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What if one of the biggest growth opportunities in your business isn’t finding the next client, but keeping the ones you already worked so hard to win?

In this episode, I’m joined by Erica Wood, founder of Client Journey Advisors. Erica helps growing service-based businesses transform reactive service delivery into intentional, scalable client journeys that build trust and reduce churn. We talk about what “client journey” really means, why it starts earlier than most people think, and how easily trust can break down when founders get too focused on acquisition and not focused enough on the experience happening after the sale.

This conversation is a reminder that sales is not just about getting the yes. It’s about what happens next. Erica shares practical insight on where trust tends to slip, why the first 30 days matter so much, and how a few intentional touchpoints can make a real difference in retention, referrals, and client growth.

In this episode, we cover:

• What a client journey actually is in a growing service-based business
• Why the most important client is the one you have right in front of you
• Early warning signs that growth is starting to strain the client experience
• How to create intentional retention touchpoints, especially in the first 30 days
• Small changes founders can make to reduce churn and build more trust over time

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

Take 20 minutes this week and map out your current client journey from the moment someone says yes to the moment the project or engagement ends.

Look at each step and ask yourself: Where might a client be confused, disconnected, or unsure of what happens next?

Then choose one place in that journey where you can add more clarity or more care this week.

That might look like:

• Improving your onboarding email
• Adding a proactive check-in
• Sending a simple “here’s what to expect next” message=
• Creating a clearer offboarding step that keeps the relationship open

Do not try to rebuild everything at once. Just find one place where trust may be leaking and fix that first. 

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Client Journey Advisors
• Connect with Erica on LinkedIn
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event! 
• Simply sales with the VIP Power Hour - download the FREE guide
• Learn how to consistently book 3–5 sales-qualified meetings each week - Book an Alignment Call

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

We've all been there — refreshing our analytics, watching a post disappear into the void, and wondering why the clients aren't coming. But what if the algorithm isn't actually the problem?

In this solo minisode of Sales as Service, I'm breaking down why content alone was never meant to carry the full weight of your business development — and what to do instead.

We explore:

• Why posting feels productive but isn't a sales strategy
• The real difference between visibility and initiation
• How to stop blaming the algorithm and start building on purpose
• The math behind consistent, predictable revenue
• Why female founders hesitate to initiate — and how to shift that

Got a question about sales, warm outreach, or leading your own sales process? This show is shaped by real questions from agency owners and service-based founders. Send yours via LinkedIn or email Tam directly at heytam@studiothree49.com — if you're dealing with it, chances are you're not the only one.

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

This week, set aside 20 minutes a day for initiation only. Reach out to three people:

• One past contact
• One warm prospect
• One new aligned connection

Start with something real — a thoughtful question, a relevant observation, a resource, or a referral. Do that for a month, then tell me the algorithm is your biggest problem.

Links & Resources:

• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event! 
• Simply sales with the VIP Power Hour - download the FREE guide
• Learn how to consistently book 3–5 sales-qualified meetings each week - book your free strategy call

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

Your next client has already Googled you.

That’s the core message personal brand strategist Darren Mass drives home in this high-impact episode. We explore how your digital footprint shapes perception long before discovery calls, and why personal brand is the invisible hand that accelerates (or derails) sales.

If you’ve ever hesitated to post or wondered if your brand voice really matters—this is your episode. Darren and I dive into:

• Why “building in public” accelerates trust and shortens the sales cycle
• The four content pillars every founder should define—and how to find yours
• What most people get wrong about visibility and timing
• The mindset shift required to write like you speak (and why that matters)
• A real-world example of a founder who pivoted after a branding gut-check

Darren shares battle-tested insights from two decades in entrepreneurship and exits, plus practical tools you can start using today. You’ll walk away seeing content not as a chore—but as a conversation starter with your next best client.

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

Review  your own digital presence.

Google yourself. Look at your LinkedIn profile and read your last three posts. Ask yourself:

• Does this sound like me?
• Is my point of view clear?
• Would I want to take a meeting with me?

If the answer isn’t a strong yes, pick one small action:
 ✅ Update your headline
 ✅ Share one POV post
 ✅ Clean up your profile summary

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Brand Built.
• Connect with Darren on LinkedIn.
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Simply sales with the VIP Power Hour - download the FREE guide. 
• Grab your 5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away.

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

Welcome back to Sales as Service—and happy new year. To kick off Season 2, I’m sharing a special episode: my guest appearance on Melissa Snow’s Powerful Women Rising podcast.

In this conversation, we unpack the relationship between marketing and sales—why they’re not the same thing, why marketing alone can leave you waiting, and what it looks like to create opportunity proactively without falling into pushy, transactional tactics.

If you’ve been showing up consistently but still wondering why it’s not translating into revenue, this episode offers a grounded path forward.

In this episode, we cover:

• Marketing vs. sales: “building the room” vs. “starting the conversation”
• Why referrals are great—but not predictable or scalable
• The mindset shift that makes sales feel human (not “salesy”)
• The difference between building awareness and actually inviting people to work with you
• The 90-day rule for sales results (and why you’re probably giving up too soon)

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

The 3–2–2 Method (30-Day Outreach Practice)

For the next 30 days, build proactive outreach into your day using this simple rhythm:

• 3 thoughtful comments on posts from people you genuinely want to build a relationship with (Not “Great post!”—add something real.)
• 2 outbound messages to new connections
   (No pitch. Lead with a real reason you’re reaching out.)
• 2 touch points to your existing network
   (Past clients, collaborators, referral partners—stay visible and supportive.)
• Track it. Don’t overthink it. Watch what happens. 

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Powerful Women Rising 
• Listen to the Powerful Women Rising Podcast
• Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn, Facebook and Instagram
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Simply sales with the VIP Power Hour - download the FREE guide
• Book your free strategy call and learn how to consistently book 3–5 sales-qualified meetings each week

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

We’re closing out Season 1 with a minisode that’s part reflection, part field notes. When I launched this show, I didn’t realize how much it would shape my own consistency and confidence—especially after seeing how hard sales gets when you don’t have an online footprint you can lean on.

For this wrap-up, I pulled one question I asked every guest: “What’s the best advice you’ve ever received about sales and business development?” Their answers were surprisingly aligned—six themes came up again and again, no matter their niche or business model.

If you’re heading into a new year thinking you need a brand-new strategy, start here instead.

Links & Resources:

• Apply to join Jamie Cox inside the Brand Clarity Lab
• Holiday special offers for SAS Listeners
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Check out the LinkedIn Lead Generator to learn how to turn simple daily actions into real conversations with potential clients. 
• Grab your  5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away. 

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

So many business owners chase the perfect pitch or sales strategy—while quietly avoiding the deeper question:

Why don’t I feel ready to be seen?

In this episode, I’m joined by Tricia Lanette, founder of Electric Paradise Creative and the “Fairy Godmother of Personal Branding.” But this conversation goes beyond visuals. We explore how confidence, clarity, and mindset impact your visibility, your sales, and your ability to truly take up space in your business.

Because when your brand doesn’t feel aligned, you hesitate. You overthink. You hold back.

But when it does? You lead with clarity. You move with ease. You sell from a place of self-trust.

We cover:

• The hidden mindset blocks that often look like “sales problems”
• Why branding isn’t about looking polished—it’s about feeling like yourself
• How confidence and clarity shift your presence in every client interaction
• A simple way to get unstuck if your brand no longer reflects who you are
• The real reason you might be avoiding visibility (and what to do about it)

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

Pick one client-facing touchpoint—your LinkedIn bio, website homepage, or email signature—and give it a gut check.

Ask yourself:
Does this still reflect who I am and how I want to show up?

If the answer is no—or even a hesitant “kind of”—choose one small update to bring it into better alignment. No full rebrand required. Just one small move that feels more like you.

If that stirs up resistance or perfectionism? That’s part of the work. Start anyway.

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Electric Paradise Creative
• Connect with Tricia on LinkedIn and Instagram
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Check out the LinkedIn Lead Generator to learn how to turn simple daily actions into real conversations with potential clients. 
• Grab your  5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away. 

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

If you’ve been curious about AI but hesitant to dive in, this conversation is designed for you. In this episode of Sales as Service, I sit down with AI strategist and GenX advocate Ed Weeks Jr. to strip away the hype and focus on what actually matters—practical, real-world applications that help agencies and service pros work smarter and sell more effectively.

Ed shares how he rebuilt his business after a major setback by embracing simple AI tools that made his sales, operations, and content workflows faster and easier. We explore the fear many founders feel when they hear the word “AI,” why that hesitation makes sense, and how to start experimenting in ways that feel supportive—not overwhelming.

In this grounded, tactical conversation, you’ll hear how AI can become a thought partner, a time-saver, and a powerful ally for small teams who need efficiency without losing the human touch.

Inside the episode, we get into:

• How founders can use AI without feeling behind or “not technical enough”
• The easiest AI entry points for sales, marketing, and operations
• How to use transcripts, voice notes, and summaries to upgrade your prep and follow-up
• The three tools Ed uses daily—and why they matter
• Why experimenting beats overthinking when it comes to AI

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

Before your next sales conversation, open the voice memo app on your phone. Record a 60–90 second debrief immediately after the call and answer:

• What went well?
• What didn’t land?
• What questions or objections came up?
• What’s the next step?

Upload that transcript into your AI tool of choice and ask:
“Act as my sales coach. What did I miss, and what could I improve next time?”

One small reflection—amplified by AI—can meaningfully improve the way you sell.

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Ed 
• Connect with Ed on LinkedIn
• Apply to join Jamie Cox inside the Brand Clarity Lab
• Holiday special offers for SAS Listeners
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Check out the LinkedIn Lead Generator to learn how to turn simple daily actions into real conversations with potential clients. 
• Grab your 5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away. 

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

As the year winds down, it’s easy to hit pause on your business development efforts. But what you do now will shape your Q1. This episode is your invitation to take inventory, revisit how you're showing up, and bring more intention into the way you lead and sell.

Ryan O’Keeffe is a founder, father, and people promoter. He leads Jago, the first and only BCorp-certified personal brand consultancy helping purpose-led leaders gain clarity on who they are and the value they bring to the world—so they can lead with more presence and impact.

We explore how emotional intelligence shows up in the sales process, and why soft skills are your most underrated business advantage.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why your personal brand is already speaking for you—intentionally or not
• How emotional triggers show up in sales (and what to do with them)
• Why EQ matters more than polish when building trust
• What most founders get wrong about visibility
• How to assess your brand with one simple (free) tool

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!

This week’s challenge is simple but powerful:

Take 10 minutes to complete Jago’s free Personal Brand Health Check.

Whether you’re running solo or leading a full team, your personal brand shapes how people connect with you, refer you, and remember you. This tool helps you reflect on where you're aligned—and where your visibility might need a reset.

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Jago
• Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn
• Holiday special offers for SAS Listeners
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Check out the LinkedIn Lead Generator to learn how to turn simple daily actions into real conversations with potential clients. 
• Grab your  5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away. 

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

If your services feel hard to explain—or even harder to sell—this episode is for you.

Tam Smith is joined by Rhiannon Franz, Founder and CEO of RhiVive Marketing, to unpack what really changes when you stop customizing everything and start productizing your expertise. Rhiannon helps ex-corporate pros simplify their messaging, position their value clearly, and create offers people actually understand and want to buy.

Whether you're stuck in the custom-to-order cycle or unsure how to turn your process into a sellable package, this episode offers the mindset shifts and practical steps you need to create offers that spark demand and make selling feel easier.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why unclear offers are costing you clients (and what to do instead)
• What it really means to “productize” your services—and why it matters
• How to structure an offer that scales (even if you're just starting)
• The difference between marketing copy and messaging that sells
• What to include in your first offer audit

Sales as Service Challenge — Start Now!
Block 30 minutes this week to audit your current offer.
Ask yourself:

• Is it clear who it’s for and what problem it solves?
• Is there a defined outcome or transformation?
• Would someone seeing it for the first time instantly understand what they’re buying?

If not, pick one service to start simplifying and packaging. Give it a name. Define the scope. Put it in writing.
Clarity sells—and productizing your service is the first step to making it easier to buy, refer, and deliver.

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about RhiVive Marketing
• Connect with Rhiannon on LinkedIn and Instagram
• Get Rhiannon’s Cash-Out Blueprint
• Built to Sell: Creating a Business that Can Thrive Without You
• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Check out the LinkedIn Lead Generator to learn how to turn simple daily actions into real conversations with potential clients. 
• Grab your 5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away. 

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.

Tired of cold pitches that miss the mark? In this Sales as Service mini episode, Tam breaks down what makes a “pitch slap,” how to fix it, and how to turn cold outreach into real conversations. Learn a four-step framework for writing messages that build trust, create dialogue, and convert with integrity.

Help turn bad outreach into better sales - Submit a Pitch Slap

Links & Resources:

• Join us for the next SAS LIVE Office Hours Event!
• Check out the LinkedIn Lead Generator to learn how to turn simple daily actions into real conversations with potential clients. 
• Grab your  5-Minute Sales Audit for a quick scan to show what’s working, what’s not—and one thing you can improve right away.

Have an episode idea? DM me on LinkedIn and let me know!

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Nothing happens in business — or life — until someone says hi. That's the philosophy behind Tam Smith's work as founder of Studio Three 49.

As a Sales Growth Strategist, she helps service founders build relationship-first sales systems through focused 1–3 day intensives — so they can stop relying solely on referrals, no cold pitching required. With 15+ years in sales leadership, Tam believes sales is an act of service. It's about what you give, not what you get. And when you serve well, the results always follow.

When she's not working with clients, you'll likely find her rock climbing or mapping out her next adventure with her Supermutt, Ila, in Durham, NC.