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Karen Black
mercredi 21 août 2024 • Duration 44:51
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Through layers of paint in varying translucency, Karen Black explores not only the physical nature of the female form but through her use of abstraction and considered use of colour she brings out another dimension – an emotional layer.There is a strong sense of a spontaneous response in her paintings so you may be surprised to hear that reading and research play as much a role in her process as creating those drips and brushstrokes.
Karen talks with me in this episode about her fascination with recent research on frequencies and vibrations which occur in all matter. That interest informs her most recent body of work which will be on view in her upcoming solo show ‘alternative frequency’ at Ames Yavuz in Sydney.
Karen has been acclaimed with awards and residencies and her work is in the collections of many public institutions. She has been repeatedly shortlisted in the Archibald and Sulman prizes, among many others, and has work hanging in both those prize exhibitions in the Art Gallery of NSW this year. She has also been recognised for her ceramic work, two of which have been acquired by the National Gallery of Victoria.
In this podcast episode Karen talks with me about her childhood memories of art, how she came to painting, the story behind her current show and some interesting aspects of her process.
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- Karen Black on Instagram
- Karen Black at Ames Yavuz
- Karen Black at Sutton Gallery
- Solo show ‘alternative frequency’ at Ames Yavuz Gallery, 31 August to 5 October 2024
‘Both of us’
oil on canvas
61 x 92 cm
Finalist Sir John Sulman Prize 2024
Source: AGNSW website
‘Head wind’ 2024,
oil on polyester, 183.3 x 153 cm
Image courtesy of the artist
‘Licking the rain’ 2017
oil on canvas
152.5 x 122 cm
Finalist Sir John Sulman Prize 2017
Source: AGNSW website
‘I Will Shade You from the World’
2022
Oil on canvas
213.6 x 198.5cm
Image courtesy of the artist
Vivian Vidulich
oil on polyester
183 x 152.5 cm
Finalist – Archibald Prize 2024
Source: AGNSW website
‘Crown legs arms’ 2016
earthenware, 23ct gold leaf
69.0 × 29.7 × 29.2 cm
Collection, National Gallery of Victoria
Laura Jones wins the 2024 Archibald Prize
dimanche 9 juin 2024 • Duration
On Friday I interviewed Laura shortly after the announcement and I’m bringing you that 5 minute conversation in this episode but I’ve also gone through the archives to my podcast conversation with Laura in 2018 to bring you something extra.
When I interviewed Laura a few years ago it was after she had finished a residency on the Great Barrier Reef where she was studying the terrible bleaching events which occurred there (and continue to occur) and her concern surrounding those events is not unconnected with her winning portrait in this year’s Archibald Prize.
Because it was after seeing Tim Winton’s documentary on the ABC, Ningaloo Nyinggulu, about the fight to save the Ningaloo reef that Laura requested an Archibald portrait sitting. They have in common a sense of urgency that we must act now on climate change and are doing everything they can to bring attention to the devastating and inevitable consequences of inaction.
One of the most interesting parts of my conversation with Laura was when she explained how coral bleaching occurs. It’s complex and scientific but she explained it in a way that anyone could understand so I thought I would bring you that part of the interview today .
The Archibald, Wynne and Sulman Prizes exhibition continues until Sunday 8 September 2024. The Archibald finalist works then go on tour across 5 venues across NSW and for the first time, to the Northern Territory. The Wynne Prize finalist works will tour to four venues in regional NSW.
- 2018 podcast interview with Laura Jones (ep 53)
- Laura Jones’ Archibald Prize acceptance speech (Instagram)
- YouTube version of my Archibald interview with Laura
- Incognito Art Show
- Studio A
Tim Winton
Oil on linen, 198 x 152.5cm
Image: Art Gallery of NSW, Jenni Carter Winner 2024 Archibald Prize
Inspiration from the Archives | Risk
samedi 7 octobre 2023 • Duration 24:24
It might be using a new material, drastically altering the composition of a nearly completed painting or creating a completely different body of work to what had previously been commercially successful and critically acclaimed. Any way you look at it, you’re leaving yourself open to the possibility of failure, disappointment and probably the most painful of all – ridicule.
So whether we call it risk, chance, letting go of control or just leaving yourself open to mistakes, it all amounts to a greater openness to creativity. Taking the leap and seeing what happens.
In this episode I bring together clips from eight previous guests about what risk means to them – and how they use it.
See below for a list of the artists together with links to the full podcast conversation and YouTube video
Press ‘play’ beneath the above image to listen
- Vanessa Stockard Podcast | YouTube
- Paul Ryan Podcast | YouTube
- Guy Warren Podcast | YouTube
- Julian Meagher Podcast | YouTube
- Ken Done Podcast | YouTube
- Juliet Holmes a Court Podcast | YouTube
- Tim Maguire Podcast | YouTube
- Joe Furlonger Podcast | YouTube
Watch the Idris Murphy YouTube Video
Listen to the full Idris Murphy podcast interview
Book tickets for my conversation with Steve Lopes at the Art Gallery of NSW
Ep 60: Justin Williams
lundi 3 décembre 2018 • Duration 45:40
Williams depicts the world outside the mainstream, usually set in nature or a seemingly imaginary or folkloric world. He’s interested in the characters who represent the archetypal outsider such as Baba Desi, the wizard living in the Dandenongs and ‘The Family’ cult leader Anne Hamilton-Byrne. He feels, though, that not all outsiders live on the fringes of society and that it could include all of us to some extent.
From working on fishing trawlers to single handedly building his own cabin in the forest, Williams does not seek out the safety of the comfortable life and it’s only been relatively recently that he has found a stability of sorts in comparison to his earlier, less predictable, life.
His current show Arcana II, showing at Galerie L’Inlassable in Paris, depicts scenarios inspired from a tarot card reading by a Parisian clairvoyant. The works are mysterious with a hint of foreboding. Powerful colour combinations and brushwork makes the viewer linger.
He believes he is a relatively unknown in Australia but that that has given him the freedom to work without restraint.
It was a thoroughly enjoyable conversation. To hear it just press play beneath the feature photo above!
Scroll down to see a short video of Williams in his studio.
Current and upcoming events- ‘Arcana part II’, Galerie l’inlassable, Paris until December 22, 2018
- Solo show at SADE LA, May 2019
- Justin Williams at Silas Von Morrisse Gallery
- Justin Williams at Galeries l’inlassable
- Andy Warhol
- Pablo Picasso
- Jean-Michel Basquiat
- The Family sect (Anne Hamilton-Byrne)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0py0oSjQXkU
‘Love at the end’ 2018, oil on canvas, 205 x 207cm (This is the painting we talk about at about 26m50s – when we’re talking about colour)
‘Apple orchard orgy’, 2016, oil monad pigment on canvas, 214.3 x 198.1cm
In the studio – progress shot of ‘Apple orchard orgy’ (we talk about this at 30m)
Works from The Attachment Series, 2012
‘Devola’, 2017, oil , pigment, enamel, sand on canvas, 203 x 152cm
‘Sphinx with head basket, 2014, stoneware ceramic, 25 x 13 x 13cm
Ep 59: Melinda Harper
lundi 19 novembre 2018 • Duration 44:31
Whether its hundreds of rectangles crammed onto the canvas or wavy forms filled with psychedelic stripes, your eye is going to be subjected to a feast of colour and form.
In this episode we talk about, amongst other things, colour, why she paints in oils when acrylics would appear to be the obvious choice, and how, when she was at art school, her approach was not at all in fashion.
Harper has been exhibiting for over 30 years and has had over 25 solo shows. In 2015, one of Australia’s leading art institutions, Heide Museum of Modern Art, held a major survey of her work called ‘Colour Sensation: The Works of Melinda Harper’. Her work is contained in the permanent collections of the National Gallery of Australia, National Gallery of Victoria, Art Gallery of NSW and other public and private collections.
I caught up with Harper at her home near the town of Castlemaine, in the beautiful goldfield regions of Victoria.
To hear the podcast interview press ‘play’ under the feature photo above.
A short video of Harper in her studio will be posted to this website, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube soon.
Show Notes- Melinda Harper at Olsen Gallery
- Judy Chicago
- Judy Chicago’s installation ‘The Dinner Party’
- Hans Hofmann
- Jackson Pollock
- Lee Krasner
- Hans Hofmann’s painting ‘Pre-dawn’, 1960, National Gallery of Australia
- Marcel Duchamp
- Hans Hofmann website demonstrating the ‘push and pull’ theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct8FlM4jq50
‘Untitled’, 2011, oil on canvas
‘Untitled’, 2003, oil on canvas, 180 x 150cm
‘Untitled’, 1998, oil on canvas, 183 x 152cm (Permanent Collection, Art Gallery of NSW)
‘Untitled’, 2000, oil on canvas, 183 x 152.3cm (Permanent collection, National Gallery of Victoria)
‘Untitled’, 1999, oil on canvas, 121 x 110cm (private collection, Melbourne)
Ep 58: Natasha Walsh
dimanche 4 novembre 2018 • Duration 51:27
She’s also been a finalist in the Archibald Prize for the last 3 years in a row with stunning self portraits. And she’s only 24.
But the road to this success has not been smooth. Experiencing dyslexia as a child, she struggled both academically and socially in her early years and had to learn strategies to fit in. There’s also been an intermittent struggle with depression and she speaks openly about those experiences and how they have impacted her fascinating self portraits.
Painting on canvas has never really interested her. She’s more interested in transforming materials into ideas. Those materials have ranged from wax and copper to marble.
Walsh displays wisdom beyond her years and it was great to meet her.
Press ‘play’ which appears beneath the feature photo to hear the podcast episode.
Scroll down to see a short video of Walsh in her studio.
Current and upcoming shows- Mosman art prize (winner) Mosman Art Gallery current until 18 November 2018
- Archibald Prize, Geelong Gallery current until 18 November 2018
- Dominik Mersch Gallery, 2019, date TBA
- Natasha Walsh
- Natasha Walsh at Dominik Mersch Gallery
- Archibald Prize
- Brett Whiteley Travelling Art Scholarship
- Mosman Art Prize
- Kilgour Prize
- National Art School
https://youtu.be/4AkEXoIyAhg
‘Numb to touch – (self portrait)’, oil on copper, 40.5 x 28cm (finalist Archibald prize 2018)
View of ‘Numb to touch (self portrait)’ in perspex frame (photo courtesy of Natasha Walsh Instagram page)
‘Within the studio (self-portrait)’ oil on marble 10cm x 10cm (winner Kilgour prize 2018)
Three of the twenty works in ‘Timepiece’, exhibition at Dominik Mersch Gallery in 2017, all oil, pigment and goat’s milk on copper.
Installation view of ‘Timepiece’ exhibition at Dominik Mersch Gallery, Sydney, 2017
‘luciana, 1936’, oil, bee’s wax and dammar resin on panel
‘Self portrait’ oil on copper 25 x 22.5cm (finalist Archibald prize 2016)
‘One minute til midnight’, 2017, oil on copper, (finalist Doug Moran National Portrait Prize 2017)
‘The Scent of rain (self portrait)’ 2017, oil on copper 25 x 22..5cm (finalist Archibald prize 2017)
Ep 57: Joe Furlonger
dimanche 21 octobre 2018 • Duration 58:54
He’s probably best known for a particular kind of landscape which he returns to time and time again. He paints those flat areas of the Australian farmlands and bush, the places where at first glance there doesn’t seem to be much going on, where the horizon seems to stretch out forever. Places like Moree and the Darling Downs. But he always seems to find a way to interpret those spaces which injects an excitement into the image and that invariably involves multiple layers of paint energetically applied.
Furlonger’s not concerned with traditional rules of landscape painting or the restrictions of gaining an exact likeness in portraiture. His methods appear to be instinctive in one sense but, on the other hand, also drawn from keen observation. What emerged from talking with him, though, was his constant struggle to avoid stagnation and his desire to always be looking for a new approach until even that method is exhausted and it’s time to move on.
He’s a multi award winning artist and has had 35 solo shows. His work is held in the National Galleries of Australia and Victoria and the Art Gallery of NSW as well as many other public and private collections.
We recorded this conversation when his work was hanging in Defiance Gallery’s show ‘Six Artists | Seven Days’ which was brought about together with the Australian Wildlife Conservancy when six artists were taken to one of the AWC’s sanctuaries in Newhaven in the Northern Territory. Scroll down to see a short video taken at the gallery.
To hear the interview press ‘play’ beneath the feature photo above.
Upcoming shows- Nock Art Gallery, Hong Kong, 2019, date TBA
- Joe Furlonger at Defiance Gallery
- Ann Thomson on Talking with Painters
- Kevin Connor
- Sidney Nolan
- Pablo Picasso
- Ernst Kirchner
- Pierre Bonnard
- Lucian Freud
- Ray Hughes
- Australian Wildlife Conservancy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we_hFi9ijkg&t=47s
‘Grainfield Cultivation Moree’ 2014 acrylic bound pigment on canvas, 118 x 133cm (finalist Wynne prize 2014)
‘Desert, Newhaven XXI’, 2018, mixed media on paper, 29.5 x 21cm
‘Self-portrait at Moree’, 2014, acrylic bound pigment on canvas, 162 x 120cm (finalist Archibald prize 2014)
‘South East Queensland – Red Soils’, 2004, colour woodcut on cream wove paper, 54.5 x 89.8cm (permanent collection, AGNSW)
‘Figure’, 1994, gouache on thick white wove paper, 50 x 40.5cm (permanent collection, AGNSW)
‘Boats in Monsoon, Burnett Heads’, 2017, acrylic bound pigment on canvas, 111.5 x 137cm
Ep 56: Jacqui Stockdale
dimanche 7 octobre 2018 • Duration 47:41
When I visited her Melbourne studio I was bowled over by a huge horse she had sculpted – a life-sized Phar Lap in the middle of the studio piled high with a large collection of masks on its back; masquerade masks which she first came upon on a trip to india and kept collecting. Bright, expressive and slightly creepy.
Horses and masks feature again and again but her work is never predictable. She’s always shaking it up a bit, adding a touch of shock value along the way. Her photographic art work ‘Historia’, of a topless female Ned Kelly, would have raised the eyebrows of one or two historians.
Over the time she spent in Sydney in the late 90s she painted prolifically and was awarded five art prizes in less than two years and has won several prizes since then including the Moran Contemporary Photograhic award. She has exhibited in 20 solo shows and has a show coming up at Sydney’s Olsen gallery in November 2018.
Stockdale’s work is held in public institutions including the National Gallery of Australia, many private collections, and has even been hung in the Louvre in Paris. She is also one of only 20 artists recently commissioned by the National Portrait Gallery to create work for its 20th anniversary.
This conversation was recorded before an audience at Town Hall Gallery in Melbourne on 22 September 2018 in the midst of a show brought together by the artist Ilona Nelson, through her creative project ‘This Wild Song’.
To hear the podcast interview press ‘play’ under the feature photo above.
Scroll down for a short video of Stockdale in her studio. More videos of podcast guests can be seen on the Talking with Painters YouTube channel.
Feature photo by Martin Nahon (cropped)
Current and Upcoming events
- Group show ‘This Wild Song’, Town Hall Gallery, current to 21 October 2018
- ‘Jacqui Stockdale’, Olsen Gallery, 21 November – 9 December 2018
- Jacqui Stockdale at This is No Fantasy
- Jacqui Stockdale at Olsen Gallery
- Jacqui Stockdale on Instagram
- This Wild Song – Ilona Nelson
- Lewis Miller on Talking with Painters
- Hugh Ramsay
- John Singer Sargent
- Nora Heysen
- Diego Velazquez
- Ned Kelly
- Paul Kelly
- Rose Chong Costumiers
- Sidney Nolan
- MONA
- Mofo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GBipC3_Hcg
‘Mind over matter’, 2010, oil on linen
‘Duel of the Mount I’, 2018, C Type Print, 130 x 100cm
‘Duel of the Mount II’ 2018, C Type Print, 130 x 100cm
‘The Quiet Stage’, oil on linen, winner Kings School Art prize 1998
‘Two Birds of a Feather’, 1998
‘Historia’, 2016, Type C Print, 140 x 110cm
‘Kelly’, 2016, C Type Print, 140 x 110cm
‘Man of Quinn’, 2016, Type C Print, 140 x 110cm
Ep 55: Alexander McKenzie
mardi 25 septembre 2018 • Duration 01:09:00
One thing’s for sure. You’re going to venture in for a closer look. At first it might look familiar but as you get closer you realise it’s not a place that you’re likely to find on this earth. You’ll discover things you didn’t notice at first glance; a closed gate with its key lost in the painting, a bridge taking you to another place, a red flag warning you to reconsider.
Those elements are not accidental. They’ve been deliberately placed by the artist who is himself looking for answers where spirituality is key. Even the symbols in his portraiture lend themselves to a metaphoric interpretation.
He’s had twenty five solo shows in Australia and the UK, has been a finalist in the Archibald six times, seven times in the Wynne Prize and is hugely popular. McKenzie’s shows often sell out and his superb mid-career survey show ‘The Adventurous Gardener’ currently at Hazelhurst Regional Gallery in Sydney has been what could be called a blockbuster for a regional gallery, with 2000 people going through the doors on the first weekend.
We recorded this episode in McKenzie’s studio with some of his paintings in progress propped up on milk crates against the walls destined for Martin Browne Contemporary and his November solo show.
To hear the conversation press ‘play’ beneath the feature photo above. Or listen however you get your podcasts.
Scroll down to see a video of McKenzie talking about his survey show ‘The Adventurous Gardener’.
Current and upcoming events- ‘The Adventurous Gardener’, Hazelhurst Regional Gallery, current to 21 October 2018
- Solo show, Martin Browne Contemporary, 15 November – 9 December 2018
- Alexander McKenzie
- Alexander McKenzie at Martin Browne Contemporary
- Julian Ashton Art School
- Leonardo Da Vinci
- Claude Monet
- Edouard Manet
- Paul Klee
- Dutch Golden Age painting
- John Bokor
- King Street Gallery
- Blake Prize
- Matt Corby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVHMan9j7Y
‘More than many sparrows’, 2018, oil on linen, 197 x 350cm
Initial sketch for ‘More than many sparrows’
‘Matt Corby’, 2014, oil on linen, 197 x 153cm
‘Man moves mountain’, 2014, oil on linen, 229 x 198cm (Finalist Wynne prize, 2014)
‘In danger of knowledge’, 2017, oil on linen, 137 x 228cm
‘Firestarter’, 2011, oil on linen (finalist Wynne prize 2011)
‘Andrew Upton’, 2010, oil on linen, 198 x 228cm (Archibald finalist 2010)
Ep 54: Ann Thomson
dimanche 9 septembre 2018 • Duration 01:06:06
She’s won the Wynne prize, the Geelong Contemporary art prize, the Kedumba Drawing prize, the Tattersall’s art prize and others. She’s also an acclaimed sculptor and, as with her paintings, likes to work in large scale. Her incredible installation selected for the Seville Expo in 1992 was 11 metres high and took 3 months to complete when it was shipped over to Spain.
I had a great conversation with Ann in her huge studio in Sydney’s eastern suburbs. We talked about why we need musicians and artists, what makes a strong painting, how to tap into creativity and lots more.
Her work is included in the forthcoming show ‘6 artists | 7 days’ at Defiance Gallery which opens on 23 September 2018.
Thomson grew up in Brisbane and this episode starts at a time when she was 9 years old, during WWII, when her school had been closed down amid fears of enemy attacks.
Press ‘play’ beneath the feature photo above to hear the podcast interview.
Scroll down to see video of Thomson in her studio.
Feature photo of Ann Thomson above (cropped) by Greg Weight
Current and upcoming events
- National Art – Part one, group show, National Art School, current to 27 October 2018
- Mary Place Group Exhibition, Defiance Gallery, current to 20 October 2018
- Six artists | Seven days, the AWC Newhaven exhibition, group show, Defiance Gallery, 23 September to 19 October
- Exhibition with Joe Furlonger at Nock Art Gallery 2019, date TBA
- Ann Thomson at Defiance Gallery
- Ann Thomson at Nodrum Gallery
- Ann Thomson at Stephane Jacob Gallery
- John Molvig
- Betty Churcher
- Caroline Barker
- Robert Helpmann
- Kenneth Noland
- Anthony Caro
- Claude Monet
- Exhibition at Musee de l’Orangerie – American Abstract Painting and the last Monet
- National Art School (formerly East Sydney Technical College)
- John Passmore
- Watters Gallery
- John Olsen
- Tim Storrier
- Piet Mondrian
- Ian Fairweather
- Grace Clifford
- Australian Wildlife Conservancy
- Cite Internationale des Arts
- Noel McKenna
- Joe Furlonger
- Fiona Mcdonald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubcRerANudU&t=2s
‘Ebb Tide’ 1987, oil on linen, 400 x 550cm
‘Breakwater’, acrylic and collage on linen, 2014, 91 x 122cm (Winner Tattersall’s Art Prize 2016)
‘The Glowing’, 2015, acrylic on linen, 122 x 153cm
‘Newhaven I’ 2018, acrylic on canvas, 122 x 153cm
Water and Air series Vase V 2018, painting on ceramic 17.5 x 18.5 x 18.5
Fish Trap series V 2018, oil stick on paper, 25 x 25cm
‘Australia Felix’ (detail) 1992, installation, Seville
‘Australia Felix’ (detail) 1992, installation, Seville









