Stick to Rugby – Details, episodes & analysis

🏉 Welcome to The Overlap Rugby! 🏉

We’re launching a brand-new channel with Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender. Join rugby legends Lawrence Dallaglio, David Flatman, Tom Shanklin, and Katy Daley-McLean as they share real stories, fresh perspectives, and dive into everything you love about the game.

We'll have legendary guests from ex-pros, to celebrity fans. This is your front-row seat for every kind of rugby fan - from unforgettable moments to untold stories.

📅 First episode launches January 29

📍 Available now wherever you get your podcasts and on  @TheOverlapRugby  YouTube channel

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The first-ever episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, kicks off with an all-star lineup as David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin sit down with none other than Martin Johnson.

Flats opens the show with a deep dive into the weekend’s events, including his birthday celebrations and the best and worst gifts he received. The crew wastes no time getting into the biggest talking points in rugby, with Martin Johnson tackling a Truth or Lies showdown, answering long-standing myths and surprises from his career.

As the Six Nations approaches, the team debates England’s fly-half dilemma and how Wales will fare under their current setup. Martin reflects on England’s 2003 Grand Slam victory, revealing the emotional impact of the Fields of Athenry moment and addressing the infamous carpet controversy.

The conversation shifts to captaincy, as Martin recalls taking over from Dallaglio in 1999 and the challenges of leadership at the highest level. The debate heats up as the panel discusses Jamie George losing the England captaincy to Maro Itoje and how recent performances reflect on Steve Borthwick’s leadership choices.

With a Lions Tour year ahead, the pane debate whether 1997 was truly the best tour ever. Martin also reflects on his time as England coach, the challenges of managing player behaviour, and whether his coaching years have left a lasting impact on the national team.

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, dives straight into the chaos of the Six Nations opening weekend.

David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-Mclean, and Tom Shanklin break down England’s loss against Ireland—did Borthwick’s side run out of gas, or is there more to it? Meanwhile, France made a statement against Wales, but did they even get out of second gear? And Scotland impressed, but do they have the squad depth to go all the way?

Flats leads the debate on England’s struggles, pinpointing the key moments that cost them, while Dallaglio weighs in on whether Ireland have the best rugby intelligence in the tournament. The panel also picks their Team of the Week, spotlighting the standout performers from Round 1.

Beyond the pitch, the panel shares some brilliant behind-the-scenes stories, including Six Nations debut initiations, life on the team bus, and the best (and worst) pre-game superstitions. Shaun Edwards’ name pops up as well—was he the most intense coach ever? Flats and Shanks share what it was really like playing under him.

With Round 2 looming, the crew makes their predictions—can England bounce back against France? Is Wales in real trouble against Italy? And could Scotland vs Ireland decide the championship?

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Eddie Jones join David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a brutally honest chat about his coaching career, England exit, and what he’d do differently.

Eddie opens up about his time as England head coach, reflecting on the highs and lows, why the team’s playing style became so unpopular, and how they lost their identity. He reveals what really happened in the 2019 World Cup final, whether he should have started Joe Marler, and why England were booed for their kicking game.

The debate heats up as Eddie discusses the British & Irish Lions job—was he ever really interested? He also breaks down his relationship with Steve Borthwick, what advice he’d give him now, and why he believes the England job is the toughest in rugby.

Beyond England, Eddie reflects on his Japan dream job, the influence of Bob Dwyer, and the key coaching lessons he’s learned. He lifts the lid on England’s leadership over the years, including the dynamic between Dylan Hartley and Owen Farrell, and shares his take on the future of international rugby.

A no-filter Eddie Jones interview you won’t want to miss.

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Jodie Ounsley join David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for an inspiring and hilarious conversation about her unique journey—from rugby to Gladiators and everything in between.

Jodie opens up about growing up deaf, the challenges she faced in rugby, and how she turned her biggest obstacle into her greatest strength. She shares the moment she didn’t hear the whistle and got sent off, the reality of playing top-level sport with a cochlear implant, and why she’s taking a break from rugby.

The team also dives into her rise as ‘Fury’ on Gladiators—what it’s really like behind the scenes, how she switches from being shy to fierce, and the brutal 11-day filming schedule that left her body battered. Plus, she reveals the weirdest fan request she’s ever had!

Beyond sport, Jodie discusses representation, being a role model, and her new children’s book, Keep Smashing It, designed to inspire the next generation to embrace challenges head-on.

With plenty of laughs, big topics, and some wild stories (including a World Coal Carrying Championship?), this episode is not to be missed!

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, gets stuck into the dark arts of rugby—who are the true masters of the game’s most controversial tactics, what really happens at the breakdown, and how far teams will go to get an edge.

Then, it’s all about the Six Nations fallout—was Scotland tactically better despite the loss? Are England just not good to watch? And did Wales take confidence from their near-miss against France? The panel also debate whether Damian Penaud’s performance raised questions or silenced critics.

Next up, it’s British & Irish Lions selection talk—should Marcus Smith be on the plane? Who’s making a late push for a spot, and which players have already locked themselves in?

Finally, the conversation takes a personal turn as the panel shares the moment they knew it was time to retire—how tough is it mentally, what happens when your body can’t take it anymore, and is stepping away ever truly on your own terms?

A massive episode packed with rugby’s dark arts, Six Nations drama, bold Lions predictions, and emotional retirement stories—don’t miss it!

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Cadan Murley to the panel alongside David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a deep dive into the Six Nations, England’s tactics, and Murley’s whirlwind debut.

Murley opens up about the highs and lows of his England debut, from scoring with his second touch to the harsh realities of international rugby. He reflects on the injury setback that cut his Six Nations dream short and reveals the hilarious debut initiation song he belted out in front of the England and Ireland squads.

The conversation turns to England’s style of play—is their attack too conservative? Murley weighs in on the Marcus Smith fullback experiment, his close friendship with the playmaker, and whether England’s attack is being limited by their system. The panel also debates Finn Smith vs Marcus Smith for England’s No.10 shirt and how England can take their game to the next level.

Elsewhere, the team discuss Ireland’s intensity and ability to disrupt opponents, the brilliance of Antoine Dupont, and whether Scotland are under pressure heading into the final rounds. Plus, Murley gives his take on the future of England rugby, the next generation of stars, and what it will take for the squad to become one of the best teams in the world.

A brilliant mix of insight, debate, and behind-the-scenes rugby stories—don’t miss it!

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Warren Gatland to the panel alongside David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for an exclusive deep dive into his Wales exit, coaching highs, and the future of rugby.

Gatland opens up about the emotional decision to return to Wales, the brutal challenges he faced, and whether he has any regrets. He reveals how the pressure of 14 straight defeats impacted him and the squad, why he never tried to protect himself, and whether he feels let down by former players.

The panel also revisits his Wasps legacy, what made that team so dominant, and how coaching Brian O’Driscoll shaped his early career. And, of course, there’s plenty of Lions talk—from selection secrets to why Marcus Smith has to be in the squad.

Plus, Gatland’s take on rugby’s bomb squad debate—should World Rugby step in?—and why he thinks Australia will be dangerous on the upcoming Lions tour.

A brutally honest conversation with one of rugby’s biggest coaching figures—don’t miss it!

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Joe Marler & Marlie Packer join Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a no-holds-barred breakdown of the Six Nations, mental health in rugby, and the realities of life after the game.

Marler and Packer reflect on England’s emphatic win over Wales and whether this was a turning point for Steve Borthwick’s side. They also preview the Women’s Six Nations, discussing the contenders, England’s dominance, and what to expect from the tournament.

Marlie shares her raw emotions on losing the England captaincy, what it meant to step back, and whether she ever considered walking away from the sport altogether. Meanwhile, Joe opens up about retirement—both the fear of stepping away and the lack of aftercare rugby offers once players hang up their boots.

The panel also breaks down the PWR Final, Marlie’s take on the intensity of the competition, and what it means for the future of the women’s game.

The conversation expands into the bigger picture of mental health in rugby, the pressures of leadership, and why so many players feel lost when their careers come to an end.

⚠️ This episode includes discussions on mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, visit one of the following organisations: 

Samaritans - https://www.samaritans.org/

NSPCC - https://www.nspcc.org.uk/

FRANK - https://www.talktofrank.com/

Mind - https://www.mind.org.uk/

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Welsh legend Scott Quinnell to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a rollicking ride through rugby’s past, present, and future.

Quinnell talks about his unmatched Welsh rugby bloodline, the moment he nearly dropped the ball before Scott Gibbs’ iconic try, and why Lawrence’s Wembley heartbreak might’ve led to England’s World Cup success. From Austin Healy’s £35,000 Rolex blunder to wild tales of Wigan’s sevens dream team–no story is off-limits.

The crew also relive their worst days in rugby, get nostalgic about the Five Nations era, and debate the modern game’s professionalism in “You Couldn’t Get Away With That Now.”

Plus, the latest on the Women’s Six Nations, Red Roses dominance, and who might make the 2025 Lions squad—with bold claims about Tomos Williams, Henry Pollock, and Talupe Faletau.

And don’t miss Quinnell’s take on Andy Farrell’s coaching rise, Shaun Edwards' Wembley red card, and the secret Lions selection dinner with his dad!

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