird: Wanda Shirk
Tuesday, September 15, 2026 ⢠Duration 01:11:52
Talking with T-Bird: Wanda Shirk
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The Survivor RHAP podcastâs âTalking with T-Birdâ series is back as Rob Cesternino and co-host Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper reconnect with Survivor: Palauâs Wanda Shirkâa player whose journey remains one of the most unique in Survivor history. In this special episode, Rob and T-Bird are joined by Josh Wigler to share Wandaâs perspective on being the only Survivor castaway to leave before getting a buff, torch, or Tribal Council moment.
Right from the start, Wanda opens up about the iconic schoolyard pick twist in Survivor: Palau, explaining how it felt to stand among 20 players, only to be left without a tribe due to the âmen pick a woman, women pick a manâ format. She details her preparationâeven swimming and running to be the most ready over-50 contestantâand discusses the emotional aftermath for both herself and Jonathan, who shared her fate. The group also explores Wandaâs lasting Survivor legacy: her spontaneous songs, the creation of the fan-favorite âWand-Offâ tradition, and her ongoing love for the show despite its twists and ever-evolving format.
Rob, T-Bird, and Josh dig into Survivorâs changing game structure, from Palauâs massive starting group to the fairness of modern twists, and Wanda provides a rare look at castaway camaraderie before the game truly begins. A surprise audio message from Palauâs Kobe brings back personal memories, highlighting how deeply Wanda connected with her peers in just two short days on the beach.
Key moments in this episode:
â Behind the scenes of Survivor: Palauâs infamous schoolyard pick twist
â Wandaâs thoughts on preparing as an active, older woman for Survivor
â Reflections on how game twists affect fairness and opportunity for all contestants
â The origin and impact of Wandaâs musical legacy and the RHAP âWand-Offâ
â Personal stories of friendship, resilience, and lessons in choosing happiness after adversity
How might Survivorâs history have changed if Wanda, with her positive spirit and knack for uniting people, had made it onto a tribe? What can her journey teach fans and players alike about perspective and character in the game?
Listen in for Wandaâs unforgettable Survivor perspective and discover why players and fans still sing her praises twenty years later.
Chapters:0:00 Wanda Shirk Joins Talking with T-Bird2:49 Wandaâs Survivor Palau Journey Begins4:02 The Schoolyard Pick Twist Explained6:08 Lifetime Achievement for Hiking Trails9:01 Wanda Reflects on Palau What-Ifs12:00 Survivorâs Unfair Twists and Redemption18:57 The Jonathan Story: Aftermath and Reactions22:08 Survivorâs Group Dynamics and Social Challenges24:41 Strategic Alliances Form Early in Palau26:10 Surprise Message from Kobe to Wanda29:13 Wandaâs Musical Legacy on Survivor32:25 The Birth of the Survivor Wand-Off35:28 Wanda Performs Her Survivor Rap40:43 Wanda Watches Every Survivor Season41:50 Favorite Seasons and Old School Twist45:46 Bond of the Best: Strategy Philosophy51:59 Choosing Happiness and Forgiveness
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Talking with T-Bird: Sue Hawk
Saturday, August 22, 2026 ⢠Duration 02:34:06
Talking with T-Bird: Sue Hawk
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The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions.
Just when you think you know Survivor 50, the legends themselves return to shake things up. Host Rob Cesternino teams up with T-Bird Cooper for a memorable "Talking with T-Bird" deep dive, retracing the roots of Survivor history and connecting it with the unpredictable energy of the current season. This episode stands out as T-Bird finally tracks down the elusive Sue Hawk, whose raw, unfiltered perspective on Survivor Borneo still sets the standard for honest gameplay and legendary jury speeches.
Survivor 50 is back in the spotlight as Rob and T-Bird relive Sueâs iconic story, all while comparing early Survivorâs âwild westâ style to the fast-paced idol hunts, immunity twists, and softer conditions of the modern game. Sue doesnât hold back, critiquing how much easier conditions seem nowâfrom 26-day seasons to the abundance of clothes and comfortsâand reflecting on the real threats and alliances that shaped Borneo. She breaks down the truth behind those first alliances, the sting of betrayal, and why every move on Survivor comes with lasting consequences, both in the game and back in the real world.
Key discussion points include:
â Sueâs behind-the-scenes journey from "off the grid" legend to Survivor All-Star, and how she finally agreed to talk after years of letters and texts with T-Bird
â Insights into Survivor Borneoâs original alliances and Sueâs âsnake and ratâ speech that rocked reality TV
â Raw comparisons between old-school survivalâsand fleas, rain, boredom, and bush medicineâversus Survivor 50âs so-called âsoftballâ era
â How modern twists (idols, shortened seasons) impact the intensity and credibility of winning
â Reflections on loyalty, trust, and what it really means to surviveâon the island and beyond
As Rob and T-Bird revisit Sueâs legacy, they question whether todayâs players could endure old-school hardships or if strategic complexity now outweighs environmental grit. Can emotional honesty still change the game, or has the new era made it all about flash and fleeting power?
Dive into this episode for Survivor storytelling that bridges generations, reveals hard truths, and keeps your torch burning for whatâs coming next. Listen now to see Survivor 50 through the eyes of legendsâand decide for yourself if the game will ever be the same.
Chapters:0:00 T-Birdâs Epic Sue Hawk Journey2:47 Landing the Elusive Sue Hawk Interview6:07 Borneo Origins: Sueâs Survivor Backstory14:25 Survivor Softballs: New Era Critique19:17 Creating the Gilliganâs Island Audition24:56 The Wild Survivor Casting Process32:59 Crafting the Legendary Final Speech39:03 Growing Up Tough in Wisconsin45:56 Adventures Hunting Bears in Russia1:14:21 Losing Out on Survivor Endorsements1:26:20 The Missed All-Girls Alliance Opportunity1:35:38 From Horses to Trucking Life1:45:09 Playing With Sue: Rob Reflects1:55:04 Hero or Villain: Sueâs Survivor Legacy2:21:40 T-Birdâs Toast to Sue Hawk
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Talking with T-Bird: Amy O'Hara
Sunday, August 9, 2026 ⢠Duration 01:22:48
Talking with T-Bird: Amy O'Hara
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions.
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions.
Survivor: Guatemala takes center stage as Rob Cesternino is joined by Survivor legend T-Bird and special guest Amy O'Hara for a spirited edition of Talking with T-Bird. Together, they look back at the grit, chaos, and unforgettable moments that shaped Survivorâs 11th season, highlighting the brutal physical challenges, dramatic tribe dynamics, and behind-the-scenes stories that never made it to air.
The episode begins with Amy sharing what it was like to join Survivor: Guatemala at the last minute, having only a weekâs notice before heading into the Mayan jungle. She reflects on the infamous 12-mile hike that turned into a 20-mile ordeal, and how her background as a Boston police officer helped her survive both the elements and her fellow competitors. Rob and T-Bird dive into the impact of early idol twists, the struggles of competing on an injured ankle, and the surprising relationships forged in the wild â plus, Amy gets heartwarming video messages from fellow castaways like Stephenie and Danni.
â Amy describes the mental and physical toll of the record-breaking opening hike and the challenge of adapting as a self-described non-camperâ The team unpacks how Amyâs detective skills in reading body language did (and didnât) give her an edge in camp strategyâ Behind-the-scenes chaos: from being attacked by a swarm of bees to the real stories of Golden Boy and baiting Blake at campâ The cost of honesty and holding back in confessionals, as Amy and Danni both reflect on why they kept secrets from producersâ Amyâs transition from Survivor contestant to stand-up comedian, and her viral moments off the island
Will old-school toughness and loyalty ever make a comeback in the new Survivor? Can Amyâs storytelling skills from Survivor bring her stand-up to new heights? Dive in as the crew relives the wildest moments of Survivor: Guatemala and looks ahead to what makes the game truly unforgettable.
Join us for untold stories, strategic breakdowns, and laughs from Survivor: Guatemala, only on Talking with T-Bird!
Never miss a minute of RHAPâs extensive Survivor coverage!LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feedWATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTubeSUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!
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Talking with T-Bird: Big Tom
Tuesday, July 28, 2026 ⢠Duration 01:15:58
Talking with T-Bird: Big Tom
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions.
This week, Rob and T-Bird talk to Survivor Africa and Survivor All Star's Big Tom Buchanan.
Never miss a minute of RHAPâs extensive Survivor coverage!LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feedWATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTubeSUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!
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Talking with T-Bird: Jake Billingsley
Saturday, August 30, 2025 ⢠Duration 01:24:42
Talking with T-Bird: Jake Billingsley
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions.
This week, Rob and T-Bird talk to Survivor Thailand's Jake Billingsley.
You can check out Jake's statistics on the Survivor Wiki from their Survivor career here: Jake's Survivor Wiki
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Talking with T-Bird: Shambo Waters
Monday, August 18, 2025 ⢠Duration 02:12:17
Talking with T-Bird: Shambo Waters
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions.
Talking with T-Bird welcomes Shannon "Shambo" Waters from Survivor: Samoa in this latest episode. Hosts Rob Cesternino and Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper chat with the memorable contestant from Season 19, who shares stories from her time on the show and life updates.
Shambo recounts her unique audition process, including demanding a smoking room and birthday cake. She discusses her alliance with Russell Hantz and the challenges of playing Survivor, particularly the harsh weather conditions in Samoa. Shambo also reveals she suffered a neck injury during filming that wasn't shown on TV.
The conversation touches on Shambo's relationships with other castaways, including Mick Trimming and John Fincher. She expresses continued support for Fincher, who is battling cancer. Shambo also discusses her pre-Survivor career as a chef and her passion for cooking.
Rob and T-Bird note Shambo's impact on fans, including newer viewers discovering the show through streaming. They praise her as a one-of-a-kind personality that resonates with audiences. Shambo uses the platform to raise awareness for relief efforts in Lahaina, Maui following recent wildfires.
The hosts emphasize Shambo's uniqueness and storytelling ability, with Rob comparing her to other memorable Survivor personalities like Mad Dog and Jan Gentry. T-Bird highlights Shambo's kind heart and community involvement since the show.
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Survivor 50 Flashbacks: Stephenie LaGrossa Kendrick on Talking with T-Bird
Sunday, June 22, 2025 ⢠Duration 01:05:05
Survivor 50 Flashbacks: Stephenie LaGrossa Kendrick on Talking with T-Bird
Take a walk down memory lane with Survivor 50 Flashbacks, a special RHAP series re-releasing classic podcast moments featuring the Survivor 50 castaways. Before they returned to the island for the milestone season, they joined Rob Cesternino on RHAP to break down strategy, talk game, and share unforgettable stories.
This week, we're flashing back to the Talking with T-Bird that featured Stephenie LaGrossa Kendrick!
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Talking with T-Bird: Zoe Zanidakis
Tuesday, September 10, 2024 ⢠Duration 01:17:46
Talking with T-Bird: Zoe Zanidakis
Zoe Zanadakis shares her unique Survivor: Marquesas journey with hosts Rob Cesternino and T-Bird Cooper in this engaging Talkin' with T-Bird episode. From her unexpected entry into the game to her experiences as a commercial lobster fisherman, Zoe's stories offer a fresh perspective on the early days of Survivor.
Zoe Zanidakis, known as the "Lobster Lady," joins the conversation to share her unique experiences from growing up on Monhegan Island, Maine, to her time on Survivor. Despite not being a fan of the show before joining, Zoe's outdoor skills and independent spirit made her a memorable contestant. She opens up about her initial reluctance to join the show, the challenges she faced, and her thoughts on alliances and game strategy.
Key Takeaways:
Zoe's journey from a small fishing community to the Survivor stage.
The challenges of adapting to the social dynamics of Survivor.
Behind-the-scenes stories, including a hilarious mix-up with a boom mic.
Reflections on the physical and mental demands of the game.
Zoe's thoughts on the idea of returning for Survivor 50.
Don't miss this captivating episode filled with insider stories and heartfelt moments.
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Talking with T-Bird: Will Wahl
Tuesday, August 20, 2024 ⢠Duration 01:07:21
Talking with T-Bird: Will Wahl
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions. In this episode of âTalking with T-Bird,â Rob and T-Bird welcome Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X player, Will Wahl.
You can check out Will's statistics on the Survivor Wiki from their Survivor career here: Will's Survivor Wiki Profile
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Talking with T-Bird: Sugar Kiper
Tuesday, August 13, 2024 ⢠Duration 01:21:13
Talking with T-Bird: Sugar Kiper
The time has come for the return of âTalking with T-Bird.â Each episode, Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Survivor: Africaâs Teresa âT-Birdâ Cooper (@tbirdcooper) will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions. In this episode of âTalking with T-Bird,â Rob and T-Bird welcome Survivor: Gabon and Heroes Villains castaway, Sugar Kiper!
You can check out Sugar's statistics on the Survivor Wiki from their Survivor career here: Sugar's Survivor Wiki Profile
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