Talent acquisition is undergoing unprecedented disruption as AI, economic uncertainty, and the ever-shortening lifespan of skills radically reshape recruiting. On Recruiting Future, Matt Alder explores this evolving landscape, using insightful interviews with transformational TA practitioners and forward-thinking experts to spark your imagination and provide the insights you need to shape the future of talent acquisition in your organization.
Each episode explores topics such as AI, recruiting automation, recruitment marketing, employer branding, skills-based hiring, assessment, candidate experience, DEI, internal mobility, and the transformation of TA teams. Recruiting Future is an essential resource for everyone involved in hiring.
Matt Alder is a globally respected talent acquisition futurist, author, and speaker with over 25 years of experience exploring what’s next in recruiting. Renowned for his expertise in strategic foresight and technology trends, Matt provides a unique perspective that empowers leaders to navigate disruption. His deep industry knowledge and ability to spark meaningful conversations make Recruiting Future a must-listen for talent acquisition and HR professionals everywhere.
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Round Up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.
Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:
Ep 631: Science, AI & Assessment
Ep 632: Attracting, Retaining, and Empowering Gen Z Talent
Ep 633: The Strategic Importance Of Wellbeing
Ep 634: Work Before Talent
Ep 635: Transform Talent Acquisition
Ep 636: Hiring & Retaining Innovators
Ep 637: Reinventing The ATS For A New Era
Ep 638: Reskilling For AI
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Ep 638: Reskilling For AI
Episode 638
Friday, August 30, 2024 • Duration 29:53
It’s been a tough couple of years for Talent Acquisition. There was a time during the post-pandemic hiring wave when companies were struggling to recruit enough recruiters. Now, the situation is the polar opposite, with TA teams shrinking and many recruiters being laid off. In such economically uncertain times, it’s difficult to determine whether AI is starting to be a factor that impacts jobs in TA. However, based on current adoption rates, it’s probably fair to say that AI is still only a minor contributor to the overall situation.
But this is quickly going to change. As employers start to look at transforming TA over the longer term, AI and automation will inevitably play a significant role in shaping the TA teams of the future.
This raises important questions about job displacement and reskilling. These are not just questions that AI raises for TA; they are questions that span the entire organization, with a strong likelihood that all jobs will be impacted in some way.
So, how can employers prepare their workforce for these impending changes, and what is the likely split between job replacement, job enhancement, and job creation?
My guest this week is Kamal Ahluwalia, President of Ikigai Labs and former President of Eightfold AI. Kamal has extremely well-informed insights on AI’s impact on jobs and skills and valuable advice for employers and employees.
In the interview, we discuss:
The impact of AI on work and jobs
Jobs eliminated, jobs changed, jobs created
Building scenarios for the future
The critical importance of data
How should employers be responding
What is the role of HR and TA?
Evolving processes to meet new objectives
Reskilling and upskilling
How do employers encourage people to learn new skills?
What will work be like in five years?
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Ep 630: Assessment in Skills-Based Organizations
Episode 630
Wednesday, July 24, 2024 • Duration 23:11
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One key aspect of any journey to becoming a skills-based organization is having effective skills assessment strategies in place. This doesn't just apply to hiring and leadership development. Some of the most cutting-edge organizations are using assessment as part of the onboarding process to help understand the development needs of new employees.
My guest this week is Simone Jacobi, Global Director of Talent Assessment at McKinsey. In our conversation, Simone talks about how McKinsey is gratifying assessments in its journey toward becoming a skills-based organization.
In the interview, we discuss:
What do skills mean at McKinsey?
How McKinsey's talent acquisition process is evolving
Broadening talent sources
The advantages of gamifying assessment
Onboarding and "Day One Readiness" assessments to help people become productive as quickly as possible
Using Gen AI to Personalize Assessments
Building individual skills profiles and mapping up skills development
Reducing bias and using "Fairness Observers" when making people decisions
What are the most essential skills for the future?
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Ep 552: Hiring Innovation in LATAM and Asia
Episode 552
Monday, September 18, 2023 • Duration 25:46
If you have been listening to the recent episodes of the show, you'll have noticed the considerable amount of innovation currently happening in high-volume hiring. Driven by skill shortages and automation technology, high volume is the area that has given us an insight into what the future might be like for talent acquisition.
In episodes 551 and 552, I'm diving deeper into automation and AI in high-volume hiring by speaking to technology CEOs with products that are helping to shape the future.
My second guest in this mini-series is Max Armbruster, CEO at Talkpush. Max does extensive work around high-volume hiring in Latin America and Asia. Technology is driving innovation for different reasons in these markets than in the US and Europe, and Max has some deep insights into how hiring is developing and where things are heading.
In the interview, we discuss:
The hiring market beyond the US and Europe
Automation to reduce recruiter numbers and broaden talent pools
Emerging markets and future economic powerhouses
Cost per hire
How AI improves the quality of hire
The impact of the accessibility and affordability of AI
Communication channels and candidate experience
Developing local toolkits
Advice to employers hiring remotely in these markets
What's the future for recruiters?
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Ep 551: Interviewerless Interviewing
Episode 551
Sunday, September 17, 2023 • Duration 25:06
If you have been listening to the recent episodes of the show, you'll have noticed the considerable amount of innovation currently happening in high-volume hiring. Driven by skill shortages and automation technology, high volume is the area that has given us an insight into what the future might be like for talent acquisition.
Over the next two episodes, I will dive deeper into automation and AI in high-volume hiring by speaking to technology CEOs with products that are helping to shape the future.
My first guest is Stephane Rivard, CEO and Co-Founder of Hiring Branch. Several Hiring Branch's customers have used technology to move away from human interviews completely. Stephane talks us through the results they are getting and the implications for the future of talent acquisition.
In the interview, we discuss:
Is recruiting automation gaining traction?
Predicting job performance via scenario-driven assessment
Previewing the work and showcasing skills
Removing bias
Will this approach spread beyond high volume?
Hiring within 24 hours
Selling the role and organization
Improving the quality of hire
Resources, efficiencies, budgets, legislation and regulation
Recruiter career prospects and advice to TA leaders
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Ep 550: Promotion, Motivation, Commitment and Retention
Episode 550
Friday, September 15, 2023 • Duration 21:46
Attitudes to work are more complex and varied than ever, making identifying trends and patterns harder. There are currently critical questions around retention and productivity that employers need to understand. So, how can we make sense of our ever more complex motivational drivers and attitudes to work?
ADP have access to massive human capital management datasets, and by combining this data with qualitative research, the ADP Research Institute is helping to shine a light on complex questions about work.
ADP Research Institute has recently launched a new quarterly workforce report called Today At Work, and my guest this week is Ben Hanowell, their Director of People Analytics Research. As well as looking at patterns in worker sentiment, the report has revealed a surprising inverse relationship between promotion and retention.
In the interview, we discuss:
Using data to make sense of the labor market
The vital importance of retention
The Employee Motivation and Commitment Index
The impact of promotion on retention
Implications for talent acquisition
Why having a good bench is important
Individual contributors vs. manager
Why career development doesn't end with promotion
Motivation and commitment are a state, not a trait.
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Ep 549: Rethinking Work, Jobs and Recruiting
Episode 549
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 • Duration 39:22
The way we describe work and jobs is mostly by long-standing assumptions that have been in place since the Industrial Revolution. The world is now a very different place, and the employers breaking free of our ingrained mindsets around jobs and recruiting are giving themselves considerable talent market advantage.
My guest this week is one of my favourite thinkers around the reinvention of work. Dart Lindsley is Strategic Advisor for People Experience at Google. Dart believes that rather than being seen as resources or units of production, employees are actually customers of a product we call work. There are some vast implications for talent acquisition here, and this is a must-listen for anyone developing a strategic plan for the future.
In the interview, we discuss:
How we should be looking at work
The legacies of the industrial age
A multi-sided business
Business architecture
Employees as customers, not as units of production
The implications for HR
Bringing marketing thinking to HR
Market research, product market fit and route to market
Work as a subscription model
A land and expand sales motion
Job to be done theory
How do recruitment marketing and employer branding need to evolve
A different data model for describing work
The implications of AI
What does the future look like?
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Ep 548: Rethinking Background Checks
Episode 548
Friday, September 8, 2023 • Duration 27:26
We've featured several employers on the show with recruiting strategies focusing on hiring people with criminal histories. All of these employers have spoken about the benefits for the people they hire, the benefits they get from reaching new talent pools, and the benefits for society as a whole.
Despite this growing list of case studies, several misconceptions about hiring people who have been involved with the criminal justice system are holding many employers back.
My guest this week is Shawn Bushway, a professor at the University at Albany and a researcher at RAND Corporation. Shawn has built a body of research on the impact of criminal background checks on employment, and his work informed the current standards of the EEOC. He now helps employers revise their background check policies to better reflect the science about re-offending and become compliant with EEOC guidance.
In the interview, we discuss:
How background checks have evolved
Ban the box
How the tightness of the labor market dictates employers' attitudes
Common misconceptions
The myth around recidivism
Overestimating the level of risk
Why crime type is irrelevant
Making factually informed decisions
Avoiding false positives
Age, time, and number
The role of government in creating practical, useable incentives to hire people with criminal histories
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Ep 547: Generative AI - A Deep Dive
Episode 547
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 • Duration 44:09
It has been an extraordinary year for technology. We can all broadly agree that the effect of generative AI will be transformational for talent acquisition, but how can we separate the hype from the reality to know where to focus in the short term and how to plan for a much-changed future?
With so much noise and minimal signal in the discussion about AI, I thought the best way to get a grip on everything was to talk to a genuine AI thought leader.
My guest this week is Jon Krohn, host of the SuperDataScience Podcast, Best Selling Author, and Chief Data Scientist at TA start-up Nebula. Jon was on the show back in 2019 and gave us a primer on AI that was so good people are still listening to now. This time, he is doing a deep dive into generative AI, giving us some history, explaining the current reality, and outlining the radical potential for the future.
This conversation was eye-opening for me, and it is a compulsory listen for everyone working in Talent Acquisition.
In the interview, we discuss:
Developments in AI over the last three years
Hype v Impact
The development of the transformer architecture that facilitates ChatGPT
Why the jump from ChatGPT 3.5 to ChatGPT 4 was incredibly significant
Is artificial general intelligence possible in our lifetimes?
Other notable examples of Large Language Models
The immediate implications for Talent Acquisition
How LLMs will supercharge vendor innovation
The importance of TA Leaders embracing AI
Are we heading towards a utopia or a dystopia?
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Round Up August 2023
Sunday, September 3, 2023 • Duration 26:09
Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.
This Round Up episode also features a short interview with Clive Meyers, Director of Public Sector Strategy at Indeed, talking about some up coming events to support refugees across Europe
Episode mentioned in this Round Up:
Ep 537: Strategic Workforce Planning
Ep 538: The Rise Of Short-Form Video
Ep 539: Building TA Technology Strategies
Ep 540: AI & Recruitment Marketing
Ep 541: The Skills-Based Revolution
Ep 542: Building A Global TA Strategy
Ep 543: Hiring At Speed And Scale
Ep 544: Transforming TA Teams
Ep 545: Using AI Strategically
Ep 546: Transforming Frontline Hiring
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